Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Caide Roth
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 20:55:04 -
[1] - Quote
I dont plan on doing any trading/merching boring spreadsheet garbage, all I want to do is attack other players and plunder their loot and fittings. Will I be able to do that as a purely [F2P] Alpha Clone character? |
Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
474
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 20:56:30 -
[2] - Quote
Yes. However, due to skill limitations you might find it easier to do so with friends. I recommend finding a corp, even an Alpha is a valuable asset in tackle or EWAR.
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
|
Caide Roth
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 22:02:38 -
[3] - Quote
Dark Lord Trump wrote:Yes. However, due to skill limitations you might find it easier to do so with friends. I recommend finding a corp, even an Alpha is a valuable asset in tackle or EWAR.
What about frigates and mining vessels, looting ships, etc how I was thinking was that since you need to fit your ship with mining equipment/ exploration stuff that leaves little room for weapons, arent those the easier targets to kill solo?
Kinda like in AC4: Black Flag, the bigger ships always had the better goods on it but since it needed all the room to carry those goods they had little to no firepower to defend themselves. |
Nikea Tiber
Backwater Enterprises RD
73
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 22:27:58 -
[4] - Quote
Caide Roth wrote:[quote=Dark Lord Trump]
What about frigates and mining vessels, looting ships, etc how I was thinking was that since you need to fit your ship with mining equipment/ exploration stuff that leaves little room for weapons, arent those the easier targets to kill solo?
Kinda like in AC4: Black Flag, the bigger ships always had the better goods on it but since it needed all the room to carry those goods they had little to no firepower to defend themselves.
Do yourself a favor and don't think of eve in terms of other games, comparisons fail miserably.
Solo in eve will leave you disappointed; find and join a corp.
my other nano is a polycarb
|
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
20913
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 22:33:51 -
[5] - Quote
Love the enthusiasm, I recommend you go shoot some pirates in the face.
When be they inevitably beat the living snot out of you that's generally the best time to turn on that newbro charm, show you can take a slap or too with a good attitude and you're going to make friends quickly.
Find people who are fun to fly with, learn from them, trust me it'll be a world of difference.
Murderers of Negotiable Motivations
Lords.Of.Midnight currently recruiting
|
Caide Roth
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 22:43:56 -
[6] - Quote
Kinda dont like how everyone is saying find players to team up with, in general id prefer to be solo pirating but from all the feedback so far it seems like the only way people play this game is by teaming up with each other and ganking single targets which I guess has some fun to it but doesnt give the satisfaction of raiding alone kinda how a player would KS in league of legends.
Teaming in general just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like if im gonna raid id prefer to do it alone and with my own ships firepower, so if i do choose to keep playing as a f2p alpha clone pirate will my time as one be wasted? Or should i look for another open pk game? |
Shelby Dusette
Division 13
14475
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 22:51:52 -
[7] - Quote
Caide Roth wrote:Teaming in general just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like if im gonna raid id prefer to do it alone and with my own ships firepower, so if i do choose to keep playing as a f2p alpha clone pirate will my time as one be wasted? Or should i look for another open pk game? No one can really say.
Yes, it's possible to be a successful solo-pirate on an alpha. Anything's possible.
No, it wouldn't be easy, and whether or not your time would be wasted, well people can't say. Only you can value your own time. Solo-anything in EVE is possible, but the learning curve is going to be much, much steeper especially when skill-limited too. If you're having fun on the way though then your time's not wasted. Playing an Alpha is free and lowsec ain't that far away. Go throw yourself in and see if you enjoy what you find. Initially you will find it hard and more often than not come across groups than other soloists, but if you enjoy the journey then your time's not wasted.
-ò-+-öGäô-¦-â
pàñ
-ò-â -+-â+¦-ò-é GÖÑ -ò-àc-+ -¦-Å+¦++-ö GÖÑ -+any l-ög+¦-â-+ GÖÑ wow
|
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1964
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 23:02:12 -
[8] - Quote
Eve is a monthly subscription game. The alpha clone thing is more of a unlimited trial than it is an actual F2P. Also as has been pointed out Eve favors group efforts over solo.
However that being said there are people who have great success solo. It just almost never happens without lots of experience and in Eve experience means lost ships.
Here is a link that I link often: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de1hwoFYA_k&t=156s
It is a video of a very experienced player on a very low skill point alt. This gives you an idea of what is possible. However keep in mind that what he is doing is only possible with a very in depth understanding of the game. It takes not only know how to fight but knowing when to fight and also a metric ass ton of situational awareness.
But if you are willing to take enough punches to the face and keep getting back up for more then eventually you could be as good or better than the likes of suitonia.
So what is possible and what is fun for you might be one in the same or they might be very different. Eve is a sandbox and a true MMO. It has as many different "right ways" to play it as it has people playing it. I'm not really sure how to advise if it will fit your playstyle or not.
If you can let go of expectations taught to you by other games you will have a much better chance of enjoying Eve. Hope this post helps. Regardless have fun and welcome to Eve.
|
Cara Forelli
Better Off Red Unspoken Alliance.
2219
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 23:10:35 -
[9] - Quote
Caide Roth wrote:so if i do choose to keep playing as a f2p alpha clone pirate will my time as one be wasted? Yes
Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli
Titan's Lament
|
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
20916
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 23:15:29 -
[10] - Quote
Caide Roth wrote:Kinda dont like how everyone is saying find players to team up with, in general id prefer to be solo pirating but from all the feedback so far it seems like the only way people play this game is by teaming up with each other and ganking single targets which I guess has some fun to it but doesnt give the satisfaction of raiding alone kinda how a player would KS in league of legends.
Teaming in general just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like if im gonna raid id prefer to do it alone and with my own ships firepower, so if i do choose to keep playing as a f2p alpha clone pirate will my time as one be wasted? Or should i look for another open pk game? Reason being, eve is big, lots to know.
Two days with a switched on player can be worth nearly two weeks of solo trial and error. You can go do your solo thing, believe me you can, you can punch well above your weight if you know how.
Our point is , that know how will be considerably easier to come by with an established group
Murderers of Negotiable Motivations
Lords.Of.Midnight currently recruiting
|
|
Keno Skir
1461
|
Posted - 2017.04.02 23:17:10 -
[11] - Quote
You can solo if you're real careful about picking targets.
<Gùï> 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <Gùï>
<Gùï> Contact me regarding my trusted Alliance Creation Service <Gùï>
|
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Shadow Cartel
11617
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 00:12:35 -
[12] - Quote
Caide Roth wrote:I dont plan on doing any trading/merching boring spreadsheet garbage, all I want to do is attack other players and plunder their loot and fittings. Will I be able to do that as a purely [F2P] Alpha Clone character? You can definitely do that as an Alpha player. It will be hard, but it doable.
And unfortunately, you won't be able to completely escape from the spreadsheets (or basic math and economic understanding at the very least).
PvP and economics go hand in hand here.
note: most "good" PvPers dabble in industry or trading to fund their activities.
Caide Roth wrote:Kinda dont like how everyone is saying find players to team up with, in general id prefer to be solo pirating but from all the feedback so far it seems like the only way people play this game is by teaming up with each other and ganking single targets which I guess has some fun to it but doesnt give the satisfaction of raiding alone kinda how a player would KS in league of legends. Okay... so... the reason that people tell you to team up with others is because, for the time being, you don't know anything.
You probably do not know all of the ships. You probably do not know how to properly fit ships. You probably do not know how to guesstimate a ship fit based on the ship type, the visual movements, what weapons it uses.
You probably do not know the mechanics. You probably do not know how to manipulate the mechanics. You probably do not know how to formulate tactics and ship fits to manipulate the mechanics.
As a relative newbie in EVE... you are learning. And it is much easier and cheaper to learn with/from others than it is to research and experiment on your own without context for any of the information you are absorbing.
Then again... that is strictly my opinion. >_>
Also... drop the comparisons with other games. EVE is less League of Legends and more Starcraft in the sense that it is more about tactics and using the correct equipment, in the right ways, at the right times.
And do understand that while YOU want a "fight fair," your opponent may not feel the same and won't limit themselves to such e-bushido.
Caide Roth wrote:Teaming in general just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like if im gonna raid id prefer to do it alone and with my own ships firepower, so if i do choose to keep playing as a f2p alpha clone pirate will my time as one be wasted? Or should i look for another open pk game? Based on your responses thus far... I am leaning towards (and I don't say this often) "find another game."
This is nothing to feel bad about.
EVE is not for everyone.
It is primarily a game about interaction between players, playstyles, mentalities, and economies... for better and worse. (see also: EVE is all about PvP in a "grand" sense... not just one)
This is not a "strap yerself inta a ship an spam dat **** until yer skills improve!" kind of game.
If you do not like to team up with others, sure. You can do that. Simply understand that the two other guys over there that teamed up... they are going to have more "power" than you. After all, from a mechanical perspective they are "solo players" that just happen to be working towards the same goal.
How did you Veterans start?
|
Oraac Ensor
756
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 00:32:50 -
[13] - Quote
Nikea Tiber wrote: Solo in eve will leave you disappointed; find and join a corp.
Or, if you're anything like me, solo will be right up your street and joining a corp the stuff of nightmares. |
Cara Forelli
Better Off Red Unspoken Alliance.
2221
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 01:46:31 -
[14] - Quote
Oraac Ensor wrote:Nikea Tiber wrote: Solo in eve will leave you disappointed; find and join a corp.
Or, if you're anything like me, solo will be right up your street and joining a corp the stuff of nightmares. But you are not an alpha (trial) account
Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli
Titan's Lament
|
Oraac Ensor
757
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 02:25:42 -
[15] - Quote
Cara Forelli wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Nikea Tiber wrote: Solo in eve will leave you disappointed; find and join a corp.
Or, if you're anything like me, solo will be right up your street and joining a corp the stuff of nightmares. But you are not an alpha (trial) account Actually, I have four alpha accounts and I'm quite enjoying the challenge of playing under their respective single race disciplines. Brings a whole new perspective to the game, although I agree that it's not exactly a trial.
(As a side bonus it also gives me a whole game experience, which has been lacking from my omega account since I was forced against my will into using the useless bug-ridden launcher instead of the exefile.) |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
60879
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 04:00:53 -
[16] - Quote
Despite what most of the others have said, you can indeed play this game solo and you don't have to join a player made corporation if you don't want to.
I suggest doing some Google Research and check out info guides pertaining to solo pirating in Eve. Some of the content may be a bit dated but I'm sure most of the info will still be viable. If all you really want to do is small scale solo PvP action, you might want to consider doing Faction Warfare content in Eve.
I think the first aspect for beginner pirates is mission invasion and exploration site invasion doing Ninja Salvaging. Google it. That will allow you to make some ISK and give you time to continuing gathering information for a pirating career while training up the appropriate skills.
If you plan on Suicide Ganking Industrial ships in High Sec space then you'll need to have another player with you to collect the loot since your ship will be destroyed by Concord NPC's, whether you successfully gank the Industrial ship or not.
In my opinion a true Pirate roams low security looking for loot filled ships to attack and carefully selects their targets with the intention of surviving. Suicide Ganking in High Sec is like modern day Terrorists, they have no intention of surviving the attack.
Anyway, good luck to you.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
|
Cara Forelli
Better Off Red Unspoken Alliance.
2221
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 04:08:22 -
[17] - Quote
Solo Alpha Successful Pirate
(Pick two)
Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli
Titan's Lament
|
Yebo Lakatosh
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
157
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 05:44:36 -
[18] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Ninja Salvaging. Google it. That's how I started in my early days, was very educational, great fun ang good ISK.
And while you google already, look up "Mission Baiting" too. Once you know what you are doing (and if your target does not, but HS missioners often don't), you can start getting awesome cruiser and battlecruiser kills in tiny Alpha frigates.
They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
|
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
2407
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 11:39:41 -
[19] - Quote
I play both, Alpha and Omega Accounts. You can go solo Pirate with an Alpha Account, BUT you have to plan ahead, be tricky, gather lots of information and sometimes you have to run away.
Omega and/or groups can be much more YOLO, them ur us.. you get the point.. |
Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
575
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 14:17:01 -
[20] - Quote
I'm currently training a character to be my solo in the deepest, dankest, most manure smelling piece of real estate in eve...low sec, oh that alphabet character will have so many misadventures in low sec. |
|
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1371
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 17:39:16 -
[21] - Quote
The knowledge you need to solo is not to be underestimated. But it's very doable. Other people, other problems
@lunettelulu7
|
Keno Skir
1465
|
Posted - 2017.04.03 17:46:03 -
[22] - Quote
Cara Forelli wrote:Solo Alpha Successful Pirate
(Pick two)
This is such complete rubbish i'm half wondering if you're trolling. If you're not trolling, might i point out once again what a total load of old b*llocks you're spewing. Just because you personally aren't skilled enough to solo with an Alpha Clone doesn't mean other people will be similarly stunted.
Solo is just hard mode, not impossible. With education it doesn't take much in the way of SP skills.
<Gùï> 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <Gùï>
<Gùï> Contact me regarding my trusted Alliance Creation Service <Gùï>
|
Cara Forelli
Better Off Red Unspoken Alliance.
2225
|
Posted - 2017.04.04 04:39:49 -
[23] - Quote
Keno Skir wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:Solo Alpha Successful Pirate
(Pick two) This is such complete rubbish i'm half wondering if you're trolling. I never troll in this forum section. I very much doubt the OP will enjoy solo pirating as an alpha clone even if he does manage to kill some things. I would love to see him prove me wrong, however.
Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli
Titan's Lament
|
Netan MalDoran
Planet Squanch
275
|
Posted - 2017.04.04 05:20:45 -
[24] - Quote
Caide Roth wrote:Kinda dont like how everyone is saying find players to team up with, in general id prefer to be solo pirating but from all the feedback so far it seems like the only way people play this game is by teaming up with each other and ganking single targets which I guess has some fun to it but doesnt give the satisfaction of raiding alone kinda how a player would KS in league of legends.
Teaming in general just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like if im gonna raid id prefer to do it alone and with my own ships firepower, so if i do choose to keep playing as a f2p alpha clone pirate will my time as one be wasted? Or should i look for another open pk game?
Well, im not the best solo PvPer at all, but I do it for the fun!
Before all of this F2P stuff I used to sub and solo pvp with frigates and destroyers, its fun! Im not the most social person, so I like many solo activities (or with a friend or two), and when I want group things, there are NPSI groups like spectre fleet that you can join at any time for larger fleets!
I dont have much time with college, so Im only going to sub in the summer, and right now Im just on a F2P account, but I can still have just the same fun as before! The only things that were different for me is that I can only use my race's ships (My algossss :'c ) [not much of a worry, each race has a few different types of good pvp ships!] and the fact that some of my equipement is now a little weaker (not too bad, you can use some T2 stuff, the rest just meta 4 it) so I just have to pick my fights better, something that you will get better at.
So yeah, go fit some cheap frigates and go out there! when you start getting some kills (It was awhile before mine, be patient and its rewarding!) try a destroyer! usually cruisers are useless in most solo stuff that we would be doing. But most importantly have fun doing it!.
P.S. You mentioned before how you would have room to fit guns with mining equipment, it doenst work like other mmo's where you have one character, you will have tens or even hundreds of ships, when you put one together, give it a single purpose and focus on that.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Falcon's truth
|
Keno Skir
1470
|
Posted - 2017.04.04 17:07:21 -
[25] - Quote
Cara Forelli wrote:Keno Skir wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:Solo Alpha Successful Pirate
(Pick two) This is such complete rubbish i'm half wondering if you're trolling. I never troll in this forum section. I very much doubt the OP will enjoy solo pirating as an alpha clone even if he does manage to kill some things. I would love to see him prove me wrong, however.
"you might not enjoy it but yes it's well possible" is a very different reply from "Solo / Alpha / Successful Pirate, choose two"..
<Gùï> 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <Gùï>
<Gùï> Contact me regarding my trusted Alliance Creation Service <Gùï>
|
Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
80
|
Posted - 2017.04.04 18:01:22 -
[26] - Quote
I suck at PvP... but most of what I do is solo due to not taking part in comms (which is kind of required for most group actions).
I'm not looking to pirate for profit though... I engage in PvP mostly in FW plexes (which are limited by ship size) so I can find relatively equal fights.
With that methodology you can absolutely find enjoyable fights. You don't even need to be in Faction Warfare... just in FW space looking for occupied novice plexes (if in a frigate). Joining FW might be a good option as you can support your PvP habit through running plexes and FW missions to buy new ships.
As an alpha, you'll have to recognize that you will often be at a disadvantage due to lack of T2 weapons. You can win some... but if all else is equal but the other guy has T2 stuff and Omega level skills... well you better have some excellent tactics to cover that.
If you're just looking to gank miners... I hear a T1 catalyst does a good job. |
Orakkus
Imperium Technologies DARKNESS.
340
|
Posted - 2017.04.04 18:04:16 -
[27] - Quote
Caide Roth wrote:I dont plan on doing any trading/merching boring spreadsheet garbage, all I want to do is attack other players and plunder their loot and fittings. Will I be able to do that as a purely [F2P] Alpha Clone character?
I don't know.
Can you?
He's not just famous, he's "IN" famous. - Ned Nederlander
|
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6765
|
Posted - 2017.04.04 19:04:17 -
[28] - Quote
Pancakes is a corporation that specializes on having Alpha players.
http://evenews24.com/2016/11/23/new-free-to-play-player-alliance-pancakes-hits-eve-online/ |
Ivory Harcourt
Space Ants Army of New Eden
49
|
Posted - 2017.04.06 15:26:02 -
[29] - Quote
Caide Roth wrote:Kinda dont like how everyone is saying find players to team up with, in general id prefer to be solo pirating but from all the feedback so far it seems like the only way people play this game is by teaming up with each other and ganking single targets which I guess has some fun to it but doesnt give the satisfaction of raiding alone kinda how a player would KS in league of legends.
OK so many people already said it but I will reiterate two EXTREMELY important facts here.
First. you CAN solo play the game. You can utterly forget about communicating with other players, learning from them in good or bad way, having fun on comms together, you can be a lone wolf absolutely without any problems. This also means that at the beginning you will fail A LOT, simply because, as was pointed out, you don't quite know how the mechanics of different security systems work, how fast the players would response to your threat or which ships are defenseless. All these things can be learned and there is a lot of solo players who learned them on their own.
The reason why majority of people would try to push newbies into corporations is that newbies coming from other games are simply not used to the fact that corporations CAN BE actually useful.
However, all of this is valid ONLY if you want to play EVE. It doesn't look like you want to play EVE, it seems that you want to play League of Legends in EVE environment, which absolutely doesn't make sense. It's the same thing as if you want to play League of Legends in Solitaire or Minesweeper. It doesn't make sense.
So, to sum it up: you can indeed be f2p pirate/ganker in high/low/null, providing you understand you're playing EVE Online, a game that is completely different from what you've played so far. If you insist on playing LoL in space, you will fail no matter what you want to do, no matter if you're alone or in a corp. And if you think you will PWN ZOMGLOLOLZ without any research whatsoever then you're also wrong.
Hope that helps :) |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2756
|
Posted - 2017.04.06 23:04:36 -
[30] - Quote
Nikea Tiber wrote:Caide Roth wrote:[quote=Dark Lord Trump]
What about frigates and mining vessels, looting ships, etc how I was thinking was that since you need to fit your ship with mining equipment/ exploration stuff that leaves little room for weapons, arent those the easier targets to kill solo?
Kinda like in AC4: Black Flag, the bigger ships always had the better goods on it but since it needed all the room to carry those goods they had little to no firepower to defend themselves. Do yourself a favor and don't think of eve in terms of other games, comparisons fail miserably. Solo in eve will leave you disappointed; find and join a corp. solo is some of the best content in eve, That said it requires good piloting and knowledge of most mechanics so it can be rather intensive to get into.
suitonia kicks butt with alpha kestrals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taBLj42gytU
I'm not sure what other frigs work well with alpha but I would assume most of the popular ones would, also you have access to destroyers and cruisers.
selling officer BCUs! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6872141
@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |