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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.16 17:37:44 -
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Querns wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:pointing out that after these changes, any alpha account is now potentially a cyno alt.
- infinite cyno alts. - infinite research jobs. just plex for an hour to install the jobs - infinite ganking alts. plex each alpha for a couple hours each, and gank a few freighters!
obviously its not literally 'infinite', there is still a limit as to how many computers you have and how many clients each of those can run... but why have 1 account for 30 days when you can have 30 accounts for 1 day?
i dont really see this change as useful. it just obscures the true cost of 30d subscription, and bypasses most of the f2p problems that were previously restricted. and whats the benefit? so you can carry 15 days of gametime in your ibis instead of 30? Nowhere in this dev blog was it stated that you'd be able to redeem one NuPLEX for a tiny slice of game time. It's likely going to be 30 days, or nothing.
They might do 3 month for 1400 or similar discount later on like they do on multi-month subs. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.16 17:53:55 -
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Cearain wrote:Querns wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:pointing out that after these changes, any alpha account is now potentially a cyno alt.
- infinite cyno alts. - infinite research jobs. just plex for an hour to install the jobs - infinite ganking alts. plex each alpha for a couple hours each, and gank a few freighters!
obviously its not literally 'infinite', there is still a limit as to how many computers you have and how many clients each of those can run... but why have 1 account for 30 days when you can have 30 accounts for 1 day?
i dont really see this change as useful. it just obscures the true cost of 30d subscription, and bypasses most of the f2p problems that were previously restricted. and whats the benefit? so you can carry 15 days of gametime in your ibis instead of 30? Nowhere in this dev blog was it stated that you'd be able to redeem one NuPLEX for a tiny slice of game time. It's likely going to be 30 days, or nothing. "We think it would be great if it could be broken into smaller units that fit your needs rather than always being bound to the size of 30 days. With that in mind, our first planned change is to convert every existing PLEX into 500 PLEX. After the change, anything you could get for 1 Plex from CCP will instead require 500 Plex." This seems to suggest you can get smaller than 30 days time. On the other hand nothing suggests it will be 30 days or nothing. CCP will lose allot of money if they allow smaller than 30 days time.
Smaller amount for service could also be unrelated to game time. What if they decide to ask for 250 for character remodel because it so very little used now for example? |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.16 18:21:36 -
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Cearain wrote:Sullen Decimus wrote:Allsales Final wrote:Sullen Decimus wrote:SIEGE RED wrote:Interesting, every bit of market data hints more than strongly at a CSM leak prior to this devblog. It was already weird, yet now it's clear. What?? What do you mean "what"? It is all quite odd. Announce a game changing policy on an arbitrary Thursday afternoon and hope the impact is minimized? It was leaked. What information are you gathering that it was leaked. Point me to the evidence you are referencing. It looks like the price of plex went up pretty sharply the last 3 days after holding steady for months.
Could be carrier/super raters getting more afktar online because they can't bother to be more active on their carrier/super.
Could be rorq pilots replacing their "nerfed into oblivion" rorq with a barge/exhumer fleet. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.16 18:36:46 -
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Nosum Hseebnrido wrote:In my opinion, this change is simply stupid and unnecessary.
1 plex will equal 500 plex, with will equal 30 days.
So everyone who want to use it to extend sub will have to spend exactly same amount of ISK in order to get 500p and tranfer them into sub. Where is the logic? Just stop with this idiotic game 'simplification'.
Because it mean they can delete a currency from the game universe. Aurums are gone. Every service/items they sell will now sell for variable amount of PLEX. They can now implement services at a cost lower than a "full PLEX" without going through a separate currency. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3203
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Posted - 2017.03.16 18:53:48 -
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Ben Ishikela wrote:Quote:For example, a balance of 1050 Aurum would be converted into 150 PLEX. Does this mean a profit of 45 plex for odd numbers?
It's a conversion at 7 to one. If your current aurum is not over 1k and not a complete multiple of 7, I'd bet you will lose aurum and that will be the end of it. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3203
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Posted - 2017.03.16 18:56:02 -
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Skully Luv wrote:If CCP wants more people to subscribe how about they respect existing subscribers and not short them when "specials" come out for new subs.
Pretty much every corporation treat new customers with offers only available if you are new. This isn't unique to CCP. It's actaully pretty standard in services sold for subscriptions. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3203
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Posted - 2017.03.16 19:00:10 -
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beakerax wrote:1000 seems easier to understand than 500GǪ
And then convert aurum at 1:3.5 ratio? There is a reason why they went with a divisor of 3500... |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3203
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Posted - 2017.03.16 19:01:33 -
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Tau Phoenix wrote:So, where will this change end up going?
Currently one PLEX is equal to 30 day of game time - Simple. By granulating this into a smaller commodity i can see the following happen:
PLEX units will be a smaller nominal cost to purchase with RL Money.
At first 500 PLEX units will = 30 days, then we will soon see 300 units = 14 days, 180 Units = 7 days. This can have its merits.
My concern will be if CCP decide that next month we they will change the requirement to purchase 30 days of game time to say 550 units of PLEX, then 600 etc.....
By having smaller PLEX commodities will give a greater control to manipulate the market, both in RL through the price to play the game and also the ingame markets as a consequence.
This will be another defining moment in CCP's history when this hits.....lets hope its not another 'Monocle gate'.
Oh noes!! CCP might raise it's price!!!
It's been trucking at the same price through 13 years worth of RL inflation... |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3204
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Posted - 2017.03.16 20:30:01 -
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Kharn Gorechild wrote:Excessive Microtransactions incoming. Watch them start selling plex at 400units a pop so you have to buy 2 for a month's worth of time
Who the hell buy PLEX with RL money to get a month of game time? |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3205
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Posted - 2017.03.16 21:29:30 -
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Myriad Blaze wrote:Def Monk wrote:So, 500 plex works out to be 1hr, 26min, 24 seconds of game time per PLEX. Why not convert them all to 720 units, which will make every plex exactly 1 hour of game time?
One nice outcome about this is someone can say "Hey, I wanna buy/give 1 week of play time". And they can do that now. But, then the question rises: how many do I need? With the current 500 per plex, that math is complicated and dumb. At 1 hour per, its simple: 24 hours, 7 days, I need 168 PLEX.
EDIT: My math is assuming 1 PLEX = 30 days. This is an excellent idea. It helps to explain PLEX and its value to new players: 1 PLEX is equivalent to 1 hour of game play. CCP currently has no plans regarding smaller game time packages than 30 days. By converting current PLEX to 720 units CCP would keep the option to change their minds, while a conversion to 500 units would limit their choices in that regard. Increasing the granularity slighly more should also make it easier to set good prices in the shop in the long run. Going for the 1 PLEX = 1 hour ratio would be elegant, whereas a 1 PLEX = 1,44 hours = 1h, 26min, 24s conversion is... less sophisticated.
LOL if you think they would sell game time in smaller unit at the same cost ratio. |
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