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Gadzooki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.03.07 20:04:37 -
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Curious what will be the new paradigm once carriers get borked? Any guesses? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47231
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Posted - 2017.03.07 20:12:19 -
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Carriers still, maybe at slightly reduced profit. That would be my guess.
Aside from that, Rattlesnakes and VNIs are still popular even with Carriers being used a lot. Ishtars are still around, but not as much as pre-nerf. I still see Gilas quite a bit too, though also, not quite as much as pre-nerf. |
Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra
83
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Posted - 2017.03.07 20:15:20 -
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With all the wormholers trying to turn NS into wh space, we will probably be in sieged dreds |
Lady Ayeipsia
Perkone Caldari State
1336
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Posted - 2017.03.07 20:18:51 -
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Um... So NPC may target fighters a little more and fighters have a sig radius of heavy drones instead of medium ones...
Yeah People will be ratting in carriers. This is not a big enough shift to change that. It's not like fighters will have a sig radius of a BS or are the only things NPCs will target. Seems like stressing over nothing. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5930
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Posted - 2017.03.07 20:29:51 -
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Afktar? Rattledrone?
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
10534
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Posted - 2017.03.07 20:33:13 -
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Since most people don't rat in carriers, most people will be ratting in whatever they are ratting in now.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
503
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Posted - 2017.03.07 20:42:12 -
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some people really cant get beyond cap ratting, they just wont let it go. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji.
2073
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Posted - 2017.03.07 23:25:22 -
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I will be ratting in nullsec. Not what you were asking, is it? |
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
1238
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Posted - 2017.03.07 23:37:16 -
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Post changes, I will be ratting in subcaps in WH space. Same as I do now.
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
156
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Posted - 2017.03.08 00:45:21 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Carriers still, maybe at slightly reduced profit. That would be my guess.
Aside from that, Rattlesnakes and VNIs are still popular even with Carriers being used a lot. Ishtars are still around, but not as much as pre-nerf. I still see Gilas quite a bit too, though also, not quite as much as pre-nerf. Idk man the sig radius will make it near impossible to rat in carriers. LOTS of dead fighters. Not worth it. |
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Annabelle Le
State Protectorate Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2017.03.08 03:04:58 -
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Ptraci wrote:I will be ratting in nullsec. Not what you were asking, is it?
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Lugh Crow-Slave
3882
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Posted - 2017.03.08 05:28:08 -
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Gadzooki wrote:Curious what will be the new paradigm once carriers get borked? Any guesses?
considering the experience myself and manny others have had who actually went and tested this rather than having a melt down; people will be using carriers..... they still work.... just fine.... only place they have an issue is some high end WH sites
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hmu-smh
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2017.03.08 10:46:33 -
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Mom: What are you doing John? You: I'm ratting. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out
3993
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Posted - 2017.03.08 12:32:19 -
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Alliance Logo Design Service
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Thomas Lot
Astrocomical Warped Intentions
118
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Posted - 2017.03.08 12:44:37 -
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I've got fully researched Templar BPOs and mineral prices are cheap as crap. So what if a few fighters get popped. I've got close to 1000 waiting in station.
PvE is not that much of a change. A bit more recall and refueling, yawn. So I go from 35-40 Mil / tick to 30-35 Mil / tick.
PvP, on the other hand, is where we will see the effect of the increased sig radius. |
Taishoku Mayaki
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
8078
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Posted - 2017.03.08 13:22:32 -
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My Carrier just sits in an Ore Anom and pops rats for my mining fleet.
... It will continue to do the same thing.
"Right-O, lets get undocked and see what falls off the ship"
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Keno Skir
1349
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Posted - 2017.03.08 13:50:08 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Carriers still, maybe at slightly reduced profit. That would be my guess.
Aside from that, Rattlesnakes and VNIs are still popular even with Carriers being used a lot. Ishtars are still around, but not as much as pre-nerf. I still see Gilas quite a bit too, though also, not quite as much as pre-nerf. Idk man the sig radius will make it near impossible to rat in carriers. LOTS of dead fighters. Not worth it.
Nah not really dude you just have to keep them moving (read : you have to be good at carrier ratting instead of semi AFK) and not allow them to stop between targets. Have tested this on SiSi and have noticed only marginally more damage from rats as long as drones are never still
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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2017.03.08 15:18:29 -
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Rorqual ratting with industrial mode on is my guess |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
156
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Posted - 2017.03.08 18:17:40 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Carriers still, maybe at slightly reduced profit. That would be my guess.
Aside from that, Rattlesnakes and VNIs are still popular even with Carriers being used a lot. Ishtars are still around, but not as much as pre-nerf. I still see Gilas quite a bit too, though also, not quite as much as pre-nerf. Idk man the sig radius will make it near impossible to rat in carriers. LOTS of dead fighters. Not worth it. Nah not really dude you just have to keep them moving (read : you have to be good at carrier ratting instead of semi AFK) and not allow them to stop between targets. Have tested this on SiSi and have noticed only marginally more damage from rats as long as drones are never still That's hard even if you are paying attention, Fighters don't attack on their own anymore, not sure how one semi afk uses them.
The spool down time on the main attacks are the problem. If a target dies mid cycle the fighters just stop until you can respool. These changes wouldn't be as bad if CCP fixed that nonsense. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
15296
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Posted - 2017.03.08 18:27:19 -
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It's amazing to me how everything is so hard for some people. In this case, adapting to a change in a thing that is only a few months old (modern carrier ratting) is imipossioble.
Fortunately, not everyone is so pitiful. |
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1759
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Posted - 2017.03.08 18:41:29 -
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If I'll rat at all it will be in something PVP fitted. Never really liked minmaxing income at the expense of readyness and loss-capacity.
Cynabal probably. |
ApexDynamo
Hazardous Wormhole Rebels
10
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Posted - 2017.03.14 20:14:44 -
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i like my FoF raven navy its a semi afk ship for a wh :) |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3192
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Posted - 2017.03.14 20:26:50 -
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I shot some blood raider skiff last night in my Oracle. I will no longer rat in that Oracle because I didn't think I should warp out when the Skiff I was shooting started warping away. Maybe I'll build another Oracle tho. It's active but your drones never die. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
6070
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Posted - 2017.03.14 21:06:45 -
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A Rorqual. Too soon?
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2653
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Posted - 2017.03.14 21:11:01 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:some people really cant get beyond cap ratting, they just wont let it go. considering if you aren't carrier ratting you would be making more money in highsec... plus having caps out and about is good for content creation.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
6070
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Posted - 2017.03.14 21:14:58 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:considering if you aren't carrier ratting you would be making more money in highsec... plus having caps out and about is good for content creation. Queue request to nerf high-sec income in 3... 2... 1...
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ApexDynamo
Hazardous Wormhole Rebels
11
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Posted - 2017.03.14 21:27:00 -
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alternate source of income makeing P4's in a wh 400m a week per toon with 6 planets op success :) |
Cade Windstalker
1093
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Posted - 2017.03.14 21:42:30 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Carriers still, maybe at slightly reduced profit. That would be my guess.
Aside from that, Rattlesnakes and VNIs are still popular even with Carriers being used a lot. Ishtars are still around, but not as much as pre-nerf. I still see Gilas quite a bit too, though also, not quite as much as pre-nerf. Idk man the sig radius will make it near impossible to rat in carriers. LOTS of dead fighters. Not worth it.
You can still rat in a Carrier without losing Fighters, it just takes more attention. A slight change in fitting helps too. Example by suitonia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXxGlPBrWCA |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
156
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Posted - 2017.03.14 22:11:00 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Carriers still, maybe at slightly reduced profit. That would be my guess.
Aside from that, Rattlesnakes and VNIs are still popular even with Carriers being used a lot. Ishtars are still around, but not as much as pre-nerf. I still see Gilas quite a bit too, though also, not quite as much as pre-nerf. Idk man the sig radius will make it near impossible to rat in carriers. LOTS of dead fighters. Not worth it. You can still rat in a Carrier without losing Fighters, it just takes more attention. A slight change in fitting helps too. Example by suitonia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXxGlPBrWCA More attention? I already play it like I'm in a PVP dogfight. There is no more attention to give. A lot of the time they get nearly alphad. By the time they return they are dead. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
6073
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Posted - 2017.03.14 22:20:05 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:More attention? I already play it like I'm in a PVP dogfight. There is no more attention to give. A lot of the time they get nearly alphad. By the time they return they are dead. I thought you null-sec players loved a challenge? (just ribbing you - I don't run carriers and even I don't like the changes)
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