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Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.08 08:48:00 -
[121]
Whatever it takes.
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Outface the depths of evil with clarity
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Raane Thyandar
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.08 12:39:00 -
[122]
Whatever it takes; ethics, principles and integrity go E-V.
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KhanJohn
Amarr
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.08 12:44:00 -
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It always amazes me how the toungues of the CVA are supported by those idealists that believe through stoking the lions mane of the CVA that they will somehow glimmer and be seen as equals, you all under an illusion created by doctrine that commands that you would be slaves unto god and the true light but you are nothing more than animals to the CVA on a food chain even those that swell the ranks of the CVA not of amarran bloodline
i speak of this because i was in the CVA and i was considered a greater being i am True Amarr my blood was considered closer to god than any other race even the ni kunni, i was on the top of the food chain i was a capsuleer, the CVA would have you believe through propaganda that you are equals you are not they enslave you not by chains like my matari brethren but with words with indoctrination with lies and deciet under the lie of protection that they are bringing the light to providence.
Yet they speak of purging and recleansing take Gauis Kador grand inquisitor who would shoot his own family if he felt they were unclean, the way of the true amarr and the mortal emporers is but a power game of control a beast of burden so huge it is untennable
that is why the amarran navy does not support the CVA and its motives in providence dont forget they are paramilitarys, providence is theres they come they slaughter all who oppose the Amarran faith, the Ushrakhan is by no means perfection we are a group of freedom fighters who struggle to figth for the lands of providence to be free, the men that stand with us may one day turn on us or we them but for now the ideology is the same defend unity and defend providence from amarran doctrine, the CVA will not turn providence into a new conquering as such did the amarr empire to the republic.
that is the only constant, we fight for freedom at WHATEVER the cost, whether it be even signing a pact with the devil himself, they fight for slavery and control over their territory we defend free territory and innocents die upon both sides whether this is in vein is but a perspective decided by the individual.
all there is, is war.
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zoolkhan
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.08 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 08/05/2007 13:07:43
 Originally by: Raane Thyandar
Whatever it takes; ethics, principles and integrity go E-V.
a) how can we abadon qualities that we never posessed according to CVA propaganda
Let me rephrase, which propaganda would you like us to believe?
b) lets keep this sentence for the records.
The offenders raid outpost 1/2 with 4:1 odds - catched UK down pants
6 of our dreads lost AI control and navigation simultanneusly during a SUCSESSFUL defense - and the insurance company (a.k.a. GMGODS inc)
claim we pulled plugs - no reimbursement,
cpital fleet decimated - ergo QR lost and defense of unity w/o allies not possible anymore.
the offenders raid outpost 2/2 now, our last one, our self built one
teh one our 400 pilots had to work hard for an entire year before hatching the egg...
The symbol of freedom in providence ; the last line and our home
and you dare to lift the index finger and start preaching moral?
What did you smoke? Your alliance has 4 outposts now, one of which stolen
others are symbold of terror and enslavement kept running by IG and their endless stream of t2 BPO's ...i am sure that there your GOD smiled on you heavily.
We kept our morals high as long as we could. respect and honour that.
And now, abadon your ship - we have friends that would like the loot.
U'K recruit!
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Kabajashi San
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.08 13:34:00 -
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I hear a lot of talk about UK destabilizing Providence with their new allies. Let's not forget the fact that it was CVA's assault on KD with their new allies that brought off the balance of powers. You put a cat in the corner and it may scratch you. None of the neighbouring allies in Providence was willing to do anything against CVA's attempt to put UK out of Providence and now you are all wondering why UK has then looked for new allies who are willing to take on the fight? Did you really find that surprising?
You talk about peace and stability in the region? Well, put CVA's attitude of "we are the choosen ones to rule the world" to rest and you will have a better peace than you ever had in providence. The Amarr have bitten more than they can chew and now they will suffocate on it, unwilling to let it loose again. People call it greed.
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DeadWeight
Minmatar
Botox Bandits
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Posted - 2007.05.08 13:51:00 -
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It is amusing to say the least that several of the more veteran capsuleers in U'K have finally acquired a more pragmatic view of the EvE galaxy. In these days of anniverseries and recognition of the first capsuleers of New Eden, one recalls freedom fighting corporations like Oracle being chastized for their association with m0o and the Curse Alliance. Its nice to see that some of the same voices have come to realize that not all anti-pirates are friends and not all pirates are enemies (well at least not all the time)
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zoolkhan
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.08 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: DeadWeight
It is amusing to say the least that several of the more veteran capsuleers in U'K have finally acquired a more pragmatic view of the EvE galaxy. In these days of anniverseries and recognition of the first capsuleers of New Eden, one recalls freedom fighting corporations like Oracle being chastized for their association with m0o and the Curse Alliance. Its nice to see that some of the same voices have come to realize that not all anti-pirates are friends and not all pirates are enemies (well at least not all the time)
I am tempted to say, point taken.
But 4 years ago things were different.
I was different. I was a young freedom fighter, hotblooded, honest
and i wanted fairplay and equality for all matari people..
I am not sure if you refer to me at all, because i dont recall your name.
I admit i was in rage about oracle, i cant recall anymore why exactly. I think
they shanghaied pilots :-) I do also remember i flew alongside oracle
and old****s like wren and eddie :)
Its true, things arent so black and white anymore.
In the past years many things happened to us.
The republic hates us, we hate midular for her ignorance
we consider ourselfes more or less outlaws of the republic,
we feel closer to the thukker tribe and understand their ways much better now
than years ago.
ironic, or natural development on the rough path from birth to grave?
Methods change, the goal remained consistent.
We come for our people
U'K recruit!
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.09 02:07:00 -
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DeadWeight & Zool have cut to the heart of the matter.
Ushra'Khan seek to free our people. We live only to bring death to the institutions of slavery.
We once sought to shield the Republic and protect our Brothers there from all threats, pirates and slavers alike. But Midular's regime would not support us. Now that same regime calls me traitor for my support of Karishal and seeks to make peace with the Ammatar in secrecy.
Behind us we have the treachery of politicians, in front of us we have the scourge of the slavers, blood enemy to our people. The slavers brought a horde of allies into the region and our new defences in QR were still being constructed when their armada washed them away. When our 'peaceful' neighbours thought they smelled death on us they were quick to strike at our exposed flanks.
Isolated, outnumbered and surrounded we stood alone. At least that is what we thought. There is a saying from the ancients that you cannot truly know a man until you fight him. In the past I have fought those I now call ally. They are beyond doubt the most honest, up front and dignified warriors I have met.
If this honour you speak of means lying to a mans face while you take his lands you can keep it. If dignity means talking peace until you can safely slip a knife in his ribs then I want no part of it. I see marauders, slavers and those who serve them speak of some high moral standard, but I have fought you all. I know you, I have seen your true face and it is an ungly and dishonest face.
I have been called many things, terrorist, pirate, monkey, slave. I care not how my enemies judge me, I care only that my people are freed from tyranny.
I can understand the bitterness of my enemies. They planned for an easy and overwhealming kill. But we will not go quietly into the night.
I am Telemicus Thrace. I am Ushra'Khan. We come for our people.
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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.09 12:56:00 -
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Quote:
Ushra'Khan seek to free our people. We live only to bring death to the institutions of slavery.
We once sought to shield the Republic and protect our Brothers there from all threats, pirates and slavers alike. But Midular's regime would not support us. Now that same regime calls me traitor for my support of Karishal and seeks to make peace with the Ammatar in secrecy.
Even if slavery ended tomorrow and the Empire allowed the Republic to exist in peace you would still be a terrorist. Why? Because you wouldn't be able to help yourselves. Look at your new pirate allies and ask yourself what their motivation for violence is. Do they seek to end slavery or do they simply seek to destroy? You brought these bastard children of sin into this battle and now you will reap what they sow.
Everything could be as you want tomorrow and the day after you would still be attacking innocent legal shipping. Why? Because you are a terrorist and it's in your very nature.
Archbishop
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Kabajashi San
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.09 13:19:00 -
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Yeah, you are most certainly right. If peace broke out tomorrow we would just go around randomly shooting people, terrorizing the innocent we come across and flame waring the Eve gate. Also we would insult giant secure cans to death and threaten moons to give up their arrogant attitude. Do you actually believe what you say?
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Wren
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.09 13:20:00 -
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Archbishop, again you presume to know the hearts and minds of hundreds of people simply by your arrogance and delusions.
We both know slavery won't be abolished tomorrow. We both know that even if it was, there would still be things for the U'K to do, not all things threatening freedom is in the form of golden ships and slaver whips.
Go spew your filth to those who listen to you, namely, people within your alliance chat. Their meaning dies upon your lips for all others.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.09 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Wren
We both know slavery won't be abolished tomorrow. We both know that even if it was, there would still be things for the U'K to do
contradiction of Khaldorn's very own words spoken before Ushra'Khan lost its way to the greed of territory and the association of piracy.
Ushra'khan was formed to be an abolitionist alliance only, and once it succeeded there would be no more UshraĘKhan. Argue it not for your founders said it just so! their words left with posterity for all time here on the IGS. You have forgotten your founding principles, how easy it is to do so when isk from pirate-vessel docking fees flow into your coffersą
The Ushra'Khan as it was is dead, Ottom was right to leave you.
Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think.
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Wren
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.09 13:50:00 -
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I didn't join the corp when it was founded, look it up. I only joined recently and only joined to put shells on golden ships. I am sure he wasn't talking about U'K the organization and neither was I, he was talking about the pilots rampaging anything and everything in sight as soon as slavery was abolished. I'm not going to waste another breath speaking to you in public again, Bliss.
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zoolkhan
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.09 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 09/05/2007 18:57:54
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Ushra'khan was formed to be an abolitionist alliance only, and once it succeeded there would be no more Ushra’Khan. Argue it not for your founders said it just so! their words left with posterity for all time here on the IGS.
you should not teach UK members about anything connected to the foundation.
Thats even for your standards ridiculous.
Most respect to brother khaldorn who is now in excile for a while...
But he is NOT a founding member. He was a a charismatic and lunatic warrior
and therefore famous.
And if you referr to quotes, help the reader and provide a link.
Ushra'Khan will not stop to exist in the hzpothetic case of a sudden end of all slavery, we would first aid the endless convoys of freed people who need
shelter, jobs , feeding and so on.. i am convinced the republic alone is unable to
deal with that alone.
Then we may turn into guardians of freedom, to prevent a fallback into old habits
of slavery.... ah so many options , so many targets - drone hives, after years they even exist in concord controlled space - from my old agents i know that they search desperately for skilled pilot to get that issue under controls.
Oh so many possibilities..
dont challenge me
U'K recruit!
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Ottom Ephesianos
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.10 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
how easy it is to do so when isk from pirate-vessel docking fees flow into your coffersą
The Ushra'Khan as it was is dead, Ottom was right to leave you.
I didn't leave man, I was kicked out. If Maggot hadn't I would still be there to the last ship and my pod. Tis a good thing perhaps. It was not my fight from the perspective of the Minmatar I fought beside. Though I feel so. My blood trail of slavery is new to the likes of this world but very real. I feel as strongly then as I do now about abolishing the primitive system of control. However please know that I didn't leave, I was totally kicked out.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.10 02:42:00 -
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What an interesting turn this debate has taken. We stand accused of a crime we are yet to commit.
So you say that Ushra'Khan will turn to piracy and murder for it's own sake once we have brought an end to slavery. We are innocent of that charge and the slavers should step up to the plate and prove otherwise.
Abolish slavery, denounce it now completely and forever. Release all the slaves across the Empire and have whatever stands in place of your dead Emperor write it into law that slavery is now illegal under Amarrian law. Then we can prove we only do this for the freedom of our kin.
Do it not and you expose yourself as a liar spewing forth as much tripe as you can in the hope some will stick.
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Ugleb
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.10 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
Even if slavery ended tomorrow and the Empire allowed the Republic to exist in peace you would still be a terrorist. Why? Because you wouldn't be able to help yourselves. Look at your new pirate allies and ask yourself what their motivation for violence is. Do they seek to end slavery or do they simply seek to destroy? You brought these bastard children of sin into this battle and now you will reap what they sow.
Everything could be as you want tomorrow and the day after you would still be attacking innocent legal shipping. Why? Because you are a terrorist and it's in your very nature.
Archbishop
I embarked upon a road to purpose that has led me to this point, and will lead me until either the completion of our mission or my own end, whichever comes first.
In this cause my life again found meaning, that I have said many times that should the cause demand it I accept damnation for actions I must take. Should my people walk free within my lifetime it will be up to them to decide how I am remembered. They may honour me, they may damn me, but I shall have found my own peace.
It is my nature to serve, I have chosen to serve those who have greatest need of it. Today they have no voice, I shall play my part in returning it to them. And it is that voice that shall be my judge. And yours. If I am truly damned for my actions, I shall join you in damnation for yours.
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Ikar Kaltin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 00:12:00 -
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All I have to say on this issue is simply:
Im amused.
In Ushrakhans search for freedom they have endebted themselves to entitys worse than any picture of the Amarrians they may paint.
I find it ironic in the search for the path to freedom they have found only dependence upon others. Enjoy your "freedom" UK, because not only are CVA not going anywhere but I doubt you are going to see any true freedom for a long time now, never mind the freeing of anyone else.
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