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manus
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Posted - 2017.05.07 13:54:20 -
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The shares are already implemented. With a in-game stock market i think it will give players an additional mechanic to come up with interesting gameplay. |

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Posted - 2017.05.07 14:20:18 -
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In a time when shares in EVE can be traded among players on some sort of stock exchange (I think CCP should get to work on this ASAP, its a cool feature) there are a few problems as far as i can tell. For example players who quit EVE would have shares that are paying out dividends. This is a problem because, well, the money is going into a black hole.
A solution to this "problem" could be that when dividends are paid out players would have to claim them. But there would have to be a timer on this claim. I was thinking what would be fair, but instead ended up thinking why dont the CEO set up the timer when he makes the dividend?
So when you payout the dividend, you also chose the time that people have to claim it. All the money gets reserved, and if there is any left over because people havent claimed it, it gets returned to the corp. This is useful for corps who want to do weekly or monthly or perhaps even daily dividends. Its hard to say which people will prefer and it will be nice for players to have some flexibility here to experiment with. |

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Posted - 2017.05.07 14:25:24 -
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You could take this idea of stocks pretty far. For example they could be made into in-game items, so that they are vulnerable to piracy and theft.
You could have a new type of station that was specifically for stock exchange.
The stock exchange could be player built and thus destructible.
I think its this type of thing that will push EVE online in the right direction and keep players interested as well as attract new ones.
For example the idea is very marketable. Afaik there is no other MMO that has in-game stock exchange. It could make some great headlines.
And the first stock exchange that gets blown up etc. could also make some interesting headlines depending on the damage etc.
All in all i think this kind of feature is something CCP ought to focus their full attention on. |

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Posted - 2017.05.07 15:39:33 -
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Do Little wrote:The problem is there is no SEC in New Eden.
Why is that a problem? Players would not buy shares unless they trusted the company. And those who buy shares without doing due diligence deserve to get rekt?
Quote:You are free to sell shares in your corporation or buy shares in someone elses but it's a trust based transaction.
Depends on what you mean by free. At the moment buying and selling shares is poorly supported by game mechanics. The functionality to do it is very crude. I think there should be a stock exchange that made it easy for players to list, buy and sell shares. It could work just like the market browser, it has just the right amount of info/functionality. Volume, historic price and even a chart for visual representation of price movement etc.
Quote:As for someone who is leaving because of boring updates you sure propose boring updates. (More) market pvp is not I'd enjoy to see. Trillionaires are already bad as they are (remember that one that bought half of the game?), no need for quadrillionaires. Stock exchange is heaven for speculation as you don't even deal in real goods anymore.
Just because you dont like something does not mean its a bad idea. Besides, i am giving suggestions for how the game could be made more interesting for me. Perhaps you should do the same instead of complain? Do you understand what im saying? Where is your suggestion for how to make the game better? (Ddont post it here. its a rhetorical question.) |

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Posted - 2017.05.07 18:59:32 -
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Quote:Because stock exchange needs modern world's law and regulation system to operate but EVE,
Fake news. All a stock exchange is, is a way for players to trade shares. It doesent need any oversight, for reasons i mention above. Players wont buy shares from corps they dont trust and dont have a reputation, and those who do run a risk and kind of deserve to get rekt if it turns out to be a scam. Of course the most trustworthy shares are going to be most valuable and least trustworthy are going to be least valuable. I cant believe i have to point this out. |

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Posted - 2017.05.11 17:14:26 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:manus wrote:Quote:Because stock exchange needs modern world's law and regulation system to operate but EVE, Fake news. All a stock exchange is, is a way for players to trade shares.I I laughed harder about this naivete than I probably should. Modern stock exchanges are not about trading shares, they are about speculating on how a market
You naive son of a *****. We are not talking about a modern stock exchange here. They are over complicated and over regulated. And there is no need for that in EVE online. So why are you talking about a modern stock exchange? Are you a moron?
You are delibarety complicating things for no reason. I suspect that you are another of the trolls who only hang out on features and ideas section to troll. Get a life.
Anyway, unlike Rivr Luzade who is a complete moron, the idea doesent have to complicated. You start out with basic functionality, list, buy and sell. Just take the current market browser and adapt it for shares. You would have different categories. 1B market valuation companies, 20B market valuation etc. This idea could be expanded to great lengths like i already mentioned and really introduce some interesting game mechanics for players. If you cant see that you are blind. |

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Posted - 2017.05.11 17:25:57 -
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Do Little wrote:If you want a stock market, set yourself up as a broker and create one. CCP doesn't need to create any tools. I can go to my wallet and give shares to anyone I please. They can give me ISK in exchange. Since this is a 100% trust based relationship, the only missing piece is a broker to bring buyer and seller together.
Ok well in that case lets take out the contracts system and the market browser then since people can just create their own contracts and market browser, right? |
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