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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.01.02 23:18:00 -
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There were many witnesses that can collaborate on what happened during the even. Just as Jera has explained as the ceremony was about to begin various elements committed hostile action. Jera was attacked for no good reason. Soon after the attacker was dealt with and cargo secured.
Not to mention the repeated inflammatory interruptions in various chat channels. The ceremony had to be restarted due to constant disrespectful commends made by non caldari members.
No doubt gallente will claim ignorance as they have for all of their previous atrocities. What occurred today was a blatant show of disrespect by the gallente populous. To attack and interfere with a peaceful ceremonial vigil is just beyond all lows.
Today many caldari captains saw first hand that gallente can not and should not be treated as allies. They have encroached on the very beliefs and traditions that make caldari the great peoples they are today.
It is time for the caldari people to demonstrate that we have not forgotten the gallente crimes and that we are willing to defend our way of life. The war is coming, get ready to quench your thirst for revenge. Gallente Federation will pay dearly for their past and present actions.
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.01.02 23:57:00 -
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Obviously there were comments made by both side but I was referring to the interruptions during the actual ceremony. What happened before or after is another story all together. As for the "traitor" comment it was direct at a member that put his own needs ahead of the caldari state and as such deserved it. The Caldari State is based on dedicated services to the mega corporations and state needs.
As for the gallente lovers out there surely after this unprovoked attack they will see the gallente for the scum they are. 
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.01.03 02:31:00 -
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The so called peace offerings were in fact a feeble attempt to brain wash the visitors. It is a well known fact that quafe has been linked to mental retardation and also damages dna. Many attempts were made to push this "drink" on to the innocent visitors. However well informed caldari citizens quickly caught on to the evil plot. All the containers were quickly destroyed before they could damage caldari citizens.
The gallente may find that their propaganda peddling will not sway the ever alert and informed caldaris.
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.01.03 13:42:00 -
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Let me get this right, you think that your word of peace can somehow make up for the millions of innocent caldari that died? Pure hypocritical gallente as usual, we all know the gallente are good spin doctors but we will not be tricked. If you were serious about peace you would immediately return caldari prime along with monetary compensations to all the family members that perished in that cowardly attack. People responsible for that massacre must also be handed over to face caldari justice.
When you willing to concede the above then maybe we will think about sparing the gallente. Unlike the gallente we have long memories.
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.01.04 01:48:00 -
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Edited by: Pojo on 04/01/2004 01:55:50
Edited by: Pojo on 04/01/2004 01:49:39
Raudka yes I think millions of dead gallente will make up for it. Your assumption that millions of caldari will die is flawed and at best wishful thinking. The current war readiness of each state clearly shows that the Caldari are far better equipped and trained for immediate combat. Its no secret that all the Gallente want is to buy more time with their worthless words.
Ada Isdead your version of the story sounds strangely fake. You didn't offer help or contact anyone before you approached the can. The rest of the people were sitting back in defensive positions in case another assault was about to take place. You were contacted when we noticed that you took strange interest in the loot.
I think its fair to say that when you just been attacked by "assumed gallente" and one was hanging around the loot killing you was justified. It also looked like the missiles hit you and not the can. That little can would not survive missile attack if it was the target. You may also notice that no police showed up to take revenge for your death. Which indicates that in fact you were likely the initial aggressor. Jera asked many of us to gang up before he arrived at the ceremony.
In any case whether you were the aggressor or just a poor gallente at the wrong place at the wrong time its done and no one regrets any of it.
Omber Zombie again as we both agree words will never make things right. I only asked for your corps to see how serious you were about making peace. Getting a corps is easy and you didn't even want to make such a simple gesture. I think your refusal to give me one crappy corps speaks volumes about your lack of commitment to your own words.
Being Caldari I will never understand how anyone can abandon their peoples and become something else. Such betrayal shows your lack of moral strength and lack of commitment. You certainly not a Caldari therefore you condolences mean very little when it comes right down to it.
You may not understand the way of Caldari and that's why loyalty and dedication may even scare you. Of course there is nothing I can do to salvage you as member of any society. I guess its true that people fear what they don't understand.
I think its safe to say that I have support of many other Caldari and I do represent at least part of the population. Just how big this part is we may never know as no total numbers of Caldari is known. If you would read up on Caldari you would know that we don't have a government to speak of. As a corporation I demand that my conditions be met by the gallente people and the federation government. Everyone is well aware that the fed government is corrupt there for its up to the gallente people to pressure them into compliance.
My demands were made in the open to avoid being filtered by the federal government propaganda machine. Just maybe if the gallente people will learn of their atrocities they may wish to overthrow their current government and set things right. Until that happens anyone supporting the current fed government are supporting their actions.
If being true to your Caldari heritage and way of life is being "delusional" then I will gladly accept such criticism. Enough talk and delays its time to fill some gallente graves with fresh tenants.
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.01.04 14:22:00 -
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This I know for a fact. The can was a standard jettisoned can and it survived the attack for some reason. I picked up the 3 dbs that were in there after that it promptly blew up again proving that it was just a standard can.
The following are theories based on the evidence we have. Your lack of security hit seems to be a bug in the concord system. It was later compounded by their failure to react to your destruction. What exactly happened is unclear and concord refuse to provide me with an explanation. Clearly there were multiple failures on concords part and this embarrassing performance they will never reveal.
I myself have searched all my records seeking to find the truth about what really happened. However for some reason all local logs were never made available to me. All other logs are accounted for but the local was missing. I have took the liberty of contacting some of the other attendees and they also report a missing local log. After additional investigation into the even it has become painfully clear what occurred. Third party sources have uncovered a document indicating that a large sum of money was transferred from the gallente federation into concord accounts prior to the even. We can only speculate that in return concord was to turn a blind eye to the event and would destroyed all evidence of the actions that took place.
Unless someone can produce undistorted log evidence of the event in question I see no reason to change our initial conclusions. The fact of the matter is that gallente aggressors have attacked our ceremony. Considerable effort was put forth to interrupt the memorial service in a multiple other ways. The gallente left the caldari state and people with no choice but to remove the gallente threat ones and for all.
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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