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Alia Nadasdy
Imperial's Capsulers
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Posted - 2017.04.02 23:42:54 -
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Ships of the CONCORD of the normal person : Great job designer. Ships of the CONCORD of a sick person: Disgusting design in the style of Cylons Cylons
Question. Why do ships have wings ? A maneuvering thrusters is not ? Why wings in space ?
"We are the Harbingers of hope, We are the Sword of the Righteous"
"We are a shadow of the former greatness of the Empire"
Purist Lord Admiral Victor
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Brent McBride
Jarlhettur's Drop
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Posted - 2017.04.03 00:08:27 -
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unless i'm wrong here but these were announced almost a year ago at last fanfest and it was said that people attending would receive them first as a gift in commemoration of CCP's 20th. Than latter that year they would be available to everyone to obtain threw an in game event so can everyone please calm down |
Danmal
TYR. Exodus.
43
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Posted - 2017.04.03 05:41:57 -
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A. does that mean that the rep bonus against pirates will be 0, because the floor of 10 x a negative number is 0, and 50 only against carebears? Oh how wonderful. Finally, carebears get the bad end of the deal.
B. If I cannot have one of these ships because I cannot be shilled into attending whatever fest, can I at least get my Police Ishtar back? Pretty please? |
Andrew Indy
Jedran Space Services
253
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Posted - 2017.04.03 08:55:25 -
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The frig reminds me of the head of an evangelion (EVEngelion :) ) .
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Kaivarian Coste
Placid Peace Corps
142
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Posted - 2017.04.03 09:01:15 -
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Brent McBride wrote:unless i'm wrong here but these were announced almost a year ago at last fanfest and it was said that people attending would receive them first as a gift in commemoration of CCP's 20th. Than latter that year they would be available to everyone to obtain threw an in game event so can everyone please calm down
They probably should be clear about that, because I honestly thought this ship would only be available to those who paid $$$ directly to CCP. |
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
283
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Posted - 2017.04.03 10:25:14 -
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WTF CCP, stop redesigning iconic ships into generic scifi nonsense. Some of us got into the game in part because of all the interesting ship designs: asymmetry, distinct racial designs, etc. And every time you redesign something you manage to make it worse. There's nothing wrong with the existing CONCORD hull designs, so leave them as they are. Stop trying to fix things that aren't broken.
(And requiring grinding sec status to 5.0 to use these ships effectively is a stupid mechanic, but at least that stupidity is limited by the limited number of these that will exist. Having to see the new CONCORD trash everywhere is not.) |
My Nin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.03 10:58:08 -
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I fail to see the problem here.
Ok the Mrshall is good and its ugly that only people who spend rl cash to travel to Iceland and Vegas will get it. However its only a few of those that will circulate at this stage and I don't see them as game breaking at all.
The frig and cruiser have less mid and low slots than their class hence are rather... poo. So, yeah not much to see here... |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3285
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Posted - 2017.04.03 12:58:06 -
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The funniest part about all of this is the majority of the money that needed to be forked out the get the BS probably end up in the pockets of a major airline and a hotel holding corp even if you live next door to one of the events. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
1987
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Posted - 2017.04.03 13:08:31 -
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Brent McBride wrote:unless i'm wrong here but these were announced almost a year ago at last fanfest and it was said that people attending would receive them first as a gift in commemoration of CCP's 20th. Than latter that year they would be available to everyone to obtain threw an in game event so can everyone please calm down
Quote:After a limited period of timed exclusivity these ships will become available again in the future through other special promotions.
Akrasjel Lanate
CEO of Lanate Industries
Citizen of Solitude
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Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
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Posted - 2017.04.03 14:18:19 -
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Alia Nadasdy wrote:Question. Why do ships have wings ? A maneuvering thrusters is not ? Why wings in space ?
Typically Aerospace ships are required to fly within atmosphere and wings would greatly help with that function regardless of thrusters.
A wingless 'Aerospace' craft that has serious engine failure in atmospheric flight is subject to sudden impact with the ground aswell.
Also note that these designs do say Concord Aerospace along the nose. |
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
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Posted - 2017.04.03 14:33:10 -
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Nice looking ships. But uh I'll wait to comment on capabilities until after someone from CCP confirms this wasn't meant as an April Fool's joke. |
Jimy F
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.03 18:14:48 -
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i wish also ask for confirmation before i write something abaut this specs, are this specs for serius? ccp do sometimes wierd things so i taking this like joke in 50%
also there is one more nice pic at eve upadate site of cruiser
and if someone wish to see this frig model, it is actual on sisi, concord shuttle have this frig modeld, but rest of this ships are not yet there |
Victor Fabre
Like Yamcha
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Posted - 2017.04.03 19:36:42 -
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Jimy F wrote:i wish also ask for confirmation before i write something abaut this specs, are this specs for serius? ccp do sometimes wierd things so i taking this like joke in 50%
also there is one more nice pic at eve upadate site of cruiser
and if someone wish to see this frig model, it is actual on sisi, concord shuttle have this frig modeld, but rest of this ships are not yet there
You can call the cruiser and frig model with the tag id and look at them |
Circumstantial Evidence
395
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Posted - 2017.04.03 20:57:59 -
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In RL, de-commissioned police vehicles owned by the public, if used in public, need to cover up their official markings, to prevent impersonation. (This is not a problem in a garage / hanger / museum.)
So from Lore perspective, I don't think ex-CONCORD ships should display CONCORD logo's or markings. (Including the Council Diplomatic Shuttle.) |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
2855
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Posted - 2017.04.03 22:49:16 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: Armor Repairer and Shield Booster effectiveness increased by a percentage equal to 10x pilot security status, with a floor of 0% and ceiling of 50%
Please add some pirate faction ships that have a similar mechanic, but based on negative security status. Maybe 50% damage bonus at -5.0 and 100% damage bonus at -10.0. Then make it so they do very little damage against NPC's of their own faction. And then make it so that NPC's of their own faction will not target them. That would be pretty sweet.
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
363
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Posted - 2017.04.04 04:03:52 -
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Victor Fabre wrote:Jimy F wrote:i wish also ask for confirmation before i write something abaut this specs, are this specs for serius? ccp do sometimes wierd things so i taking this like joke in 50%
also there is one more nice pic at eve upadate site of cruiser
and if someone wish to see this frig model, it is actual on sisi, concord shuttle have this frig modeld, but rest of this ships are not yet there You can call the cruiser and frig model with the tag id and look at them I tried that. It didn't work.
Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!
Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication Soldiers of TIN
445
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Posted - 2017.04.04 05:02:51 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote: I'm not saying they shouldn't be limited. But there's a difference between Genolution limited and "I had a couple thousand dollars lying around, so now I own this ship" limited.
While the announcement smells of Fresh Spring Flowers and April Fools, Chance is quite correct in this assessment is this is not a joke.
Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.
Support better localization for the Japanese Community.
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Veishe
Rubbish
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Posted - 2017.04.04 07:02:18 -
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web + tackle bonus in 1 ship?
Nice P2W CCP. |
Tasuku Furukawa
SAKUMA DROP Caladrius Alliance
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Posted - 2017.04.04 08:50:02 -
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Quote:They have significantly more slots than is usual for their class
So, Enforcer needs 6/5/5.
Quote:Pilots with high security status will gain an extra bonus to armor repairer and shield booster effectiveness
Hmm... IMO, jamming effectiveness bonus better.
Japanese DUST and EVE player.Character name is DJIPS/Tasuku Furukawa.
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
14860
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Posted - 2017.04.04 13:43:59 -
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Hey folks!
So for anyone who is still curious, this is not an April Fools joke. We are definitely interested in real feedback on these promo ships.
I made a pretty serious typo in the original post (which those of you who are watching the test server caught) in that the Enforcer slot layout is 6/5/5 rather than the 6/4/4 originally posted.
After reading through your initial feedback we've already made one tweak to help address some of your concerns, by reducing the tackle range bonuses on the Enforcer to 10% for webs and 5% for scrams/disruptors. The goal here is to avoid letting these ships become strong enough to make people feel they need to get them to compete. If needed we'll make more power reductions to reach that goal.
The security status rep bonus is indeed something quite unique, but it fits wonderfully with a promo ship released by CONCORD. The trick we're using here also gives us the ability to make ships that receive bonuses for having low security status in the future, which may fit well for some kind of pirate ships someday.
For people asking, these ships have 2 rigslots and 400 calibration like most other T2 ships and the Marshal has the same 4ly base jump range as the other Black Ops.
Thanks for the feedback so far and keep it coming!
Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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Alia Nadasdy
Imperial's Capsulers
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Posted - 2017.04.04 14:20:35 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote: I'm not opposed to asymmetrical designs, but the CONCORD Cruiser and Frigate looked like they were made just for the purpose of looking ridiculous. I'm not sure why designs that look impossible to believe are somehow "more creative" and "more authentic".
The design is terrible. Again a blue color like Mordu's Legion and Upwell.
The design does not fit, it's too simple. Homeworld
It was already, it's too monotonous. Wing up, wing to the right, wing to left.
I do not know what is there to admire the.
"Aerospace" - The name that does not fit into the CONCORD organization. CONCORD has subdivisions:
CAD - Commerce Assessment Department (CAD) oversees interstellar trade agreements and regulations. DED - Directive Enforcement Department (DED) is the police enforcement arm of CONCORD. DED has the responsibility of tracking down known criminals and attacking criminal facilities. They frequently operate outside empire space, wanting criminals to understand that there is nowhere safe from the long arm of the law. SCC - Secure Commerce Commission (SCC) is responsible for regulating and monitoring all trade transactions that take place on space stations. It acts under strict codes of neutrality. These codes ensure the SCC keeps all dealings secure and secret, so there is no chance for government interference.
I do not understand CCP
"We are the Harbingers of hope, We are the Sword of the Righteous"
"We are a shadow of the former greatness of the Empire"
Purist Lord Admiral Victor
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Cade Windstalker
1222
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Posted - 2017.04.04 14:23:08 -
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Wings on a spaceship actually make a fair amount of sense. They just don't work the same way, they're a relatively long and low-mass way to put a maneuvering thruster far from the center of mass of the hull, which lets you turn the main body and thus the main thrusters more effectively.
Also it's possible that a Concord hull may actually be designed with a certain amount of atmospheric flight in mind, since they're a police force and may be expected to pursue ships into a planet's atmosphere. |
Zircon Dasher
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Posted - 2017.04.04 14:25:53 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: The security status rep bonus is indeed something quite odd, but it fits wonderfully with a promo ship released by CONCORD. The trick we're using here also gives us the ability to make ships that receive bonuses for having low security status in the future, which may fit well for some kind of pirate ships someday.
Since it is now clear that gimmick mechanics are here to stay.... are NPC standings going to start boosting faction ships next year or the year after?
Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
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Stridsflygplan
Yjellio The Volition Cult
90
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Posted - 2017.04.04 14:42:46 -
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Generaly I feel the resist are a bit low for T2 resist. But fine omni resists is pretty nice trade off
PACIFIER: using it with a probe launcher and cloak cripples the dps to much. Needs to have another high slot or have 2 hard points with a bigger damage bonus.
ENFORCER: The damage is like a stabber without a drone bay. You end up being a half assed love child of arazu and rapier. But both those ships are faster, have better e-war bonuses and more damage with the dronebays. Conclustion: very fancy bait ship for dropping with.
MARSHAL: Looks fine, being a battleship doesnGÇÖt suffer as much from the low speed the ship line has, the plenty of slots and fitting really starts working now. You can shield tank it and still use the e-war bonuses etc. damage is still a bit shy but the environment you are going to use it in and e-war makes up for that by now. Battleship without a drone bay is pretty unique at least :)
Would it really hurt them to have a CPU reduction for expanded probe launchers? I feel like finding people wherever they are is something concord ships are good at. It would fit the flavor. |
Aleverette
Peoples Liberation Army Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2017.04.04 15:35:40 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: But it fits wonderfully with a promo ship released by CONCORD. The trick we're using here also gives us the ability to make ships that receive bonuses for having low security status in the future, which may fit well for some kind of pirate ships someday.
Can you make bonus only apply when the ship is in high/low/null/wormhole space respectively?
For example: "Very powerful ships when they are being used in high/low sec" sounds quite Concordy. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
2868
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Posted - 2017.04.04 17:54:44 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:
The security status rep bonus is indeed something quite odd, but it fits wonderfully with a promo ship released by CONCORD. The trick we're using here also gives us the ability to make ships that receive bonuses for having low security status in the future, which may fit well for some kind of pirate ships someday.
This is the best part. I hope I don't have to wait a decade for this...
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
406
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Posted - 2017.04.04 19:08:42 -
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eh, hull characteristics changing depending on your sec-status is not the best of ideas imo. |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
363
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Posted - 2017.04.04 19:42:04 -
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Ashlar Vellum wrote:eh, hull characteristics changing depending on your sec-status is not the best of ideas imo. If you think about it, it makes sense. Without that restriction, the ship could theoretically be quite useful to law-breakers.
However, with what I assume is going to be explained as a black-box function CONCORD put into those to keep them out of unlawful hands, the ships can only be used in most cases for ratting or hunting down criminals.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3291
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Posted - 2017.04.04 20:20:28 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: The security status rep bonus is indeed something quite odd, but it fits wonderfully with a promo ship released by CONCORD. The trick we're using here also gives us the ability to make ships that receive bonuses for having low security status in the future, which may fit well for some kind of pirate ships someday.
Bonus like that are already problematic IMO. At what point do you balance the relative power of the unit? It's maximum potential? Then it underpowered if you don't min-max your sec staus. Balanced by minimal potential? Then it's broken when in the hand of someone who does min-max it. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
14865
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Posted - 2017.04.04 20:23:20 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote: The security status rep bonus is indeed something quite odd, but it fits wonderfully with a promo ship released by CONCORD. The trick we're using here also gives us the ability to make ships that receive bonuses for having low security status in the future, which may fit well for some kind of pirate ships someday.
Bonus like that are already problematic IMO. At what point do you balance the relative power of the unit? It's maximum potential? Then it underpowered if you don't min-max your sec staus. Balanced by minimal potential? Then it's broken when in the hand of someone who does min-max it.
This bonus is tailor made for ships that we're perfectly fine with balancing to be slightly underpowered but very cool and thematically resonant. Since these are promo ships and not part of the ordinary ship rotation that sort of balance fits well.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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