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Sarrian Calda
Caldari
White Star Corporation
Gemini Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:02:00 -
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Definition: Players who uses probes to pin-point locations of possible mission runners, they probably have been observing you for some time or they are experienced in finding possible mission runners. When they've found out your location and able to determine what kind of mission you're doing, they'll warp to you. Then they'll salvage/loot your wrecks.
If you're running a multi-room mission, the Mission Thief can salvage all of your wrecks without you knowing it. Since wrecks can now be salvaged without the need for removing the loot within, the Thief will not aggro the mission runner. I would wanna say something to CCP about leaving this possible exploit, but this is not the place to do it. Anyway, players who saw this exploit have been probing for mission runners and warping to their rooms to salvage the wrecks. The mission runner cannot do anything since the thief did not touch the loots, and there goes all the valuable salvaged materials.
I'm not sure if this thread has been started elsewhere, but I'm gonna do it here. If you find any mission thieves, report him here for black-listing. Include the ship type, ship name, and if the thief have cloaking device on it (most prolly the thief would use a cloaker).
This is quite a serious exploit as a really dare-devil thief could warp on top of you while you're in the heat of a mission, steal your mission objective item and run away with it, causing you to fail in your mission objective should he be able to run (or even if you caught and destroyed his ship, you may blow up your objective item as well). |
Templer Relleg
Exit 13
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:07:00 -
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People have lists with corp thiefs. Yet theres always corps being robbed.
What does this tell me? That these kinds of lists doesnt work.
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Sarrian Calda
Caldari
White Star Corporation
Gemini Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:11:00 -
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So far this is the first thief that I actually encountered. He warped right on top of me when I was still at the first gate. Lucky I was chatting with my corp mates and delayed my activation of the acceleration gate to the next room, and caught this thief red-handed. He warped to me and upon seeing me there, immediately cloaked. I tried to convo him to seek his intention, but i guess he's guilty and blocked me instead. He didn't even clarify his intentions. So it's fairly obvious what he is doing. This happened at a mission hotspot: Motsu. So I ask all Motsu mission runners to be careful and watchful of your mission space. If you want your loots and wrecks, put these thieves to a stop, if at all possible. (Petitions, jet-can traps, etc etc.)
This thief is by the name of  Son Bonobou. He was last seen in a cloaking Heron (Caldari Frigate) by the ship name of "The Bat". Of course ship names can be changed easily, but if he forget to change it, you'll be able to pick up his ship within your innate ship system scanner's range. If he's within your limited scanning range, you might wanna loop back to first gate and check your wrecks and loots. Also, watching your local for anyone who suddenly turned red to you (that red-skull that denotes an aggro, much like how an ore thief would appear to the miner). He may be messing with your wrecks. |
Sarrian Calda
Caldari
White Star Corporation
Gemini Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:14:00 -
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you can't really stop corp thieves. but you can try to put a stop to such exploits. All i'm trying to do is to alert everyone who reads this forum to be aware of such thieves. You do not have to 'trust' a person in the event of a corp thief. so ppl can't abuse ur 'trust'. |
Requiescat
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:15:00 -
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What's the point?
Anyone could become a wreck thief at any point, and anyone who was formerly a wreck thief may choose a different profession. Same thing with ore thieving, same thing with can flipping, same thing with every possible activity in EVE. Why pigeonhole? It only makes you look stupid, and worse yet reacting like this gives the impression of one who is undeniably butt hurt. 
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I turned off "show corp/alliance" because, to be frank, I'm ashamed of them. They'll be turned back on when I'm somewhere more suitable for someone of my talents. |
Pudgy d'Noob
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Pudgy d''Noob on 05/05/2007 18:21:06
You are a genius. Posting stuff like this just encourages more people to engage in this type of theft. Your reaction shows how easily irritated you become and makes you a specific target to people. You even told the entire EVE community where to come and grief you.
If you want the salvage material, then salvage as you go. Don't expect to leave wrecks laying around and still be able to come back and salvage them. They are wrecks.... Space garbage. People make a living cleaning them up - maybe Concord should charge you a fine for leaving all those wrecks laying around?
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Leon Caedo
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:29:00 -
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 Quote:
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
SOME MEANY STOLE MY LOOT!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Seriously, grow up. There are much worse things in this game than this.
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Kramer Verone
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:41:00 -
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oh my, i'm going to become a mission thief. free isk
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Menod Penter
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:50:00 -
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Please add my name to your Blacklist.
Have a Nice Day :)
Menod Penter - Mayor of Rens
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Sarrian Calda
Caldari
White Star Corporation
Gemini Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:52:00 -
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So this is what I get for pointing this out? |
Lavinrac Krad
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:57:00 -
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Wait? I won't get aggro'ed if I salvage another person's wreck, so no count down timer?
What the hell am I doing mining scordite? Thanks OP! (Not gonna steal from mission runners, but I will clean up the free floating wrecks in High sec belts/complexes)
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Menod Penter
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.05 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sarrian Calda
So this is what I get for pointing this out?
Yes !
Have a Nice Day :)
Menod Penter - Mayor of Rens
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JSO Milic
JSO Intel
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:03:00 -
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You are best off joining the local "mission runners" intel channel. Advise your peers of the incident and leave it at that. Fly safe
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Sarrian Calda
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:03:00 -
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Lol you guys make me laugh. You act all mature yet the first few replies seem to make you sound like you're even more irritated with me than i'm irritated with the thieves. C'mon. Grow up you guys. There's so many people out there doing this trick. So i'm no letting those guys exploit this forever. New of this have already gotten out, prolly just not in the forums yet. It will be in the forums sooner or later. So I shouldn't spare those thieves any pleasure for exploiting this.
Things that need to be done, will be done. Grow up. |
kwon boa
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:44:00 -
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Its not an exploit. Sounds like a new job. I will track you down and help you clean up ur wrecks. FLy safe.
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Priest Valour
Amarr
Ramdon Industries corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: Priest Valour on 05/05/2007 21:39:48
Exploit pfft pepole are to busy throwing about this word I think its lost its true meaning. Ever thought the Dev's may have made this intentional ? 
EDIT Just for clarification I don't do this, but everytime I hear the word exploit I just wonder/worry and the crys for it to be 'fixed' will end up taking another little bit of fun and adventure out of EVE.
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Stakhanov
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.05.05 22:41:00 -
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There's a solution to your problem : do missions in lowsec. There , you will be able to shoot those filthy wreck thieves without concord intervention.
Of course they are usually scared of this possibility , so they don't do it much in lowsec. When they try , you can easily scare them away. They'll most likely run the second you start shooting them. Sometimes they will try to loot wrecks out of your range - so stay around the warp-in point to be sure to decloak and catch them the moment they come.
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Mr Linderman
Selective Extinction
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Posted - 2007.05.05 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
There's a solution to your problem : do missions in lowsec. There , you will be able to shoot those filthy wreck thieves without concord intervention.
Of course they are usually scared of this possibility , so they don't do it much in lowsec. When they try , you can easily scare them away. They'll most likely run the second you start shooting them. Sometimes they will try to loot wrecks out of your range - so stay around the warp-in point to be sure to decloak and catch them the moment they come.
Most people who probe mission runners in low-sec are not there to steal wrecks but make a new one
Mr L
www.eve-services.com - The only place to Shop for services
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Agent Li
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Posted - 2007.05.06 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sarrian Calda
Lol you guys make me laugh. You act all mature yet the first few replies seem to make you sound like you're even more irritated with me than i'm irritated with the thieves. C'mon. Grow up you guys. There's so many people out there doing this trick. So i'm no letting those guys exploit this forever. New of this have already gotten out, prolly just not in the forums yet. It will be in the forums sooner or later. So I shouldn't spare those thieves any pleasure for exploiting this.
Things that need to be done, will be done. Grow up.
It's been in the forums for a while now. You're rather late to the party.
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Cain Bloodlust
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Posted - 2007.05.06 18:14:00 -
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So what happens to someone who is put on this list? You can't keep them from buying your stuff, you cant know its them you are about to buy from, they dont give a flying hoot about any social ostricising, and by the time any of them change to be carebears and are interested in joining you lot for some good high sec missions, it will be long forgotten.
I'm afraid your only option is to mission in low sec, where nobody will try to steal any of your wrecks.
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Mazare Mircea
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.05.06 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 06/05/2007 18:47:11
I'd like to add someone to this list if you don't mind.
Scumbag thief's name is Mazare Mircea; he will probe your mission spots in some of the major mission hubs, warp in and salvage your wrecks.
PS: He will accept a payment of 1 mil isk / mission so you will be left alone.
LE: He will motivate his actions by way of his BIO.
Do not be fooled !
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heheheh
Singularity.
The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.05.06 19:02:00 -
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HeHeHeH is also a thief,
I have and will enter your mission and take your stuff.
I also advise all other people that can use probes to try this out also.
It makes me quite a bit if i manage to track them down, If your lucky, you might be able to find the actual mission loot as well, you can then ransom it to the mission runner.
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Zhett Haukes
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.05.06 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
There's a solution to your problem : do missions in lowsec. There , you will be able to shoot those filthy wreck thieves without concord intervention.
Of course they are usually scared of this possibility , so they don't do it much in lowsec. When they try , you can easily scare them away. They'll most likely run the second you start shooting them. Sometimes they will try to loot wrecks out of your range - so stay around the warp-in point to be sure to decloak and catch them the moment they come.
I second this fine post, the best (and possibly only!) way of stopping this happening to you is to run missions in lowsec, definatly, yes...
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Galan Amarias
Amarr
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.07 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sarrian Calda
So this is what I get for pointing this out?
Yeah pretty much. Actually it was pointed out to me about a week ago by a guy bragging about how he was doing it. Personally I don't think the ISK would be worth it but I haven't spent much time with probes and whatnot..
Still you did just tell all the folks who like getting a rise out of bears where to find you and what to do.
Stick arround, read a few more posts, realize that this isn't an exploit but a valid game mechanic at work. Loot is there for everyone. Also before you ask for flagging, remember the ore thieves have way more fun with that rule than the miners.
-Galan
Combat is fun, shoot someone every chance you get.
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Arvald
Caldari
Lost Souls Inc
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.05.07 07:30:00 -
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well looks like yer gona have to add me to yer blacklist oh and also on a side note if ya dont want pepole stealin yer crap then dont leave the wrecks layin about
my veiws and opinions are my own and not those of my corp alliance and so on and so forth and if you take anything i say lieraly.....then your an idiot
Usin redneck graama sence 2006
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Devian 666
Ocean Dynamics
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.07 07:46:00 -
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The thing that amuses me is that people run their lvl 4 missions in the major mission hubs. Besides the loot thieves you also have the lag from all the other mission runners. Find a new npc corp to run missions for in another system, problem solved.
Action speaks louder than whining (except to CCP).
"If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground" |
Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.07 07:47:00 -
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I have been running missions for the last few weeks and I have never encountered this problem.
Oh wait! I am working for Serpentis!
GTFO of empire oh long suffering mission runners. Working missions in 0.0 means never having to deal with these griefers.(Instead there are whole other groups of griefers).
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Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.05.07 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sarrian Calda
So this is what I get for pointing this out?
Yes. And I am afraid that you deserved every bit of it.
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Lubomir Penev
Gallente
Dark Nexxus
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sarrian Calda
If you're running a multi-room mission, the Mission Thief can salvage all of your wrecks without you knowing it. Since wrecks can now be salvaged without the need for removing the loot within, the Thief will not aggro the mission runner.
When I do it I make a point to get aggro from the mission runner. Getting shot is even the sole goal of the thing. I can run mission faster than most of the people I manage to pinpoint, when I'm probbing people in highsec I'm after a bit of consensual PvP frankly you really think your loot and salvage is so valuable?
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Darcy Killar
Gallente
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 14:11:00 -
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Seems to me I said something about probeing high sec mission runners a while back and everyone thought it was dumb idea. But I knew it would **** someone off! 
About me!
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