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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.05.06 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean Force Recons have gone right up, possibly because CovOps cloaks have fallen from 70mil to 20mil.
Don't really know why though, I don't see why Recons are being invented less than HACs or CBCs.
Recons aren't nearly as popular and aren't used as much.
And if you think they're used a lot now, wait until CCP finally gives us a T1 cov-ops cloak. Not sure what sort of penalty they'd give it, but it wouldn't matter, you'd suddenly be able to use a cov-ops frig without spending several times the ship's cost on a single must-have mod for it.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.05.06 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Barker is it too late to sell all of my tech2 BPOs?
Convo me ingame, we'll talk your BPOs and what I might pay for em.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.05.06 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kodiak31415 Invention has driven the price down. But the cost of production on a researched t2 bpo is much less than that on the BPC's made by invention. I would say that invention is working exactly as planned. Good move CCP.
As far as T3, it's called faction loot and its already here. Maybe CCP could put faction loot on the market, maybe in a special section or give them special marks to ID them easily?
You, like many others, make the fatal error of thinking T3 is just another boost in power.
CCP has mentioned that T3 involves things like heat, and tweaking your ship mods. Unless they throw that away for a cheap 'bigger and better' level of player-made mods given via a bad system, chill.
Personally think we should just jump ahead to T4.
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Lygos
Amarr Insane Asylum
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Posted - 2007.05.06 05:10:00 -
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Bring on the T2 wars please.
You CAN stop that person undercutting you merely by conspiring to blow up his Lab POSes. The extra profits you make can go to hiring on mercs to defend your own POSes, and pirates to shut down the up and coming competition.
Need yet another incentive? The more lab-pos you blow up, the cheaper datacores get.
CCP, please bring all BPO manufacturing to at least partial reliance on the invention system. We needs more war.
--- Articio > Well, at least I don't have to grind back security status.
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Veto1024
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Posted - 2007.05.06 05:31:00 -
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Don't you just love how people made threads complaining invention, even after the patch, wasn't going to do anything 
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Joebarchuck
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.06 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist
Originally by: Joebarchuck I've seen during the last 3 month, prices of many tech II drop so much, it divided the price by 6 for some.
Example: Tech II heavy launchers went from 12 million to barely 3.8 million now in less than 3 month.
This is just one of the dozens of items that dropped drastically and on these forums people speak of inflation... WHAT INFLATION???
Is there a reason for these price drops? Can it go back up again or will it just continue to drop? Just looking for opinions here.
Before you open your mouth and make youself like an idiot. Look up the definition of inflation.
I am still amazed at the idiots writing comments here.
Inflation is just as the definition in the comment after your stupid post. Meaning for the T2 and T1 mods there is no inflation which is what I was talking about. It is the same with Raven Navy Issue and many other Navy Issue ships which prices have been dropping.
There is no inflation on the Eve market except for certain section of it like minerals and certain base materials but for the initial user, prices just go down.
So before opening your enormous mouth to write horrible things and make yourself the king of idiots, think, bark and realize that you need more than a dog IQ to play Eve.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.05.06 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Namingway
Originally by: Kodiak31415 As far as T3, it's called faction loot and its already here. Maybe CCP could put faction loot on the market, maybe in a special section or give them special marks to ID them easily?
You, like many others, make the fatal error of thinking T3 is just another boost in power.
Indeed. A t3 module will be able to accept sort of rigs which you can plug into the module. For example take a gun. You want more firepower? Okay, plug a special rig into your t3 gun and you have more firepower...but there will be a drawback, for example the gun might fire slower, or it might use up more cpu and power etc.
T3 won't be the next officer-like modules. Instead they will allow you to configure your modules a bit more flexible, just like the current ships with the current rigs.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.05.06 07:17:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/05/2007 07:14:42 Invention seem to have fixed the extreme T2 prices. So congratulations to ccp for coming up with something that worked. It did take too long though... some people seem to have made so much money from it its almost unreal.
I hate the idea of having a lottery for the best items in the game. Personally I think it would be much better if these items were the reward for some really difficult things in the game, not just blind luck.
The advantage of a lottery is that a 1 day old newbie has a chance of getting a t2/t3 bpo, but I dont know if thats a good thing or not...
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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2007.05.06 07:23:00 -
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FINALLY.
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PuncherDavis
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Posted - 2007.05.06 16:15:00 -
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Ever notice that the people that whine about prices going down are the ones that can no longer control their particular market. Last I checked the list of things to sell and do in eve are huge. I market and sell ships. If I see the market for a ship dropping I look for an undersaturated part of eve and sell in those areas.
Eventually the prices will catch up but by that time I have organized different planning to sell new of different products in other regions.
Tech 2 is now flattening out due to more supply to fit the demand. The cost for tech two is still far above the base tech one equipment so is still out of range for new people and broke people. I do think that the HULK being at the 200 million range is far more reasonable then the 550million it sold for..Tech 2 may state that higher prices are needed but by gouging the market over and over the initial sellers are the ones who brought the market change on themselves by thier own actions.
In summation get over it and learn to sell more products and make more money over a wider base of economics.
The one item gold mine seems to have died
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Joebarchuck
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.06 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: PuncherDavis Ever notice that the people that whine about prices going down are the ones that can no longer control their particular market. Last I checked the list of things to sell and do in eve are huge. I market and sell ships. If I see the market for a ship dropping I look for an undersaturated part of eve and sell in those areas.
Eventually the prices will catch up but by that time I have organized different planning to sell new of different products in other regions.
Tech 2 is now flattening out due to more supply to fit the demand. The cost for tech two is still far above the base tech one equipment so is still out of range for new people and broke people. I do think that the HULK being at the 200 million range is far more reasonable then the 550million it sold for..Tech 2 may state that higher prices are needed but by gouging the market over and over the initial sellers are the ones who brought the market change on themselves by thier own actions.
In summation get over it and learn to sell more products and make more money over a wider base of economics.
The one item gold mine seems to have died
No one including me the OP has whined about anything. I do not trade, so I care about low prices not high. I only wanted to make two points:
a. We are ready for Tech III b. There is no inflation in Eve except for certain materials and minerals so people on forums talking about Inflation should just not talk...
Also, if you read the comments following my post every single one of them approves the price drops and the invention system so what whine? Why would you try to talk people down by saying they are complaining about something as we are NOT...
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Linavin
Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.06 17:22:00 -
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Of course theres still inflation, billions upon billions are being dumped into the economy from missions and rats rapidly increasing the isk supply. The tech II prices are not a result from isk deflation, but a huge increase in the supply of the demanded tech II modules. Prices got so high because of an ever growing demand as newer players can use the module as well as rampant speculators buying up an item in multiple regions in order to form what resulted as a trust.
"There is no inflation in Eve except for certain materials and minerals so people on forums talking about Inflation should just not talk..."
That is the inflation right there! CCP's recent changes have provided anyone acess the the Tech II industry without the need for a couple billion isk lying around or getting lucky in the lottery. Tech I ships have decreased in price because of the new drone regions, sending Zydrine to a quarter of its price a year ago. Again caused by a huge supply influx.
Tech III on the other hand is a needless content feature that will only serve to extend the skillpoint gap. It reqires a huge amount of balancing in the concept to avoid stuff like 250 km sniper fleets coming back. CCP still hasn't mentioned what they intend tech III to really do, except that it would be some sort of customization. And just because Tech II is now getting reasonably priced dosen't mean we need Tech III as a another step between Tech II and Faction. Theres no logic there, you've given absolutley no reason why tech II is needed. ---
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Joebarchuck
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.06 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Linavin Of course theres still inflation, billions upon billions are being dumped into the economy from missions and rats rapidly increasing the isk supply. The tech II prices are not a result from isk deflation, but a huge increase in the supply of the demanded tech II modules. Prices got so high because of an ever growing demand as newer players can use the module as well as rampant speculators buying up an item in multiple regions in order to form what resulted as a trust.
"There is no inflation in Eve except for certain materials and minerals so people on forums talking about Inflation should just not talk..."
That is the inflation right there! CCP's recent changes have provided anyone acess the the Tech II industry without the need for a couple billion isk lying around or getting lucky in the lottery. Tech I ships have decreased in price because of the new drone regions, sending Zydrine to a quarter of its price a year ago. Again caused by a huge supply influx.
Tech III on the other hand is a needless content feature that will only serve to extend the skillpoint gap. It reqires a huge amount of balancing in the concept to avoid stuff like 250 km sniper fleets coming back. CCP still hasn't mentioned what they intend tech III to really do, except that it would be some sort of customization. And just because Tech II is now getting reasonably priced dosen't mean we need Tech III as a another step between Tech II and Faction. Theres no logic there, you've given absolutley no reason why tech II is needed.
The Eve economy as a whole has had huge inflationary pressures during the past 2 years. Prices have gone up but invention has changed everything. Tech II prices are now reasonable and Tech I has gone down as low as possible, going lower would not be benificial in anyways for Eve players.
The Billion of Isk brought into the market means nothing. What about the billions lost everyday????? Ships and modules lost cost billions and billions. That is money that is gone forever. Of course money coming in from bounties is necessary. What kind of point are you trying to make there? Just take one side of the equation and leave the other..... Ridiculous....
Yes, we are ready for Tech III as faction modules are not compared to Tech III. You cannot compare the 2. Faction is just great gear for the rich not customizable gear bringing an edge for the mass. THIS IS WHY we are ready for Tech III.
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