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JoDirt
Minmatar
House of Geezer
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:08:00 -
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Not even close lol check this out.
They are making $55 million in profit, every 24 hours. And so, Microsoft will make more profit in 10 hours than Red Hat will in a quarter!
And, it will take MS...
4 days to exceed Research In Motion's quarterly net income of $187.9 million.
4 days to exceed Starbucks' quarterly net income of $205 million.
1 week to exceed Nike's quarterly net income of $350.8 million.
2 weeks to exceed McDonalds' quarterly net income of $762 million.
2 weeks to exceed Apple's quarterly net income of $770 million.
18 days to exceed Google's quarterly net income of $1 billion.
23 days to exceed Coca-Cola's quarterly net income of $1.26 billion.
5 weeks to exceed IBM's quarterly net income of $1.85 billion.
10 weeks to exceed Wal-Mart's quarterly net income of $3.9 billion.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 17:11:35
And Exxon makes three times as much as Microsoft.
Who cares?
Microsoft is a very large corporation with dozens of divisions, each larger than many of the companies you've compared them to. Its like saying "hah, GM sells more cars than Toyota sells Priuses!"
The comparison is completely invalid.
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 17:11:35
And Exxon makes three times as much as Microsoft.
Who cares?
Microsoft is a very large corporation with dozens of divisions, each larger than many of the companies you've compared them to. Its like saying "hah, GM sells more cars than Toyota sells Priuses!"
The comparison is completely invalid.
But Priuses suck...
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JoDirt
Minmatar
House of Geezer
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 17:11:35
And Exxon makes three times as much as Microsoft.
Who cares?
Microsoft is a very large corporation with dozens of divisions, each larger than many of the companies you've compared them to. Its like saying "hah, GM sells more cars than Toyota sells Priuses!"
The comparison is completely invalid.
Hmm I guess the auther of the article I am reading at Yahoo cares, guess I care because I thought it was interesting. Infact I thought it was so interesting that I would share on the off topic eve boards. That ok with you mr. grumpy on monday morning. |
Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: JoDirt
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 17:11:35
And Exxon makes three times as much as Microsoft.
Who cares?
Microsoft is a very large corporation with dozens of divisions, each larger than many of the companies you've compared them to. Its like saying "hah, GM sells more cars than Toyota sells Priuses!"
The comparison is completely invalid.
Hmm I guess the auther of the article I am reading at Yahoo cares, guess I care because I thought it was interesting. Infact I thought it was so interesting that I would share on the off topic eve boards. That ok with you mr. grumpy on monday morning.
Not surprising. The media make a huge business these days out of reporting the obvious.
"Breaking news: Big corporations make lots of money! In local news, water just happens to be wet. Stay tuned!"
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Vari
Carbide Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:34:00 -
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$55 million in profit every 24 hours? Well they may be doing well financially for now, but trust me, they're losing. Globalization I suspect is doing it's part.
Office is stagnant, not going up nor down. IE sucks, Vista sucks.
The only thing they're doing well is getting console exclusives for their Xbox machines. It sells the machines.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vari
$55 million in profit every 24 hours? Well they may be doing well financially for now, but trust me, they're losing. Globalization I suspect is doing it's part.
Office is stagnant, not going up nor down. IE sucks, Vista sucks.
The only thing they're doing well is getting console exclusives for their Xbox machines. It sells the machines.
The irony about that is that they're losing money on each Xbox 360 (last I heard); its one of their few clear loss leaders.
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JoDirt
Minmatar
House of Geezer
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vari
$55 million in profit every 24 hours? Well they may be doing well financially for now, but trust me, they're losing. Globalization I suspect is doing it's part.
Office is stagnant, not going up nor down. IE sucks, Vista sucks.
The only thing they're doing well is getting console exclusives for their Xbox machines. It sells the machines.
Actually Vista sales reported on the up swing. I think Vista will be slow to take hold. Was the same with 2000 and XP. I think as newer hardware is released we will see Vista and Office trickle in. Then when long horn server launches then the pace will pick up a bit. |
Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Vari
$55 million in profit every 24 hours? Well they may be doing well financially for now, but trust me, they're losing. Globalization I suspect is doing it's part.
Office is stagnant, not going up nor down. IE sucks, Vista sucks.
The only thing they're doing well is getting console exclusives for their Xbox machines. It sells the machines.
And infact while microsofts overall earnings have increased 65%, revenue from its entertainment and devices division (thats the xbox) have dropped.
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JoDirt
Minmatar
House of Geezer
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Vari
$55 million in profit every 24 hours? Well they may be doing well financially for now, but trust me, they're losing. Globalization I suspect is doing it's part.
Office is stagnant, not going up nor down. IE sucks, Vista sucks.
The only thing they're doing well is getting console exclusives for their Xbox machines. It sells the machines.
The irony about that is that they're losing money on each Xbox 360 (last I heard); its one of their few clear loss leaders.
Yeah the Wii is doing very well, kicking the xbox 360 in the ass actually. been thinking about picking one up for my kid, if they come out with a star wars light sabor game that will lock the deal. |
tiggertrevor
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Posted - 2007.04.30 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 17:11:35
And Exxon makes three times as much as Microsoft.
Who cares?
Microsoft is a very large corporation with dozens of divisions, each larger than many of the companies you've compared them to. Its like saying "hah, GM sells more cars than Toyota sells Priuses!"
The comparison is completely invalid.
bitter much? or just hate microsoft?
I care, as do many others. The world doesnt revolve around you, so dont be so ignorant.
Really impressive figures, and with such financial capabilities i'd love to know what their future plans are (and how far into the future those plans reach)
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JoDirt
Minmatar
House of Geezer
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Posted - 2007.04.30 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: tiggertrevor
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 17:11:35
And Exxon makes three times as much as Microsoft.
Who cares?
Microsoft is a very large corporation with dozens of divisions, each larger than many of the companies you've compared them to. Its like saying "hah, GM sells more cars than Toyota sells Priuses!"
The comparison is completely invalid.
bitter much? or just hate microsoft?
I care, as do many others. The world doesnt revolve around you, so dont be so ignorant.
Really impressive figures, and with such financial capabilities i'd love to know what their future plans are (and how far into the future those plans reach)
They seem to have a heavy interest in phones and TV. Exchange 2007 features includes a full on voice mail system with voice recognition that actually works. I'm using that right now, you can call you vm and listen to your email or change your calander with voice commands.
Also with fiber to the curve becoming a reality the xbox 360 will be more integrated into TV land via windows media center. I saw a demo in PCG that basically had a 360 running media center browsing channels while the guy was talking to someone over voip (through the head set) with a small video conf of the other party in the lower part of the screen. I thought that was really cool. And this wasn't streaming the TV through a computer with a cable input and media center, it was streaming from the MS site. I would imagine all kind of movies and on demand type media will be available.
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.30 18:20:00 -
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I have pretty much learned to ignore dark shikari in a thread that has anything to do with Microsoft, just like if i was someone else id know to ignore me in a conversation that involves ipods, they were genuinely interesting figures, and people do care DS.
It is very arrogant to assume that no one cares about something because you don't, and even more so to post in a thread about which you say you don't care, if you didn't care, you wouldn't say anything!
yes i love commas
Microsoft are alive and kicking despite what people would have you believe, my entire family has vista, so don't go telling me no one buys it either.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.30 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 18:23:22
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
I have pretty much learned to ignore dark shikari in a thread that has anything to do with Microsoft, just like if i was someone else id know to ignore me in a conversation that involves ipods, they were genuinely interesting figures, and people do care DS.
Well I thought it was safe to assume that people knew that Microsoft made lots of money.
Are people really ignorant enough to think they don't? They're a big company! If they weren't making a lot, they'd be in the news like GM or Ford.
I just feel such posts are restating the obvious. Nothing wrong with Microsoft in particular; if someone posted the same about Exxon, I'd be like "DUH, of course they're making tons of money, have you looked at the gas pump lately?"
On the topic of Vista, if you got your head out of the sand and looked at the rest of the world, you'd realize it was a complete failure outside of the United States. Microsoft's biggest enemy is globalization; it introduces competition to their monopoly. This isn't a surprise to anyone though; the vast majority of the countries in the world pirate Microsoft products. Very few countries actually gain them a profit.
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.04.30 18:35:00 -
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Hai guyz, wuts going on?
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tiggertrevor
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Posted - 2007.04.30 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: tiggertrevor on 30/04/2007 18:41:04
Simply, Microsoft is at the forefront of societys techlogical advancements, and thats why i find them more interesting than a gas company.
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JoDirt
Minmatar
House of Geezer
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Posted - 2007.04.30 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 18:23:22
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
I have pretty much learned to ignore dark shikari in a thread that has anything to do with Microsoft, just like if i was someone else id know to ignore me in a conversation that involves ipods, they were genuinely interesting figures, and people do care DS.
Well I thought it was safe to assume that people knew that Microsoft made lots of money.
Are people really ignorant enough to think they don't? They're a big company! If they weren't making a lot, they'd be in the news like GM or Ford.
I just feel such posts are restating the obvious. Nothing wrong with Microsoft in particular; if someone posted the same about Exxon, I'd be like "DUH, of course they're making tons of money, have you looked at the gas pump lately?"
On the topic of Vista, if you got your head out of the sand and looked at the rest of the world, you'd realize it was a complete failure outside of the United States. Microsoft's biggest enemy is globalization; it introduces competition to their monopoly. This isn't a surprise to anyone though; the vast majority of the countries in the world pirate Microsoft products. Very few countries actually gain them a profit.
I think people that condemn it to failure so quickly are the ones with their heads in the sand. Not very many businesses are going to roll vista until long horn server launches and the full potential is realized. It's really a whole package and right now we are just looking at one piece of the package (vista). The package consisting of Windows Server "Longhorn", Exchange 2007, Vista, Office 2007 and the new Sharepoint version. |
Frezik
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.30 19:12:00 -
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IBM is a big Linux supporter. While you might not think IBM has much influence anymore, they are actually extremely successful at marketing to anyone above the level of a small business. They admittedly suck at marketing to home users.
According to the most recent Fortune 500, IBM made about $91 billion in revenue last year. Microsoft made $44 billion. So by the same (flawed) logic as the OP, Microsoft is way behind Linux.
I don't think Microsoft will "die" in the sense of being completely wiped out. They'll die the same way IBM did--lose out to smaller, more forward-thinking companies under changing market conditions.
Microsoft already seems to have "died" in the sense that smaller companies no longer fear them. By the late '90s, Microsoft could make a few PR claims that they were going to enter a new market, and all the companies already in that market would scramble around like rats on fire, die, and then Microsoft would swoop in and pick up the pieces. Now when they try to do the same thing, the smaller companies just say "yeah, whatever" and continue on.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.30 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: JoDirt
Originally by: Vari
$55 million in profit every 24 hours? Well they may be doing well financially for now, but trust me, they're losing. Globalization I suspect is doing it's part.
Office is stagnant, not going up nor down. IE sucks, Vista sucks.
The only thing they're doing well is getting console exclusives for their Xbox machines. It sells the machines.
Actually Vista sales reported on the up swing. I think Vista will be slow to take hold. Was the same with 2000 and XP. I think as newer hardware is released we will see Vista and Office trickle in. Then when long horn server launches then the pace will pick up a bit.
The thing is, these figures are always difficult to interpret.
Firstly, DS has a very good point- its no surprise to anyone here that MS are stinking rich. Its obvious. They have a 90% share of the desktop computing market, and have fingers in every single electronic pie going. If anyone here is surprised that MS have a high income, they deserve that scene from Clockwork Orange (you know the one), only with CNN instead of snuff.
MS are, by all accounts (except their own) doing worse now than they have ever in recent years.
Take a look at Vista sales. They claim that Vista is selling somewhere in the region of 50% better than XP did on release. Bully for them. But if you pay attention to ALL the statistics, you realise the bigger picture. For example, in the last 6 years (since XP was released), the desktop computer market DOUBLED. That is to say, there are twice as manyh actively used desktop PCs now than there were when XP was released. Their sales SHOULD be 100% higher than 6 years ago, but they're not; they're 50% or so higher. This means they're doing 50% worse than they should be doing- they're doing half as well as they were with XP.
As already mentioned, their XBox is also making a loss. Their iPod competitor (Zune?) isn't doing aswell as you'd expect, either. And Windows Server is a positive failure compared to Linux (which holds some 80% of the server market share).
So, someone says their profits have gone up 60%. But who's to say if it should have gone up far far more in that time, due tot he rapidly expanding nature of the computing industry? Not me, thats for sure. Not anyone here. Its one of those elusively over-complicated matters that all but a trained economist would be talking out of their arse about.
All we CAN say is what the pie charts look like. Both Linux and Apple are (SLOWLY) getting a larger share of the desktop market. People are gradually moving away from IE. Apple is once again a house-hold name (thanks to iPod). Whichever way you look at it, the computing industry is a much different place than it was a decade ago.
And if Microsoft do "die", it certainly won't be immediately apparent. Any idea how long it'd take an oil tanker to drift to a halt after it's engine had blown up? 
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JoDirt
Minmatar
House of Geezer
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Posted - 2007.04.30 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: JoDirt on 30/04/2007 20:33:42
Edited by: JoDirt on 30/04/2007 20:30:58
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: JoDirt
Originally by: Vari
$55 million in profit every 24 hours? Well they may be doing well financially for now, but trust me, they're losing. Globalization I suspect is doing it's part.
Office is stagnant, not going up nor down. IE sucks, Vista sucks.
The only thing they're doing well is getting console exclusives for their Xbox machines. It sells the machines.
Actually Vista sales reported on the up swing. I think Vista will be slow to take hold. Was the same with 2000 and XP. I think as newer hardware is released we will see Vista and Office trickle in. Then when long horn server launches then the pace will pick up a bit.
The thing is, these figures are always difficult to interpret.
Firstly, DS has a very good point- its no surprise to anyone here that MS are stinking rich. Its obvious. They have a 90% share of the desktop computing market, and have fingers in every single electronic pie going. If anyone here is surprised that MS have a high income, they deserve that scene from Clockwork Orange (you know the one), only with CNN instead of snuff.
MS are, by all accounts (except their own) doing worse now than they have ever in recent years.
Take a look at Vista sales. They claim that Vista is selling somewhere in the region of 50% better than XP did on release. Bully for them. But if you pay attention to ALL the statistics, you realise the bigger picture. For example, in the last 6 years (since XP was released), the desktop computer market DOUBLED. That is to say, there are twice as manyh actively used desktop PCs now than there were when XP was released. Their sales SHOULD be 100% higher than 6 years ago, but they're not; they're 50% or so higher. This means they're doing 50% worse than they should be doing- they're doing half as well as they were with XP.
As already mentioned, their XBox is also making a loss. Their iPod competitor (Zune?) isn't doing aswell as you'd expect, either. And Windows Server is a positive failure compared to Linux (which holds some 80% of the server market share).
So, someone says their profits have gone up 60%. But who's to say if it should have gone up far far more in that time, due tot he rapidly expanding nature of the computing industry? Not me, thats for sure. Not anyone here. Its one of those elusively over-complicated matters that all but a trained economist would be talking out of their arse about.
All we CAN say is what the pie charts look like. Both Linux and Apple are (SLOWLY) getting a larger share of the desktop market. People are gradually moving away from IE. Apple is once again a house-hold name (thanks to iPod). Whichever way you look at it, the computing industry is a much different place than it was a decade ago.
And if Microsoft do "die", it certainly won't be immediately apparent. Any idea how long it'd take an oil tanker to drift to a halt after it's engine had blown up?
I find that home users typically don't purchase OS's as soon as they come out, they trickle in as the big brands package them into their hardware offering. And until longhorn server releases we won't see a lot of companies rolling vista yet.
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Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.30 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: JoDirt
I find that many home users typically don't purchase OS's
There we go.
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.30 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 18:23:22
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
I have pretty much learned to ignore dark shikari in a thread that has anything to do with Microsoft, just like if i was someone else id know to ignore me in a conversation that involves ipods, they were genuinely interesting figures, and people do care DS.
Well I thought it was safe to assume that people knew that Microsoft made lots of money.
Are people really ignorant enough to think they don't? They're a big company! If they weren't making a lot, they'd be in the news like GM or Ford.
I just feel such posts are restating the obvious. Nothing wrong with Microsoft in particular; if someone posted the same about Exxon, I'd be like "DUH, of course they're making tons of money, have you looked at the gas pump lately?"
On the topic of Vista, if you got your head out of the sand and looked at the rest of the world, you'd realize it was a complete failure outside of the United States. Microsoft's biggest enemy is globalization; it introduces competition to their monopoly. This isn't a surprise to anyone though; the vast majority of the countries in the world pirate Microsoft products. Very few countries actually gain them a profit.
I live outside the USA  , like it has just been said, generally people don't upgrade their OS, they just wait to get a new computer.
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Constantine Arcanum
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.04.30 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
I have pretty much learned to ignore dark shikari in a thread that has anything to do with Microsoft, just like if i was someone else id know to ignore me in a conversation that involves ipods, they were genuinely interesting figures, and people do care DS.
sorry DS but the man is right...
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.30 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: JoDirt
I find that home users typically don't purchase OS's as soon as they come out, they trickle in as the big brands package them into their hardware offering. And until longhorn server releases we won't see a lot of companies rolling vista yet.
You're 100% right that users are slow on the switch over, but its entirely beside the point if we're comparing Vista's opening sales to XP's opening sales. However fast people upgrade would apply to both, making that statistic still relevant.
Not only that, but remember that XP only came a few years after the last Windows release, while Vista has been a long time coming. Further, Vista has exclusive features over XP (not least DX10) while XP had no such thing over Win2k's head.
I'm still not saying MS are dieing, because that'd be a ridiculous leap. All I'm pointing out is that, on paper, they're not doing as well right now as they have been in the past.
Fanboism is not good. Linux fanboism is bad enough. Apple fanboism may be pretty wretchworthy. But MS fanboism is the worst of the lot- if any company totally DOES NOT need misplaced product loyalty, its that super-giant.
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4rc4ng3L
Gallente
Blood Stained Angels
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Posted - 2007.05.01 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 30/04/2007 17:11:35
And Exxon makes three times as much as Microsoft.
Who cares?
Microsoft is a very large corporation with dozens of divisions, each larger than many of the companies you've compared them to. Its like saying "hah, GM sells more cars than Toyota sells Priuses!"
The comparison is completely invalid.
You kinda rant off like this in every thread to do with Microsoft....
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Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.01 00:20:00 -
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Lol, a rename of the thread to 'Bitter Dark Shikari gets owns by normal forum users' would be fitting I think.
And yea Microsoft is a pretty amazing company, that's not to say they are good or bad, but what they are and what they do is staggering.
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Vari
Carbide Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.01 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Vari
The only thing they're doing well is getting console exclusives for their Xbox machines. It sells the machines.
The irony about that is that they're losing money on each Xbox 360 (last I heard); its one of their few clear loss leaders.
Our favorite Jack Thompson is at it again. Uninformed, yet grabs lots of attention, and draws inaccurate conclusions.
Cutting edge console hardware has almost always been sold at a loss for the past decade. It's not new news. Console companies have always profit off games, not hardware. And what makes Microsoft a winner in this round? It has, with it's huge coffers, put as many machines in as many homes as possible and secured A++ titles. There are console exclusives like Gears of War and Halo 3 that will sell. And don't forget console appearances like Guitar Hero 2 and GTA4. Ask a PS3 owner today what proven games they have over the 360 and they have none. So money that was going to be spent on the PS3 is now going to the 360. GH2 and GTA4 would have never made it if Microsoft couldn't have promised those games will sell well for their console. And what's their way of doing that? Tell me geniuii! Selling lots of machines!!!!! YAY GOOD JOB YOU'RE SO SMART PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK The more machines the more profit. Not less. Sounds like common sense to me. Jack Thompson doesn't have any.
It's a beautifully vicious cycle. Secure good games -> sell more consoles -> more developers are less willing to do console exclusives, more good games secured -> sell more consoles -> sell more games, profit a lot after all is said and done. Microsoft is awesome at it because with their huge coffers they've bought the souls of plenty of development houses and have gotten the 360s moving. That and the PS3 is $600 so people would really want a reason to have one, and Nintendo dropped out of the expensive graphics warfare with the Wii.
Originally by: JoDirt
Yeah the Wii is doing very well, kicking the xbox 360 in the ass actually. been thinking about picking one up for my kid, if they come out with a star wars light sabor game that will lock the deal.
I have one myself, it's fun. I already am a PC gamer so that covers shiny graphics achieved through technical means. I trusted that Nintendo will make good party games and have gameplay the world has never seen before. And since I don't see the price of the console going down any time soon, now's a good a time as any to get one. Zelda does take 60 hours to beat :) Time to get started :)
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Iasius
Warp Angels
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Posted - 2007.05.01 08:06:00 -
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It was grim when we had to Windoze 9x in the 90's when 32 bit CPU's - 386 started in the 80's. I really liked NT 4.0 Workstation but XP should have been the last NT evolution. Vista is fine but to us its just fancy XP with directx10.
But would you prefer to be using IBM OS2? IBM is a very arrogant company. For work i prefer dealing with Microsoft that IBM's aloof consultants. My father in law worked for IBM for 30 years. He loved IBM's heritage and then hated consolidated factory farm hotdesking culture that started in the 90's.
Microsoft don't innovate - they buy out company's that do. Which is very good business sense really. They always ask me what should we do better, what do you think about this. Tech zealots like Sun Microsystems are stuck up their own arses.
Google can beat Microsoft with cheap desktop software delivered across the web. But you cant get a rich enough interface through a web browser.
I love Linux to explore computer technology but on the desktop its a joke for 95% of people and company's that have less than 10k employees. However i do play games in Debian with wine 
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Amarr Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2007.05.01 12:24:00 -
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Edited by: Buraken v2 on 01/05/2007 12:22:59
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Vari
$55 million in profit every 24 hours? Well they may be doing well financially for now, but trust me, they're losing. Globalization I suspect is doing it's part.
Office is stagnant, not going up nor down. IE sucks, Vista sucks.
The only thing they're doing well is getting console exclusives for their Xbox machines. It sells the machines.
The irony about that is that they're losing money on each Xbox 360 (last I heard); its one of their few clear loss leaders.
Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo (maybe not with the Wii perhaps though?) and all other game console manufacturers loose money on selling consoles, always. They aim for making it up by selling a a lot of games and other stuff that go with the console. If I am not seriously mistaken, but I am quite sure its like this.
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Caldari
5punkorp
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.01 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: Peter Armstrong on 01/05/2007 12:44:06
With all this talk on Vista and microsoft. I am not going to upgrade to vista and wait out whats going on in a few months. Most all all that directx10 maybe able to work on XP. If thats the case i not going to Vista.
Tho i have been looking at MAC but i know PC better for games than mac but The other OP Linux i dont know much about that and havent seen it really. Not sure to give it a try.
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