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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.05.06 19:31:32 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Mara Pahrdi wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Mara Pahrdi wrote:JuckFames 315 wrote:It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred. Ignorance? The only way to pay a character transfer is now a credit card. I don't own one. Not because I cannot afford it, but because I don't need it. There has not been a single case in the last 19 years where I couldn't pay by other (better) means. Before I finally got rid of my credit card in 1998, I hadn't used it once in 5 years. So this is the first situation in those 19 years where I require a credit card. This is not ignorance on the players side, this is ignorance and failure on the side of CCP. Use PayPal ... Paypal is no longer available for character transfers. Hasn't been in years. I stand corrected, you can not indeed, which is quite silly. CCP is silly.
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HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1839
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Posted - 2017.05.06 19:32:41 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:This is something that wasn't included in the release with the PLEX changes, as it's caused by a technical limitation with the way the new PLEX system works. The plan is to look at this down the future and potentially reintroduce paying for this with PLEX, but at this stage we're not committed to a timeline on when this will happen. Hope this answers your question
I have transfered around 170 chars till that day. This are 3400 $ I have NOT payed for this game, and to be honest, I would never ever do that.
Account subsciption is one thing, but why should I pay additional real money for something related with the game?
I am afraid, but I doubt, that I will keep subscribing my 43 accounts. Why? Cause I cannot afford it anymore... the char bazaar is dead.
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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
865
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Posted - 2017.05.06 20:25:01 -
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Father Manlove wrote: The most pathetically hilarious part? When PayPal for transfers was taken away, they said they'd look into getting it re-added in the future, pretty much the same crap they've said here. It's been what now, 5 years?
Just a few months shy of 5 years, yup.
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Defecanda
Ice Mining Boys Requiem Eternal
55
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Posted - 2017.05.07 19:46:06 -
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Thread is dying, Eve dead yet?
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HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1840
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Posted - 2017.05.07 19:50:08 -
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Nope, only the char bazaar is dead - from now on :) |
Krota Merga
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2017.05.08 03:15:32 -
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So new scam plan invented by CCP. Post char for sale in bazar, find buyer, then seller 'suddenly' realizes that he needs 20$ for transfer, but he does not have it. Seller kindly asks buyer send him money by Paypal or bank transfer with promise to reduce price for 2.5B. Buyer sends money ...... |
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1841
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Posted - 2017.05.08 06:39:12 -
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Krota Merga wrote:So new scam plan invented by CCP. Post char for sale in bazar, find buyer, then seller 'suddenly' realizes that he needs 20$ for transfer, but he does not have it. Seller kindly asks buyer send him money by Paypal or bank transfer with promise to reduce price for 2.5B. Buyer sends money ......
This idea is that "simple" or "stupid" that more than one player will be scammed :) I will order some popcorn.... |
BSchneider
Bank Of Zion Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2017.05.08 07:42:32 -
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JuckFames 315 wrote: Ok lets cut to the chase here how many have you even pay for your account or spend any RL money on the game? If no then please shut up you are not allowed to have an opinion because companies can not and will not be able to support a game where the majority of the player base do not make a monetary contribution. Stuff doesn't just run for free. If people wish for it to continue to be free for all to play and not spend any type of money on the game 1 of 2 things will happen the game ceases to exist or it becomes an AD driven game like every other Facebook or mobile game. It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred. If you asked me the only thing in game currency should be able buy would be anything made and/or produced in game period and that there also should be a cap on total currency/storage allowed on alpha accounts. Yes the player base may drop at first but it will weed out anyone who plays this game for making a profit off of it and allow people who actually enjoy playing the game to keep playing. CCP you have one heck of a great game with lots of different aspects to take part in at any given time. And yes there are few bugs here and there heck even the big AAA title games have problems but those guys just milk people for money on rehashed garbage while you guys work to improve a single game that has existed for this long. I will continue to pay my sub for my accounts with RL money WHY because this game offers so many options for just 1 person to be active in and I know that money will be used to help improve the game and its many adventures in space a person could have.
I completely agree - well said pilot o7 |
Korvin
Shadow Kingdom Best Alliance
607
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Posted - 2017.05.08 13:42:03 -
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Tiirz
Charlies' Point
6
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Posted - 2017.05.08 16:12:18 -
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"Trchnical limitation" is a cope out answer and you know it ccp. Really what you're saying is "we were too lazy to add this feature, and realized we could milk money out of it so we'll pretend we might fix it but we won't. " Starting down this path is NOT were you want to take eve, and I highly suggest for the health of this game you actually put forth effort to fix this so called problem immediately. |
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VallyInDaClub
The Nexus 7's Solyaris Chtonium
4
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Posted - 2017.05.08 17:13:08 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:This is something that wasn't included in the release with the PLEX changes, as it's caused by a technical limitation with the way the new PLEX system works. The plan is to look at this down the future and potentially reintroduce paying for this with PLEX, but at this stage we're not committed to a timeline on when this will happen. Hope this answers your question
That is such a crap answer. Seriously, be honest and just say "No we found a way to make money" rather than spewing that guff
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VallyInDaClub
The Nexus 7's Solyaris Chtonium
4
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Posted - 2017.05.08 17:14:59 -
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JuckFames 315 wrote: Ok lets cut to the chase here how many have you even pay for your account or spend any RL money on the game? If no then please shut up you are not allowed to have an opinion because companies can not and will not be able to support a game where the majority of the player base do not make a monetary contribution. Stuff doesn't just run for free. If people wish for it to continue to be free for all to play and not spend any type of money on the game 1 of 2 things will happen the game ceases to exist or it becomes an AD driven game like every other Facebook or mobile game. It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred. If you asked me the only thing in game currency should be able buy would be anything made and/or produced in game period and that there also should be a cap on total currency/storage allowed on alpha accounts. Yes the player base may drop at first but it will weed out anyone who plays this game for making a profit off of it and allow people who actually enjoy playing the game to keep playing. CCP you have one heck of a great game with lots of different aspects to take part in at any given time. And yes there are few bugs here and there heck even the big AAA title games have problems but those guys just milk people for money on rehashed garbage while you guys work to improve a single game that has existed for this long. I will continue to pay my sub for my accounts with RL money WHY because this game offers so many options for just 1 person to be active in and I know that money will be used to help improve the game and its many adventures in space a person could have.
That would be fine and dandy if it wasn't for the complete nonsense reply of "We're not committing to a timeline but we intend to fix it" If it weren't for the guff you wouldn't have the huff. |
Zanthar Eos
Collapsed Out Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2017.05.08 17:16:28 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:This is something that wasn't included in the release with the PLEX changes, as it's caused by a technical limitation with the way the new PLEX system works. The plan is to look at this down the future and potentially reintroduce paying for this with PLEX, but at this stage we're not committed to a timeline on when this will happen. Hope this answers your question Can we seriously just stop with putting out these half baked systems? There was nothing at all wrong with the current plex system, and replacing it with a incomplete one tends to not be a very smart or popular option. |
David Gradivus
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2017.05.08 17:30:36 -
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Surely you guys can figure out a way to not remove PLEX as an option. Maybe not ******* change PLEX when it doesn't need to be changed? |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Lost Obsession
1662
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Posted - 2017.05.08 18:18:24 -
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Why so late.? Was expecting that for years.
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Joey Bags
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2017.05.08 18:23:47 -
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BSchneider wrote:JuckFames 315 wrote: Ok lets cut to the chase here how many have you even pay for your account or spend any RL money on the game? If no then please shut up you are not allowed to have an opinion because companies can not and will not be able to support a game where the majority of the player base do not make a monetary contribution. Stuff doesn't just run for free. If people wish for it to continue to be free for all to play and not spend any type of money on the game 1 of 2 things will happen the game ceases to exist or it becomes an AD driven game like every other Facebook or mobile game. It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred. If you asked me the only thing in game currency should be able buy would be anything made and/or produced in game period and that there also should be a cap on total currency/storage allowed on alpha accounts. Yes the player base may drop at first but it will weed out anyone who plays this game for making a profit off of it and allow people who actually enjoy playing the game to keep playing. CCP you have one heck of a great game with lots of different aspects to take part in at any given time. And yes there are few bugs here and there heck even the big AAA title games have problems but those guys just milk people for money on rehashed garbage while you guys work to improve a single game that has existed for this long. I will continue to pay my sub for my accounts with RL money WHY because this game offers so many options for just 1 person to be active in and I know that money will be used to help improve the game and its many adventures in space a person could have. I completely agree - well said pilot o7
Plex in fact does mean real money is being spent on the game. I would expect this to be fixed "relatively" soon. It will cost CCP some actual money in the interim while it is being addressed and will certainly have an effect on plex prices. The real danger for CCP is this will cause a certain amount of RMT character trading which is what the whole 2 plex to transfer beat dead several years ago. It will rise up from the ashes and need to be squashed again.
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Nova Valentis
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
19
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Posted - 2017.05.08 18:47:56 -
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/69ysbh/tears_starting_tomorrow_we_will_only_be_able_to/
that guy makes sense, please listen CCP. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
10970
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Posted - 2017.05.08 19:09:17 -
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I wonder if this oversight has more implications than just character trading. There's more stuff that PLEX was used for, such as P4G, FF, AT and other events.
Are we going to find that CCP forgot to tell us some other important failure of the system at the last second? "Oh, sorry guys, you can't PLEX for the Alliance Tournament. Just send $20, instead."
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k898
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2017.05.08 19:18:25 -
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Im happy you have added using real-life money. But to completely remove the PLEX element is stupid and wrong. I have paid a couple of thousand in my EVE history. I now have enough ISK to manage most of my characters (tho i do sub some with RL money to help CCP) but it dont want to pay more money to move an account between characters |
Roxie Glitz
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2017.05.08 19:45:11 -
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CCPls don't go through with this. I love the character bazaar and this change will kill it. |
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Othran
Route One
776
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Posted - 2017.05.08 20:25:45 -
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Mmm seems like a "lets monetise this, 0.2% (example) of the subscribers use it" play from CCP to me.
Of course I'm an incorrigable cynic when it comes to CCP since "Greed is Good" hit the fan.... |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3706
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Posted - 2017.05.08 20:31:48 -
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Nova Valentis wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/69ysbh/tears_starting_tomorrow_we_will_only_be_able_to/
that guy makes sense, please listen CCP. Character transfers hardly qualify as in-game actions. If so, can you give me the lore for it? It's an out-of-game account service. Nevertheless as other account services can be paid for with ISK via PLEX, this feature should be restored.
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Jonatan Reed
Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED
95
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Posted - 2017.05.08 21:33:33 -
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This is an obvious attempt for CCP to monetize something completely that was only partially monetized before because of PLEX.
This is just a cash grab and it's really bad that CCP thinks they can just pass it off as an oversight.
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48and87rock Dingus
The Dingus Coalition Orbital Velocity
2
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Posted - 2017.05.08 22:16:48 -
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Jonatan Reed wrote:This is an obvious attempt for CCP to monetize something completely that was only partially monetized before because of PLEX.
This is just a cash grab and it's really bad that CCP thinks they can just pass it off as an oversight.
This.
Also we all know that after this issue has faded from the spot light ccp will never actually do anything about it. So many times they have said that we will look at something in the future and haven't. Do the right thing ccp and fix this now.
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Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
341
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Posted - 2017.05.08 22:22:31 -
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it really does need to be fixed, considering what sparked the summer of rage ( i believe that was the terminology)
"Greed is good", but is it really?
If it comes way too slow, or never gets fixed.
Does character bazaar just go away? or Does monuments in game get another face lift? |
Zhele Jamohrr
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
8
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Posted - 2017.05.08 22:29:03 -
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It's OK that you make mistakes, CCP. It's... unprofessional at best... that you handle them in this manner.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
28204
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Posted - 2017.05.08 22:32:35 -
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k898 wrote:Im happy you have added using real-life money. But to completely remove the PLEX element is stupid and wrong. I have paid a couple of thousand in my EVE history. I now have enough ISK to manage most of my characters (tho i do sub some with RL money to help CCP) but it dont want to pay more money to move an account between characters You've been able to use real money to cover character transfers for years so it's not an addition at all.
If the "we're looking into it" is anything like the paypal "promise" I doubt we'll see PLEX returning as a payment method for character transfers.
It looks like CCP's solution to reimbursing removed aurum by splitting PLEX has come back to bite them in the arse.
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Posted - 2017.05.09 00:35:25 -
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Bjorn Tyrson wrote:Kinga Artrald wrote:This is obviously an attempt to make more money in the meantime while "we look at this [in the future]". I mean, really how hard would it be to say 2xplex||500xplex2=transfer character. You guys know the exchange rate so, oh wait, nvm, we'll just sneak it in patch notes days before update so we can get some more micro transactions. So now anyone selling characters has to spend what, $20 bucks instead? 20 dollars is less than the price of 2 plex. CCP looses money off of this change. So it's safe to assume they will be fixing it ASAP
The PLEX was already paid for by someone who sold it for ISK
this is a new sale
PLEX could change hands in game a million times and CCP doesn't make any money, they don't make any money when it's used either , they just make money when they sell things , like PLEX or Character Transfers for cash |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
10974
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Posted - 2017.05.09 01:16:26 -
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forums wrote:Bjorn Tyrson wrote:Kinga Artrald wrote:This is obviously an attempt to make more money in the meantime while "we look at this [in the future]". I mean, really how hard would it be to say 2xplex||500xplex2=transfer character. You guys know the exchange rate so, oh wait, nvm, we'll just sneak it in patch notes days before update so we can get some more micro transactions. So now anyone selling characters has to spend what, $20 bucks instead? 20 dollars is less than the price of 2 plex. CCP looses money off of this change. So it's safe to assume they will be fixing it ASAP The PLEX was already paid for by someone who sold it for ISK this is a new sale PLEX could change hands in game a million times and CCP doesn't make any money, they don't make any money when it's used either , they just make money when they sell things , like PLEX or Character Transfers for cash What it does for CCP and for the game when PLEX is used for a character transfer is remove 2.5 billion ISK from the economy. This a good thing from my perspective.
As for the "new sale" thing. That assumes people will still be trading characters and moving them from one account to the other.
Pretty unlikely.
So reduced new sales and reduced ISK sink with no nerf that I've seen to ISK creation. Not exactly top shelf economic theory.
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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
877
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Posted - 2017.05.09 01:57:11 -
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forums wrote: The PLEX was already paid for by someone who sold it for ISK
this is a new sale
PLEX could change hands in game a million times and CCP doesn't make any money, they don't make any money when it's used either , they just make money when they sell things , like PLEX or Character Transfers for cash
PLEX appear on the income reports CCP have put out as deferred revenue. So while $20 in (a reduced number of) new sales is a big deal, transferring $40 from deferred revenue into realized revenue is no small thing, either.
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