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And re the channel last night ....

I'm always cute m'dear, except when I'm not ...

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Jash actualy i heard SA go down pretty easily...especialy that imperial apoc you lost among other things...

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Well since Crice invited me to speak my opinion on this, here it is;

NVA first became aware of the activities of Crice corp during the tail end of the Venal Civil war, when it was noticed that they were tagged as "M3G4-Cleared" in the regions of FDZ. They were warned at the time that association with the pirate corp that was helping Taggart to ravage our home would make them a target to retaliatory NVA raids.

Later on when M3G4 folded and Biomass emerged and went on to break their pledges of neutrality and such, Crice again associated itself with pirates and thieves through quisling business interaction and shared mining/building ops.

Once again they were warned. Once again they chose to stand with the resurgent pirate alliance.

Then war and destruction and fleet engagements ... many ships were lost and in the climatic battle of the war FE were saved from certain annihilation by a freak stella occurence that caused an entirely fleet warp to go off target and evade the defensive NVA cordon in a piece of staggering "luck" (tm).

The aftermath saw FE scattering and another renwed offensive by NVA raiders against FE soft targets in the FDZ region, and Crice was bearing a heavy burden.

During this time dialogue was opened with Crice once more, and also by parallel channels with some of the Crice corp directors and managers.

Amazingly, it seemed that some of the Crice corp employees actually knew that they had been working for pirates and scum all along. Crice had sold them on Chrisopher Xen style "Nation of Eve" propaganda and had convinced his corp that they were the "good guys" fighting some hokey war of liberation from tyranny.

Top work by Crice of course.

But it did leave his people in a sticky situation. They were in the main industrialists and non-combatents, being blown to bits by NVA raiders night after night was proving bad for their morale.

I sat in on a summit meet with Crice and some of his officers and the tensions were evident. These guys were truly horrified to discover they had been lying down in the mud with the swine and were considered the scum of eve, and almost immediately a movement began to abandon Crice to his quisling schemes while seeking a clearer path elsewhere.

For the record I think the Crice people that left took a brave and honourable path. It does no good to stay in a den of thieves through fear at consquence. And having discovered the low intentions of Crice Corp they had no alternatives bar; continued kissing of the biomass ringpiece, or escape and a new life elsewhere.

So, now the tides of war have turned again and Biomass and Foresaken Empire are flexing their muscles. And who to pick on (in the absense of the ever-resilient NVA who frustratingly seem never to die)?

Well its time to pick on the little guy. To bully the innocents! To strut their funky stuff in empire and tyrannise some pacifist-industrialists who have chosen to abandon the war and pirate cause.

Effective possibly ... (FE badly need a war they can win, to demonstrate they actually have some walk to back up their talk.)

But its pretty low.

With the NVA remaining resolutely uncrushed, and unconquered, the 1billion isk a week weregild unpaid, the mining rights ungranted, and humiliating peace terms un-agreed.

It looks very much like Crice and FE are turning away from a dirty deed they couldn't accomplish in preference for one they think they can.

For our part, well, the NVA is at war with FE until such time as they renounce their ridiculous war-aims and come to the surrender table with their hands outstretched and attitudes penitant.

Since "when hell freezes over" seems to be the best estimation of when that happens, its likely to be a long war yet and provide plenty of opportunity for involvement on the part of the general population.

Here I think is a solid example of piratical powers choosing to bully passive industrialists to boast of their elite skills in a mostly foregone conclusion.

I think it would absolutely hilarious to see some actual PvP experts joining "The Delirious Conspiracy" to teach Crice and Biomass a much needed lesson in humility.

This war needs some upsets.

Lets see some brave souls leaguing with Leviathanie to make this happen.

Love and peace

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Well since Crice invited me to speak my opinion on this, here it is;

NVA first became aware of the activities of Crice corp during the tail end of the Venal Civil war, when it was noticed that they were tagged as "M3G4-Cleared" in the regions of FDZ. They were warned at the time that association with the pirate corp that was helping Taggart to ravage our home would make them a target to retaliatory NVA raids.

Later on when M3G4 folded and Biomass emerged and went on to break their pledges of neutrality and such, Crice again associated itself with pirates and thieves through quisling business interaction and shared mining/building ops.

Once again they were warned. Once again they chose to stand with the resurgent pirate alliance.

Then war and destruction and fleet engagements ... many ships were lost and in the climatic battle of the war FE were saved from certain annihilation by a freak stella occurence that caused an entirely fleet warp to go off target and evade the defensive NVA cordon in a piece of staggering "luck" (tm).

The aftermath saw FE scattering and another renwed offensive by NVA raiders against FE soft targets in the FDZ region, and Crice was bearing a heavy burden.

During this time dialogue was opened with Crice once more, and also by parallel channels with some of the Crice corp directors and managers.

Amazingly, it seemed that some of the Crice corp employees actually knew that they had been working for pirates and scum all along. Crice had sold them on Chrisopher Xen style "Nation of Eve" propaganda and had convinced his corp that they were the "good guys" fighting some hokey war of liberation from tyranny.

Top work by Crice of course.

But it did leave his people in a sticky situation. They were in the main industrialists and non-combatents, being blown to bits by NVA raiders night after night was proving bad for their morale.

I sat in on a summit meet with Crice and some of his officers and the tensions were evident. These guys were truly horrified to discover they had been lying down in the mud with the swine and were considered the scum of eve, and almost immediately a movement began to abandon Crice to his quisling schemes while seeking a clearer path elsewhere.

For the record I think the Crice people that left took a brave and honourable path. It does no good to stay in a den of thieves through fear at consquence. And having discovered the low intentions of Crice Corp they had no alternatives bar; continued kissing of the biomass ringpiece, or escape and a new life elsewhere.

So, now the tides of war have turned again and Biomass and Foresaken Empire are flexing their muscles. And who to pick on (in the absense of the ever-resilient NVA who frustratingly seem never to die)?

Well its time to pick on the little guy. To bully the innocents! To strut their funky stuff in empire and tyrannise some pacifist-industrialists who have chosen to abandon the war and pirate cause.

Effective possibly ... (FE badly need a war they can win, to demonstrate they actually have some walk to back up their talk.)

But its pretty low.

With the NVA remaining resolutely uncrushed, and unconquered, the 1billion isk a week weregild unpaid, the mining rights ungranted, and humiliating peace terms un-agreed.

It looks very much like Crice and FE are turning away from a dirty deed they couldn't accomplish in preference for one they think they can.

For our part, well, the NVA is at war with FE until such time as they renounce their ridiculous war-aims and come to the surrender table with their hands outstretched and attitudes penitant.

Since "when hell freezes over" seems to be the best estimation of when that happens, its likely to be a long war yet and provide plenty of opportunity for involvement on the part of the general population.

Here I think is a solid example of piratical powers choosing to bully passive industrialists to boast of their elite skills in a mostly foregone conclusion.

I think it would absolutely hilarious to see some actual PvP experts joining "The Delirious Conspiracy" to teach Crice and Biomass a much needed lesson in humility.

This war needs some upsets.

Lets see some brave souls leaguing with Leviathanie to make this happen.

Love and peace

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Yep you guys are really nasty mr "refiner-alt-to-avoid-the-bladerunners-who-otherwise-would-blow-your-ass-up" Tarris.

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I guess if they listen to me they might one day be in a position to face the mighty;

Biomass "remote conversation spam attack" ... ouch!

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or perhaps the famous Biomass "we jump into a stargate facing certain death and strangely come out at an entirely different location" manouver ... cunning!

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or maybe even the dreadful majesty of the patent Biomass "we camp the jumpin of a broken system where 90% of all incoming ships CTD or fall otherwise immobile" strategy ... nice!

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So monsieur Dontius "refiner alt" Tarris, you might take a moment to wonder why it is that no real PvP'er in Eve has any respect for your organisation whatsoever.

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Keenon - I thought you quit because of the travel changes? Or do you stay in the same system ganking all day now?

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Keenon - I thought you quit because of the travel changes? Or do you stay in the same system ganking all day now?

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if u payed attention u would know i was back- but then the only place i see u is on the forums

oh and about fighting Marichek
iv never seen u fight anything- so u go back killing those BAD BAD riods

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Yep you guys are really nasty mr "refiner-alt-to-avoid-the-bladerunners-who-otherwise-would-blow-your-ass-up" Tarris.

Really scary!

I guess if they listen to me they might one day be in a position to face the mighty;

Biomass "remote conversation spam attack" ... ouch!

or perhaps the famous Biomass "we jump into a stargate facing certain death and strangely come out at an entirely different location" manouver ... cunning!

or maybe even the dreadful majesty of the patent Biomass "we camp the jumpin of a broken system where 90% of all incoming ships CTD or fall otherwise immobile" strategy ... nice!

So monsieur Dontius "refiner alt" Tarris, you might take a moment to wonder why it is that no real PvP'er in Eve has any respect for your organisation whatsoever.

Could it be ... your reputation stinks?

Surely not.

Must be my cunning propaganda.

Love and peace

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So give me a break Bahgdad Bob. Cant you see the tank behind you with the American flag?

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Edited by: Jarjar on 02/01/2004 20:28:15

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Keenon - I thought you quit because of the travel changes? Or do you stay in the same system ganking all day now?

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if u payed attention u would know i was back- but then the only place i see u is on the forums

oh and about fighting Marichek
iv never seen u fight anything- so u go back killing those BAD BAD riods

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OK, I do realize that actually answering this post will just make things worse...
How would I notice you're back, by going to FD-MLJ? I haven't seen you in the lonetrek/PB/Venal area where I usually spend my time.
Have you ever seen me mining? No, you haven't. I haven't seen you doing a lot of fighting - so obviously you don't do it either!
That alt post was pretty low too, by the way.

I didn't really quit, but I haven't been playing too much in about 2 months. Gonna start a lot more now that we're at war, which means they can't hide in Torrinos anymore.

Edit: By the way again, what happened to your attitude? You seemed like a nice guy before you changed sides and started talking sh*t about the corp on the forums, lying about your assets etc.

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Jade please note that this was a war with Crice Corp not FE or Biomass. They have not been out there, we would rather fight our own little battles. It was the other corp the one making this post calling for aid that has brought others into it. Hell Crice even offered to duel Levi and it won't even go there. It was not untill an alliance was evoked to fight against Crice over a personal battle that anyone else got involved.

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So give me a break Bahgdad Bob. Cant you see the tank behind you with the American flag?

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Oh my lord, I think I have finally realised the problem with you monsieur Tarris.

You aren't playing Eve at all! You are actually playing Command and Conquer Generals and have gotten confused somewhere along the way.

This is a spaceship game dear.

Its in the far future.

There is no united states, no tanks. No desert campaign. And nothing for you to wriggle your beer-belly about in front of pay-for-view.

A disappointment for you I am sure, but you really should try to keep up!

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I think we are all really tired of you shouting from your silk-laden soap-box about fair play, exploits, honor, etc.

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Will wait in silence...

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