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![Ghostshadow Ghostshadow](https://images.evetech.net/characters/925284153/portrait?size=64)
Ghostshadow
Templars of Space CORE.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:08:00 -
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If you had to choose a country that the 4 races (Caldari/Amarr/Minmatar/Gallente) decended from, which would they be and why?
My views
Caldari = Russia. Dunno why, but when i think of missiles i think of Russia.
Minmatar = Africa. The most primitive of races and thier ships seem to be made of sticks and clay.
Gallente = No idea really, Maybe Japan? Robots(drones) and lots of high tech stuff, and what other country could make a Fugly bubblecar (Dominix)
Amarr. I'd say the old Roman empire. Very spirtulisic, uses slaves and control the most territory of the 3 other races.
Of course these are just my views, I'd be intrested to see what other people think.
If this needs to be in off-topic than could a mod please move it? It is eve related though so i posted it here.
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![Sheriff Jones Sheriff Jones](https://images.evetech.net/characters/673085407/portrait?size=64)
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/04/2007 18:06:34 Amarr=Great Britain. Church high involvement, Very much "upper class". Caldari= Industrial, warfare, make cash...USA. Gallente= French, really is in the storyline i believe. Minmatar=..err...terrorists? Seriously though, scandic nation could fit the description.
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![Tortilla Smasher Tortilla Smasher](https://images.evetech.net/characters/925812440/portrait?size=64)
Tortilla Smasher
The Stain Project The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:12:00 -
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Amarr=Wherever Buddha came from tbfh Minmatar=Ethopia? i thinks thats where theres a civil war 24/7 Gallente=Frence cause it says so in their BIO Caldari=America /or/ Russia --
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![Lucifer Fellblade Lucifer Fellblade](https://images.evetech.net/characters/179563559/portrait?size=64)
Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:12:00 -
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Amarr are decended from the Roman Catholic Church afaik, Gallente are French, Minmatar and Caldari aren't really explained anywhere.
Caldari is probably US, and Minmatar is probably the stereotypical black OMGZREBEL race, so choose a country where this happened. ------
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![Jim McGregor Jim McGregor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/786173472/portrait?size=64)
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/04/2007 18:11:12 Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/04/2007 18:09:51
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Minmatar=..err...terrorists? Seriously though, scandic nation could fit the description.
Minnies are..umm.. environmentally aware. Or something. Not even sure they fit under the same flag. But we do all carry uzis. ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif) --- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune |
![Mallick Mallick](https://images.evetech.net/characters/153382593/portrait?size=64)
Mallick
Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:14:00 -
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Surely Caldari resembles Na'zi-Germany?
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![Tortilla Smasher Tortilla Smasher](https://images.evetech.net/characters/925812440/portrait?size=64)
Tortilla Smasher
The Stain Project The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mallick Surely Caldari resembles Na'zi-Germany?
DO NOT AVOID THE SWEAR FILTER. ITS ****! --
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![Jimer Lins Jimer Lins](https://images.evetech.net/characters/772012401/portrait?size=64)
Jimer Lins
Gallente Sanctuary
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:18:00 -
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I sometimes think "Amarr" is a dig on "Americans" with the description of "True Amarrians" and so forth. ;)
Gallente descended from French settlers of Tau Ceti. The Jin-Mei, one assumes, would be of Chinese descent, and the Intaki, not sure.
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![Lucifer Fellblade Lucifer Fellblade](https://images.evetech.net/characters/179563559/portrait?size=64)
Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mallick Surely Caldari resembles Na'zi-Germany?
Capitalists with no dictatorship and no mass murder and no master race, doesn't seem very **** to me. ------
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![Mallick Mallick](https://images.evetech.net/characters/153382593/portrait?size=64)
Mallick
Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lucifer Fellblade
Originally by: Mallick Surely Caldari resembles Na'zi-Germany?
Capitalists with no dictatorship and no mass murder and no master race, doesn't seem very **** to me.
From the looks of Caldari avatars they fitt, but their ideology is more fitt for Amarr.
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![Celestra Ambrose Celestra Ambrose](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1334813548/portrait?size=64)
Celestra Ambrose
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:22:00 -
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Amarr - America / Rome (re: slavery)
Minmatar - Africa (re: oppressed, slaves etc)
Gallente - France (see Eve backstory)
Caldari - Germany
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![Lucifer Fellblade Lucifer Fellblade](https://images.evetech.net/characters/179563559/portrait?size=64)
Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mallick
Originally by: Lucifer Fellblade
Originally by: Mallick Surely Caldari resembles Na'zi-Germany?
Capitalists with no dictatorship and no mass murder and no master race, doesn't seem very **** to me.
From the looks of Caldari avatars they fitt, but their ideology is more fitt for Amarr.
Blond hair and blue eyes? ![Confused](/images/icon_confused.gif) ------
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![Gladia Horusthu Gladia Horusthu](https://images.evetech.net/characters/733881533/portrait?size=64)
Gladia Horusthu
Gallente Anything Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:25:00 -
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I've seen reference to the Caldari language as being a fusion of Japanese and Icelandic. I think that culturally the Caldari are kind of a Japan/US fusion.
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![Kweel Nakashyn Kweel Nakashyn](https://images.evetech.net/characters/192999720/portrait?size=64)
Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lucifer Fellblade (...) and Minmatar is probably the stereotypical black OMGZREBEL race(...)
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![Ma'Kur Pridar Ma'Kur Pridar](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1860752618/portrait?size=64)
Ma'Kur Pridar
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:29:00 -
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Caldari - represented the asian community, there was some reason why they couldnt get the avs working or something.
Amarr - Western society, your US, GB etc. God fearing nations.
Gallente - Majority French origin, so more european, more liberal views etc
Minmatar - quite clearly the african continents.
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![Agent Li Agent Li](https://images.evetech.net/characters/328556091/portrait?size=64)
Agent Li
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:31:00 -
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![Evelgrivion Evelgrivion](https://images.evetech.net/characters/927891398/portrait?size=64)
Evelgrivion
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:33:00 -
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Caldari = Japan + USA Minmatar = African Nations Gallente = French + other progressive aimed European nations Amarr = Old world European/Britain moralists and hardliners ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|--- This isn't the signature you're looking for. |
![Rodj Blake Rodj Blake](https://images.evetech.net/characters/383783955/portrait?size=64)
Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/04/2007 18:34:27 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/04/2007 18:33:31
Khanid - Mongolian Amarr - Latin Ni-Kunni - Middle Eastern
Deitis - Finnish Achura - Japanese Civire - North American
Sebiestor - Scandinavian Brutor - Central African Verihokior - Chinese
Gallente - French Intaki - South Asian (India / Pakistan) Jin-Mei - Korean
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![Wendat Huron Wendat Huron](https://images.evetech.net/characters/120521004/portrait?size=64)
Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:41:00 -
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Minmatar, southeast asia, africa and possibly south america, a mix of those not favoured by the other entitys spaceprograms pooling their resources and remaining in the backwater ever since.
Amarr, americans, so overbearingly it's dumbfounding anyone actually miss it.
Caldari, eastern european, including Russia, and japanese conglomerate.
Gallente, western european, spearheaded by the french.
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![Saint Lazarus Saint Lazarus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/891881484/portrait?size=64)
Saint Lazarus
Blood Stained Angels
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:53:00 -
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Minmater are clearly the Irish of EvE ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif) :insert cool signature here: |
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![Sakura Nihil Sakura Nihil](https://images.evetech.net/characters/409891337/portrait?size=64)
Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:57:00 -
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Caldari - America, Japan, Britain combined with good economic sense, the Japanese names, and a love of high technology over brute force or numbers. Gallente - France and potentially mainland Europe, as their race description even says so. Minmatar - Africa and the Middle East, physically strong and well-trained but lacking in technology; tribal roots also help this case. Amarr - Spain and Latin America, as they are a extremist Catholic sect gone haywire, maybe Italian as well.
Jove......who knows? Probably some American or European group of elites that tried to genetically manipulate themselves early on.
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![Joshua Foiritain Joshua Foiritain](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1370443714/portrait?size=64)
Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:03:00 -
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Caldari are from Japan, they dont fit the US by a long shot tbh. ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif) -----
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![ReePeR McAllem ReePeR McAllem](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1564943239/portrait?size=64)
ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:03:00 -
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Minmatar are clearly jamaicans.
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![Scagga Laebetrovo Scagga Laebetrovo](https://images.evetech.net/characters/803753544/portrait?size=64)
Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:03:00 -
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Khanid - Japanese Amarr - Latin Ni-Kunni - Middle Eastern
Deitis - Finnish? Achura - Chinese Civire - American
Sebiestor - Slavic Brutor - African Vheriokior - Korean
Gallente - French Intaki - Western Europe Jin-Mei - Vietnamese/Filipino
Jove - While it is hard to tell due to the extensive modification, I would assume a band of scientists, perhaps of similar origins to the Caldari.
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![Kagura Nikon Kagura Nikon](https://images.evetech.net/characters/520439885/portrait?size=64)
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:12:00 -
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If you pay attention some of teh ammar rules match to Christianic religion ones. So could be any Western or Muslim people.
Minmatar could very well be with their clan structure, something derived from south american natives or africa.
Gallente are french.
Caldari are US or UK.
Jovians are probably crazy russiaans that ran out of vodka aftre the gate collapsed and with nothing else to do started with genetics.
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![Selena 001 Selena 001](https://images.evetech.net/characters/917547194/portrait?size=64)
Selena 001
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:12:00 -
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Last I checked Caldari space was filled with solarsystem names that looked FAR more Oriental (Japanese in particular) rather than American...
Gallente are french... so were told...
From there it gets a little hazy. I mean, whos to say there not a mix of the current nationalities?
Amarr could be anyone (if you read the backstory, they simply got out of the dark ages and re-invented space flight first, and happened to be religious... hardly narrows it down).
Matari's could also be anyone... They were just the first bunch of people to get beaten up and enslaved. I mean, how the hell would 3rd world countries get people into space, and through the wormhole into a new galaxys anyway?
Comparing a race thousands of years in the future, based on the current position of the world powers? Even for a laugh thats stupid...
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![Miss Mental Miss Mental](https://images.evetech.net/characters/832281073/portrait?size=64)
Miss Mental
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:41:00 -
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they all decent from monkeys
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![SiJira SiJira](https://images.evetech.net/characters/955154567/portrait?size=64)
SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ghostshadow If you had to choose a country that the 4 races (Caldari/Amarr/Minmatar/Gallente) decended from, which would they be and why?
My views
Caldari = Russia. Dunno why, but when i think of missiles i think of Russia.
Minmatar = Africa. The most primitive of races and thier ships seem to be made of sticks and clay.
Gallente = No idea really, Maybe Japan? Robots(drones) and lots of high tech stuff, and what other country could make a Fugly bubblecar (Dominix)
Amarr. I'd say the old Roman empire. Very spirtulisic, uses slaves and control the most territory of the 3 other races.
Of course these are just my views, I'd be intrested to see what other people think.
If this needs to be in off-topic than could a mod please move it? It is eve related though so i posted it here.
caldari are americans and gallente are french
that i know for sure
id have to say minmatar is a mix of african / middle east and
amarr would be peoples ranging from the light skinned middle eastern to the slavic descendants of eastern europe
you cant really take what they use or their ways as to tell what they are - but gallente directly states that they are of french origin and they eat all those strange delicacies hehe
caldari - capitalism what more is there to say ?
minmatar are warrior peoples and like to keep to themselves so...
amarr are religious - you could say this is the only faction that really doesnt come from a specific peoples its just the zealous knights - but look at how their faces are shaped and thats where i got my explanation from
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![Cloue Cloue](https://images.evetech.net/characters/634302342/portrait?size=64)
Cloue
Gallente Stripping Agency
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/04/2007 18:06:34 Amarr=Great Britain. Church high involvement, Very much "upper class". Caldari= Industrial, warfare, make cash...USA. Gallente= French, really is in the storyline i believe. Minmatar=..err...terrorists? Seriously though, scandic nation could fit the description.
If Amarr were British then Minmatar are Irish
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![SiJira SiJira](https://images.evetech.net/characters/955154567/portrait?size=64)
SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:52:00 -
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the amarr dont fit latin criteria they are like orthodox christians
amrr fits british in the way they expand but not in anything else imho
but then you can look at them as rome and others and even muslims wich could be what CCP meant them to really represent
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![Korad Konstentyn Korad Konstentyn](https://images.evetech.net/characters/828129281/portrait?size=64)
Korad Konstentyn
The Genyosha Society
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Posted - 2007.04.27 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jimer Lins I sometimes think "Amarr" is a dig on "Americans" with the description of "True Amarrians" and so forth. ;)
DING! give this man a cookie.
Yep, there's backstory specifically stating that the Amarricans are descended from an ultra-conservative catholic splinter group, the Conformists.
The American aspect is more subtle (barring the name), but the image of a nation built on slavery is hard to miss.
Although the Gallente are specifically id'ed as French, I think there's definately more of a reference to Brussels (home of the EU) and more of the northern European countries with those guys.
Which is amusing, because the Minmatar are...Black Vikings?
And yes, the Caldari are filthy goose-stepping National Socialist fascists. Sorry all you caldari folks, but at the next FanFest, you might want to ask the devs where they got the name 'Torrinos' (Rex) from.
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![Karash Amerius Karash Amerius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/147074120/portrait?size=64)
Karash Amerius
Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 20:27:00 -
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Guys get it right...
Amarr are a cross between Persians and the Orthodox Empire. Think Turkey to the borders of India, and Sub-Sahara Africa.
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![Trem Sinval Trem Sinval](https://images.evetech.net/characters/103028116/portrait?size=64)
Trem Sinval
Sinval Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:47:00 -
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Everyone in EVE is clearly descended from Icelanders. Why else would EVERYONE be pale, sickly, and bony?
Heck, even the Brutor can only manage a light tinge at best. It's a sure sign that someone's spent too much time around their fellow country-men. We're not all proto-Germanics!
For instance, where are the hot Latin chicks? How about a nice Mongolian? South China Sea? Saharan Africa? Eskimo? A real Chinese line, with that lovely ivory skin, or some real Slavics?
Everyone on Earth comes in nice shades of brown, so why are the only choices white, whiter, and "what is this thing you call the 'Sun'"?
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![Haakon Jarl Haakon Jarl](https://images.evetech.net/characters/149522870/portrait?size=64)
Haakon Jarl
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Haakon Jarl on 27/04/2007 21:52:32
Originally by: Ma'Kur Pridar
Amarr - Western society, your US, GB etc. God fearing nations.
Besides the US western nations is anything but god fearing. In fact the west is the ost secular society on the planet. And rightly so.
Anyhow I see Caldari as a mix between Germany and the US.
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![William Hamilton William Hamilton](https://images.evetech.net/characters/730066220/portrait?size=64)
William Hamilton
Caldari THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:00:00 -
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It's not who the 4 races descended from, you need to go by bloodlines
Deteis = Civere = Britan Achura =
Jin Mei = Japan? Gallante = France Intaki = Hippies?
Amaar = Khanid = China? ??? = ???
Brutor = African Sebestior = ??? Vehikolor = Korea?
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![SiJira SiJira](https://images.evetech.net/characters/955154567/portrait?size=64)
SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Karash Amerius Guys get it right...
Amarr are a cross between Persians and the Orthodox Empire. Think Turkey to the borders of India, and Sub-Sahara Africa.
wow thats exactly what i thought did you read this somewhere acuse i just figured it out ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
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![SiJira SiJira](https://images.evetech.net/characters/955154567/portrait?size=64)
SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: William Hamilton It's not who the 4 races descended from, you need to go by bloodlines
Deteis = Civere = Britan Achura =
Jin Mei = Japan? Gallante = France Intaki = Hippies?
Amaar = Khanid = China? ??? = ???
Brutor = African Sebestior = ??? Vehikolor = Korea?
yea but all the factions have a main bloodline
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![Wild Rho Wild Rho](https://images.evetech.net/characters/321189808/portrait?size=64)
Wild Rho
Amarr GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:09:00 -
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Caldari are from Asian decent, trying to remember where I read it but you can see it in their corp names.
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![Abye Abye](https://images.evetech.net/characters/177149992/portrait?size=64)
Abye
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:28:00 -
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Caldari are clearly inspired by the boomeras japanese societies where the big corporations have more power than the goverment. Their names sound like a blend of finnish and japanese. ___
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![Pooka Pooka](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1127353194/portrait?size=64)
Pooka
Caldari United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Pooka on 27/04/2007 23:48:07
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/04/2007 18:06:34 Amarr=Great Britain. Church high involvement, Very much "upper class". Caldari= Industrial, warfare, make cash...USA. Gallente= French, really is in the storyline i believe. Minmatar=..err...terrorists? Seriously though, scandic nation could fit the description.
The closes I have seen in the whole 2 pages. But the Minmatar are Nordic / Scandic like the Icelanders for sure.
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![Jaedar Metron Jaedar Metron](https://images.evetech.net/characters/853350791/portrait?size=64)
Jaedar Metron
Artificial Horizons YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jaedar Metron on 28/04/2007 00:04:17 Edited by: Jaedar Metron on 28/04/2007 00:02:38
Originally by: Pooka Edited by: Pooka on 27/04/2007 23:48:07
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/04/2007 18:06:34 Amarr=Great Britain. Church high involvement, Very much "upper class". Caldari= Industrial, warfare, make cash...USA. Gallente= French, really is in the storyline i believe. Minmatar=..err...terrorists? Seriously though, scandic nation could fit the description.
The closes I have seen in the whole 2 pages. But the Minmatar are Nordic / Scandic like the Icelanders for sure.
I thought most minmatars had brown eyes? If so they are clearly NOT scandinavian. Besides, Norway is actually a quite advanced country, and our style of life fits the Caldari State alot more than the tribal society. Period.![Evil or Very Mad](/images/icon_evil.gif)
Minmatar with their tribal society probably hails from the middle east.
Caldari is a mix between Japan, Scandinavia and possibly Russia.
Amarr probably hails from southern europe, Italy, Spain etc.
Gallente are the central europeans, mostly french.
Jove are probably those damned crazy americans ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
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![VanNostrum VanNostrum](https://images.evetech.net/characters/586300420/portrait?size=64)
VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:08:00 -
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Amarr = Definitely American!
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![Hannobaal Hannobaal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/839306330/portrait?size=64)
Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:21:00 -
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Amarr = muslim
Dogmatic, rigid, religious society. Slavery (which is condoned in the Qur'an and was common in the islamic world from the very beginning 'til the Brittish made them stop in the 1800s). Superiority complex crushed by defeat. Chauvinism...
Defitinitely Islamic.
Caldari system names remind me of both Finnish and Japanese.
Gallente have French sounding names on their systems... But capitalistic, meddling, individualistic? Definitely American.
Minmatar are hard to place, but Native Americans perhaps.
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![Cipher7 Cipher7](https://images.evetech.net/characters/680239681/portrait?size=64)
Cipher7
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:34:00 -
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According to the game lore :
Caldari = Descendants of a huge corporation (think UAC from Doom 3)
Amarr = Unified Catholic Church
Gallente = French Space Colonists
Minmatar = The lore doesn't say much, just says they settled on Pator after the Eve gate closed.
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![Del Narveux Del Narveux](https://images.evetech.net/characters/962942794/portrait?size=64)
Del Narveux
Obsidian Angels Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:43:00 -
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Amarr = Europe/Middle East. Fundamentalism meets absolute monarchy.
Caldari = Japan/America. Theyve got the whole hard-working road to success thing, but also the very Japanese duty to the state and all that. Also a number of Caldari system/NPC names seem to have a bit of an Eastern flair.
Gallente = France. Because the game says so, ps GG CCP for making everyone automatically dislike them. ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
Minmatar = Africa. The reasons should be real obvious, on a couple of levels. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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![Idara Idara](https://images.evetech.net/characters/849447723/portrait?size=64)
Idara
Caldari Missioners Anonymous
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Del Narveux Amarr = Europe/Middle East. Fundamentalism meets absolute monarchy.
Caldari = Japan/America. Theyve got the whole hard-working road to success thing, but also the very Japanese duty to the state and all that. Also a number of Caldari system/NPC names seem to have a bit of an Eastern flair.
Gallente = France. Because the game says so, ps GG CCP for making everyone automatically dislike them. ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
Minmatar = Africa. The reasons should be real obvious, on a couple of levels.
This is what I'd say exactly.
State before the individual is very Caldari and reflects Japanese work ethic etc
Amarr are definitely Middle Eastern, they're all religious and they all think they're better than everyone else. --- in EVE - Idara |
![Hannobaal Hannobaal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/839306330/portrait?size=64)
Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:52:00 -
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Come to think of it, Minmatar are Hindus.
It fits very well with the history of islamic rule in India and the idea of Amarr being muslim. (The 'Hindu Kush' mountain chain gets its name from all the Hindu slaves that died from the cold while being led over it, and the name means 'Slayer of Hindus'.)
Modern Pakistan are Ammatar.
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![VanNostrum VanNostrum](https://images.evetech.net/characters/586300420/portrait?size=64)
VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:13:00 -
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Pakistan in space
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Leonardo Sabrioski
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Leonardo Sabrioski on 28/04/2007 02:20:17 Judging from the characteristics of the 4 races and today's present races and considering that the less successful races have died out, and not considering genetic resemblance, cause mutations might and will occur...
Caldari: Asia, basically the eastern hemisphere(Highly proficient with electronics, eastern belief of "for the good of the group")
Amarr: Roman Catholicism & highly spiritual beliefs(highly religious, conservative, belief in purification and a higher diety, humbled)
Gallente: American & French, basically the western hemisphere(Free Democracy, free trade, individualism)
Minmitar: Atheists & Agnostics (My reasoning? They must have some sort of conflict with the Amarr and thus Atheists fit that description. Antidisestablishmentarianism. Flexible.) (My reasoning why it is not Africans, is because at this current state in human history, they seem more inline with the freethinking Gallente. Africa throughout its history has been colonized so through the ages they would ahve been incorporated into other races.) ----------------------------------------------
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Pooka
Caldari United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: Pooka on 28/04/2007 03:15:21
Originally by: Jaedar Metron The closes I have seen in the whole 2 pages. But the Minmatar are Nordic / Scandic like the Icelanders for sure.
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I thought most minmatars had brown eyes? If so they are clearly NOT scandinavian. Besides, Norway is actually a quite advanced country, and our style of life fits the Caldari State alot more than the tribal society. Period.![Evil or Very Mad](/images/icon_evil.gif)
Minmatar with their tribal society probably hails from the middle east.
Caldari is a mix between Japan, Scandinavia and possibly Russia.
Amarr probably hails from southern europe, Italy, Spain etc.
Gallente are the central europeans, mostly french.
Jove are probably those damned crazy americans ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
Can only go by what TomB and Overu said that the Minmatar were based on them selfs (Iceland) Viking types, the little guy, under dogs. Said it during the Vegas Gathering. PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT Walk the Walk and Talk the Talk
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Ma Raia'l
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:30:00 -
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For all those saying that the name Amarr = America, I'll point you to these two articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aten
Aten was the sun disk deity of the reformed Egyptian mythology under the reign of Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV). Akhenaten's reforms are the first case of monotheism in recorded history. During his reign Akhenaten establish the new Egyptian capital in the city of Amarna, where many temples dedicated to Aten were built(but all destroyed after Akhenaten's death).
So there you have it Amarr = Amarna, the city in which the first temples dedicated to a monotheistic deity were constructed.
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Lavinrac Krad
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum Amarr = Definitely American!
Well at least the Southern United States.
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2007.04.28 05:18:00 -
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Amarr = Roman Empire Minmatar = Middle Eastern tribes Gallente = Europe Caldari = USA/Japan
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![SiJira SiJira](https://images.evetech.net/characters/955154567/portrait?size=64)
SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.28 05:22:00 -
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i am still lost how people think caldari is russia ? they arent capitalist at all
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2007.04.28 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ghostshadow If you had to choose a country that the 4 races (Caldari/Amarr/Minmatar/Gallente) decended from, which would they be and why?
None of them descended from a particular country. When the wormhole collapsed, most societies collapsed with it. While struggling to survive and eventually regain starflight I'm sure that new and unique cultures would spring forth that wouldn't be easy to pigeon hole into a matching real world country.
Now if you were to ask what country/culture that each faction is similar to...
Amarr. Slave owning theocracy. Geez, check your history and pick most any ancient culture.
Minmatarr. Tribal based while struggling to create an identity/culture amongst the established (civilized) factions. Russia under Peter the Great? Europe's barbarians during around the time of the Roman empire?
Caldari. Corporatism and Nationalism. Modern Japan taken to an even greater extreme?
Gallente. Ancient Greece. With French ideas. Without the Spartans. We're so screwed...
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Zahril
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.28 05:35:00 -
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Funny how everyone seems to say Minmatar are African when at least if you come from Scandinavia you can see all their system names are very Scandinavian.
Minmatar - Scandinavians Gallente - French Caldari - Japanese/Asian (again mainly from system names) Amarr - this was hardest but i¦m gonna go with USA |
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Gladia Horusthu
Gallente Anything Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Leonardo Sabrioski Edited by: Leonardo Sabrioski on 28/04/2007 02:20:17 Judging from the characteristics of the 4 races and today's present races and considering that the less successful races have died out, and not considering genetic resemblance, cause mutations might and will occur...
Caldari: Asia, basically the eastern hemisphere(Highly proficient with electronics, eastern belief of "for the good of the group")
Amarr: Roman Catholicism & highly spiritual beliefs(highly religious, conservative, belief in purification and a higher diety, humbled)
Gallente: American & French, basically the western hemisphere(Free Democracy, free trade, individualism)
Minmitar: Atheists & Agnostics (My reasoning? They must have some sort of conflict with the Amarr and thus Atheists fit that description. Antidisestablishmentarianism. Flexible.) (My reasoning why it is not Africans, is because at this current state in human history, they seem more inline with the freethinking Gallente. Africa throughout its history has been colonized so through the ages they would ahve been incorporated into other races.)
I'm sorry, but there's some serious misunderstanding of African history going on here. Africa was colonized ONE TIME by European powers. Granted, there were a handful of previous colonies (Carthage started out as one, for example) but the Dark Continent sported Egypt, Ethiopia (don't laugh, they have some wonderful monumental architecture going on there), Great Zimbabwe (no, we don't know who built it, but it definitely is home-grown), and trading empires that penetrated throughout West Africa. Just about every area in Africa has been shown in modern times to have been advanced and involved in high levels of organization in the past. This was completely ignored by the colonizing powers of Europe, and colonial teachings justifying what happened continue to be perpetuated today in a lot of classrooms and in books that I read.
Sorry, but I felt compelled to respond to this, as it is something that goes to the very heart of a lot of misunderstandings in the real world today.
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![Inspir Inspir](https://images.evetech.net/characters/815150289/portrait?size=64)
Inspir
Gallente VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Inspir on 28/04/2007 08:28:51 Edited by: Inspir on 28/04/2007 08:26:35 <my ideas here, clearly not Story line> I believe it was Mussolini which said ôthe ideal fascism is the perfect marriage between corporation and the stateö.
I canÆt think of any better RL allusion to the Caldari: Unbridled (and æsuccessfulÆ) fasc1sm.
Gallente (despite the Story line statements) I best associate with America at the dawn of WW2. A society initially founded on individual liberty and freedom is slowly dissolving into the context of keeping up with a universal competitive æedgeÆ on a militaristic/economic/social level. The death of individual liberty is accompanied by a rising millitary/industrial complex.
Amarr I associate with the ottoman empire more then any. Perfect example of political conquest complimented by the social implications of oppressive religious interpretation.
Minmatar represent the spirit of the revolutionary minority responsible for the American revolution, against British oppression. Or perhaps the more ancient rebels against the ottoman empire much like the Greek mountain fighters in the 16th (? I think) century and their equivalents.
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![Ebusitanus Ebusitanus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/485452026/portrait?size=64)
Ebusitanus
Mythical Warriors and Workers
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Posted - 2007.04.28 09:47:00 -
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I went through two pages to realitze that no one has any idea ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
I also find it weird that even with people giving good backround hints taken from the storyline such hints are ignored on the very next post. I guess no one reads the whole thread ![Confused](/images/icon_confused.gif) ------------------------------------------------ "Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!"
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VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: VanNostrum on 28/04/2007 09:52:31 Ottoman empire? When did ottoman empire go to space? lol Ancient city of Amarna? Ancient egyptians? Hindu-kush? Some very imaginative people here :P I thought Eve is in future, not the past. The way things are going, i'd definitely say Amarr: USA, Republicans,Conservatives, Bush descendants, Bush with implants reigning for 500 years, religious southern states (Khanid: democrats) Gallente: EU Minmatar: Latin America, opressed by Amarr Caldari: Future Asia-Pacific block, Japan+China+Korea+Australia
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![Fswd Fswd](https://images.evetech.net/characters/911228096/portrait?size=64)
Fswd
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Posted - 2007.04.28 09:59:00 -
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I know i know!!!
From a DEV brainstorming session. --- So I flame and troll when the occasion calls for it. So what are you gonna do about it? |
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Mastin Dragonfly
Absolutely No Return
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Posted - 2007.04.28 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tortilla Smasher Amarr=Wherever Buddha came from tbfh
Off all the big religions in the world, buddhism is by far the one with the least simularities to what the Amarr preach... ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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![Sheriff Jones Sheriff Jones](https://images.evetech.net/characters/673085407/portrait?size=64)
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.28 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 28/04/2007 10:31:47 Oh and shouldn't the topic be "ascend"...i hardly think these five(*cough*six*cough*) races are more primal then their ancestors ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
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![Hannobaal Hannobaal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/839306330/portrait?size=64)
Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: Hannobaal on 28/04/2007 10:37:11
Originally by: SiJira i am still lost how people think caldari is russia ? they arent capitalist at all
Well, the Caldari aren't capitalists in the true sense of Laissez-Faire free market capitalism like the Gallente are. They're more 'State Capitalism', and Russia right now does fit that description.
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![Hannobaal Hannobaal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/839306330/portrait?size=64)
Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum Pakistan in space
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What the hell does that have to do with anything? ![Question](/images/icon_question.gif)
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![VanNostrum VanNostrum](https://images.evetech.net/characters/586300420/portrait?size=64)
VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: VanNostrum Pakistan in space
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What the hell does that have to do with anything? ![Question](/images/icon_question.gif)
Exactly You said "Come to think of it, Minmatar are Hindus. Modern Pakistan are Ammatar." It's just hard to imagine Pakistan a space power
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![Minigarch Minigarch](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1370368016/portrait?size=64)
Minigarch
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Posted - 2007.04.28 10:50:00 -
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Amarr - mix of Americans Anglo-Saxes/Jews. So-called Judeo-Christian civilisation. Gallente - Mediterranean Europe. Spain, France, Italy, some Balcan nations. Caldari - Russian/Japanese/probably Germany. State-controlled economics, be it capitalism or socialism or whatever, secular soft dictatorship, primacy of national over personal inetrests Minmatar - Middle-eastern muslims/South americans/opressed north american black minority.
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![sableye sableye](https://images.evetech.net/characters/974920541/portrait?size=64)
sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:00:00 -
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all races are decended from icelanders after they conqoured the world with there 2 super bridges (seen in the opening movie)
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![Hannobaal Hannobaal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/839306330/portrait?size=64)
Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Hannobaal on 28/04/2007 11:00:13
Originally by: VanNostrum
Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: VanNostrum Pakistan in space
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What the hell does that have to do with anything? ![Question](/images/icon_question.gif)
Exactly You said "Come to think of it, Minmatar are Hindus. Modern Pakistan are Ammatar." It's just hard to imagine Pakistan a space power
By that token, it's hard to imagine anyone on earth traveling outside of our solar system at this time. What is your point?
I wasn't even talking about contemporary events (except for Pakistan). Symbolically, they fit. I mean how else, can we relate any of the Eve races to people on our planet except either linguistically, or symbolically in who is most similar to who?
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![VanNostrum VanNostrum](https://images.evetech.net/characters/586300420/portrait?size=64)
VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: VanNostrum on 28/04/2007 10:57:29
Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: VanNostrum
Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: VanNostrum Pakistan in space
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What the hell does that have to do with anything? ![Question](/images/icon_question.gif)
Exactly You said "Come to think of it, Minmatar are Hindus. Modern Pakistan are Ammatar." It's just hard to imagine Pakistan a space power
By that token, it's hard to imagine anyone on earth traveling outside of our solar system at this time. What is your point?
doh! nvm
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![Hannobaal Hannobaal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/839306330/portrait?size=64)
Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:03:00 -
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Sorry to have to say it, but you sir are an idiot.
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 28/04/2007 11:26:53
AMARR
Not necessarily from any specific country, group of various Christian-like religious hardliners. Might have descendants of various Europeean countries, former USSR states and the some from the USA. At least, that goes for the main bloodline, Amarr. Khanid are (like their name implies) of mainly Mongolian (and other central-Asian) heritage. I'm a bit hazy on the Ni-kunni.
CALDARI
The current day megacorporation culture (especially that of Japanese megacorporations) seem to be that the corporation is your new country, regardless of your actual country of origin. So, Caldari people aren't specifically descendants of a single "race" or "nation", but the general mindset is definetely Japanese-inspired. Civire and Deteis are pretty "generic", none of them clearly defined... I'd say from all around the western worlds, USA and Europe alike. Achuras are definetely asian, mostly Japanese, maybe some others too.
GALLENTE
While the main bloodline, Gallente is indeed mainly composed of descendants of French settlers, that doesn't mean all Gallente-gallente are French. Especially given their libertarian outlook, they must have had the heaviest "cross-breeding" with other races.
Intaki, I'd have to say are a weird bunch. If I'd have to venture a guess, I'd say they're the descendants of the USA settlers that were neither strongly Christian (those would have gone to the Amarr side) nor loyal to a certain corporation (those would be Caldari). Basically, Intaki are the average American citizen. Yup, Intaki = USA.
As for Jin-mei... Chinese, definitely. Not quite matching ideology-wise (caste system? wth!), but... oh, well, you never know what a long time will do to your nation.
MINMATAR
Again, can't be classed as descendants of any single nation, except maybe Brutor. Brutor, they are the closest to what you'd call "African American". You know, not actually African at all anymore. More like, USA ghetto, most probably. Hey, there's a bit of USA in every EVE "race" it seems.
Sebiestor and Vherokior, no clue what to make of them. Let's just be on the safe side and call them "rebels". You know, people that couldn't fit in with any of the others... again, no specific nation nor race (sebiestor more on the "white USA" and European side, Vherokior more on the "yellow USA" and Asia side), just a rag-tag bunch of people from various places that somehow bonded together because of hardships. ____
P.S.
You can pretty much safely conclude that only a handfull of EVE races actually "descended" from a current-day nation. And those are Gallente-Gallente (French), Caldari-Achura (Japanese), Khanid (Mongolian) and just maybe Gallente-Jin-mei (Chinese).
Everything else is just a big mix, with USA, Europe and Asia present everywhere. Australia... well, wherever it says "western", Australia is included. Sorry, no actual Africa (unless you say some of the Brutor are africans). _ MySkills | Module/Rig stacknerfing explained |
![Nefertria Amarriantis Nefertria Amarriantis](https://images.evetech.net/characters/592030740/portrait?size=64)
Nefertria Amarriantis
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:41:00 -
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Im not saying any of the people I am going to mention are actual space powers - so lay of the childish comments - I am merely making a cultural comparison from how I see the game. To me the four major races are based on four stages of human civilisations development.
The Minmatar are seemingly based on ancient hunter/gather and pastoral societies such as the Celts, the Picts and the various Native American nations. Based around tribal modes of existence their slavery and subsequent escape from it very in line with a common theme found in a lot of the ancient tribal cultures of our own - oppression from those who deem themselves "more civilised" - symbolised in game by the Amarr.
The Amarr are based on the Roman Empire - ruled by an emperor, steeped in religion, the element of monotheism found in the Amarrian state simply reflects Rome's later shift to Christianity under the rule of Emperor Constantine. Their military application a more complex reflection of Roman military styles, I find the similarities more than enough to make a comparison.
Jumping ahead in history we reach the Caldari, conducive with the totalitarian life of the industrial age - the uniform often seen on various Caldari avatars I feel very much symbolizes the age, with many smatterings of World War II. Regimented, unwavering - the controlling state,all indicative of wartime Germany and cold war Russia.
Lastly we have the Gallente, symbolic very much of the here and now - the pursuit of the senses, the pusuit of pleasure, modernized, technologically advanced and prone to excess - is it no surprise how many players choose Gallente. The various fictional accounts we have of the Gallente very much point to a lifestyle we can all relate to, places not too dissimilar to where we live (admittedly to visit the Crystal Boulevard woiuld be rather good!)
Well - theres my view on the races - I am not saying they are conclusive or correct to anyone else but it is how I view them.
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Nefertria Amarriantis
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 28/04/2007 10:31:47 Oh and shouldn't the topic be "ascend"...i hardly think these five(*cough*six*cough*) races are more primal then their ancestors ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
A family tree is never done with your ancestors at the bottom, always the top - this is where the reference to descendant comes from - to descend from them at the top. If you wanted to be completely specific about it, each new member of a generation descends (literally, at birth) from the mother - but happen we are getting a tad too tehnical ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif) ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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![Ryoji Tanakama Ryoji Tanakama](https://images.evetech.net/characters/930433983/portrait?size=64)
Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ryoji Tanakama on 28/04/2007 11:54:02 Post eve gate humanity would have been to vast to fit modern earth demographics, but on an inspirational level:
Amarr - holy roman empire / germania - high latin and modern christian church influence Minmatar - Northern european and indigenous nort/south american. Tribalistic, warlike and independant. Caldari - hyper capitalism, western europe, USA and Japan. Gallente - hyper democratic, modern middle to western europe.
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![Cletus Graeme Cletus Graeme](https://images.evetech.net/characters/157089606/portrait?size=64)
Cletus Graeme
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 28/04/2007 11:58:09
Originally by: Idara
Originally by: Del Narveux Amarr = Europe/Middle East. Fundamentalism meets absolute monarchy.
Caldari = Japan/America. Theyve got the whole hard-working road to success thing, but also the very Japanese duty to the state and all that. Also a number of Caldari system/NPC names seem to have a bit of an Eastern flair.
Gallente = France. Because the game says so, ps GG CCP for making everyone automatically dislike them. ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
Minmatar = Africa. The reasons should be real obvious, on a couple of levels.
This is what I'd say exactly.
State before the individual is very Caldari and reflects Japanese work ethic etc
Amarr are definitely Middle Eastern, they're all religious and they all think they're better than everyone else.
Yup, I think this is the closest match so far.
Caldari - corporate work ethic, purely capitalistic, hi-tec, small but strong economy = early Japan + 20th century Japan mixed in with strong US influence as evidenced by the japanese sounding names and the militaristic society (feudal japan)
Gallente - liberal, democratic, nationalistic - NW europe (france is mentioned specifically ofc but it applies to most NW european states (e.g Holland, Belgium, Denmark - possibly also Austria/Switz/Germany ?) Most european countries are very liberal about soft drugs and sex, for example, and europe is definitely democratic - sometimes beaucratically so !
Amarr - Middle-East mix of Christian/Muslim/Egyptian influences as evidence by their monarchy, beautiful stations (think golden mosques), slavery (there is still a 2 tier society in many middle eastern countries and has been in the past) and monotheistic religious conservatism (Judaism, Chrsitainity and Islam all came from the middle east)
Minmatar - The Vikings basically, disorganised tribes who fight amongst themselves but are savage individual warriors who excel at hit and run raids (*****and pillage) into other territories. The original pirates of the hi-seas !
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![VanNostrum VanNostrum](https://images.evetech.net/characters/586300420/portrait?size=64)
VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: VanNostrum on 28/04/2007 11:58:39
Originally by: Hannobaal Sorry to have to say it, but you sir are an idiot.
you're american aren't you? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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![Hannobaal Hannobaal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/839306330/portrait?size=64)
Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cletus Graeme slavery (there is still a 2 tier society in many middle eastern countries and has been in the past)
Not just that, but actual slavery. Slavery is allowed in the Qur'an and it lays out rules for how you should treat slaves. All the big Islamic empires kept and traded slaves well into the late 1800s. Not just from Africa, but also Turks, Slavs, Hindus and many others. Most of the slaves from Africa that Europeans started keeping after the 1500s were bought from African Muslim slave traders.
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VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Cletus Graeme slavery (there is still a 2 tier society in many middle eastern countries and has been in the past)
Not just that, but actual slavery. Slavery is allowed in the Qur'an and it lays out rules for how you should treat slaves. All the big Islamic empires kept and traded slaves well into the late 1800s. Not just from Africa, but also Turks, Slavs, Hindus and many others. Most of the slaves from Africa that Europeans started keeping after the 1500s were bought from African Muslim slave traders.
from a southern state too i presume
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![Hannobaal Hannobaal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/839306330/portrait?size=64)
Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum Edited by: VanNostrum on 28/04/2007 11:58:39
Originally by: Hannobaal Sorry to have to say it, but you sir are an idiot.
you're american aren't you? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
Being prejudiced is bad. You do know that, don't you?
No, I'm not American (not that I would mind being one).
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VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal Not just that, but actual slavery. Slavery is allowed in the Qur'an and it lays out rules for how you should treat slaves. All the big Islamic empires kept and traded slaves well into the late 1800s. Not just from Africa, but also Turks, Slavs, Hindus and many others. Most of the slaves from Africa that Europeans started keeping after the 1500s were bought from African Muslim slave traders.
Originally by: Hannobaal Being prejudiced is bad.
Irony police! Arrest this man!
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Admiral Pieg
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nefertria Amarriantis Im not saying any of the people I am going to mention are actual space powers - so lay of the childish comments - I am merely making a cultural comparison from how I see the game. To me the four major races are based on four stages of human civilisations development.
The Minmatar are seemingly based on ancient hunter/gather and pastoral societies such as the Celts, the Picts and the various Native American nations. Based around tribal modes of existence their slavery and subsequent escape from it very in line with a common theme found in a lot of the ancient tribal cultures of our own - oppression from those who deem themselves "more civilised" - symbolised in game by the Amarr.
The Amarr are based on the Roman Empire - ruled by an emperor, steeped in religion, the element of monotheism found in the Amarrian state simply reflects Rome's later shift to Christianity under the rule of Emperor Constantine. Their military application a more complex reflection of Roman military styles, I find the similarities more than enough to make a comparison.
Jumping ahead in history we reach the Caldari, conducive with the totalitarian life of the industrial age - the uniform often seen on various Caldari avatars I feel very much symbolizes the age, with many smatterings of World War II. Regimented, unwavering - the controlling state,all indicative of wartime Germany and cold war Russia.
Lastly we have the Gallente, symbolic very much of the here and now - the pursuit of the senses, the pusuit of pleasure, modernized, technologically advanced and prone to excess - is it no surprise how many players choose Gallente. The various fictional accounts we have of the Gallente very much point to a lifestyle we can all relate to, places not too dissimilar to where we live (admittedly to visit the Crystal Boulevard woiuld be rather good!)
Well - theres my view on the races - I am not saying they are conclusive or correct to anyone else but it is how I view them.
Nefertria
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Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.28 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum Edited by: VanNostrum on 28/04/2007 11:58:39
Originally by: Hannobaal Sorry to have to say it, but you sir are an idiot.
you're american aren't you? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) Jealous aren't you. Bet you wish you were here too! Yes, I am an ALT in a NOOB Corp.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.28 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 28/04/2007 10:37:11
Originally by: SiJira i am still lost how people think caldari is russia ? they arent capitalist at all
Well, the Caldari aren't capitalists in the true sense of Laissez-Faire free market capitalism like the Gallente are. They're more 'State Capitalism', and Russia right now does fit that description.
good point
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RossP Zoyka
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Posted - 2007.04.28 13:38:00 -
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Amarr are American as hell
1.) slavery 2.) Religous orthodoxy (America may not be religious now but was descended from pilgrims!) 3.) "technologicaly advanced" 4.) Imperialistic (if you don't see America as agressively culturally expansive you are blind)
Only knock I can think of is that they are not capitalist.
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VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Robinete Broadhead
Originally by: VanNostrum Edited by: VanNostrum on 28/04/2007 11:58:39
Originally by: Hannobaal Sorry to have to say it, but you sir are an idiot.
you're american aren't you? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) Jealous aren't you. Bet you wish you were here too!
um..nope? how old are you anyway?
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Zzulu X
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Posted - 2007.04.28 13:52:00 -
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Caldari are the germans
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![Hannobaal Hannobaal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/839306330/portrait?size=64)
Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.28 14:26:00 -
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From a description of the Gallente on this site:
"The Gallenteans. Self-righteous, meddling, pompous and tiresome, or virile liberalists and defenders of the free world. Love them or hate them, you simply can't ignore them. Everybody has an opinion on the Gallente Federation, it all depends from which side of the table you view them. For many, it is the Promised Land, where any dream can become a reality."
How can that fit into any country in existence today except the US?
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Incognus
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.28 15:10:00 -
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I'm locking this here before it gets even more out of hand.
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