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Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.08 17:48:00 -
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I'm just wondering if the Devs have realized that these 2 systems are being lagged beyond Jita 3 day weekend scale on a fairly regular basis. I'm assuming the root of the problem is the fact that those systems are the main mission running ground from no less than 3 lvl 4 agents in the area, not to mention the other various other low level missions flying around. Speaking for all mission runners who've been trying to run missions for the last 3 days could we please get some node reinforcement on the short term and maybe a long term solution like moving agents, or at least spreading out their system mission assignments.
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Posted - 2007.05.08 17:50:00 -
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Matsu and Saila lagging? That almost never happens sometimes.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.08 17:54:00 -
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I think it would help matters if there were additional links out there. Saila is a dumping ground for mission spawns because of the chokepoint system connections. Whoever thought putting the highest quality L4 Command agent in a dead end system was a great idea needs to be kicked in the junk till he pukes.
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slothe
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:05:00 -
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simple solution put all lvl 4 missions in lowsec
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Kaeana
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Horatio Nately
I'm just wondering if the Devs have realized that these 2 systems are being lagged beyond Jita 3 day weekend scale on a fairly regular basis. I'm assuming the root of the problem is the fact that those systems are the main mission running ground from no less than 3 lvl 4 agents in the area, not to mention the other various other low level missions flying around. Speaking for all mission runners who've been trying to run missions for the last 3 days could we please get some node reinforcement on the short term and maybe a long term solution like moving agents, or at least spreading out their system mission assignments.
No. No, they didn't know. You're actually the first person to bring it up! Luckily you didn't bother wasting your time doing a forum search for "lag" and "motsu" because it wouldn't have brought anything up anyway 
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Dread Operative
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
simple solution put all lvl 4 missions in lowsec
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
simple solution put all lvl 4 missions in lowsec
Missions, sure, mission agents, no. Think for a second. Its bad enough L4 missions are farmed in ubertanked Ravens and whatnot with years worth of skills and billions in named components for almost zero risk ISK farming, now you want to open that door to a PvE fitted Dreadnought or Carrier?
You really sure about that?
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Varstet
Bonanza.
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull
Originally by: slothe
simple solution put all lvl 4 missions in lowsec
Missions, sure, mission agents, no. Think for a second. Its bad enough L4 missions are farmed in ubertanked Ravens and whatnot with years worth of skills and billions in named components for almost zero risk ISK farming, now you want to open that door to a PvE fitted Dreadnought or Carrier?
You really sure about that?
I thought Dreadnoughts/Carriers couldn't use mission gates thus couldnt do missions.
I could be very wrong since I dont have much experience with them.
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Caol
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull
Originally by: slothe
simple solution put all lvl 4 missions in lowsec
Missions, sure, mission agents, no. Think for a second. Its bad enough L4 missions are farmed in ubertanked Ravens and whatnot with years worth of skills and billions in named components for almost zero risk ISK farming, now you want to open that door to a PvE fitted Dreadnought or Carrier?
You really sure about that?
That is whats planned, see Oveurs blog from Feburary: My agent eve mailed me and wants to offer... what?!?!?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:31:00 -
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You know, Caldari Navy is not the only corporation in EVE with level 4 combat agents!
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:32:00 -
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1) Use this link
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4) Profit!
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Vladimir Norkoff
The Black Rabbits
Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull
..now you want to open that door to a PvE fitted Dreadnought or Carrier?
Well L5 missions are going to be coming out fairly "soon", and they'll all be in lowsec.. Plus those missions will apparently almost require cap ships (so they say).. So not that much of a difference..
Best part is, dreads and carriers would show up like a big shiny beacon for probes, even in deadspace.. And knowing the mission-runner mentality they would be there solo.. So yes, please, put them all in lowsec..
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff
Originally by: Janu Hull
..now you want to open that door to a PvE fitted Dreadnought or Carrier?
Well L5 missions are going to be coming out fairly "soon", and they'll all be in lowsec.. Plus those missions will apparently almost require cap ships (so they say).. So not that much of a difference..
Best part is, dreads and carriers would show up like a big shiny beacon for probes, even in deadspace.. And knowing the mission-runner mentality they would be there solo.. So yes, please, put them all in lowsec..
There's a difference between running a mission with a modicum of challenge, and then there's farming. Farming would entail no risk to the flyer. A Carrier with an average capital tank and a compliment of Tech II drones could run encounter missions in their sleep. Heck, I do that already with Tech II drones and a battleship in L3 missions. No virtually no risk, except one or two mission types where I actually have to pay attention until a few dire types are down, but otherwise, run the passive tank, turn off the guns, and let the drones pick'em off.
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Ker Ching
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
simple solution put all lvl 4 missions in lowsec
Tell you what, let's move all agents to lo sec. That way we won't have to read this stupid ****in' answer every time a thread like this is started.
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Gaia Thorn
Villains
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:52:00 -
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Why not just introduce a limit on the agents as to how many can use em.
And then ad more agents and spread people out abit more.
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SonShadowCat
PINK TACO TORPERS
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Posted - 2007.05.08 19:08:00 -
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Simple solution, do your lvl 4 missions elsewhere.
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Dal Thrax
Caldari
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.08 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: SonShadowCat
Simple solution, do your lvl 4 missions elsewhere.
I expect as soon a LP's are NPC corp wide instead of just limited to one agent we'll see this, on the other hand it would help if CCP insured that each NPC corp had a couple agents at the top quality level instead one "highest quality" agent.
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Dungheap
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.08 21:14:00 -
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i think some of the posters are missing the point. there are agents there, they do give missions in the local systems. a great deal of the time, those systems are so lagged that the person who pays to play this game is unable to do so.
there's the way things should be, and the way they really are. at the moment, ccp should be ashamed at the level of service afforded their customers using these systems.
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.08 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Caol
That is whats planned, see Oveurs blog from Feburary: My agent eve mailed me and wants to offer... what?!?!?
"Said capital-ship-driving-group-flying pilots probably remember said pirates from when pirate took pilot out the last time and capital-ship-driving-group-flying pilot will stop if he sees said pirate criminal flagged at a gate. "
So does this mean cap ships will be able to use gates? 
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Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.09 04:06:00 -
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I'd like to also point out to those people that say go elsewhere to really think about it. There's another agent in a 0.5 that would toss me into low sec on occasion, and having done it myself I know how easily someone can be probed out, the other lvl 4 caldari navy (because I know thats what we're all running missions for) agent thats not in the area is a pretty poor quality agent, which leaves the 2 Lvl 4 agents in the vicinty of 1-2 jumps of each other, effectively overlapping their areas where they throw players.
and as far as not running missions for the caldari navy, I'm not really in the mood to dump all my LPs and go grind another npc corp to get standings again tyvm.
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Flex Nebura
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.09 15:56:00 -
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To me it seems like the problem is not the regular mission runners with their loads of skills and nice modules.
Its the mission macroers with their crappy skills, that use 5 or more ships to do missions, swarming it with drones and the like..
One way to fix this, as clearly CCP doenst have time to police it, is to move lvl 4 missions to low sec, increase the dificulty, increase the rewards.
Predictable as missions are, its not surprizing that someone made a macro for them.
Oh well perhaps its time to leave the lvl 4 missions to the macroers and move on to other, more profitable, things
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Ralara
Caldari
Lilandri Foundation
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Posted - 2007.05.09 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Nately
I'd like to also point out to those people that say go elsewhere to really think about it. There's another agent in a 0.5 that would toss me into low sec on occasion,
Find a 0.5 system (or 0.6, 0.7 etc) that isn't near low sec? :D
there's one next to where i mission :)
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Ciuci
FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.09 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
simple solution put all lvl 4 missions in lowsec
/me ^^
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Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2007.05.09 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Nately
I'd like to also point out to those people that say go elsewhere to really think about it
Originally by: Horatio Nately
and as far as not running missions for the caldari navy, I'm not really in the mood to dump all my LPs and go grind another npc corp to get standings again tyvm.
Ok, and I think it's you that needs to really think about it, or more correctly: to have thought about it. You knew Motsu was lag-hell when you moved in - its been like that for ages - how come you didn't leave much sooner? You've grinded yourself into an unenviable situation, but that took some time, plenty of time to consider your options and make a move before it got too late.
That said, making LP per corp and not per agent would help matters a lot.
For those asking for level 4s to be moved to low-sec: they are doing this, but they're saying it in a different way to avoid losing thousands of customers ;-)
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Ander Zeiss
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.05.09 16:38:00 -
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About a month ago I got so tired of the lag around these systems that I spent a few weeks grinding with a new corp to access level 4 agents elsewhere. Now I have a nice place to mission, with a good agent, but I still run into the same problem that made Motsu so nice, having a choice when the agents gave you a bad mission.
Yesterday I got offered guristas extrav, but since I only had a few hours to play, I turned it down. Then I ask my agent for a different mission and I get offered guristas extrav again. Now I can't do anything for 4 hours but log out. Sure I could haul all my different mods and ammo across the galaxy to another agent, but that just is a hassle and still doesn't prevent me from getting guristas extrav offered to me again.
Having agents clustered makes this a non issue, and to this day makes Motsu attractive even with all the lag.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.09 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Flex Nebura
perhaps its time to leave the lvl 4 missions to the macroers and move on to other, more profitable, things
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Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.09 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Horatio Nately on 09/05/2007 17:12:37
Originally by: Aioa
Ok, and I think it's you that needs to really think about it, or more correctly: to have thought about it. You knew Motsu was lag-hell when you moved in - its been like that for ages - how come you didn't leave much sooner? You've grinded yourself into an unenviable situation, but that took some time, plenty of time to consider your options and make a move before it got too late.
I dont even pull my missions IN motsu, my agent in Isenairos decided to treat me for lunch and send me the 2 jumps to go play in the lag. TBH I didnt even know about motsu's lag issues because at the time I started running 4s, I was still pretty noob. SO long story short the agents are SENDING Me over to motsu, I'd be quite happy staying in Isenairos belveve me
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.09 19:38:00 -
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Meh, I'll just tough it out in an expendable ship, in low sec missions, and deal with the occassional visit by a player who actually spends the time to sniff me out.
Beats the frell out of the lag in Saila...
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