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Tsutola Kostanaiken
Caldari Independent Contractor
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Posted - 2017.03.10 02:39:19 -
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I am going to be honest with you. I could go Navy Scorpion, but I want to fit a Navy Megathron because it's sexy. A shallow reason, I know. But, the Navy Megathron fitting is a whole new experience for me.... very different from the Caladari stuff I'm used to.
Please help. I know there's a thread on Navy Megathron fits, but it's from a dude who insisted on an improved shield fit. I come with no demands. How do I fit this thing properly for level 4 missions? |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5973
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Posted - 2017.03.10 03:57:21 -
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I would opt for a Deadspace Core X-Type large armor repairer, ditch the damage control for a reactive armor hardener and go with a capacitor power relay instead of the explosive membrane. The reactive armor hardener compensates for the explosive hole on those missions where it's needed (you'll shield tank a lot of explosive damage). You should not need more than 4 tank modules total.
In the mids go for a Faction or Deadspace MWD for less cap penalty and at least two range-scripted tracking computers. For the fourth mid slot either a large cap battery or resolution-scripted sensor booster. A T2 auto targeting system will give you a passive +3 target bonus.
Scrap all the rigs. The T1 aerator rig is only giving you +2-3% DPS and you can get that with a single Faction magnetic field stabilizer instead. I'd go for a T2 falloff, T2 optimal and T1 tracking rig setup instead (this will give you another 20% overall range and 15% more tracking speed). You have more than enough tank that you shouldn't be concerned about cap stability, and you should get around 10 minutes from the Deadspace armor repairer (which you can also easily overheat). If cap stability is a concern drop the large cap battery and run a cap booster with Navy 800 cap boosters.
Drones are personal preference but since you can't repair yourself I'd ditch the maintenance drones and go with 5x T2 Wardens, 5x T2 Hobgoblins and 5x salvage drones. If you plan to snipe a lot you can drop the T2 auto targeting system for a T2 drone link augmentor instead. You can also drop the T2 capacitor power relay for a T2 drone damage amplifier, too. .....
I run a Machariel, btw - but utilize everything in the first 3 paragraphs with my fit.
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18744
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Posted - 2017.03.10 11:31:25 -
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[Megathron Navy Issue, [TG] TAIO]
Corpus C-Type Large Armor Repairer True Sansha Armor Thermal Hardener True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener Reactive Armor Hardener Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II
Large Micro Jump Drive 500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Tracking Computer II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L Small Tractor Beam II
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Warden II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Javelin L x14244 Spike L x500 Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L x3636 Optimal Range Script x1 Tracking Speed Script x1
Not cap stable so don't try. Burst tank setup with MWD for getting around faster, MJD for covering long distances and for getting range if needed. Med cap booster for the burst tank and a tractor beam for again saving time when scooping the mission objective.
It has 4 minutes with the guns shooting, this should be enough time to work (the good fits generally have around 4-5 min cap) and the sentries add to your firepower more than normal drones seeing as you are going for long range, just don't forget them when you mjd. The bling is amazingly cheap, rigs are there to bolster your repping power and make everything fit.
Tank wise you swap out the two hardeners depending on the mission rats you are facing so you can max your tank for the mission at hand. Try not to fill your cargo with cap boosters as you need that space for the mission item, always bring 2x flights of light drones just in case but your MJD will get you out of trouble (rats do not scram) |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5980
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Posted - 2017.03.10 13:01:22 -
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baltec1, don't you think that fit is a tad overtanked? A pair of T2 or Faction EANMs is probably more than enough for the vast majority of L4 missions without needing to have two active modules that need to be swapped out. You're devoting 5 low and 2 rig slots to tank. Also, with rails is the LMJD really needed? (along with the overclocking rig) You've only got a single tracking computer and nothing else to improve range or damage application.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3179
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Posted - 2017.03.10 15:10:57 -
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baltec1 wrote:[Megathron Navy Issue, [TG] TAIO]
Corpus C-Type Large Armor Repairer True Sansha Armor Thermal Hardener True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener Reactive Armor Hardener Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II
Large Micro Jump Drive 500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Tracking Computer II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L Small Tractor Beam II
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Warden II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Javelin L x14244 Spike L x500 Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L x3636 Optimal Range Script x1 Tracking Speed Script x1
Not cap stable so don't try. Burst tank setup with MWD for getting around faster, MJD for covering long distances and for getting range if needed. Med cap booster for the burst tank and a tractor beam for again saving time when scooping the mission objective.
It has 4 minutes with the guns shooting, this should be enough time to work (the good fits generally have around 4-5 min cap) and the sentries add to your firepower more than normal drones seeing as you are going for long range, just don't forget them when you mjd. The bling is amazingly cheap, rigs are there to bolster your repping power and make everything fit.
Tank wise you swap out the two hardeners depending on the mission rats you are facing so you can max your tank for the mission at hand. Try not to fill your cargo with cap boosters as you need that space for the mission item, always bring 2x flights of light drones just in case but your MJD will get you out of trouble (rats do not scram)
Why not go with a vindi since the base hull price is lower? |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5981
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Posted - 2017.03.10 15:15:58 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Why not go with a vindi since the base hull price is lower? Not a bad idea, actually.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3179
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Posted - 2017.03.10 15:25:09 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Why not go with a vindi since the base hull price is lower? Not a bad idea, actually.
Let there be badly though out fits!!!
[Vindicator, Vindicator fit]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Corpii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Corpus C-Type Large Armor Repairer Reactive Armor Hardener
Tracking Computer II Core A-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive Large Micro Jump Drive Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Not sure how the lower burst tank compare to more sustained so I will let people who know better answer this. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5981
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Posted - 2017.03.10 15:40:40 -
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Except ditch the LMJD. With a MWD and rails you don't need to be jumping around. Also frees up the overclocking rigs...
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5981
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Posted - 2017.03.10 15:42:47 -
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Sorry, double post.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3181
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Posted - 2017.03.10 19:48:37 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Except ditch the LMJD. With a MWD and rails you don't need to be jumping around. Also frees up the overclocking rigs...
Have to fiddle more with it. A single CPU rig without the LMJD leaves you with only 19.41 CPU and a mid open. |
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5992
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Posted - 2017.03.10 20:45:52 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Have to fiddle more with it. A single CPU rig without the LMJD leaves you with only 19.41 CPU and a mid open. Run a Faction mag stab or two. I guess a Genolution set or CPU implant might also work. I personally like the idea of just running the Vindicator...
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Tsutola Kostanaiken
Caldari Independent Contractor
6
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Posted - 2017.03.11 15:40:16 -
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So... keeping in mind I need some level 5 in some key areas (I've got my EVE Mon plan and I'm working on it), here is what is currently working for me. I'm handling L4 missions fairly well and it will improve as my skills do. Of course, if you have further suggestions and recommends, please let me know. The fit suggests y'all gave were extremely helpful.
[Megathron Navy Issue, The Gotse Delchev] Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Prototype Armor Thermal Hardener I Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
100MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Medium Capacitor Booster II Optical Compact Tracking Computer
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x10 Hammerhead II x5
Cap Booster 800 x20 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L x1096 Optimal Range Script x1 |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
6027
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Posted - 2017.03.12 18:41:16 -
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Two more range-scripted tracking computers with tracking speed scripts as a backup.
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Tam Arai
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2017.03.12 18:45:56 -
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navy mega with a t1 tank and t1 guns? crikey |
Timmy Vortex
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
18
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Posted - 2017.03.12 20:21:16 -
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Tsutola Kostanaiken wrote:So... keeping in mind I need some level 5 in some key areas (I've got my EVE Mon plan and I'm working on it), here is what is currently working for me. I'm handling L4 missions fairly well and it will improve as my skills do. Of course, if you have further suggestions and recommends, please let me know. The fit suggests y'all gave were extremely helpful.
[Megathron Navy Issue, The Gotse Delchev] Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Prototype Armor Thermal Hardener I Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
100MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Medium Capacitor Booster II Optical Compact Tracking Computer
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x10 Hammerhead II x5
Cap Booster 800 x20 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L x1096 Optimal Range Script x1
Go for it. Just make sure you remove the camo and paint it pink :) |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2645
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Posted - 2017.03.12 21:59:46 -
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your revised fit looks alright, I'd probably swap the drone link augmentor for a tractor beam. I don't like letting drones get that far out, I only recommend DLAs for sentries as they can hit past 60km. Also not sold on the rigs, but don't have a great suggestion otherwise.
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Have to fiddle more with it. A single CPU rig without the LMJD leaves you with only 19.41 CPU and a mid open. Run a Faction mag stab or two. I guess a Genolution set or CPU implant might also work. I personally like the idea of just running the Vindicator... I really like the vindi, it is just very constrained on CPU, although I think I made this fit before the CPU rigs were a thing. my in game fit also had a t2 rof rig and a t1 lock range rig, as the vindi used to have absurdly short lock range. Since all the bling is needed for cpu purposes swapping to a cpu rig would probably free up enough to make it far cheaper.
[Vindicator, PVE - Rails] Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane IFFA Compact Damage Control Shadow Serpentis Large Armor Repairer
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Optical Compact Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution Script
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Hobgoblin II x5 Warden II x4
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Tsutola Kostanaiken
Caldari Independent Contractor
9
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Posted - 2017.03.13 04:21:42 -
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Timmy Vortex wrote:Go for it. Just make sure you remove the camo and paint it pink :)
Like your wardrobe on a Saturday night?
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
3097
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Posted - 2017.03.13 16:54:15 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Why not go with a vindi since the base hull price is lower? [Runs over to EvE-Central to do a price check]
Holy hell, when did this happen?!?!?
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2647
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Posted - 2017.03.13 17:31:31 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Why not go with a vindi since the base hull price is lower? [Runs over to EvE-Central to do a price check] Holy hell, when did this happen?!?!? pirate ship bpcs drop from commander spawns and in escalations so there is a large supply of pirate battleship bpcs, prices have been steadily dropping for a while now. Navy ships pretty much only come from LP stores, and there is usually better stuff to buy
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18756
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Posted - 2017.03.14 09:55:54 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:baltec1, don't you think that fit is a tad overtanked? A pair of T2 or Faction EANMs is probably more than enough for the vast majority of L4 missions without needing to have two active modules that need to be swapped out. You're devoting 5 low and 2 rig slots to tank. Also, with rails is the LMJD really needed? (along with the overclocking rig) You've only got a single tracking computer and nothing else to improve range or damage application.
Best over tank it until you get used to it.
LMJD comes in very handy for those 60km hikes to the next warp gate plus gets you a get out of jail free card.
Damage application should be fine, shoot the small stuff first as it burns directly towards you |
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18758
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Posted - 2017.03.14 09:57:26 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
Why not go with a vindi since the base hull price is lower?
TBH I would still say go with the blitz mach, vindi is a better option than a navy mega but seeing as how OP has already bought the ship might as well use it |
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
247
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Posted - 2017.03.19 04:57:46 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Except ditch the LMJD. With a MWD and rails you don't need to be jumping around.
Aren't rails why MJDs exist? MJD out to 100km, shoot everything as it flies straight at you, MJD back to the gate and hit the next room. Maybe I'm just too used to the Kronos and shooting antimatter at 100km range. |
baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18766
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Posted - 2017.03.25 10:22:52 -
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Merin Ryskin wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Except ditch the LMJD. With a MWD and rails you don't need to be jumping around. Aren't rails why MJDs exist? MJD out to 100km, shoot everything as it flies straight at you, MJD back to the gate and hit the next room. Maybe I'm just too used to the Kronos and shooting antimatter at 100km range.
Its also very handy for blitzing those 90km distances between gates. |
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