
Dominixa
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.14 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi It was said very well by many already - Bob may want Respect, but they will NEVER get it due to their style of play and past cheating. I recognize that they may be the strongest power in Eve, and that they have great players and a strong organization. They do also frequently come up with innovative attacks which yield spectacular success. However, it is obvious that they care nothing for HOW they achieve those goals. As Cases in Point:
1. The past cheating. No one will ever believe that it was 'the actions of one man'. Entire Alliance is forever tainted. 2. The first Titan kill. What should have been the most spectacular Spy success of all time just left the rest of Eve feeling like Bob was an Exploiter. 3. TS Spies. Bob probably has the best Spy Service in all of Eve. I agree it is part of the game, but most players would rather it didn't happen. Using Spies is by definition underhanded and dirty, and Bob's liberal use of spying taints the entire alliance. 4. Bob Pets: Every alliance that Bob 'allys with' is treated as a second-class citizen. The distain that they show for their own 'allies', not to mention their enemies, causes a lack of Respect for Bob. 5. Passive Targeting through POS shields: Item One on a long list of 'borderline exploits' that Bob used. They seen rather profiecient in finding 'undocumented features' which later become Exploits or are fixed by CCP. Honestly, I feel like this type of information was provided to them by their corrupt Dev. Regardeless, Bob finds a ploy, then designs attacks around it until it is banned or fixed. 6. Broken Complexes: Bob had the broken complexes for quite some time, and only when Dark Shinari pointed it out was it fixed. Surely Bob knew they were broken, yet continued to exploit it until it was fixed. Typical behavior, and not behavior that promotes respect. 7. POS Bowling: Another Bob innovation, which while clearly within the present rules is a corruption of the spirit of Eve. Expect them to continue until some fix stops them. 8. Stealing ships in POS's: Past rules, similar to POS Bowling, allowed someone to warp in and hop in a ship before being ejected from the shields. Another example of Bob's below-the-belt playing style. 9. Bob Directors in other alliances: Not content with attempting to build the best Alliance, Bob has been known to infiltrate other Corps/Alliances and direct them down a path that leads them to ruin. Again, its in the game mechanics, but underhanded and against the spirit of the game. 10. Metagaming: A variety of out-of-game events have occurred which rightly or wrongly have been blamed on Bob. Again, the attitude conveyed by Bob is that any means to achieve victory are acceptable. Such activites leave the rest of Eve with a lowered impression of Bob.
I could go on, but the point is that Bob's means to their dominance have caused too many people to consider them a 'dirty' alliance. Hence the recent Coalition to destroy them. In my opinion Bob is so heavily tainted by their own actions that they will never get Respect for the things that they have accomplished.
This taint can never be cleansed. Even if Bob turned into an honorable, straightforward group overnight, no one will ever believe that they are not cheating. Certainly not me.
Your quite wrong on many points.
Point #4 Bob Pets as you so call them are no different than the Northern Entities who rely on Dusk and Dawn, except Bob actually has your back when you need it. You can say they don't treat us well, but how would you know? If being a partner in dealing pain to enemies is being treated badly, then so be it.
Point #7 POS bowling is nothing new, Just ask Ign0ramous from the Establishment about that :) He nearly bumped a chimera out of one of our towers many months before people say "BOB" Invented it.
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