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Snickerdoodle
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:16:00 -
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I'm just curious if this stock is doing better than average, or what.
It started $10,000,000 isk per share, started 6 weeks ago. It pays dividends once per week.
Week # : % return
1 : 16.68%
2 : 13.21%
3 : 22.41 %
4 : 14.67 %
5 : 13.03 %
6 : 12.04 %
Basically, it's almost doubled the investment for the stockholders investment in 6 weeks. I assume that's good? Do other stockholders see returns like this?
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Marodi Julita
Sublime Captial Investments
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:26:00 -
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Who is this? I'm intrigued
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Professor Bunsen
Optech Scientific
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:44:00 -
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In terms of pure return and ignoring security of investment I would say it depends on the funds under management. 100 mil unimpressed, 1 bil OK, 10 bil very good.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Hexxx on 10/05/2007 21:42:55
If you look at the market and the history of share pricing, most share prices will rise from the initial IPO untill the returns average 4% to 6% (monthly) off the adjusted price.
If these shares are publically traded their price has likely risen considerably.
Any IPO or Bond issue seems to follow this trend. This seems to be the perfect price point of supply and demand for shares.
The exceptions to the rule are investments which actually increase the percentage of their payout/dividend without warning. These highly variable investments are relatively rare though. At least so far.
The current market trend is variable rate or fixed rate Bonds, which are actually more convenient (read:easier) for a business since they can actually pay off their investors with a maturity date on the Bonds. (at which point the Bond matures and a pre-set amount is paid, effectively ending all Dividends for those "shares")
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Snickerdoodle
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Professor Bunsen
In terms of pure return and ignoring security of investment I would say it depends on the funds under management. 100 mil unimpressed, 1 bil OK, 10 bil very good.
It's a privately traded company, currently with 11.3 billion isk invested, and over a dozen shareholders.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Snickerdoodle
Originally by: Professor Bunsen
In terms of pure return and ignoring security of investment I would say it depends on the funds under management. 100 mil unimpressed, 1 bil OK, 10 bil very good.
It's a privately traded company, currently with 11.3 billion isk invested, and over a dozen shareholders.
The managers of the company deserve a bit of praise then.
The more money a company manages, the more difficult it is to maintain those double digit returns. That's the trend in EVE at least.
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:50:00 -
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And I presume you'd be willing to sell some of these shares?
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Snickerdoodle
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hexxx
Edited by: Hexxx on 10/05/2007 21:42:55
If you look at the market and the history of share pricing, most share prices will rise from the initial IPO untill the returns average 4% to 6% (monthly) off the adjusted price.
If these shares are publically traded their price has likely risen considerably.
Any IPO or Bond issue seems to follow this trend. This seems to be the perfect price point of supply and demand for shares.
The exceptions to the rule are investments which actually increase the percentage of their payout/dividend without warning. These highly variable investments are relatively rare though. At least so far.
The current market trend is variable rate or fixed rate Bonds, which are actually more convenient (read:easier) for a business since they can actually pay off their investors with a maturity date on the Bonds. (at which point the Bond matures and a pre-set amount is paid, effectively ending all Dividends for those "shares")
Thanks I think...
I went in on this to keep the shares at 10million each, start to finish. This way I can buy them back from the shareholders at cost if they wanted their money back, and when the day comes I'm done I can give everyone their money back at cost.
Im not following several of the trends.
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Snickerdoodle
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack
And I presume you'd be willing to sell some of these shares?
Nope, as I stated it's private.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:00:00 -
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If those shares become publically traded, the price per share will adjust to market demands.
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Chia Mulholland
Mulholland Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:03:00 -
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Yeah, hold on to those shares. Double-digit returns per month is really good. Per week is insane.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:11:00 -
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The value of those shares would quickly shoot up to 23 million each. Over time they would probably level out just above 30 million if the average return (15% per week) continues.
Honestly, shares like those could be priced at 28 million each and sell briskly.
Your better off keeping them to be honest.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Snickerdoodle
I went in on this to keep the shares at 10million each, start to finish. This way I can buy them back from the shareholders at cost if they wanted their money back, and when the day comes I'm done I can give everyone their money back at cost.
So you are talking about your own private project here then?
The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it.
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Trotski II
Rasta Tropical Club
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Posted - 2007.05.10 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Snickerdoodle
Originally by: Hexxx
Edited by: Hexxx on 10/05/2007 21:42:55
If you look at the market and the history of share pricing, most share prices will rise from the initial IPO untill the returns average 4% to 6% (monthly) off the adjusted price.
If these shares are publically traded their price has likely risen considerably.
Any IPO or Bond issue seems to follow this trend. This seems to be the perfect price point of supply and demand for shares.
The exceptions to the rule are investments which actually increase the percentage of their payout/dividend without warning. These highly variable investments are relatively rare though. At least so far.
The current market trend is variable rate or fixed rate Bonds, which are actually more convenient (read:easier) for a business since they can actually pay off their investors with a maturity date on the Bonds. (at which point the Bond matures and a pre-set amount is paid, effectively ending all Dividends for those "shares")
Thanks I think...
I went in on this to keep the shares at 10million each, start to finish. This way I can buy them back from the shareholders at cost if they wanted their money back, and when the day comes I'm done I can give everyone their money back at cost.
Im not following several of the trends.
So you pick 11 billions isk and in 6 weeks double it and need to come ask if it¦s good or bad???
I suspect this company is going public in the near time.
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Snickerdoodle
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Posted - 2007.05.11 00:16:00 -
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Thanks everyone for the answers.
I wasn't too happy on how much money I made the shareholders and myself the past month (the 22.4% return spoiled me), and I was telling one of the shareholders I was upset I only made 12% this past week, and he told me I'm foolish to feel it, as other shares he got in the past were horrible compared to this. He gave a few examples, and I thought I would come here and get another opinion.
Seems I'm doing pretty good afterall, and I'll keep doing it.
Till I get sick of it and give all their money back, but we'll all be stinky rich by then :D
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Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.05.11 03:59:00 -
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sounds like someone is starting the pre-ipo marketing phase ;)
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bogir
War And Peace Construction
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Posted - 2007.05.11 04:49:00 -
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its nice work.. privte IPOs are normal all ways better then open ones.. but all above 10% if relly nice per month.
and for thos thinking this is some pre marked check or per ipo on some new ipo.. you cant be more rong.. just read the info there is.. :
Originally by: Snickerdoodle
It's a privately traded company, currently with 11.3 billion isk invested, and over a dozen shareholders.
but GL whit it and just keep up the good work you are doing now.
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Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.05.11 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: bogir
its nice work.. privte IPOs are normal all ways better then open ones.. but all above 10% if relly nice per month.
Private IPO?
:p
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Athanasios Anastasiou
Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.11 05:58:00 -
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Initial private offering, duh  .
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.05.12 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Snickerdoodle
I'm just curious if this stock is doing better than average, or what.
It started $10,000,000 isk per share, started 6 weeks ago. It pays dividends once per week.
Week # : % return
1 : 16.68%
2 : 13.21%
3 : 22.41 %
4 : 14.67 %
5 : 13.03 %
6 : 12.04 %
Basically, it's almost doubled the investment for the stockholders investment in 6 weeks. I assume that's good? Do other stockholders see returns like this?
nice going and no, others don't.
yes, i read the thread, 11b and snicker seems to be running it or on the corp side of it.
stocks like this are why i started investing in the eve stock market, with the hopes that groups of good and/or honest businessmen would arise with great plans to make the shareholder tons of isk in a timely fashion.
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Snickerdoodle
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Posted - 2007.05.12 20:39:00 -
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I don't think I could do it for the public at large, as I'm doing all the leg work to keep myself and my corp mates with a steady income to play freely instead of logging in to hear a few folks simply can't go play due to being broke, and needing to rat or mission.
If I did - I'd most certainly be keeping a percantage to pay for my work.
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