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Drezzster	Posted - 2007.04.28 08:32:00 - [1] I tried asking this in the ships/modules section but got no replies, so I thought I'd ask here instead. I know the harpy isn't the best PvP AF/ship out there but I find it very fun to fly so I am going to continue doing so untill I have some more gallente skills and I move up to a thorax. So yesterday I lost my Harpy to a rupture, I was using: HI: 4 x neutron II's, arby rocket launcher MED: scram, web, small SBII, ABII LOW: 2x mag stab II's He webbed me at 10k so I was stuck out of optimal going at 60m/s being eaten by his drones, once I did get close to optimal near the end of the fight he started going down very quickly, but just not fast enough. =/ So could anyone suggest an improved setup? I am thinking if I had a MWD I could have got into optimal sooner and also would have taken less damage but MWDs eat cap, increase sig radius and are hard to fit. Also if I had a better tank I would have lasted longer and thus might have been able to take him down. Or even if I used longer ranged ammo that would have helped too. What do you think? Thanks. P.S(I'd prefer to keep the web because it is very handy when I run into frigs/other AF's)
Mjojjnir Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.04.28 08:49:00 - [2] I used to run: Highs: 4 neutron T2 1 whatever fits Mids T2 med sheild extender T2 AB scram web Lows T2 MFS MAPC the extender gives u the same peak recharge a T2 small shield booster does, whoever it doesn't eat cap.
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.04.28 08:59:00 - [3] drop the web tbh and fit an EM hard --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends. Sig nerfz0r - maximum allowed siz0r is 24000 bytz0r. - Devil ([email protected]) Sig By Ortos
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.28 10:48:00 - [4] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 28/04/2007 10:45:12 2x Ions T2, 2x Electrons t2, 1x small nos T2 med shield extender, mwd, webb + scram MAPC + MFS II Just avoid EMP dealing boats like the plague. Even webbed with this setup, inertia - caldari ships are fat, should carry you within optimal very easy. PS: If you feel comfortable with losing the webb, do as Benglada said. Harpy's range bonuses are good enough to compensate. -------------------------------------------------- http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swfAlways look on the bright side
Kahor Minmatar Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.28 11:00:00 - [5] I am not a harpy specialist, but your best chance against cruisers is to be faster than them, and keep at range between 12km and 18km. Otherwise, any decent cruiser pilot will wtfbbq any assault frigates. ---------------- An eye for an eye make a whole world blind. snip, do not evade the word filter with your sig. Email [email protected] for more information. -HornFrog
Marquis Dean Energy. Insurgency	Posted - 2007.04.28 11:04:00 - [6] Originally by: Kahor I am not a harpy specialist, but your best chance against cruisers is to be faster than them, and keep at range between 12km and 18km. Otherwise, any decent cruiser pilot will wtfbbq any assault frigates. I second this. Use Null and shoot from 11-14km so you don't get webbed. And if he sends drones out at you, kill them first. Don't engage Domis. --- Originally by: Tista i dont like you much but i'm going to agree with you on that.
Johnny Gurkha Villains	Posted - 2007.04.28 11:11:00 - [7] Assault frigates are a my cruisers best friend, my 6 million el cheapo Vexor setup obliterated a juicy T2 fitted Hawk worth about 40-50 million in less than 30 seconds... if your going to pirate in such an expensive setup prepare for some hefty losses
Crescens Caldari Dark Tornado Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.28 11:48:00 - [8] The above advice about staying out of web range is very important. A decently fit pvp-cruiser will melt you let it web you (and often even if it doesn't), no matter how great you think your resistances are. To this end, fitting a MWD might be a good idea to allow you to dictate range against cruisers with their own MWDs (pretty common). Other than that, picking your targets is the most important thing. Your best fodder will be PVE-fitted BCs and similar: tank the damage type they will most likely be doing (that means fitting an EM hardner in amarr/minmatar low-sec) and if you go in close, pray that they don't have nos or webs. Depending on your missile/gunnery skills you might consider upgrading to a rax/assault missile caracal - less fun but with an MWD these will outtank, outdamage, and outpace most AFs.
Radcjk Caldari Team Machine Incorporated	Posted - 2007.04.28 13:11:00 - [9] Edited by: Radcjk on 28/04/2007 13:08:21 I'm a fan 125mm II railguns. It doesn't have the same punch a blaster has but with Frigate 5 and AF 4, you get an optimal range of 13 KM with anti matter. Just dont let a cruiser MWD ram you and tackle (ie, all above advice is still good)
Drezzster	Posted - 2007.04.28 15:18:00 - [10] Thanks for all the good advice! Believe it or not my whole setup costs under 18mill, I am not too far from jita so I just head over there and get everything for a good price. I worked out that it would actually be more expencive for me to get a T2 rax. Originally by: Crescens less fun but with an MWD these will outtank, outdamage, and outpace most AFs. This is the problem, I have used cruisers for pvp quite often before now but to start of my pirate career I wanted something new, fun and preferably small. I have got very good caldari cruiser skills but caldari cruisers are generally crap for solo pvp, I have had success in a caracal and even a moa before now but caracals seem to be so common recently that everyone is fitted to fight them. (I also hate the kin missile bonus) I like getting up close and personal doing as much damage as possible, I found an incursus of all ships great for this (I took down a T2 fitted stabber in it, experienced pilot too ) But I figured I'd try a harpy because it looks cooler, hits harder and has better defences. But then it is also slow... which appears to be a bigger disadvantage than I thought. I could try going for a rax, I've never flown one before but they definitely look fun and seem to suit my play style. The only problem is my skills would not be great, I only have gallente cruiser lvl3 and hull upgrades lvl4 so I can't use TII hardeners. Although I do have T2 drones. Do you think that is much of a problem? (obviously I would train gallente cruiser to lvl 4 asap but it would still take a few days) Thanks again!
Crescens Caldari Dark Tornado Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.28 16:11:00 - [11] I'd say stick with the harpy for the moment. Once you know its limitations, and it certainly has a few, it can be quite a fun, effective little ship to fly. Skill wise, you seem to be following almost exactly the same path as I did, starting with Caldari and then going Gallente. I still love the Caracal, but for solo low-sec work I'm really starting to warm to Gallente. A Vexor might be a nice ship to complement the Harpy in the short term. It's more forgiving than the Thorax and pretty nippy with an MWD. Depending on the situation, it can be fit for a solid tank or some very nice DPS, and is well suited to low-sec piracy.
sgt spike Sicarri Covenant Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.28 18:37:00 - [12] Edited by: sgt spike on 28/04/2007 18:36:57 Edited by: sgt spike on 28/04/2007 18:35:32 lately i have been mostly using 2x t2 ions, 2x t2 neuts, 1x some bloody rocket launcher thingie mwd, 20k scram, webber, medium shield extender ( best named i can find) mapc, pdu its not the best setup ever and id still be wary of a rupture if it looked to be an experienced pilot but this week i have mostly been eating caracals oh and btw even using null i cant hit outside web range since they nerfed it and my gunnery skills are mostly 5 so it aint nubness if u wanna stay outta web range fit rails and really even though my missile skills are poo i find that drones die quick to rockets can you put a price on peace? Join Sicarri
Lucifer Fellblade Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.04.28 23:25:00 - [13] You won't beat a well fit (or even semi well fit) cruiser in an AF if you; A: Go into web range B: Go into nos range C: Go slower than your target So fit to do that. ------
Leikeze Mrotserif coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.29 02:33:00 - [14] armor tanked blasterharpy > all other harpy setups. Dollar says you flame it and havnt even tried it.
Drezzster	Posted - 2007.04.29 03:44:00 - [15] And I say hows about you give us an exemplar setup? It must be a pretty tight fit, do you use a Small rep and EANM (or whatever the hell they are called)
Doctor Dre	Posted - 2007.04.29 05:53:00 - [16] Originally by: Drezzster Thanks for all the good advice! Believe it or not my whole setup costs under 18mill, I am not too far from jita so I just head over there and get everything for a good price. I worked out that it would actually be more expencive for me to get a T2 rax. Originally by: Crescens less fun but with an MWD these will outtank, outdamage, and outpace most AFs. This is the problem, I have used cruisers for pvp quite often before now but to start of my pirate career I wanted something new, fun and preferably small. I have got very good caldari cruiser skills but caldari cruisers are generally crap for solo pvp, I have had success in a caracal and even a moa before now but caracals seem to be so common recently that everyone is fitted to fight them. (I also hate the kin missile bonus) I like getting up close and personal doing as much damage as possible, I found an incursus of all ships great for this (I took down a T2 fitted stabber in it, experienced pilot too ) But I figured I'd try a harpy because it looks cooler, hits harder and has better defences. But then it is also slow... which appears to be a bigger disadvantage than I thought. I could try going for a rax, I've never flown one before but they definitely look fun and seem to suit my play style. The only problem is my skills would not be great, I only have gallente cruiser lvl3 and hull upgrades lvl4 so I can't use TII hardeners. Although I do have T2 drones. Do you think that is much of a problem? (obviously I would train gallente cruiser to lvl 4 asap but it would still take a few days) Thanks again! PVP in a moa and a caracal? Are you training missiles or guns? My main (OMG im an alt poster!) was having troubles with the same problem, so I went gunnery. The thing ive noticed is using blasters on almost anything smaller than battlecruiser will probably get you killed, I offer you advice to stick to ranged gear on the smaller class ships if you decide to use guns.
Feterous Jolin Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.29 06:54:00 - [17] This has been a decent setup for myself... highs: 4x 125mm II, 1x Arby Standard Launcher Mids: 1x Warp Disruptor II, 1x Gistii A-Type Small SB, 1x Sensor Booster II, 1x Catalzed Cold Gas Arcject Thruster Lows: 2x Magstab II Rigs: 1x Capacitor Control Circuit I, 1x Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
sunshine bear North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.29 14:51:00 - [18] If you don't mind spending a bit of isk on the thing, i'd firstly suggest two EM resist rigs. That plugs the resist hole nicely, bringing EM resist up to 50%. Then you can go for neutrons, or a mix of neutron/ion if fitting is a problem. A gist or pithi booster is the next big upgrade you can get, and trust me when I saw they're insane. So my rough kinda fit for a harpy would be: 4 neutron/ion Named mwd, 20k, micro inject, pith/gist booster 2MFS or 1 MFS, 1 PDU And 2 EM rigs. That will allow perma running of guns, point and booster, leaving you with a rock solid tank and respectable DPS. Although for taking on cruisers and above, i'd rather go for an agile 125 rail/MWD fit. Web range=nos, and while that above fit has an injected tank, a decent cruiser will pose problems once it has a nos or two on you and you're webbed.
Sojiuro	Posted - 2007.04.29 17:20:00 - [19] Drezzter this is the best soloing harpy setup. 4x 150mm rails t2, afterburner, web, scram, f-90 mag stab 2, and damage control load antimatter optimal should be around 18km and blast away. pop drones first. keep spike and javelin on u. web if they get close and pull away.
Requiescat	Posted - 2007.04.29 18:52:00 - [20] 1x Hawk --=-- I turned off "show corp/alliance" because, to be frank, I'm ashamed of them. They'll be turned back on when I'm somewhere more suitable for someone of my talents.
Maeltstome Minmatar Caldari Navy Raiders	Posted - 2007.04.30 00:32:00 - [21] Originally by: Requiescat 1x Hawk Negative, harpy is better for PVP imo. 4x 125rail, up2u T2 disruptor, tracking computer, passive em hard, shield booster T2 tracking enhancer, fitting/magstab. Even interceptors wont be able to out run your tracking if you use lead.

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