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Aedaxus Digital Zone Corp 16	Posted - 2017.04.16 13:47:03 - [1] - Quote Just for those loving to see a Charon getting blown up :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyMzYYSLP_4 I almost made it to the spacestation if it wasn't for those meddeling Marmites! :D PS: I'm checking out why the resolution is so low, I imagine fraps doesn't record in 4K also had to fix some sound issues. Next of my ships getting blown up will be in better quality ;)
Keno Skir 1519	Posted - 2017.04.16 14:42:34 - [2] - Quote Why did you give them your pod too? Why were you using a freighter during war? Why was the freighter in corp instead of neutral? Why no docking bookmark? Why not leave in the FULL MINUTE AND A HALF gap between that cynabal undocking and actually starting to approach you? Good vid.. i guess... Black Lanterns Blog <- Read my ramblings -.- 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <---
lmmortalist A-Clinic Curatores Veritatis Alliance 210	Posted - 2017.04.16 15:00:45 - [3] - Quote Not sure what the hell it was I just watched...
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1567	Posted - 2017.04.16 15:19:40 - [4] - Quote lmmortalist wrote: Not sure what the hell it was I just watched... A wardecced antitanked Charon getting blown up by Marmites in their front yard. Guess we're lucky it was antitanked. Sped up things. Remove standings and insurance.
Aedaxus Digital Zone Corp 16	Posted - 2017.04.16 16:50:29 - [5] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: (1)Why did you give them your pod too?(2)Why were you using a freighter during war?(3)Why was the freighter in corp instead of neutral?(4)Why no docking bookmark?(5)Why not leave in the FULL MINUTE AND A HALF gap between that cynabal undocking and actually starting to approach you? (1) I tried to get into the station, it might have been better if I warped out... (2) To transport a bunch of badgers. (3) I have the skills to drive it, it's insured. It's a risk but it's easy. Metagaming with alts is an option too I guess. (4) Good idea, but never been there. (5) That's a good hint there. I was distracted and i'm a casual player. PS: I played eve on and off for around 10 years now. And i'm still noobish but I'm okay with that. At least I like to play the game and don't have to worry. There are other regiosn that require a different mindset. To each their own I guess, all about balance. There is no PVE without PVP and no PVP without PVE. And for those word purists I mean PVP as combat in ships, not underselling at the market :)
Chewytowel Haklar Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 273	Posted - 2017.04.16 18:28:48 - [6] - Quote Sorry you lost your Charon :( And hey if you are having fun who are any of us to argue with you about it? Nothing wrong with being casual btw. I'm not very hardcore myself, but in the least I recommend you try to learn from it.
Nana Skalski Taisaanat Kotei 31506	Posted - 2017.04.16 18:44:15 - [7] - Quote You could have made a courier contract. Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him Osprey =ƒÜÇ GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1175	Posted - 2017.04.16 21:30:50 - [8] - Quote Should have bought a permit Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Sitting Bull Lakota Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 290	Posted - 2017.04.16 22:45:27 - [9] - Quote I recently lost a freighter and 5.2B in collateral to a gank that I new was coming. In retrospect there were several things I could have done to minimize the damage or even beat the scam. Retrospect is useless. Let me raise a beer to your loss, OP, and we'll toast our ability to play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and laugh all the way back to our medical clones. F
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2017.04.16 22:57:19 - [10] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Should have bought a permit Fyou and your permit kiss kiss bang bang

Shelby Dusette Division 13 15007	Posted - 2017.04.16 23:51:48 - [11] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Should have bought a permit Fyou and your permit Rude -ò-+-öGäô-¦-â pàñ -ò-â -+-â+¦-ò-é GÖÑ -ò-àc-+ -¦-Å+¦++-ö GÖÑ -+any l-ög+¦-â-+ GÖÑ wow
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1180	Posted - 2017.04.17 00:10:58 - [12] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Should have bought a permit Fyou and your permit It's pixels Get over it Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Soel Reit Dambusters 617 Sq 810	Posted - 2017.04.17 00:14:36 - [13] - Quote pixels > Real life! let's state our priorities
Aedaxus Digital Zone Corp 17	Posted - 2017.04.17 00:20:51 - [14] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Should have bought a permit I have a monthly permit from CCP. Always had and always will have.
Teros Hakomairos Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 23	Posted - 2017.04.17 00:45:54 - [15] - Quote That's the problem with this game..... Too many trigger happy jerks that see sense in the senseless..... I know...war .....this is a pvp game......leave if you don't like it......and so on.... I heard it all...... But i still don't get it why someone has FUN in shooting an unarmed ship....i don't care if it's a barge or a freighter..... Sure...you can create MANY excuses why this is "a good thing" but the simple truth leads to only one conclusion...it's all about the kill...to disturb someones day to the core.....and finding this funny is - i apologize- simply sick..... Someone who finds it funny to spoil someone's day needs medical and mental help......quick......
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1180	Posted - 2017.04.17 00:58:21 - [16] - Quote Teros Hakomairos wrote: That's the problem with this game..... Too many trigger happy jerks that see sense in the senseless..... I know...war .....this is a pvp game......leave if you don't like it......and so on.... I heard it all...... But i still don't get it why someone has FUN in shooting an unarmed ship....i don't care if it's a barge or a freighter..... Sure...you can create MANY excuses why this is "a good thing" but the simple truth leads to only one conclusion...it's all about the kill...to disturb someones day to the core.....and finding this funny is - i apologize- simply sick..... Someone who finds it funny to spoil someone's day needs medical and mental help......quick...... Why do you have fun shooting defenceless rocks? THINK OF THEIR FAMILIES!! Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Keno Skir 1523	Posted - 2017.04.17 09:54:49 - [17] - Quote Teros Hakomairos wrote: That's the problem with this game..... Too many trigger happy jerks that see sense in the senseless..... I know...war .....this is a pvp game......leave if you don't like it......and so on.... I heard it all...... But i still don't get it why someone has FUN in shooting an unarmed ship....i don't care if it's a barge or a freighter..... Sure...you can create MANY excuses why this is "a good thing" but the simple truth leads to only one conclusion...it's all about the kill...to disturb someones day to the core.....and finding this funny is - i apologize- simply sick..... Someone who finds it funny to spoil someone's day needs medical and mental help......quick...... I'll go out on a limb and try to answer you seriously. You just don't understand the depth of the game. Someone might also say "I don't get it why someone has FUN in hauling ore", or "I don't get it why someone has FUN in shooting a mining beam at a rock". The beauty of a game like EvE is that you have to set your own goals. So the hauler looks as if he's having a boring time but he's concerned with a bigger picture. The hauler wants to achieve profit targets and upgrade his equipment, so that's what he's thinking while you think he's bored. The miner much the same is concerned with his own targets and his own plan, and it's easy to assume you know what's going on under the surface but you really can't. The PvP guy is the same, you can't assume he's just "finding it fun disturbing his day". Many people do it for that reason, but you can't discount other factors like killboard competition, strategic factors and profit, all of which are legitimate reasons to blow up a Charon. This is a core part of the game Black Lanterns Blog <- Read my ramblings -.- 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <---
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 61749	Posted - 2017.04.17 10:28:34 - [18] - Quote Teros Hakomairos wrote: That's the problem with this game..... Too many trigger happy jerks that see sense in the senseless..... I know...war .....this is a pvp game......leave if you don't like it......and so on.... I heard it all...... But i still don't get it why someone has FUN in shooting an unarmed ship....i don't care if it's a barge or a freighter..... Sure...you can create MANY excuses why this is "a good thing" but the simple truth leads to only one conclusion...it's all about the kill...to disturb someones day to the core.....and finding this funny is - i apologize- simply sick..... Someone who finds it funny to spoil someone's day needs medical and mental help......quick...... I agree and the player log in numbers confirm it. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Keno Skir 1525	Posted - 2017.04.17 11:43:36 - [19] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: I agree and the player log in numbers confirm it. DMC You could say that to literally any post that says something bad about EvE. "yeah well the player numbers support it" is meaningless unless you can demonstrate somehow that this specific reason is to blame and not the myriad of other potential reasons that have all be discussed to death. There are less players than at EvE's peak, but i don't believe for a second it's because of wardecs. I learned loads from being wardecced as a new player, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Black Lanterns Blog <- Read my ramblings -.- 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <---
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 61758	Posted - 2017.04.17 15:34:20 - [20] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: DeMichael Crimson wrote: I agree and the player log in numbers confirm it. DMC You could say that to literally any post that says something bad about EvE. "yeah well the player numbers support it" is meaningless unless you can demonstrate somehow that this specific reason is to blame and not the myriad of other potential reasons that have all be discussed to death. There are less players than at EvE's peak, but i don't believe for a second it's because of wardecs. I learned loads from being wardecced as a new player, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I never implied or said it was due to WarDecs. However during the years that I've been playing this game I can definitely cite a few examples of players who quit due to too many trigger happy jerks in high sec shooting unarmed ships just to pad their KM stats. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. If you think there's no problem then you're part of the problem. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle

Teros Hakomairos Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 25	Posted - 2017.04.17 15:36:08 - [21] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: DeMichael Crimson wrote: I agree and the player log in numbers confirm it. DMC You could say that to literally any post that says something bad about EvE. "yeah well the player numbers support it" is meaningless unless you can demonstrate somehow that this specific reason is to blame and not the myriad of other potential reasons that have all be discussed to death. There are less players than at EvE's peak, but i don't believe for a second it's because of wardecs. I learned loads from being wardecced as a new player, and thoroughly enjoyed it. It's really simple....ganks in hi outside of wars have to stop...... I don't care HOW ccp archives this but they HAVE to.... The people vote with their feets,or to say it clear,they leave. All that will be left soon will be Alphas and a few people that get blinded by "growing player numbers" But what are growing player numbers good fot if a minimum of 9/10 are alphas. In the end CCP will have no choice than to complete the ftp reconstruction and make it ftp only with all consequences like buyable packages in the shop that gives you -for more money a sub once costed- full access to all elements of the game..... This is the future if there's no turnaround.......
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1197	Posted - 2017.04.17 15:36:35 - [22] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: Keno Skir wrote: DeMichael Crimson wrote: I agree and the player log in numbers confirm it. DMC You could say that to literally any post that says something bad about EvE. "yeah well the player numbers support it" is meaningless unless you can demonstrate somehow that this specific reason is to blame and not the myriad of other potential reasons that have all be discussed to death. There are less players than at EvE's peak, but i don't believe for a second it's because of wardecs. I learned loads from being wardecced as a new player, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I never implied or said it was due to WarDecs. However during the years that I've been playing this game I can definitely cite a few examples of players who quit due to too many trigger happy jerks in high sec shooting unarmed ships just to pad their KM stats. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. If you think there's no problem then you're part of the problem. DMC if you think safe spaces are a thing in EVE, then you're playing the wrong game DMC Everyone knows that in EVE, there are only player rules (and the EULA) Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Keno Skir 1529	Posted - 2017.04.17 15:55:30 - [23] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: Keno Skir wrote: DeMichael Crimson wrote: I agree and the player log in numbers confirm it. DMC You could say that to literally any post that says something bad about EvE. "yeah well the player numbers support it" is meaningless unless you can demonstrate somehow that this specific reason is to blame and not the myriad of other potential reasons that have all be discussed to death. There are less players than at EvE's peak, but i don't believe for a second it's because of wardecs. I learned loads from being wardecced as a new player, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I never implied or said it was due to WarDecs. However during the years that I've been playing this game I can definitely cite a few examples of players who quit due to too many trigger happy jerks in high sec shooting unarmed ships just to pad their KM stats. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. If you think there's no problem then you're part of the problem. DMC You implied it was due to wardecs by agreeing with the previous post that said it was specifically due to wardecs, sorry for my confusion ;) Butt-hurt carebears trying to "safe space" the game are actually the problem. Wardecs are easy to avoid, and you don't have to lose out on community to do it because you can create infinite community chat rooms which accomplish the same thing as most corps. Ganking is also easily avoided as evidenced by the VAST MAJORITY of haulers who play just fine by using a small amount of common sense. Ganking is fine because it's avoidable with good strategy. Wardecs are fine because they are avoidable with good strategy. I genuinely don't understand what the problem is that you think i'm "part of" so could you include some actual content next time you post? Please include reasons why you think easily avoidable situations are breaking the game Black Lanterns Blog <- Read my ramblings -.- 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <---
Chewytowel Haklar Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 278	Posted - 2017.04.17 19:01:08 - [24] - Quote Some of you are bringing up dropping average numbers on Tranquility. They do definitely seem to be returning to a pre-Ascension range at the moment. The reason I have read that the numbers dropped quite a bit in the past couple years or so has been partly due to the skill queue changes. There was a Dev I believe who brought this up in a past thread/blog and they had ideas on how to deal with it awhile back. The alpha clone idea was perhaps a way to stem the tide, but let's be honest here that it was also a way to bring in more content in whatever form for New Eden. I don't think that the dropping numbers are solely due to any one thing really. Ganking and being wardec'd can suck I agree! I've been blown up many many times and it sucks to feel interrupted in your daily routine in a game. Some of these gankers care about profit, while others do not care at all and just want to inflate their Zkillboard stats. Yet, wardec'ing has become a bit tougher than it used to be in order to try and ensure you have a healthy range of targets to shoot. Even Wardec'ing someone itself could be for any number of reasons for all any of us know. This game however relies on the players to do something. Everyone concerned can sit here and hope and beg CCP does something, or you can put together a group that starts something to counter this behavior. Some have already formed counter ganking groups in EVE, perhaps this is a new fight all could join in on. Perhaps it might be in certain groups interests to band together and form an alliance with their own ops, doctrines, and groups specializing in counter ganking and wardec'ing. You'd likely have a ton of content, and you'd also perhaps start to make a new chapter in EVE history. Maybe that isn't what you signed up for, but at least you'd be doing something to defend an area of space you care about as well as those within it. I've seen people fight back against ganking so maybe some underestimate the 'carebears' that are willing to join such a group. How to do this: Build corporations out of alts and form an alliance. These alts don't care if they are wardec'd 24/7 and it doesn't interrupt your main activities. Put together a website/forum/whatever where you can communicate with each other along with intel and chat channels. Put together strategic doctrines to help you accomplish your goals, which you might not even need at first if you bring a fairly decent ship comp to start. Train/recruit knowledgeable FC's Add SRP, and with so many industrial corporations in high sec even receiving donated ships and modules probably won't be much of an issue to help replace losses. Offer escorts, defense of wardec'ing, etc to aid others throughout all of high sec. Build allies with other alliances that agree to come and help assist you as part of an agreement. Perhaps they don't like the guys you are fighting as well for their own reasons.
Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 189	Posted - 2017.04.17 19:34:13 - [25] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: However during the years that I've been playing this game I can definitely cite a few examples of players who quit due to too many trigger happy jerks in high sec shooting unarmed ships just to pad their KM stats. How many is too many? What do you think whould have been an appropritely low percentage of the current ganker population that whould have ensured that those players stick to the game? (yaaay, we didn't have this thread for -days- now!) They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1571	Posted - 2017.04.17 19:56:34 - [26] - Quote Teros Hakomairos wrote: That's the problem with this game..... Too many trigger happy jerks that see sense in the senseless..... I know...war .....this is a pvp game......leave if you don't like it......and so on.... I heard it all...... But i still don't get it why someone has FUN in shooting an unarmed ship....i don't care if it's a barge or a freighter..... Sure...you can create MANY excuses why this is "a good thing" but the simple truth leads to only one conclusion...it's all about the kill...to disturb someones day to the core.....and finding this funny is - i apologize- simply sick..... Someone who finds it funny to spoil someone's day needs medical and mental help......quick...... It's a game you know? I sometimes wonder if people even know what that is, a game. And the more I read here on the forums, the more I appreciate, that my parents didn't spoil our fun playing "Mensch +ñrgere Dich nicht" with us as children. Of course there may be some players, that delight in another player's misfortune. But eventually you get to know them. For all the rest out there, it's just a game... Remove standings and insurance.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 61764	Posted - 2017.04.17 20:02:20 - [27] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: if you think safe spaces are a thing in EVE, then you're playing the wrong game DMC Everyone knows that in EVE, there are only player rules (and the EULA) Keno Skir wrote: You implied it was due to wardecs by agreeing with the previous post that said it was specifically due to wardecs, sorry for my confusion ;) Butt-hurt carebears trying to "safe space" the game are actually the problem. Wardecs are easy to avoid, and you don't have to lose out on community to do it because you can create infinite community chat rooms which accomplish the same thing as most corps. Ganking is also easily avoided as evidenced by the VAST MAJORITY of haulers who play just fine by using a small amount of common sense. Ganking is fine because it's avoidable with good strategy. Wardecs are fine because they are avoidable with good strategy. I genuinely don't understand what the problem is that you think i'm "part of" so could you include some actual content next time you post? Please include reasons why you think easily avoidable situations are breaking the game Swear to GOD you two losers seriously need to train up reading comprehension to level 5 and stop putting words into my mouth. I really don't give a rats arse about the BS you guys keep trying to sell everyone every time this topic comes up. I started playing this game way before the two of you started playing. I remember exactly how it was when I first joined compared to how it is now. Over the years I've seen how this game has progressed. In 2009 the log in numbers increased substantially each year through 2013 with an average amount of 40k on weekdays and average amount of 60k on weekends, then the numbers started dropping and have continued to drop at a rapid pace to half that amount. I don't need to explain anything, the numbers speak for themselves. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1197	Posted - 2017.04.17 20:04:22 - [28] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: if you think safe spaces are a thing in EVE, then you're playing the wrong game DMC Everyone knows that in EVE, there are only player rules (and the EULA) Keno Skir wrote: You implied it was due to wardecs by agreeing with the previous post that said it was specifically due to wardecs, sorry for my confusion ;) Butt-hurt carebears trying to "safe space" the game are actually the problem. Wardecs are easy to avoid, and you don't have to lose out on community to do it because you can create infinite community chat rooms which accomplish the same thing as most corps. Ganking is also easily avoided as evidenced by the VAST MAJORITY of haulers who play just fine by using a small amount of common sense. Ganking is fine because it's avoidable with good strategy. Wardecs are fine because they are avoidable with good strategy. I genuinely don't understand what the problem is that you think i'm "part of" so could you include some actual content next time you post? Please include reasons why you think easily avoidable situations are breaking the game Tears DMC so because we don't have your perfect point of view, we are losers now? hahahaha please, go sit in the corner and refrain from talking Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 61766	Posted - 2017.04.17 21:22:04 - [29] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Tears because we don't have your perfect point of view, we are losers. Yeah, I know you don't misquote others intentionally either, it's just a force of habit. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Chewytowel Haklar Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 278	Posted - 2017.04.17 21:39:43 - [30] - Quote Maybe it is just a coincidence, but DecShield stopped being a thing in 2013 right? Maybe that has a part in it as well. But I'd be very interested to hear you're history of what happened and how it happened DMC. I wasn't around playing the game back then. Was ganking not a thing back in 2013? Was High Sec too safe and others like CODE. decided to act? Maybe there is a Wiki somewhere with a detailed rich history in how this all really got started. If it truly is the reason for less logging in, then it would be good to see some proof.



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