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Korad Konstentyn
The Genyosha Society
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Posted - 2007.04.27 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jimer Lins I sometimes think "Amarr" is a dig on "Americans" with the description of "True Amarrians" and so forth. ;)
DING! give this man a cookie.
Yep, there's backstory specifically stating that the Amarricans are descended from an ultra-conservative catholic splinter group, the Conformists.
The American aspect is more subtle (barring the name), but the image of a nation built on slavery is hard to miss.
Although the Gallente are specifically id'ed as French, I think there's definately more of a reference to Brussels (home of the EU) and more of the northern European countries with those guys.
Which is amusing, because the Minmatar are...Black Vikings?
And yes, the Caldari are filthy goose-stepping National Socialist fascists. Sorry all you caldari folks, but at the next FanFest, you might want to ask the devs where they got the name 'Torrinos' (Rex) from.
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Karash Amerius
Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 20:27:00 -
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Guys get it right...
Amarr are a cross between Persians and the Orthodox Empire. Think Turkey to the borders of India, and Sub-Sahara Africa.
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Trem Sinval
Sinval Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:47:00 -
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Everyone in EVE is clearly descended from Icelanders. Why else would EVERYONE be pale, sickly, and bony?
Heck, even the Brutor can only manage a light tinge at best. It's a sure sign that someone's spent too much time around their fellow country-men. We're not all proto-Germanics!
For instance, where are the hot Latin chicks? How about a nice Mongolian? South China Sea? Saharan Africa? Eskimo? A real Chinese line, with that lovely ivory skin, or some real Slavics?
Everyone on Earth comes in nice shades of brown, so why are the only choices white, whiter, and "what is this thing you call the 'Sun'"?
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Haakon Jarl
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Haakon Jarl on 27/04/2007 21:52:32
Originally by: Ma'Kur Pridar
Amarr - Western society, your US, GB etc. God fearing nations.
Besides the US western nations is anything but god fearing. In fact the west is the ost secular society on the planet. And rightly so.
Anyhow I see Caldari as a mix between Germany and the US.
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William Hamilton
Caldari THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:00:00 -
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It's not who the 4 races descended from, you need to go by bloodlines
Deteis = Civere = Britan Achura =
Jin Mei = Japan? Gallante = France Intaki = Hippies?
Amaar = Khanid = China? ??? = ???
Brutor = African Sebestior = ??? Vehikolor = Korea?
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Karash Amerius Guys get it right...
Amarr are a cross between Persians and the Orthodox Empire. Think Turkey to the borders of India, and Sub-Sahara Africa.
wow thats exactly what i thought did you read this somewhere acuse i just figured it out 
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: William Hamilton It's not who the 4 races descended from, you need to go by bloodlines
Deteis = Civere = Britan Achura =
Jin Mei = Japan? Gallante = France Intaki = Hippies?
Amaar = Khanid = China? ??? = ???
Brutor = African Sebestior = ??? Vehikolor = Korea?
yea but all the factions have a main bloodline
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Wild Rho
Amarr GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:09:00 -
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Caldari are from Asian decent, trying to remember where I read it but you can see it in their corp names.
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Abye
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:28:00 -
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Caldari are clearly inspired by the boomeras japanese societies where the big corporations have more power than the goverment. Their names sound like a blend of finnish and japanese. ___
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Pooka
Caldari United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Pooka on 27/04/2007 23:48:07
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/04/2007 18:06:34 Amarr=Great Britain. Church high involvement, Very much "upper class". Caldari= Industrial, warfare, make cash...USA. Gallente= French, really is in the storyline i believe. Minmatar=..err...terrorists? Seriously though, scandic nation could fit the description.
The closes I have seen in the whole 2 pages. But the Minmatar are Nordic / Scandic like the Icelanders for sure.
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Jaedar Metron
Artificial Horizons YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jaedar Metron on 28/04/2007 00:04:17 Edited by: Jaedar Metron on 28/04/2007 00:02:38
Originally by: Pooka Edited by: Pooka on 27/04/2007 23:48:07
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/04/2007 18:06:34 Amarr=Great Britain. Church high involvement, Very much "upper class". Caldari= Industrial, warfare, make cash...USA. Gallente= French, really is in the storyline i believe. Minmatar=..err...terrorists? Seriously though, scandic nation could fit the description.
The closes I have seen in the whole 2 pages. But the Minmatar are Nordic / Scandic like the Icelanders for sure.
I thought most minmatars had brown eyes? If so they are clearly NOT scandinavian. Besides, Norway is actually a quite advanced country, and our style of life fits the Caldari State alot more than the tribal society. Period.
Minmatar with their tribal society probably hails from the middle east.
Caldari is a mix between Japan, Scandinavia and possibly Russia.
Amarr probably hails from southern europe, Italy, Spain etc.
Gallente are the central europeans, mostly french.
Jove are probably those damned crazy americans 
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VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:08:00 -
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Amarr = Definitely American!
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Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:21:00 -
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Amarr = muslim
Dogmatic, rigid, religious society. Slavery (which is condoned in the Qur'an and was common in the islamic world from the very beginning 'til the Brittish made them stop in the 1800s). Superiority complex crushed by defeat. Chauvinism...
Defitinitely Islamic.
Caldari system names remind me of both Finnish and Japanese.
Gallente have French sounding names on their systems... But capitalistic, meddling, individualistic? Definitely American.
Minmatar are hard to place, but Native Americans perhaps.
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:34:00 -
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According to the game lore :
Caldari = Descendants of a huge corporation (think UAC from Doom 3)
Amarr = Unified Catholic Church
Gallente = French Space Colonists
Minmatar = The lore doesn't say much, just says they settled on Pator after the Eve gate closed.
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Del Narveux
Obsidian Angels Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:43:00 -
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Amarr = Europe/Middle East. Fundamentalism meets absolute monarchy.
Caldari = Japan/America. Theyve got the whole hard-working road to success thing, but also the very Japanese duty to the state and all that. Also a number of Caldari system/NPC names seem to have a bit of an Eastern flair.
Gallente = France. Because the game says so, ps GG CCP for making everyone automatically dislike them. 
Minmatar = Africa. The reasons should be real obvious, on a couple of levels. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Idara
Caldari Missioners Anonymous
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Del Narveux Amarr = Europe/Middle East. Fundamentalism meets absolute monarchy.
Caldari = Japan/America. Theyve got the whole hard-working road to success thing, but also the very Japanese duty to the state and all that. Also a number of Caldari system/NPC names seem to have a bit of an Eastern flair.
Gallente = France. Because the game says so, ps GG CCP for making everyone automatically dislike them. 
Minmatar = Africa. The reasons should be real obvious, on a couple of levels.
This is what I'd say exactly.
State before the individual is very Caldari and reflects Japanese work ethic etc
Amarr are definitely Middle Eastern, they're all religious and they all think they're better than everyone else. --- in EVE - Idara |

Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:52:00 -
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Come to think of it, Minmatar are Hindus.
It fits very well with the history of islamic rule in India and the idea of Amarr being muslim. (The 'Hindu Kush' mountain chain gets its name from all the Hindu slaves that died from the cold while being led over it, and the name means 'Slayer of Hindus'.)
Modern Pakistan are Ammatar.
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VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:13:00 -
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Pakistan in space
right
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Leonardo Sabrioski
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Leonardo Sabrioski on 28/04/2007 02:20:17 Judging from the characteristics of the 4 races and today's present races and considering that the less successful races have died out, and not considering genetic resemblance, cause mutations might and will occur...
Caldari: Asia, basically the eastern hemisphere(Highly proficient with electronics, eastern belief of "for the good of the group")
Amarr: Roman Catholicism & highly spiritual beliefs(highly religious, conservative, belief in purification and a higher diety, humbled)
Gallente: American & French, basically the western hemisphere(Free Democracy, free trade, individualism)
Minmitar: Atheists & Agnostics (My reasoning? They must have some sort of conflict with the Amarr and thus Atheists fit that description. Antidisestablishmentarianism. Flexible.) (My reasoning why it is not Africans, is because at this current state in human history, they seem more inline with the freethinking Gallente. Africa throughout its history has been colonized so through the ages they would ahve been incorporated into other races.) ----------------------------------------------
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Pooka
Caldari United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: Pooka on 28/04/2007 03:15:21
Originally by: Jaedar Metron The closes I have seen in the whole 2 pages. But the Minmatar are Nordic / Scandic like the Icelanders for sure.
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I thought most minmatars had brown eyes? If so they are clearly NOT scandinavian. Besides, Norway is actually a quite advanced country, and our style of life fits the Caldari State alot more than the tribal society. Period.
Minmatar with their tribal society probably hails from the middle east.
Caldari is a mix between Japan, Scandinavia and possibly Russia.
Amarr probably hails from southern europe, Italy, Spain etc.
Gallente are the central europeans, mostly french.
Jove are probably those damned crazy americans 
Can only go by what TomB and Overu said that the Minmatar were based on them selfs (Iceland) Viking types, the little guy, under dogs. Said it during the Vegas Gathering. PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT Walk the Walk and Talk the Talk
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Ma Raia'l
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:30:00 -
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For all those saying that the name Amarr = America, I'll point you to these two articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aten
Aten was the sun disk deity of the reformed Egyptian mythology under the reign of Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV). Akhenaten's reforms are the first case of monotheism in recorded history. During his reign Akhenaten establish the new Egyptian capital in the city of Amarna, where many temples dedicated to Aten were built(but all destroyed after Akhenaten's death).
So there you have it Amarr = Amarna, the city in which the first temples dedicated to a monotheistic deity were constructed.
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Lavinrac Krad
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum Amarr = Definitely American!
Well at least the Southern United States.
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2007.04.28 05:18:00 -
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Amarr = Roman Empire Minmatar = Middle Eastern tribes Gallente = Europe Caldari = USA/Japan
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.28 05:22:00 -
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i am still lost how people think caldari is russia ? they arent capitalist at all
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2007.04.28 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ghostshadow If you had to choose a country that the 4 races (Caldari/Amarr/Minmatar/Gallente) decended from, which would they be and why?
None of them descended from a particular country. When the wormhole collapsed, most societies collapsed with it. While struggling to survive and eventually regain starflight I'm sure that new and unique cultures would spring forth that wouldn't be easy to pigeon hole into a matching real world country.
Now if you were to ask what country/culture that each faction is similar to...
Amarr. Slave owning theocracy. Geez, check your history and pick most any ancient culture.
Minmatarr. Tribal based while struggling to create an identity/culture amongst the established (civilized) factions. Russia under Peter the Great? Europe's barbarians during around the time of the Roman empire?
Caldari. Corporatism and Nationalism. Modern Japan taken to an even greater extreme?
Gallente. Ancient Greece. With French ideas. Without the Spartans. We're so screwed...
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Zahril
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.28 05:35:00 -
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Funny how everyone seems to say Minmatar are African when at least if you come from Scandinavia you can see all their system names are very Scandinavian.
Minmatar - Scandinavians Gallente - French Caldari - Japanese/Asian (again mainly from system names) Amarr - this was hardest but i¦m gonna go with USA |

Gladia Horusthu
Gallente Anything Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Leonardo Sabrioski Edited by: Leonardo Sabrioski on 28/04/2007 02:20:17 Judging from the characteristics of the 4 races and today's present races and considering that the less successful races have died out, and not considering genetic resemblance, cause mutations might and will occur...
Caldari: Asia, basically the eastern hemisphere(Highly proficient with electronics, eastern belief of "for the good of the group")
Amarr: Roman Catholicism & highly spiritual beliefs(highly religious, conservative, belief in purification and a higher diety, humbled)
Gallente: American & French, basically the western hemisphere(Free Democracy, free trade, individualism)
Minmitar: Atheists & Agnostics (My reasoning? They must have some sort of conflict with the Amarr and thus Atheists fit that description. Antidisestablishmentarianism. Flexible.) (My reasoning why it is not Africans, is because at this current state in human history, they seem more inline with the freethinking Gallente. Africa throughout its history has been colonized so through the ages they would ahve been incorporated into other races.)
I'm sorry, but there's some serious misunderstanding of African history going on here. Africa was colonized ONE TIME by European powers. Granted, there were a handful of previous colonies (Carthage started out as one, for example) but the Dark Continent sported Egypt, Ethiopia (don't laugh, they have some wonderful monumental architecture going on there), Great Zimbabwe (no, we don't know who built it, but it definitely is home-grown), and trading empires that penetrated throughout West Africa. Just about every area in Africa has been shown in modern times to have been advanced and involved in high levels of organization in the past. This was completely ignored by the colonizing powers of Europe, and colonial teachings justifying what happened continue to be perpetuated today in a lot of classrooms and in books that I read.
Sorry, but I felt compelled to respond to this, as it is something that goes to the very heart of a lot of misunderstandings in the real world today.
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Inspir
Gallente VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Inspir on 28/04/2007 08:28:51 Edited by: Inspir on 28/04/2007 08:26:35 <my ideas here, clearly not Story line> I believe it was Mussolini which said ôthe ideal fascism is the perfect marriage between corporation and the stateö.
I canÆt think of any better RL allusion to the Caldari: Unbridled (and æsuccessfulÆ) fasc1sm.
Gallente (despite the Story line statements) I best associate with America at the dawn of WW2. A society initially founded on individual liberty and freedom is slowly dissolving into the context of keeping up with a universal competitive æedgeÆ on a militaristic/economic/social level. The death of individual liberty is accompanied by a rising millitary/industrial complex.
Amarr I associate with the ottoman empire more then any. Perfect example of political conquest complimented by the social implications of oppressive religious interpretation.
Minmatar represent the spirit of the revolutionary minority responsible for the American revolution, against British oppression. Or perhaps the more ancient rebels against the ottoman empire much like the Greek mountain fighters in the 16th (? I think) century and their equivalents.
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Ebusitanus
Mythical Warriors and Workers
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Posted - 2007.04.28 09:47:00 -
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I went through two pages to realitze that no one has any idea 
I also find it weird that even with people giving good backround hints taken from the storyline such hints are ignored on the very next post. I guess no one reads the whole thread  ------------------------------------------------ "Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!"
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VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: VanNostrum on 28/04/2007 09:52:31 Ottoman empire? When did ottoman empire go to space? lol Ancient city of Amarna? Ancient egyptians? Hindu-kush? Some very imaginative people here :P I thought Eve is in future, not the past. The way things are going, i'd definitely say Amarr: USA, Republicans,Conservatives, Bush descendants, Bush with implants reigning for 500 years, religious southern states (Khanid: democrats) Gallente: EU Minmatar: Latin America, opressed by Amarr Caldari: Future Asia-Pacific block, Japan+China+Korea+Australia
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