EvE is fun when YOU are winning. But you're part of the McDonalds of EvE, so what the poster above me said. Learn to cook.

So you're telling me that I joined another mining corporation which is masquerading as a nullsec power.

In some other game you can walk up naked to a fully armored player in pvp and knock them out and steal all their stuff while naked. Eve however isn't like that.

I mean basically by joining the game and undocking you are opening up a world of hurt!

Eve isn't fun! You guys all suck! I hate you all!
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Eve doesn't seem like a game you can sit back,relax, and enjoy.

I suppose for a game that is niche it is clearly only meant for a certain type of player.

Eve is for those who enjoy a game where you CAN'T sit back and relax, at least if you expect to survive or succeed. This has been well known in the general gaming world for 13 years. You either have just recently hooked up to electricity and the internet or you are faking naivety.

And...... Another one bites the dust... yeah yeah.

Hint* your missing the point of the game. And even so every game have his charm why do you think people play league of legends and starting every time over and over again?

If Eve is truly a sandbox I wish to create a cozy little neck of the woods where I can carelessly sit back and relax in a big blinged out ship while laughing at you all.

You can do that.

Eve isn't supposed to be safe that is part of game design

Eve isn't supposed to be safe that is part of game design

You can do that.

.................. Yet Eve doesn't seem like a game you can sit back,relax, and enjoy. ................

Here, at the outset, is your problem.

You have, I strongly suspect, been brought up on the myriad of things marketed as 'games', but are truly 'entertainments'.

"(Y)ou can sit back,relax, and enjoy" a: film; a hobby; a pastime; a book; or even those risible and mostly moronic FPS' that pander to those who just like to shoot ****.

They are NOT 'games' - EVE is.

You were probably right - EVE may well not be the game for you - unless you actually want to try and play it.

For the last 20 years - if a game I'm playing hasn't meant I use Excel, then it's not really for me......

And yes - EVE is niche.

Be not afeared - it is indeed us who are not 'average'; not near the 'norm' - there's nothing wrong with you - it's us. And we know it!

I suppose for a game that is niche it is clearly only meant for a certain type of player. It does however have the absolutely worse pve I have ever seen in a game. I know that it wasn't meant to be a pve game, but the content here is in some places so atrociously bad that is literally painful to play it. It just isn't entertaining in the log run, nor fun to do over and over again. You go to a station and click on a box and up pops some out of date dialog window telling you how important something is. It doesn't matter though, and the mission isn't important as it is simply the equivalent of a daily mission you can do over and over for a reward. You get sent out into a space to enter a room filled with targets that you shoot again and again. I don't know how to improve the way missions are but they are so uninteresting. Maybe pve isn't the primary focus of Eve but if anything hopefully the missions will be getting a rework in the future (esp mining and distribution?).

The game is mainly about two things: pvp and the economy. But largely it comes down to pvp. I don't find pvp in Eve fun frankly and I'm not entirely sure why. Fitting ships, different ships to chose from, and building up your skills to do something is all fun. Yet, when it comes down to it there seems to be something lacking in ship vs ship combat. It seems too bland, while also being at the very same time fairly complicated. You don't simply fly to a ship, orbit, and press f1. You have to know the ships you are up against, the fittings they might use, the holes they have in their resists, and how to counter each situation. You also need to know when you simply not bother and not engage. That doesn't include managing range and your velocity in relation to theirs to do as optimal dps as you possibly can in your limited engagement window. In the end it seems far too punishing. You can not only lose your ship, but your whole fit, and even your pod including implants you might have had as well. So in the end I think that this is the major deal breaker for quite a few. Eve isn't a game where you can just lose your avatar over and over again and keep coming back and still do damage without having lost anything.

In other games you can be practically naked and still contribute in a fight. You can walk up to a fully armored player in pvp and knock them out and steal all their stuff while naked. Eve however isn't like that. You have to have isk and you have to be able to afford to lose it when buying ships. Those ships have to be fitted, and I can't simply knock out a ship and steal its cargo and fitting then laugh at it in jest. Eve kicks you in the nuts and laughs at you for playing it instead. And that is probably the one thing that isn't marketed about it: Eve is the Demon's Souls of mmo space games. It isn't supposed to be fun necessarily but hard. The players make that even harder as they have been here far longer than anyone just joining. I mean basically by joining the game and undocking you are opening up a world of hurt! The game also relies heavily on the players to pull others in, and one of the very first things they can be greeted with is a mining corporation in high sec.

Which leads me to the last thing. Everyone in Eve is fighting for the part of Eve that makes it fun for them. And pretty much all of those things revolve around wrecking other peoples dreams and ambitions. Eve isn't fun! You guys all suck! I hate you all!

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