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Mu-Shi Ai
Ai Capital
80
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Posted - 2012.01.02 09:41:00 -
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Bond is filling nicely, eh? |
Eddie Laydon
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.01.02 12:22:00 -
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DJ Blackman wrote:Like I said, do convo me. I believe you will find that I am perfectly willing to answer ^^ I am not concerned with telling you things like that which may put me in a bad light - but you seem too lazy to even convo me now. Your line of reasoning chiefly depends upon interpreting those sentences and words through your own prism, while you fail to realize that what other people meant is completely outside of your abilities to understand so simply.
Take, for example, of you hanging off the words 'humble offerings' - when I say so, I simply think that many people have greater experience than myself in handling greater amount of isk, and is simply making a gesture that I am not presuming anyone should think my thought in putting this bond forward is some kind of grand offering that everything revolves around. It is a simply matter of respectful gesture that shows I am acknowledging others may have more experience handling greater amounts of isk on daily basis, and I would be glad to partake in investing their money for mutual benefits. Such a simple statement, yet you attempt to twist it and interpret it to your own smug little point of view that I must also be so smug and snide in dealing with others. How about you do not presume to tell others meaning of their own words?
Another example, is how you think I am 'swiping' chribba's name to somehow 'legitimitize' myself. Now that requires a real stretch of imagination that only sounds good to those who would think in such a way. Where, oh where in my statement did I ever state that this bond or others have either direct or indirect support/connection/ or anything related to chribba? I was simply stating that his business is a good example of successful business, and that it is a merely an example to show such is possible. To think you would somehow interpret this as me attempting to take another's name in support of my own shows your presumptuousness even more.
The only point you even remotely make sense by not relying entirely upon your narrow-minded view of how other's think is regarding the fifth point of higher rates, and even that falls flat on the ground. Your interesting interpretation that I am stating it covers risk of running or otherwise shows how you presume to think I am making that offer within your subjective reasoning. The increased rates OF COURSE does not cover such risk. In the world of eve, if you attempt to scam there are ways to get around virtually all safeguards. I am neither denying nor hiding such an obvious matter. The point is, then, the higher rates, is a small but concrete gesture of appreciation towards those willing to take a chance at such ventures when I extend the olive branch, a matter of mutual benefit and a gesture of appreciation. That is all there is to it, yet somehow, once again, you presume that your interpretation is what others think.
All these points are moot in the face of the obvious basics: All I can offer is a choice, and some evidence to support my intentions. You don't want to partake, then no one's forcing you. I have never said that I can offer an absolute proof that I can be trusted. I only believe that greater benefit is possible with mutual cooperation between like minded folks, and that as long as they hold up their side of the bargain and offer same respect as I would, I have no reason personally to pursue a course different than what I had outlined. It is a choice, not one-sided persuasion, and I can respect others in their choices as well.
These questions and their fundemental problems have been discussed to death already so I really suggest you delve into past threads about how they are answered. Or convo me, doesn't matter.
If you don't even want to go that far, than there's little weight your words or you on anything really..
it is also very interesting to note how trolls don't try to point out or make legitimate rebuttles against my posts other than 'lolololi don't trust you and no one should either because I am a useless cynic with unwarranted self-importance lolol'
Really, why are you not answering any of my points pointing out obvious questions about how you 'legitimately' accuse others but are not willing to go one step towards actually putting your money where your mouth is?
The reason no one wants to answer your questions/points is because you rarely make any sense. All your arguments/rebuttals are based on the idea that we are disrespectful, presumptuous idiots. Why would anyone want to talk to you, you literally insult us in every paragraph.
It is your job to convince us that you are legit. If (and thats a really big if) we have misinterpreted your posts then it is at least partly your fault. I dont understand why potential investors have to contact you personally to get answers to their questions. |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.02 12:50:00 -
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lolwut
that's all that can be said.
It's filling up as it should, but thank you for your 'concern' and 'no hard feelings' mu-shi =) |
Mu-Shi Ai
Ai Capital
80
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Posted - 2012.01.02 13:25:00 -
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Eddie Laydon wrote:The reason no one wants to answer your questions/points is because you rarely make any sense. All your arguments/rebuttals are based on the idea that we are disrespectful, presumptuous idiots. Why would anyone want to talk to you, you literally insult us in every paragraph.
It is your job to convince us that you are legit. If (and thats a really big if) we have misinterpreted your posts then it is at least partly your fault. I dont understand why potential investors have to contact you personally to get answers to their questions.
It's pretty obvious by now that he's trolling. The defensiveness/smugness with which he's responded has become the biggest red flag in the whole proposal. You really do have to praise the sack on this guy, though, if only for the way he so overtly tries to spin every negative point about his proposal into a positive feature. No collateral? Hey, it's an opportunity to build trust! Too risky? Here, I'll give you a couple extra percent interest! Why so much ISK? Whaa??? This is a "humble offering"! People wipe their asses with 20bn ISK every day, don't they?
A long, drawn-out, multi-offering troll. That's what this is. |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.02 15:29:00 -
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I guess you have no problems flinging smug and defensive attitude to others but sure get riled when someone else gives it back? lol you won't see me trying to 'spin' anything. rather you should try to think outside your own little world and perhaps wonder why it is others succeed in ways you don't have to balls to try ^^
The only difference here is that I am willing to recognize difference in opinions in others, while you flat out attempt to stereotype anyone thinking differently as 'stupid', 'naive', 'glass-half full guy', etc. You don't seem to realize that 'recognizing difference' does not mean 'recognizing differences only comfortable to your way of thinking', but also those that are not. I have no problem with people pointing out glaring problems or giving well-founded criticism. Everyone has a problem with those whose intentions are not to be constructive, but to be obstructive in their disrespectful manner and attitude.
As for such response raising red flags, I can only apologize to the others in the peanut gallery, but sometimes even trolling has its dues, and I for one feel obliged somewhat that I need to defend my proposal at least from delusionals who seem to believe everyone else in the world must think the same as they do.....and presume to think they somehow hold rights to preach how other's should think as well.
Offer is ongoing, will respond to some of the mails. Also, please direct all mails to Colonel Vatutin, as he is logged most of the time. |
Avensys
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
82
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Posted - 2012.01.02 16:35:00 -
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tbh MD really needs a few successful scams.
+1 |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.02 16:45:00 -
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Would you like to put in isk and find out for yourself avensys? |
Hillesumos
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.01.02 23:05:00 -
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Sent 1bn to colonel, happy investing |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.02 23:17:00 -
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Thank you, Hillesumos for your investment once again =)
Open for more investors. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
103
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Posted - 2012.01.02 23:52:00 -
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DJ Blackman wrote: @Vaerah
Your offer is noted....though I may probably use more widely known services. Thank you for your offer.
You are welcome.
You'll find you how mine is one of the more widely known services who would consider a 20B operation and without skinning you alive. |
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DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.03 00:08:00 -
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'you how mine'? care to elaborate?
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Stabmeldys
Zero Taxes Corp.
3
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Posted - 2012.01.04 08:13:00 -
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Please reserve me 35 shares. ISK will be sent today. Good luck in your business. |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.04 10:29:00 -
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Reservation noted Stabmeldys. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
108
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Posted - 2012.01.04 11:35:00 -
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DJ Blackman wrote:'you how mine'? care to elaborate?
Sorry, English is not my forte.
Should read:
You'll find out how my service is one of the more widely known ones which would consider a 20B operation and without skinning you alive with mega-fees. |
Stabmeldys
Zero Taxes Corp.
3
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:47:00 -
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DJ Blackman wrote:Reservation noted Stabmeldys. ISK sent. Please confirm.
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DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:48:00 -
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Thank you for clarifying Vaerah.
Confirming Stabmeldys sending 3.5bn isk for bonds.
Bond still open open for at least 8bn or so. |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
140
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Posted - 2012.01.05 04:07:00 -
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DelBoy Trades wrote:Bond #1 - 500m Bond #2 - 2bn Bond #3 - 3bn Bond #4 - 5bn Bond #5 - 12bn Bong #6 - 20bn...
Have we reached your acceptable scam point yet? Or are you holding out for 50bil? yeah I was going to say the same thing.
These threads really are ridiculous and serve no purpose other than to trollololol people into thinking eves market is anything but scams of variable magnitude. |
General Mic
WarTech Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:30:00 -
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I'm going back to afghan land so I'm canceling my 10 shares reservation. |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.05 22:35:00 -
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Of course, I understand. Thank you for your services, and good luck on your next tour of duty. |
General Mic
WarTech Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.01.06 16:37:00 -
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Good luck on your bond. |
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LlamaBin Llama
Club Bear
3
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Posted - 2012.01.06 19:33:00 -
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I'll throw 20 shares in the mix. Why not? Didn't get scammed on the last bond. :) |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.06 19:49:00 -
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Thank you for your investments, Llama. I will update as soon as this other investor has posted his confirmation - he sent me the isk and eve mail but did not post here. |
Lupe Lamora
Pain Arising
0
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Posted - 2012.01.06 22:52:00 -
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Confirming.
Sent 600mill Isk for 6 Shares.
Thanks |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.07 03:50:00 -
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Thank you, Lupe Lamora for your investment and confirmation. |
LlamaBin Llama
Club Bear
3
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:30:00 -
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2B transferred. |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:33:00 -
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confirmed, llama. Thank you again.
Bond still open for 7.9-8.9bn isk. Get it while it's on =) |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
78
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Posted - 2012.01.29 12:53:00 -
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Update for Payday =)
Payments will be rendered as agreed with 12% interest to investors.
Juunichi Asakura - 5.6bn Hillesumos - 1.12bn Stabmeldys - 3.92bn Lupe Lamora - 672m LlamaBin Llama - 2.24bn
Total Payout: 13.552bn isk
Thank you investors for investing in this bond - it seems that certain limit has been reached as expected on bond gathering based on methods utilized so far, as expected I have to say, it was much more successful thanks to those willing to lend me the opportunity to invest their isk. I believe that it was necessary to conduct a form of uncollateralized bonds to show a certain degree of trust for investors and myself, but knew that pragmatic reasons would require I make collaterals available in the future. I had hoped I could reach the point where such limit was reached at the same time as having sufficient capital in hand where it would be profitable in the long run to post collaterals rather than not, and thanks again to investors willing to put in a degree of trust, I was able to achieve this. For that, I thank those of you who have invested thus far in the bonds for taking a chance with relative newcomer in the bond business.
As promised in earlier bonds, I am now considering collateralizing the future bonds to amount that I believe is appropriate to draw out maximum profit based on my current total asset capital, which is reaching somewhere around 45bn =)
I have been consulting with various people including previous investors, and I believe a hybrid bond with partial collateral amount is another way to go about doing these to start with. Once again, thank you for lending me your trust in helping me getting my total assets up to the point where collaterals become profitable instead of being an economic suicide in terms of profits.
The next bond will be probably partially collateralized, with collateral amount up for investment separate from rest of the bond amount. Probably within 20bn range, with about 8bn collateralized and rest up for uncollateralized amount, seeing as it was possible to raise little above 12.1bn from previous contract methods. That could change depending on investors (people who have invested with me in the past) input.
Investors, please confirm receipt of your isk as specified. Thank you, and hope you invest again |
LlamaBin Llama
Club Bear
3
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Posted - 2012.01.30 00:22:00 -
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Thank you sir! Isk received. Looking forward to the next bond.
I'll be interested in the collateralized portion. |
Stabmeldys
Zero Taxes Corp.
3
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Posted - 2012.01.31 07:49:00 -
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Confirming: interest rate and initial investment have been paid. Everything ran smoothly, thank you. Looking forward to have more business with you. Cheers. |
Hillesumos
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.02.01 19:10:00 -
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same here interest and capital paid....
I have sent 1B for new bond offering. |
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