So the current small tower I have, which just does refining and small manufacture will be superseded by the local the NPC.

Still waiting to hear when the promise will be kept to small corporations/industrialists.

Didn't you get the memo?
"Screw you" -CCP (paraphrased)
Or the other memo?
"Small corporations don't matter. Be someone else's NPC or get out." -CCP (paraphrased)

What would happen with outpost "eggs" that will happen to be manufactured but not deployed by the date of "upgrade"?

What will happen to clones in outposts? Currently those clones are perfectly safe but with this change they could be destroyed either through the destruction of the replacement citadel or its unanchoring.

So the current small tower I have, which just does refining and small manufacture will be superseded by the local the NPC.

Still waiting to hear when the promise will be kept to small corporations/industrialists.

It's not that rare usage of towers when you deploy into some WH system for short time (hours to days). Expedition style.
As far as I understand, new structures need a week to unanchor.
So, are you planning to support expedition style somehow, new smaller structures?..

What would happen with outpost "eggs" that will happen to be manufactured but not deployed by the date of "upgrade"?

how much are we getting back for our researched outpost BPO's??. this has been asked several times and it seems like you guys are just cloaking up and dodging the question.

Existing copies of Outpost Construction Platforms, Outpost Construction Platform Blueprints, Station Improvement Platforms and Station Upgrade Platforms have been reimbursed in the following fashion:
* Station Improvement Platforms and Station Upgrade Platforms have been removed and their owners have been credited with isk equal to their full NPC sale value
* Minmatar and Gallente Outpost Platform Blueprints have been converted into Astrahus blueprints
* Amarr and Caldari Outpost Platform Blueprints have been converted into Raitaru blueprints
* Outpost Platforms have been converted into both 1 Fortizar and 1 Azbel

Oh, it seems like the details for the reimbursement for not deployed outpost platforms and outpost blueprints are missing.




From the patch notes for next weeks release, which will be posted soon:



Extra items will be sent to either the home station for characters or the delivery hangar in the HQ station for corporations.

Oh, it seems like the details for the reimbursement for not deployed outpost platforms and outpost blueprints are missing.

From the patch notes for next weeks release, which will be posted soon:



Extra items will be sent to either the home station for characters or the delivery hangar in the HQ station for corporations.

Why do you seem hesitant to refund deprecated BPOs, while making them effectively non-functional?

...

The first part of my first question in this thread still seems pretty relevant.

You're going to convert 2b NPC price BPOs into 6b NPC price BPOs that are about to lose some of their utility to the new refinery structures? Astrahus BPOs have already been reselling below NPC due to overbuying and people hopping on new bandwagons. I could understand if you were wanting to ease the transition from outposts to citadels, but we're more than a year past their introduction and have already purchased and researched the BPOs we require. This might've been worth doing back when Citadel was released, but now you're just devaluing peoples' investments in the BPOs from the last year.

Could you let us know why you're doing this? Also, please check that the extra items won't be sent to impound like what happened with SKINs and fighters as it can be very expensive to get them out of there, which is pretty unfair when they weren't there before.

The first part of my first question in this thread still seems pretty relevant.

Well... It's not that these BPOs will be 'effectively non-functional'. They still can be used to make BPCs, to manufacture or they can be sold.

In similar cases with skills CCP never refunds what still can be used. And they better not do "one-time exceptions"....

Outposts and their BPOs have been effectively non-functional for a while now. This dev blog also talks about doing the same to some POS arrays (which is still late), but doesn't mention anything about refunds.

* The exact reimbursement is normally only announced (and decided) after the NPC sell orders are removed from the market: Then there is less concern if the worth of a specific blueprint increases a bit through the reimbursement (otherwise it could be abused too easily :) ).

Some considerations regarding blueprint refunds in general:
* In most cases it is much better to transition them to a different blueprint type instead of giving isk for them. Then we can treat BPOs and BPCs the same and we are not losing the research value of a blueprint.
* The exact reimbursement is normally only announced (and decided) after the NPC sell orders are removed from the market: Then there is less concern if the worth of a specific blueprint increases a bit through the reimbursement (otherwise it could be abused too easily :) ).

What would happen with outpost "eggs" that will happen to be manufactured but not deployed by the date of "upgrade"?

Am i to understand POS are beeing removed?

Question for all of you and devs:

Why not turn the conquerable stations into unconquerable pirate stations. We have those in hi-sec, why not null (and low for that matter)??? It would create a unique (Thera-esque) form of null sec. It can't be taken over and a place where you can run missions for the pirate factions. Do the same with some low-sec systems in each region maybe. Convert them to pirate sov.

Maybe this has been addressed/asked before but it seems very relevant here. I just think the whole solution you have concocted for these conquerable stations is convoluted more than it has to be and doesn't add much to the game (whereas this would.)

Flame on.

I did not know it was possible to hide under a rock in space!

Okayyyy... sooo... instead of just giving a concrete answer, you rather give a useless one... good for you!

I admitted i missed a lot of things, but i bet i'm not the only eve player.

OK, a "a concrete answer" would be yes. It was announced approximately 2 years ago. I'm not sure how an 04 player could have missed that one?

Like most things, In Theory, sounds nice.

Now the question becomes = Would you like to have an NPC free dock staging point for your enemies right in the middle of your space ? Hmmmm Me thinks not.

I do however agree in part that the " Immensea " stations should remain unconquerable and more importantly Unanchorable stations.
But that is not going to happen.
Things going boom is what makes New Eden go around, and makes people buy PLEX to replace it

So still no word about: (as far as i know...)


- Cyno jammers
- jumpbridges


My guess: they will be not replaced at all

So still no word about: (as far as i know...)


- Cyno jammers
- jumpbridges


My guess: they will be not replaced at all

So the current small tower I have, which just does refining and small manufacture will be superseded by the local the NPC.

Still waiting to hear when the promise will be kept to small corporations/industrialists.

I, CCP (not really CCP but, hopefully you got that already), promised that you can keep your doctor and your existing healthcare coverage... oh, and your premiums will also go down with this new plan.

Wait, did I actually say that?? What I meant to say was, small corps are not worth our time and we'll be phasing you out as well. This is a sandbox game but, only for those willing to play the game how we tell you... and that changes from day to day depending on what new rules we feel like (I mean what rules the mega-corp alliances tell us or perhaps what Hilmar's mood is like on any given day). So, I guess it's really not a sandbox at all and you the little people simply do not matter. Please take your money and leave... we don't need you and the rest of the players will ridicule you and ask for your stuff as you go.

Bottom line, CCP does not make promises; they'll give you just enough to make it interesting and as soon as you have trained for whatever niche you happen to like (and are making money)....BAM!!!!! Nerf-bat to the head and go (redacted) yourself if you don't like it.

Sorry, either get used to it or do yourself a huge favor and leave the game. They do not care, they will not listen.

The monument will also list the last alliance to control that Conquerable Station before the transition event. These landmarks will be a permanent reminder of the great things players have done in these systems over more than a decade.

Didn't you get the memo?

"Screw you" -CCP (paraphrased)

Or the other memo?

"Small corporations don't matter. Be someone else's NPC or get out." -CCP (paraphrased)