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Ciara
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Posted - 2007.05.07 11:44:00 -
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Simple question:
1. My corpmate probes out the mission runner (most likely Raven or Caldari Navy Raven)
2. I warp in and try to blow the mission runner up
Which ship should I take?
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Snodgey2004
Mega Modal M0nkeys
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Posted - 2007.05.07 12:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Ciara
Simple question:
1. My corpmate probes out the mission runner (most likely Raven or Caldari Navy Raven)
2. I warp in and try to blow the mission runner up
Which ship should I take?
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Bosie
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Posted - 2007.05.07 12:18:00 -
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Another Raven once you fit to tank the damage he is dealing and load torps that he is weakest against (check what NPCs he is fighting to know this).
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Energy.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 12:24:00 -
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I'd say a Rook or an RSD Curse. He probably won't have ECCM fitted (unless he's fighting Guristas, make sure you check that) or cap injectors, so he'll be vulnerable to either, and his torps will hit you for minimum damage.
Then again, any HAC will probably suffice, i'd lean towards a Zealot since it does EM.
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Stakhanov
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.05.07 12:25:00 -
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Gank mega ? Well it works for me.
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steveid
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.05.07 12:25:00 -
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probably an arazu. you can hold him indefinately and if you catch him mid mission he wont be able to defend against the rats or you. You got the added advantage of him not apotting you getting in range.
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.07 12:41:00 -
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A battleship is usually too slow getting between gates to be worth using. I like the Arazu/Ishtar combo. Maybe One tackles and damps, one does the damage.
For solo work you can't really beat a command ship.
I don't know how good your skills are but I'd say the best T1 ship to do it in would be a Nos Myrmidon. As long as he's got no cap he'll go down soon enough.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.05.07 13:55:00 -
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Tank-wise, you'll need something that can break his tank and tank his damage. Given that it's a mission-running ship, I would kill his capacitor with nos or neuts to take him out. Either use nos to run an uber tank against his damage or use sensor dampeners to keep his lock range under nos range.
If you catch him tanking npcs, your damage doesn't need to be a priority as long as you kill his capacitor for long enough to get rid of all of his cap charges. However, you'll need to stick around to collect the loot so you'll need to have a decent tank.
An arazu might be a decent choice, but you'd need to remember that you can't cloak near a gas cloud and the beacon at the warp-in point will also decloak you. A lachesis might be a better option, fitted with a good warp disruptor and damps so you can scramble him and call in a nos battleship to take him down.
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Plaetean
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 14:03:00 -
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Nosdomi should work well on a raven, since the tank is reliant on shield boost rather than passive recharge/hp, and you could stick some caldari ecm on there too. Arazu would be good too since although they have poor dps and it might take a while, you have the advantage of warp scramming from 40+km and damping.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Hadean Drive Yards
Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.05.07 17:08:00 -
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Armageddon with a 6/2 gun/nos setup.
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slothe
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.07 17:49:00 -
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i found raven with nos , cruise,2 disruptors , afterburner, and jammers with armour tank worked well.
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.05.07 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Plaetean
Nosdomi should work well on a raven, since the tank is reliant on shield boost rather than passive recharge/hp, and you could stick some caldari ecm on there too. Arazu would be good too since although they have poor dps and it might take a while, you have the advantage of warp scramming from 40+km and damping.
Yep, nos dom will kill a gist x cnr no problem, all that you need is average skills and a good cap drain / tank sustain setup.
I dueled a corp m8 in my cnr and snake and he beat both of them, even a max tank setup snake with officer tank and crystals.
Dam they need to nerf it bad :(
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.07 19:53:00 -
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If you're going to solo a faction fit CNR in a mission, then every single one of the above replies is wrong. Convo me in-game or evemail me for a decent setup.
Because I said so...
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.05.07 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
If you're going to solo a faction fit CNR in a mission, then every single one of the above replies is wrong. Convo me in-game or evemail me for a decent setup.
The only wrong replies are ones that might fail.
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DiuxDium
Free Mercenaries Union
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.07 20:13:00 -
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Anything with nos. No need for guns, or drones. Just some nos and a few scrams.
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Relaroka
Gallente
E X O D U S
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Posted - 2007.05.07 22:59:00 -
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I used a domi with 4x heavy nos, ab, t2 disrupt, 3x RSD IIs, standard tank lows.
It'll take a while but even a gisti raven will go down eventually. Generally you want either some serious DPS(like 2k worth) or nos, then you want either a supertank(faction siege fitted raven can output like 800 dps) or just damp it to hell.
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Requiescat
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Posted - 2007.05.07 23:12:00 -
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+1 @ Nos-Domi. Fit a couple Caldari racial jammers (BZ-5s if you can afford them), along with 3 heavy + 1 medium nos, and 2 medium neutralizers. One rep should be enough to tank his damage if you tank to the mission he's running, since he probably won't be carrying any other ammo. Fit an afterburner, since MWD doesn't work in deadspace, and a disruptor, faction if you can get your hands on one.
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Logi3
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.08 11:29:00 -
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Pilgrim
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.08 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: murder one
If you're going to solo a faction fit CNR in a mission, then every single one of the above replies is wrong. Convo me in-game or evemail me for a decent setup.
The only wrong replies are ones that might fail.
Which is pretty much everyones. Nyphur came close w/ the Lachesis, but even with that you need a very very specialized setup for it to work right.
TBH, technique and tactics is just as important as the ship and fittings.
And anyone flying in a BS to pop a mission runner solo is probably *never* going to even have the chance to lock him down, much less kill them.
Because I said so...
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Tommy Vercetti
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.08 14:12:00 -
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Maybe an Eos or Sleipnir?
Either way I'd be looking at a command ship for solo work if ur looking at a non bs option.
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TheJacko
Gallente
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 14:47:00 -
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Deimos just orbit the raven at 500m and his torps or cruise do crappy damage :P
if not deimos astarte ;)
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.05.08 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: TheJacko
Deimos just orbit the raven at 500m and his torps or cruise do crappy damage :P
if not deimos astarte ;)
most ravens have 1 or 2 nos :-)
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.05.08 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Nyphur came close w/ the Lachesis, but even with that you need a very very specialized setup for it to work right.
Domination disruptor sensor-boosted Lachesis and an Eos with the EW range gang mod?
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Kiyirari
Retribution Corp.
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Posted - 2007.05.08 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ciara
Simple question:
1. My corpmate probes out the mission runner (most likely Raven or Caldari Navy Raven)
2. I warp in and try to blow the mission runner up
Which ship should I take?
Yes it may appear to be a simple question, but their is quite a bit to think about for the encounter and best choice of ship to use...
As some one stated is the npc rat which your target is tanked agianst and choosing the damage type they are weakest at for wtfbbq, what ever etc etc...
Your mate who scanned down ya bunny will more than likely have a covert ops or recon which would provide a nice warp in point.
As tiller pointed out ony the smart mission grinders pack a nos or 2 
My own choice of ship for the party would be the good ol scorp my reason being...
1. mixed highs off 4/4 missile or guns plus nos - torps for damage type they are weakest agianst and 2 blasters for good measures.
2. 8 mids - scram, web, SB, 2 racial jammers and 3 random EW of choice bearing in mind he may have friends near by 
3. 4 lows - signal distortion thingie, damage control and what ever...
slightly out of the box, but it works...
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:04:00 -
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Nos/Nueter dom with ogre 2's will drop him in 45 seconds.
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Requiescat
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kiyirari
My own choice of ship for the party would be the good ol scorp my reason being...
1. mixed highs off 4/4 missile or guns plus nos - torps for damage type they are weakest agianst and 2 blasters for good measures.
2. 8 mids - scram, web, SB, 2 racial jammers and 3 random EW of choice bearing in mind he may have friends near by
3. 4 lows - signal distortion thingie, damage control and what ever...
slightly out of the box, but it works...
Not really, it doesn't. If he's in any sort of mission, as soon as you pop him the rats will agro you, and if I'm up to scratch on missions, you'll be in a rather large pile of it pretty quick. Not to mention 2 racials isn't enough to permajam a BS, even on a scorp with full ECM mods. 4 or more if you want to nail the coffin shut. Any other ship, I'd suggest a pair of dampers and orbiting outside his lock range, case closed.
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.08 21:27:00 -
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Pilgrim/Curse or pretty much anything in the recon/hac/cs groups. You could probably do it in a regular bc, but I think speed would be an issue. So i'd go with a recon or hac. Shield tanked scorp with 2x target painters, rage torps, and 2 heavy nos/neut w/ rigs would make short order of any CNR.
If you don't think so, get on the test server and fly/pod to amamake. I'll duel ya =p
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Morfane
The IMorral MAjority
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.08 22:34:00 -
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I have done this a lot in high, low, and null sec. I have never failed (once I get a tackle) to kill a CNR outside of highsec with this setup.
Scorpion
4x Siege Launcher II
1x Heavy Unstable Neutralizer
5x Spatial Destablizer II
1x Heavy Cap Injector (best you can fit, tech 2 if possible)
1x 100mn Afterburner II (faction is preferable)
1x Warp Disruptor II
1x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tunsgten
2x Armor Hardener (therm and kin) (tech 1 is fine imo)
1x Reactor Control Unit
Please note I have not tried this setup since the ECM nerf, but with good skills, I don't see that as a problem.
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Miss CJB
Gallente
In White Suits
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Posted - 2007.05.09 00:22:00 -
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i use a damping curse
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Kirex
Gallente
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.09 03:44:00 -
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Will a raven really be able to tank a lv4 AND a gankmega? I don't mission run so I have no idea. :/
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