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Bodhisattvas
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.05.07 15:18:00 -
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Tell me how does one get on this list ? 
Is there a waiting list or ? 
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Viscount Hood
UK Corp
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.08 12:28:00 -
[32]
its a pvp game man.
why should you have complete safety to conduct your business in a pvp game.
fair dues goes to someone who can be bothered to probe you out in the first place.
make your own private list by all means, but really what is the point?
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.08 12:54:00 -
[33]
Sadly, I'm not on the list, since I don't salvage wrecks. Instead, I tend to destroy the mission runner's ships and pod them as often as possible. 
Because I said so...
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.05.08 12:59:00 -
[34]
Put my name on your list.
I popped some poor saps Harb just before DT yesterday, he seemed to think the loot I stole should cover my ransom demand. Oh dear.
Have you TRIED probing for mission runners who are in Dedspace?
OP is making out it is some easy thing, like one click, bingo. Wrong. So very very wrong wrong wrongitty wrong.
Try it, before you complain about it.
Yes I am a dirty thieving grieving all singing all dancing rootin' tootin' shootin' mission runner nightmare. I also do Video Poker.
I could tell you a few "tricks" you could employ to reduce the chance of YOU being probed in YOUR missions, but seriously, why would I? The best way to decrease the chances of being mission probed is to learn mission probing, and see the weaknesses for yourself.
The thing in favour about mission probing is that if you go to some L4 hub (if you can find one without Rice Farmers) the only reason you can get a quick* result on a runner is that the market is completely saturated with fat bloated Ravens & Domis. All clammering for a piece of the infinitely sized cake that is Eve Missions(tm)
"The bestest cake in space with unlimited icing, now made with 10% more love than the next leading cake!" *jingle*
*The word quick is used figuratively and imaginatively, and not intended to describe any period of time involved in finding a mission runner. Which might not even occur even if you spend all weekend at it.
Eve: Cheats prosper. |
Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2007.05.08 20:29:00 -
[35]
It's not an exploit and it's not theft. Nobody owns salvage.
Better add the whole of Ironfleet to the list, this is a big and fun part of our gameplay!
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Ironfleet.com
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Jane Salva
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Posted - 2007.05.08 20:42:00 -
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Why is this an exploit me wonders?? They changed the fact that they do not need to loot the wreck to be able to salvage it, this makes sense does it not? I mean a wreck is a pile of old iron and other material for a ship and loot is in a container floating in between the iron and you should be able to salvage around it therefor not needed to loot before salvage. So where is the exploit? I agree if you hate it salvage it yourself before some1 else does or blow them up not giving them a chance of doing so.
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Kirex
Gallente
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.09 03:53:00 -
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I agree, whats the point of this list?
If I do missions, I'm not going to do a background check with everyone in local because they MIGHT steal my loot.
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.09 08:10:00 -
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the original poster hasnt read the devblogs when they have stated this is actually a game implementation that they have put in . They even encourage it as a mini profession.
So the whole crying exploit thing is invalid
I notice you are not in player corp where u can have corp mate assist u in collecting loot before ninja salvagers ( CCPs name for us) as a mini profession.
I dont take mission objectives however ( that can be petitioned) but they will only reset the mission afaik my objective is profit within the game rules. And that is what i do
I do sometimes grab some loot if its vaulable enough but most of the time the loot is worthless the salvage is worth more so please please make sure u are aware of the facts before u post however as i can point ot numerous developer posts where they stated this is what they were putting in. Not the other way round
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Lux Simian
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Posted - 2007.05.09 16:49:00 -
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When people salavge my wrecks in Asteroid fields they kick off the aggro flasher.
Why would it be different in missions?
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.09 17:14:00 -
[40]
 Originally by: Lux Simian
When people salavge my wrecks in Asteroid fields they kick off the aggro flasher.
Why would it be different in missions?
Negative. Only when they take the loot.
Salvage is free and doesnt flag you. AND you can salvage without looting too, which is pure hawtness.
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Dionisius
Gallente
Ordem dos Templarios
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.09 18:31:00 -
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And carebears should get robbed even more often, oh yeh blacklist me, just to make you wake up and smell the roses.
Piracy rockzzz! o/ o/ o/
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What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.09 23:09:00 -
[42]
aye looting flags salvaging doesnt but when u salvage u leave a can anyway so its really null invoid its a midly profitable way to live
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Tyas Duskchaser
Gallente
Ardent Towing and Demolition
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Posted - 2007.05.11 18:54:00 -
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I circulate through the asteroid fields salvaging in my destroyer every once in a while. I had one guy get so po'd he chased me down and tried to pop me. A hint for you guys that want to do that: Don't try it while your target is sitting at the stargate trying to decide where he's going next. Your cruiser won't last very long that way.
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.11 20:06:00 -
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i take a corpmate ( having been suicided several times a week) the mission runners actually are carrying the high end factional and officer gear, i get blown up , their domis megas and ravens go pop corp mate scoops up rigs and factional gear and docks thats where the real ISK is at
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.11 20:13:00 -
[45]
you can add my name to the list
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Krall Hoar
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Posted - 2007.11.18 15:14:00 -
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So we all agree that internation seerights say "The wrecks belong to the owner".
So regarding to that everyone would be free to salvage any wreck he finds, how ever he did to manage that.
But internation seerights say also "Who found a wreck owns it"
In many cases a court has to decide who is the new or old owner of the wreck. Like the german Graf Zeppelin, getting back in german hands. BUt as you all know treasurehunters, they get a major part of what they found. So in my opinion, if I get back to my loot, I instantly find (my) wrecks to, so they are mine. So if any salvagor arrives after me, and salvages what I found before, then he's stealing.
So in my opinion, wreck salvaging should be handled like looting.
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Tauranon
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.18 15:45:00 -
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If you are a serious level 4 mission runner, you have ample cash, and 5.0 standing, which means standing hits aren't a problem.
Buy destroyer. PVP/gank fit (t1). See wreck thief in your mission. Fetch destroyer. Gank loot thief. Pod back to base when concord has finished with you, and grab a ship to loot thieves ship, which there is of course a fair chance it will still have your *ahem* err anyones salvage in it...
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.18 16:02:00 -
[48]
necrowhine: better with age
Originally by: Cecil Montague
They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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ThaDollaGenerale
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2007.11.19 02:18:00 -
[49]
you can't really stop corp thieves. but you can try to put a stop to such exploits. All i'm trying to do is to alert everyone who reads this forum to be aware of such thieves. You do not have to 'trust' a person in the event of a corp thief. so ppl can't abuse ur 'trust'.
NOT AN EXPLOIT
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Feyran Loa'thin
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Posted - 2007.11.19 08:01:00 -
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well nothing to cry about really, you're getting given a prepackaged solution. pretty soon mission battleships are coming out with 4 empty highslots and an expanded cargohold for mission runner to salvage/loot as the go along. so really there's no need for this thread :)
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DarthMopp
Gallente
I.D.I.O.T.
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Posted - 2007.11.19 08:12:00 -
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Oh well...wait for the new Tech3 BS...as far as i have seen the Kronos gives a bonus on tractor beam and there are some spots for the salvager (not to forget the big cargo space). The new Marauders will be the Christmas present for all the mission runners :D
So you can do all the mission things once. Fight, Loot, Salvage.
And by the way...stealing the salvage is not an exploit...not at all.
"Alea iacta est"
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DarthMopp
Gallente
I.D.I.O.T.
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Posted - 2007.11.19 10:59:00 -
[52]
Originally by: DarthMopp
Oh well...wait for the new Tech3 BS...as far as i have seen the Kronos gives a bonus on tractor beam and there are some spots for the salvager (not to forget the big cargo space). The new Marauders will be the Christmas present for all the mission runners :D
So you can do all the mission things once. Fight, Loot, Salvage.
And by the way...stealing the salvage is not an exploit...not at all.
Edit.: Which are actually Tech2 BS...wheeeee...
"Alea iacta est"
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Raneru
Darwin With Attitude
oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.11.19 12:46:00 -
[53]
People actually salvage all their misson wrecks? Some people have far too much time on their hands
You can have my salvage, I just wanna get the mission done, get the standing/lp/isk and go pvp 
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.19 19:07:00 -
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This guy MirrorGod, if he wasn't -10, would be probing you out right now and stealing all your phat loots. He's a real jerk.
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Joe Orton
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Posted - 2007.11.20 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sarrian Calda
Definition: Players who uses probes to pin-point locations of possible mission runners, they probably have been observing you for some time or they are experienced in finding possible mission runners. When they've found out your location and able to determine what kind of mission you're doing, they'll warp to you. Then they'll salvage/loot your wrecks.
If you're running a multi-room mission, the Mission Thief can salvage all of your wrecks without you knowing it. Since wrecks can now be salvaged without the need for removing the loot within, the Thief will not aggro the mission runner. I would wanna say something to CCP about leaving this possible exploit, but this is not the place to do it. Anyway, players who saw this exploit have been probing for mission runners and warping to their rooms to salvage the wrecks. The mission runner cannot do anything since the thief did not touch the loots, and there goes all the valuable salvaged materials.
I'm not sure if this thread has been started elsewhere, but I'm gonna do it here. If you find any mission thieves, report him here for black-listing. Include the ship type, ship name, and if the thief have cloaking device on it (most prolly the thief would use a cloaker).
This is quite a serious exploit as a really dare-devil thief could warp on top of you while you're in the heat of a mission, steal your mission objective item and run away with it, causing you to fail in your mission objective should he be able to run (or even if you caught and destroyed his ship, you may blow up your objective item as well).
Please go and whine on your own webspace, Forum members are not your personal army.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.20 01:18:00 -
[56]
Nice necro. I can see that this list reeks of fail given that it only has one person in the list.
Shows the infinite success of stamp collecting, I mean list making.
We almost won.
[ 2007.11.17 08:26:19 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 150mm Railgun II places an excellent hit on Shrike [EVOL]<BOB>(Avatar), inflicting 41.4 damage. |
TD Dude
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Posted - 2007.11.21 20:58:00 -
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I think it should be handled just like looting, then you can be shot. If you did not kill it then technically it isn't yours. So if you are too lazy to run your own missions or think it is fun to probe out a mission runner, well perhaps you need to go to low sec and do something there.
I find can stealers annoying as well. Guess they really want a fight, but then why do they run? Some also do it just trying to get you smoked by the cops.#
Anyway if these savlagers really want excitement, then they should welcome the 15 minutes of red.....or.....
I would not call it an exploit, but simply something that needs a minor change...you salvage and you are a target "not concord" just player.
The only real expoit is the multi room ones, as stated before you could be in the second or third room and someone getting your stuff in an earlier room. Even flashy red does not help, since you would need to warp out and warp back to get to first entry gate...which by then is most likley too late....
So not whining, just want fair play, you take mine then I should be able to shoot your ass, and dont think I wont have a scram and web on board.....:-)
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