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Benglada
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.27 05:03:00 -
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more sharks then dolphins nowadays.
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 Originally by: Arkanor
0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
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Talpa Iute
Murder-Death-Kill
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 07:03:00 -
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Well I can tell you that belt piracy in 0.0 is not that.. not at all 
*provided you can catch them 
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Drezzster
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Posted - 2007.04.27 07:27:00 -
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hmm... well in my first night of "official piracy" I found 3 punishers and a stabber...
Maybe I am just in a popular area...
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Grunanca
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Posted - 2007.04.27 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Don Carn'age
Edited by: Don Carn''age on 26/04/2007 15:11:55
Heres a question ive wanted to ask for a long while; Is belt piracy dead
Or are the minmatar regions just dead or WHAT? Someone tell me if your still finding dirty miner's in lowsec... or kids with battleships somewhere in EVE :)
I miss little gang's of AF's pumping charges into a raven tbh : )
With my corpmates forever finding ships immediately warping to POS's/stations/gates, bieng in large gangs or just bieng over cautious and especially with the expansion of lowsec missions, im finding more and more targets are actually in the 'harder to probe' deadspace zones; i personally havent had a belt kill for quite a while and thus have no use for my fun hunting HAC's and faction cruisers possibly even AF's; i have to go about in my command ships, mega pulsey t2 jobby's or big e-peen BS such as my mach or (old, cheers AOS Brendan!) Navy Mega. Gatecamping (although horribly painful in minmatar regions) is becoming the norm, its okay but rather boring and doesnt have me as quick on the scanner as i used to be, repetetive too i suppose.
Sure there are the odd drakes and smaller ships - aswell as odd kills to be had, but surely not as big as it was say, a year and half ago maybe sooner? I personally and from what others have said, have been noticing a decline in belt piracy itself.
Hand me your feedback on this one guys : )
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.04.27 09:06:00 -
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I used to pirate in lowsec. Essentially what it lead to was hours of warping around, and maybe netting one or two kills thanks to an inattentive ratter. Soon after deciding that was dead, I took to hunting the other pirates looking for kills. Not only were there something like five times as many, their Thorax was far less likely to be packed with the T1 mods that my normal prey had a tendency to leave. From there I went to gate-camping, and essentially even solo sitting in a BS on a gate I got more kills in an hour than I usually did in a day, and I wasn't able to catch half the ships that came my way. Now I've moved to 0.0, where you can spend the day hoping between gates in a gang and actually make a decent number of kills before you die to a bigger gang.
I've met a number of people who respond to my concerns with simple statements assuring me that I am an incompetent fool, and belts are packing to brim with T2 fitted battleships bunched up like sardines, merely waiting for a pirate with a decent level of skill to find them. Invariably, you notice that they never seem to elaborate on this, and rarely is the person speaking thusly a pirate at all.
Lowsec is empty because it's simply ridiculous to go there when 0.0 offers so much greater rewards at even less risk in my experience (assuming you take simple precautions). Anyone willing to leave highsec and take a risk isn't going to be in lowsec, there's simply no benefit to being in it. 0.0 ratters in the first place log out almost immediately, align to warp to a station, warp to a station, or pull the old safe-spot and cloak. The only areas of space with enough traffic to be worth the hassle are gates.
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Linda Mallow
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Posted - 2007.04.27 11:39:00 -
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Often brought up, and allready true..
Low sec is just useless..
For a 20%..30% Cut on isk/hour (compared to High Sec), no one will risk his stuff down there.
Carebears can calclulate, ya know ;)
Bring better and unique rewards in low sec and you'll get more targets (Exploration was a step into the right direction)..
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Ryan Darkwolf
Amarr
13th Mordu's Legionary
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Posted - 2007.04.27 13:09:00 -
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I've never actually pirated before..but I did use to go to low-sec to get my standings back up after some...um...nondisclosure fun. That was back when going to a belt ment that sooner or later someone else was coming...and that soon after that 3-4 other ppl were coming. Remembering my Ashimu take on that Mega was a thrill...having the Maelstorm kill me and the Mega..sad but awsome all the same... I wish I could go back to low sec without wondering if there is a 30-40 man team on the other side (it has happend) I personally dont like alts...I think that paying for another account (well this is ok..you are paying for it)..but using the 14day trial thing is messed up and should be concidered an exploit, because it messes with the dynamics of the game.
Yes local chat does show who is coming...but it doesnt tell you if he/she is at a safe spot, in a station or what gate he/she is going too. You need to use the scanner to find the ship...and if (some people are stupid) they rename the ship or you dont know what they are in (like i said some ppl are stupid so the ships name has THEIR name in it) you wont be able to find them until is too late. Ive had multiple targets get away this way....also had one that was warping right next to me and all I could do was sit there watching its little red star blink at me while we warped to the same gate.
Anyways...Half my post is irrelevant or not coherent cause I'm trying to do three things at the same time..so if anyone can make sence of what I wrote please elaborate or add to it.
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Ja'kar
Templar Securities and Holdings
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Posted - 2007.04.27 13:33:00 -
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Warp 0 hurts belt hunting as well
only pirates that like warp 0 are carebear pirates or those that missed the point of eve (then again I might have mised the point thinkig it was 'hardcore game')!
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.27 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ja'kar
Warp 0 hurts belt hunting as well
only pirates that like warp 0 are carebear pirates or those that missed the point of eve (then again I might have mised the point thinkig it was 'hardcore game')!
If anything warp to zero helped belt hunting. All the carebears already had instadocks anyway. Now at least you know you will come out on top of dumb ratters from any direction.
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Ja'kar
Templar Securities and Holdings
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Posted - 2007.04.27 13:40:00 -
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If anything warp to zero helped belt hunting. All the carebears already had instadocks anyway. Now at least you know you will come out on top of dumb ratters from any direction.
yah, ok
but rather i was thinking all insta's should have been removed a long time ago - buts that another thread
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jimmyjam
Gallente
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.04.27 16:58:00 -
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All you have to do to find people in belts is to go to the right places.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.27 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Ja'kar
Warp 0 hurts belt hunting as well
only pirates that like warp 0 are carebear pirates or those that missed the point of eve (then again I might have mised the point thinkig it was 'hardcore game')!
If anything warp to zero helped belt hunting. All the carebears already had instadocks anyway. Now at least you know you will come out on top of dumb ratters from any direction.
quite agree. i don't see that wtz has any affect belt piracy in the slightest. the second a target leaves the belt it is no longer belt piracy anyway.
DE
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Agent Li
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Posted - 2007.04.27 17:34:00 -
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Something I wish for:
I'm in a low sec system mining away in my <fill in name of your favorite mining ship here> and my friends are hanging out at a safe spot out of sight.
Some pirates warp in on me, and bump me, and proceed to thrash me, when all of a sudden, my friends warp in on them...
Mayhem and FUN begins!
What ever happened to the FUN?
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Dalanoria
Team Americas
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.27 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Dalanoria on 27/04/2007 17:41:07
This is why they need to remove pilots from mandatory loading into local chat...
EVERYONE in the system uses this as the free system scanner.Its not fair to pirates or carebears..
A pirate should not be able to load into a system and immediatly know its empty, nor should a miner have such a advanced warning system for potential pirates. We have scanners that scan out 14 au, thats plenty of warning to align and warp out...
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TheEndofTheWorld
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria
Edited by: Dalanoria on 27/04/2007 17:41:07
This is why they need to remove pilots from mandatory loading into local chat...
EVERYONE in the system uses this as the free system scanner.Its not fair to pirates or carebears..
A pirate should not be able to load into a system and immediatly know its empty, nor should a miner have such a advanced warning system for potential pirates. We have scanners that scan out 14 au, thats plenty of warning to align and warp out...
In it's current for, completly removing local would kill EVE tbh.
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Drosssk
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: TheEndofTheWorld
Originally by: Dalanoria
Edited by: Dalanoria on 27/04/2007 17:41:07
This is why they need to remove pilots from mandatory loading into local chat...
EVERYONE in the system uses this as the free system scanner.Its not fair to pirates or carebears..
A pirate should not be able to load into a system and immediatly know its empty, nor should a miner have such a advanced warning system for potential pirates. We have scanners that scan out 14 au, thats plenty of warning to align and warp out...
In it's current for, completly removing local would kill EVE tbh.
Bull.
If you remove local and have just a local counter (like trade channels)-> local just cant be used as system scanner for friendlies/non-friendlies.
If you completely remove it -> scouting becomes a new needed profession. Sounds like a ****load of fun to me.
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Destr0math
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Drosssk
Originally by: TheEndofTheWorld
Originally by: Dalanoria
Edited by: Dalanoria on 27/04/2007 17:41:07
This is why they need to remove pilots from mandatory loading into local chat...
EVERYONE in the system uses this as the free system scanner.Its not fair to pirates or carebears..
A pirate should not be able to load into a system and immediatly know its empty, nor should a miner have such a advanced warning system for potential pirates. We have scanners that scan out 14 au, thats plenty of warning to align and warp out...
In it's current for, completly removing local would kill EVE tbh.
Bull.
If you remove local and have just a local counter (like trade channels)-> local just cant be used as system scanner for friendlies/non-friendlies.
If you completely remove it -> scouting becomes a new needed profession. Sounds like a ****load of fun to me.
for the 30-odd minutes that it was gone after the most recent large revelations patch, when there were NO chat channels, i have to say, that sucked a**. You have to scout every belt in a system, and that takes forEVER in a 100+ AU system with spread-out belts. Yes, it would be nice, but think of all those systems where no one is. Either you would have to scout every belt there, or you would just have to make guesses, and not be thorough, and not know when there was another large gang in local.
no thx.
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Aslann
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: jimmyjam
All you have to do to find people in belts is to go to the right places.
Yea all you have to do to win the lotery is buy the right ticket.
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Destr0math
for the 30-odd minutes that it was gone after the most recent large revelations patch, when there were NO chat channels, i have to say, that sucked a**. You have to scout every belt in a system, and that takes forEVER in a 100+ AU system with spread-out belts. Yes, it would be nice, but think of all those systems where no one is. Either you would have to scout every belt there, or you would just have to make guesses, and not be thorough, and not know when there was another large gang in local.
no thx.
Agreed, I could not play EVE if that happened, it would make it mind numbingly boring searching for targets, even more so than it can be sometimes already.
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Ja'kar
Templar Securities and Holdings
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:38:00 -
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Bit short sighted that DE û I mean with wt0 and insta-BM the target would have some chance of dieing û hence the æhardcoreÆ element I like so much û so wt0 û without instaÆs would have made a difference.
But like I said different thread and wt0 is old news now
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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:49:00 -
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since im only a 6 month eve player, i at times grow weary of all the "it used to be better" stuff from my older pirate mates.
that being said, the belts in low sec offer no significant reward vs highly significant risk. the only people who rat in low sec either haven't figured out that missions are safer and offer better rewards or are too lazy to get a mission and just want to do a bit of quick ratting. being a pro low sec ratter is not a great career move. i cant really speak about miners since i only rarely see them, but it seems low sec mining could be profitable, it's just that most miners are too lazy. mining is inherently brain numbing, and if you dont keep yourself otherwise entertained you will go postal. does nervously checking the scanner while your hold slowly fills up with ore sound fun? they like to go semi-afk and surf the internet or chat it up with their mates, all of which will get you killed if you do it in low sec.
which brings me to my point: missions. a mission runner is a pirate's new best friend. busting missions is fun, profitable, and relatively risk free. generally they aren't expecting to get jumped, their overview is clogged with npc's and wrecks, they often have very nice loot and implants, and the risk of a 3rd party interrupting your transaction is minimal. cant get any hits with your scan probes you say? are you scanning for drones? are you as close to the mission as you can get? have you tried EXPLORING options with other probes?
just my thoughts (BOOST LOW SEC BELTS)
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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Neal Cassady on 27/04/2007 22:50:58
Edited by: Neal Cassady on 27/04/2007 22:50:40
Originally by: Lucifer Fellblade
Originally by: Destr0math
for the 30-odd minutes that it was gone after the most recent large revelations patch, when there were NO chat channels, i have to say, that sucked a**. You have to scout every belt in a system, and that takes forEVER in a 100+ AU system with spread-out belts. Yes, it would be nice, but think of all those systems where no one is. Either you would have to scout every belt there, or you would just have to make guesses, and not be thorough, and not know when there was another large gang in local.
no thx.
Agreed, I could not play EVE if that happened, it would make it mind numbingly boring searching for targets, even more so than it can be sometimes already.
how about if you just received the number of people in local? that would solve that problem.
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