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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.05.12 01:07:00 -
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Is it kill the hippie day? If so I must have missed it 
I could just as easily quote the amount of fat, lazy, meat eaters who die each day. I mean really. This an isolated case ffs, and really not worth the post. if anyone is pushing an agenda its you.
While I am a meat eater, I only eat organic everything. The proponents of a vegan/vego lifestyle have brought a lot of important information to light regarding animal cruelty, diet, the ridiculous amounts of additives and hormones that riddle foods these days. Have you seen how long it takes our bodies to rot due to all these additives? Think of what its doing to us while we are alive.
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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.05.12 03:32:00 -
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Edited by: Locus Bey on 12/05/2007 03:31:03
 Originally by: Andicuri Vas
Originally by: Locus Bey
The proponents of a vegan/vego lifestyle have brought a lot of important information to light regarding animal cruelty, diet, the ridiculous amounts of additives and hormones that riddle foods these days. Have you seen how long it takes our bodies to rot due to all these additives? Think of what its doing to us while we are alive.
Unfortunately, they don't make much of a case for longevity.
/saws bright red ribeye
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 I would suggest your average vegan/vego lives longer and healthier.
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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.05.12 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hypatia Iola
and i would refute your claim, as all the people i can think of that i know who have killed themselves(or attempted, as they might in the future) have been vegan... but that's personal experience.
it's all about balance, personally i can't stand veggies most of the time, but meh...
that's your refutation?
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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.05.12 09:05:00 -
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It truely amazes me how ignorant some of you can be. It's about time you did some reading, instead of making ridiculous off the cuff statements that are completely incorrect. You ever heard of India? of Buddhism? In case you didn't realise it over 1/5 of the worlds population is covered just there as vegetarians, and have been so for a few thousand years. And whether a diet is vego or vegan it is beyond simple to make it balanced
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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.05.12 11:13:00 -
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i said the average vegan/vego was probably healthier and lived longer, not all. read more carefully 
of course what those parents did was unconscionable, but its hardly representative of vego/vegans. if you read the article you would see as the prosecutor aptly puts it ôThe child died because he was not fed. Period.ö thats the point not whether the parents where vegan.
a balanced diet doesn't require meat ffs. you can get everything you need as a vego/vegan quite easily. in fact you are more likely to get a 'balanced' diet from being vego/vegan given that you eat a greater variety of foods, probably in season, and you are better able to digest them than those diets heavier in meat. just for your own knowledge why don't you take the time to look up vego/vegan diet and see for yourselves  as i said before india is predominately vego, and has been so since god knows when. you'd think if it was unhealthy they would know by now 
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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.05.12 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Locus Bey on 12/05/2007 11:21:57
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
could you not take vitamin supplements if you are a vegan or is that not usually the done thing?
fkin stupid parents though.
yes you can. more to the point there are numerous vegetables and fruits that contain all the necessary irons, etc that 1 commentator mentioned as reason for meat being required. just look at things like spinach/okra/brocolli, nuts, tofu, cerals, legumes, rice, figs/almonds, to name a few.
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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.05.12 23:12:00 -
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While breast milk is the natural choice for most mothers, there are as you should know those mothers who cannot breastfeed. There are also babies born who are lactose intolerant, for whom soy based formula is a very good alternative (note soy formula does not cause allergies/there are very few if any formulas available that are actually vegan, so this clueless couple were on the wrong track from the start).
This whole issue of 'forcing' a vegan diet on a baby/child that a few of you seem to find criminal, shows you are nigh on as ignorant with regard to vegeo/vegan diets as the couple of this baby. food for thought
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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.05.13 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Arian Snow
Edited by: Arian Snow on 13/05/2007 02:24:33
Edited by: Arian Snow on 13/05/2007 02:22:08
Vegans and vegetarians are different! look the terms up and dont mention them in the same argument!
I fight karate tournaments and I know some ufc fighters... I have never heard of a vegan fighter though some who are vegetarians do exist. However to make their body fit they need to eat additivies and that kind of takes away from the whole concept of vegetarism!
Its much much easier living a healthy fit life with meat! Its a natural part of the human diet has been so as long as we have existed!
The only vegans I have met are pale and frail.
Anyhow the baby died because of fanatic vegan parents, such stories are allways tragic!
i guess you never heard of shaolin monks
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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.05.13 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Arian Snow
they are vegetarian not vegans!
also they arent fighters they are martial artists!
no, your point was vegos need to take supplements. shaolin monks don't take supplements. and you would hardly suggest they are unhealthy.
given the amount of ufc fighters who take steroids your point of supplements is also a laughable one. and why bother distinguishing between a fighter and a martial artist anyway, don't really see the point?
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