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Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.05.12 19:03:00 - [1] Potential Investors, thankyou for considering investing in my offering. This is the second bond issue I have undertaken, the first was [LMTA] and it was very sucessful, selling out in under 2 days. This offering has some different features which I am sure you will find appealing. The link to my original thread is here, so please check that out for all the "who are you" and "how can we trust you" type questions. Also please dont reply to the thread and necro it. I am going to invest this isk in various projects, like I did with the capital raised from the first bond offering. The bulk of it will go into expanding my capital ships business furthur. These are bonds, not shares, so they give the holders no voting rights in regards to the running of the business, because the returns are not linked to the corporation's performance. The Offer I am selling 40,000 bonds for 1m isk each. Each bond will have a fixed monthly return of 7% of the purchase price, or 70,000 isk. The dividend will be paid on the first of each month. These bonds are perpetuities which means there is no fixed date of maturity, they keep going similar to shares. There will be a buyback option however. I will buy up to 5% of the bonds per month for people that need isk quickly. I will also buy them all back at some date in the future, and when I decide to exercise that option, I will pay the investors a bonus 10% premium on top of their monthly interest. If anyone excercises the early buyback option, rather than selling them on the open market, the following rates will apply: 2nd - 15th of the month: 90% of face value. 16th - end of the month: 95% of face value. This is to stop people abusing the system by purchasing bonds at the end of the month then after getting a dividend, selling them back for a quick profit. On a similar note, people purchasing bonds from me in the second half of the month (excluding May - first interest payment will be for June) will recieve their bonds on the 2nd of the following month. As explained in the thread from my last IPO, if I decide to quit EVE or something along those lines, my assets will be liquidated and all investors will get their isk back. Another similarity is that I can cover the interest payments from this issue with my current income, so there would have to be extraordinaty circumstances for me to not be able to deliver. If and when the current issue has sold out and the money invested, If I believe it would be profitable and manageable, I may choose to expand this offering by creating more bonds (shares in game) and selling them. If you are interested in these please have a look at the SALES THREAD here for purchase instructions. Please post any questions, comments you have here, and feel free to contact me in game. I remind you that some of them may have already been answered in the previous thread, so please check there first. Thankyou, Ionia
Flying Spur	Posted - 2007.05.12 21:18:00 - [2] Edited by: Flying Spur on 12/05/2007 21:20:43 Edited by: Flying Spur on 12/05/2007 21:19:16 - --- The Rolls-Royce of EVE Pilots
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.05.13 05:36:00 - [3] Ionia, how much in dividends have you paid thus far off LMTA and over how long? Whilst I do think you are trustworthy, don't you think you are moving a bit 'bull at a gate'. You only begun selling off LMTA 1 month ago. So 1 month ago you raised 20b off the public Today you request an additional 40b. 2-4 months ago, you begun frequenting the in-game EGSEx channel, and 6 months ago you were unheard of. 1.5 years ago, you weren't born in Eve yet Whilst I think you are trustworthy, and have probably dealt with you more than a lot of other people have in Eve, your new offering definetly does give me one of those feelings. Tell me i'm crazy. Sick of the waits with empire research slots? Use mine!
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.05.13 08:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Ricdic Ionia, how much in dividends have you paid thus far off LMTA and over how long? Whilst I do think you are trustworthy, don't you think you are moving a bit 'bull at a gate'. You only begun selling off LMTA 1 month ago. So 1 month ago you raised 20b off the public Today you request an additional 40b. 2-4 months ago, you begun frequenting the in-game EGSEx channel, and 6 months ago you were unheard of. 1.5 years ago, you weren't born in Eve yet Whilst I think you are trustworthy, and have probably dealt with you more than a lot of other people have in Eve, your new offering definetly does give me one of those feelings. Tell me i'm crazy. You're crazy. LMTA has paid its first dividend only thus far. I guess if you think of me as some evil guy, it could look like im trying to get a lot of isk, fast. If you, however, think of me as a legit businessperson, it tells you that I have alerady put the LMTA isk to work, and have plenty of opourtunity to get more isk working for me as well. I've been in the EGSEx channel longer that that :) I have been brokering (for free might I add) for that long. As for 1.5 years ago, this is the fourth character I have created, so I have been in the game longer than that. My other characters (this being my main now) are well known to many, as was stated in the previous thread I liked above. To be honest I'm a little surprised at you bringing this up, considering you actually know how passionate I am about the public market being a sucess, you have known about my free of charge brokering for a long time, I even handled a dutch style auction in a primary offering of your C-R-A shares completely free of charge, just as a means to demonstrate a good model to sell shares with to other CEOs. Anyway, at the end of the day, you either trust me, or you dont. It may be a little ironic that the features you are pointing to that give you an uneasy feeling are also the features that demonstrate a fast growing and sucessful business, but at the end of the day, there isnt anything I can do about that.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:50:00 - [5] Quote: You're crazy. LMTA has paid its first dividend only thus far. I guess if you think of me as some evil guy, it could look like im trying to get a lot of isk, fast. If you, however, think of me as a legit businessperson, it tells you that I have alerady put the LMTA isk to work, and have plenty of opourtunity to get more isk working for me as well. I've been in the EGSEx channel longer that that :) I have been brokering (for free might I add) for that long. As for 1.5 years ago, this is the fourth character I have created, so I have been in the game longer than that. My other characters (this being my main now) are well known to many, as was stated in the previous thread I liked above. To be honest I'm a little surprised at you bringing this up, considering you actually know how passionate I am about the public market being a sucess, you have known about my free of charge brokering for a long time, I even handled a dutch style auction in a primary offering of your C-R-A shares completely free of charge, just as a means to demonstrate a good model to sell shares with to other CEOs. Anyway, at the end of the day, you either trust me, or you dont. It may be a little ironic that the features you are pointing to that give you an uneasy feeling are also the features that demonstrate a fast growing and sucessful business, but at the end of the day, there isnt anything I can do about that. Don't get me wrong, i do trust you. I just feel 1 month (for anyone with limited previous rep) before a major expansion doubling their previous offering seems too short. People are investing in you regardless as they are do believe you are trustworthy as do I. You have always stuck to your word and know more about business than I will ever know, it just seems soon Best of luck anyway, I will probably still invest in you. One more question. Will you have another IPO next month for 80b? If so, let me know so I can start saving Sick of the waits with empire research slots? Use mine!
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.05.13 12:00:00 - [6] No other IPOs are planned for the future currently. :)
Flying Spur	Posted - 2007.05.13 13:44:00 - [7] so because you have brokered some share transactions in the past for free we should all trust you with 60 billion isk. The problem i have is the same as ricdic, why launch a second IPO so soon after you launched the last one? 1 month is hardly a long enough time to prove that your trustworthy at all, this feels to me like you woke up one morning and decided you would see if you can get an additional 40 billion just for the hell of it. 60 billion in one person is a little too much to give to someone who has done nothing yet to prove themselves in this game, and brokering shares for a few months and being vocal on these forums isnt enough for me. --- The Rolls-Royce of EVE Pilots
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Flying Spur so because you have brokered some share transactions in the past for free we should all trust you with 60 billion isk. The problem i have is the same as ricdic, why launch a second IPO so soon after you launched the last one? 1 month is hardly a long enough time to prove that your trustworthy at all, this feels to me like you woke up one morning and decided you would see if you can get an additional 40 billion just for the hell of it. 60 billion in one person is a little too much to give to someone who has done nothing yet to prove themselves in this game, and brokering shares for a few months and being vocal on these forums isnt enough for me. Thats no prob at all. If anyone has doubts, don't invest. It is as simple as that. Thanks for keeping it civil too, often you get "you are a scammer" type comments, and you've kept the wild accusations out of it.
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:20:00 - [9] Originally by: Flying Spur so because you have brokered some share transactions in the past for free we should all trust you with 60 billion isk. The problem i have is the same as ricdic, why launch a second IPO so soon after you launched the last one? 1 month is hardly a long enough time to prove that your trustworthy at all, this feels to me like you woke up one morning and decided you would see if you can get an additional 40 billion just for the hell of it. 60 billion in one person is a little too much to give to someone who has done nothing yet to prove themselves in this game, and brokering shares for a few months and being vocal on these forums isnt enough for me. there's always isso, bmbe, emfi and aatp in which to invest.
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:29:00 - [10] Another 40 billion is a bit high in that I don't think there's enough isk in the market that Ionia could capture relatively quickly and it would take weeks to get it. From a purely impartial point of view, going this fast fits the return rate of a possible ponzi scheme. Ionia, however, is one of those people that I trust more than other people. I can't afford to invest in this but if I could, I would invest a little. More disclosure of the business plan would help, but honestly Ionia will get that 40b one way or another. There are plenty of people that trust her and I hope that trust isn't misplaced. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.05.13 20:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Nyphur Another 40 billion is a bit high in that I don't think there's enough isk in the market that Ionia could capture relatively quickly and it would take weeks to get it. From a purely impartial point of view, going this fast fits the return rate of a possible ponzi scheme. Ionia, however, is one of those people that I trust more than other people. I can't afford to invest in this but if I could, I would invest a little. More disclosure of the business plan would help, but honestly Ionia will get that 40b one way or another. There are plenty of people that trust her and I hope that trust isn't misplaced. Thanks for your kind words :) Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd there's always isso, bmbe, emfi and aatp in which to invest. Yep, coincidentally I broker all of these for free on EGSE, so if you do want to invest in those shares, take a look at EGSE, theres a link in my bio, and also in the MOTD of the channel EGSEx
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.05.13 21:18:00 - [12] Thanks a lot everyone whos invested so far. About 6.2b in the first day.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.05.13 22:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Ionia Thanks a lot everyone whos invested so far. About 6.2b in the first day. You are welcome. At some point, no matter the reputation of the people involved in a project, it still comes down to a crap shoot. So I figure, at the worst, better you scam me than a fly-by-night scammer. And if you don't... well ... cool. The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. ElweSingollo> Eve is P v P not P v GM.
Erfnam Time Cube Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.14 17:59:00 - [14] I invested a little bit in this venture. I'm treating it as a hedge for TCCS. Sales: Capital Ships \| Covetors Delivered - Bulk/Package/BYOM
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.05.16 05:29:00 - [15] Over 20% sold so far guys, thanks :) Still plenty more though, so get investing ;)
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.05.21 22:06:00 - [16] Lots of mailed in orders lately, can I remind everyone to please send the isk and order to FRPB Manager not to me. Thanks :)
Shae Laurel	Posted - 2007.05.26 18:46:00 - [17] How many bonds have been sold so far? /Shae
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.05.26 19:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Shae Laurel How many bonds have been sold so far? /Shae Not sure of exact numbers, I believe its somewhere around 15-18b
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.05.28 16:40:00 - [19] Damn, if I didn't happen to spend a whole bunch of my liquid isk recently (which you probably recall) I'd probably be investing a large sum in this. I only got a chance to invest 1 billion in your previous venture before it sold out... would have put a lot more into this one. We'll see how fast I can get some money built up... I may be investing a good chunk in the near future. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.06.08 00:40:00 - [20] Just an update - FRPB has sold out. Thanks to all the investors.
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2007.06.08 08:53:00 - [21] Originally by: Ionia Just an update - FRPB has sold out. Grats. \| All Current Tech II BPO Auctions \| BMBE ISK Loans \|
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.08 15:11:00 - [22] Originally by: Ionia Just an update - FRPB has sold out. Thanks to all the investors. Did I get special treatment?
Ionia Advanced Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.09.08 15:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Originally by: Ionia Just an update - FRPB has sold out. Thanks to all the investors. Did I get special treatment? That was many months ago, new shares have been created since then.
Gem 2Grind	Posted - 2007.12.02 19:52:00 - [24] is there a new sales thread? as the one linked is marked as close. I'm interested in 330 shares now. thanks
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.12.02 20:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Gem 2Grind is there a new sales thread? as the one linked is marked as close. I'm interested in 330 shares now. thanks It's sold out... as stated in the thread. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.02 20:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Gem 2Grind is there a new sales thread? as the one linked is marked as close. I'm interested in 330 shares now. thanks I am selling thousands over here Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Gem 2Grind	Posted - 2007.12.02 22:04:00 - [27] thanks guys, the only reason I asked was that the FBR manage bio says round 3 on sale. thanks again. enjoy
Imperius Blackheart Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.19 19:44:00 - [28] I have 950 of these bonds, i'm looking to sell them for 910 million. A quick 40 mil for whoever buys them. [/url] Proud member of the Caldari Death Squad
Kwint Sommer Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.02.19 19:55:00 - [29] Originally by: Imperius Blackheart I have 950 of these bonds, i'm looking to sell them for 910 million. A quick 40 mil for whoever buys them. I'll take them. I'm on now and will be on later tonight. 5% Mining & Manufacturing Implants
Kwint Sommer Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.02.19 20:54:00 - [30] My system died at the most inopportune moment....logging in and sending ISK now. 5% Mining & Manufacturing Implants
Imperius Blackheart Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.19 20:58:00 - [31] Originally by: Kwint Sommer My system died at the most inopportune moment....logging in and sending ISK now. It would appear that I was mistaken, and indeed Kwint is a man of his word. A pleasure to do business with you sir. And my god your PC chose a bad time to crash :P [/url] Proud member of the Caldari Death Squad
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.19 21:37:00 - [32] Originally by: Imperius Blackheart I have 950 of these bonds, i'm looking to sell them for 910 million. A quick 40 mil for whoever buys them. Actually it's more like a quick 300+ mil since they have been selling for 1.3+ per as far as I know. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Imodesky Kafelnikov	Posted - 2008.02.19 21:40:00 - [33] Oh Ionia, where are you?
DarkStar251	Posted - 2008.02.19 21:47:00 - [34] Originally by: Imodesky Kafelnikov Oh Ionia, where are you? Firstly, you've said you are not a bondholder, so I'm not sure what your concern is. Secondly, Ionia has a hell of alot of accounts, just because you haven't seen the Ionia character much, is meaningless. Hell, he could just have 100 lab alts running BS BPO copying for all we know, in which case 1 hr a month would be enough time to put them all in for another month and dump them on the market.
Imodesky Kafelnikov	Posted - 2008.02.19 21:56:00 - [35] My concern is that a buisness partner with a great deal of my assets has disappeard. I know how many accounts he has. I know his PVP alts. I know alot of his industrial alts. Cheers, Imode
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.02.20 05:38:00 - [36] Originally by: Imodesky Kafelnikov My concern is that a buisness partner with a great deal of my assets has disappeard. And this is how you choose to treat him? [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Daeva Vios	Posted - 2008.02.20 06:08:00 - [37] Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: Imodesky Kafelnikov My concern is that a buisness partner with a great deal of my assets has disappeard. And this is how you choose to treat him? How should he be treated, if he can't be contacted any other way?
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.20 06:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Daeva Vios Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: Imodesky Kafelnikov My concern is that a buisness partner with a great deal of my assets has disappeard. And this is how you choose to treat him? How should he be treated, if he can't be contacted any other way? any other way for the last 4 months..... --
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.02.20 06:25:00 - [39] Treelox says the guy has been trying. Can't blame him for bringing it out public. Don't think he's going to get much satisfaction via this method though. I've yet to see a single one of the old timer fund managers respond to forum harassment in any way that might be called favorable. And, considering the content of previous attempts to get Ionia's attention... If it were me he'd be lucky if he wasn't on my block list. Of course there is supposedly the matter of some assets in play. I'd return those forthwith and divest myself of someone so inclined as Imode has demonstrated. IMHO what I get from this whole business, from Imode's early postings, is Imode wanting to know what is Ionia's business. Imode can't seem to imagine any business that Ionia may have or be engaged in that allows Ionia to not log in regularly. Imode also appears to be under the impression that he knows all of Ionia's accounts and alts (And truly, only my closest friends in Eve know that in detail) and thus assumes that Ionia is paying dividends from the funds gathered... not from any actual activity. However, regarding the bond issue itself. Ionia pays the dividends as specified by the ipo/bond issuance statement that everyone read, agreed to, and purchased the bonds with. Ionia is not obligated to divulge the method nor means of profit. Just make the payments and honor any obligations in that initial prospectus. Thus, in the end, a lot of drama over one person's need to know when they've apparently built an expectation of it. It's nothing to do with this bond, to be honest, and Ionia may in fact be simply ignoring Imode quite specifically for good reason. Who are we to know? More importantly, since this seems to be a personal matter not related to MD or the bond... who the heck are we to judge/bother/whatever? To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Imodesky Kafelnikov	Posted - 2008.02.20 06:52:00 - [40] I dont claim to know all of his alts, however I do know many of the ones he frequented. So my first post did come out a bit wrong, however that was mainly because it was led that direction. As far as Ionia's buisness plan is concerned; I know what it was 4 months ago.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.02.20 07:00:00 - [41] Originally by: Imodesky Kafelnikov <stuff> So, I guess the real question is: What is your purpose here specifically? Is there some reason Ionia is not answering you? I know there are people in game I don't respond to because I choose not to respond to them. Or, more importantly, are you a bond holder or share holder? The gist of the problem here is, me thinks, that you are not being able to communicate with Ionia for whatever reason (Likely by Ionia's design). So, you've come here as a last ditch effort, you've spread a good healthy dose of FUD, and you hope that you'll antagonize Ionia enough to respond to you finally. And if not, you'll simply attempt a scorched earth attitude with Ionia's reputation... or so you believe. Now, I'm not at all trying to troll you mate. I'm just saying, from all that you've said the summary seems to be the above. And, well, if it is your issue would've been better posted on COAD than here. COAD people go for that sort of thing. Around here we have drama but we like to keep it to quantifiables if we can. To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Imodesky Kafelnikov	Posted - 2008.02.20 07:22:00 - [42] As far as I know there is no reason for Ionia not to contact me IF he has any idea that I am trying to get ahold of him. We were in the middle of trying to finish some buisness when he, well, i dunno. Disappeared? ect ect... Cheers, Imodesky Kafelnikov
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.02.20 07:26:00 - [43] Originally by: Imodesky Kafelnikov As far as I know there is no reason for Ionia not to contact me IF he has any idea that I am trying to get ahold of him. We were in the middle of trying to finish some buisness when he, well, i dunno. Disappeared? Thanks, now we have perspective that we can understand. I wish you luck in your efforts. To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.20 07:41:00 - [44] I know of others who havent been able to reach Ionia for months, even those attempting to reach him by the prescribed method in the bond write up for bond buy backs and reissuances. OFC those others would rather pine in silence or to people in game, since they fear they will be immediately branded a FUD spreader. --- I also know that the corp him and I used to be corp m8s in(FTEK), hasnt really seen hide nor hair of those characters of his that belong in that corp, nor to my understand on the corp forums, since about the same time as his disappearence in the begining of November. --- Last I'll say on this matter, for this month. --
Imodesky Kafelnikov	Posted - 2008.03.30 07:40:00 - [45] Im getting my camping gear out for monday. I got a feeling im going to be online all day waiting for Ionia.
Shadarle LI0NS Industries	Posted - 2008.03.30 08:54:00 - [46] It seems clear Ionia has disappeared... maybe one day to return... but at the moment the chance of getting a div on monday seems to be approaching zero quickly. I don't see why anyone should be attacked for wondering where the hell Ionia is on these forums, if that is considered rude, harassing, mean, annoying, etc then IPO's are doomed. When a CEO of an IPO/Bond disappears and fails to pay divs for an entire month and had been apparently playing less and less prior to that it is 100% fair for any shareholder, and even non shareholders, to ask what is going on and to keep asking until they get an answer. Frankly it's getting close to the point where Ionia is going to have to be labeled a scammer. Perhaps Ionia didn't intend to scam... perhaps it was a hit by a bus incident... perhaps the internet is inaccessable for some reason... but the end result is that at the moment all investors have lost all their money they had in him. So call it a scam, call it a failed business, call it a disappearing act... but don't get mad at people who call it what it is, a major problem.
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans Zzz	Posted - 2008.03.30 09:15:00 - [47] It's not like anyone questioned FRPB on post 2 of this thread or anything
Kwint Sommer	Posted - 2008.03.30 17:01:00 - [48] I'm giving it 90 days from the last dividend payout before I completely write it off in my books but it's really not looking good. Even now I'm starting to regret buying it at 400k. I prefer to think that it's a hit-by-a-bus situation but the fact that many people claim payments continued for months after Ionia essentially stopped playing and communicating with the rest of EVE makes me think that this is a case of Ionia loosing interest/time to play EVE and simply leaving all of his investors hanging. By the way, nice call Ricdic. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
YouGotRipped	Posted - 2008.03.30 18:05:00 - [49] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 30/03/2008 18:06:46 Originally by: Daeva Vios Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: Imodesky Kafelnikov My concern is that a buisness partner with a great deal of my assets has disappeard. And this is how you choose to treat him? How should he be treated, if he can't be contacted any other way? There's nothing left to treat? :)) I only wish I joined these forums sooner.
Vinchester Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.30 20:22:00 - [50] thanks for 40b+.
IceWarriors Republic University	Posted - 2008.03.30 20:23:00 - [51] Edited by: IceWarriors on 30/03/2008 20:24:27 responded to an old post by accident... ooops
Kwint Sommer Lothian Quay Industries	Posted - 2008.03.30 20:28:00 - [52] Thanks to a very badly timed computer crash (that video card has been RMA'ed) I received the shares, confirmed that fact and then my client closed. I was back on within 15 minutes and paid in full as his post confirms but for those ~15 minutes he had good reason to be concerned. All is well though and I've never had a complaint against me that wasn't resolved within the day. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.03.30 20:29:00 - [53] Originally by: Kwint Sommer Thanks to a very badly timed computer crash (that video card has been RMA'ed) I received the shares, confirmed that fact and then my client closed. I was back on within 15 minutes and paid in full as his post confirms but for those ~15 minutes he had good reason to be concerned. All is well though and I've never had a complaint against me that wasn't resolved within the day. Wha? Btw, why dont you check your eve window from time to time. ---------------------------------------------- Why do it the hard way when you can do it the AMARR way.
Kwint Sommer	Posted - 2008.03.30 20:43:00 - [54] IceWarriors was responding to this stuff: Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Originally by: Kwint Sommer Originally by: Imperius Blackheart I have 950 of these bonds, i'm looking to sell them for 910 million. A quick 40 mil for whoever buys them. I'll take them. I'm on now and will be on later tonight. It appears (for the moment at least) that Kwint is a thief, who has taken the shares but not sent the money for them. Its only 860 mil he owes me, not the end of the world, but should be a word of warning for people who do future business with him. Of course if he does set this right then i'll retract the statement. At the moment it appears he took the bonds, confirmed to me that the recept and then went offline. Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Originally by: Kwint Sommer My system died at the most inopportune moment....logging in and sending ISK now. It would appear that I was mistaken, and indeed Kwint is a man of his word. A pleasure to do business with you sir. And my god your PC chose a bad time to crash :P As far as answering convoes go, you know I could never ignore you Amarr Citizen. Heck, I added you to my address book. But IÆve got EVE open on my desktop but IÆm typing this from my tablet. IÆm in the library ôdoing research.ö I should be at my keyboard after dinner tonight. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
Amarr Citizen 155	Posted - 2008.03.30 20:53:00 - [55] Ahh I see. You should really check your destop a lot soner than after dinner though. Seriously, you should. ---------------------------------------------- Why do it the hard way when you can do it the AMARR way.
Segge Bolled	Posted - 2008.03.31 03:18:00 - [56] Originally by: Kwint Sommer I'm giving it 90 days from the last dividend payout before I completely write it off in my books but it's really not looking good. Even now I'm starting to regret buying it at 400k. I'll buy 250 for 200k each. The following statements probably represent the opinions of an individual and not necessarily those of their corporation or alliance - just in case you forgot to c/p the signature.
Kwint Sommer Lothian Quay Industries	Posted - 2008.03.31 03:54:00 - [57] Originally by: Segge Bolled Originally by: Kwint Sommer I'm giving it 90 days from the last dividend payout before I completely write it off in my books but it's really not looking good. Even now I'm starting to regret buying it at 400k. I'll buy 250 for 200k each. I appreciate the offer but even I'll take the gamble and purchase more at 200k. I'm definitely done buying at 400k though. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
Segge Bolled Dirty Sexy Pilots	Posted - 2008.03.31 04:39:00 - [58] Well it was worth a shot! (I counter-offer 200,000.01, as per the Jita tradition ) The following statements probably represent the opinions of an individual and not necessarily those of their corporation or alliance - just in case you forgot to c/p the signature.
Imodesky Kafelnikov CyberDyne Industries Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.04.01 16:56:00 - [59]
Shadarle LI0NS Industries	Posted - 2008.04.01 19:12:00 - [60] All of my shares of FRPB/LMTA were just bought back. It appears Ionia has finally returned, or at least someone who claimed to be Ionia's alt. I was sent all the money first, I then send the shares to Ionia as directed. Glad I didn't sell them off under-valued. Apparently Ionia was hit by a bus, ironic as that may be, as she was driving home one day but her backup plan on repaying investors fell through. But I'll repeat, I got every penny back... apparently Ionia will be back on shortly to repay others who wish to cash out. It seems every other IPO should re-look at their "hit by bus" scenario and make sure it is in working order... another good piece of advice would be to look both ways for buses when driving before crossing intersections!
Roguehalo RH Ship Brokers	Posted - 2008.04.01 19:18:00 - [61] so who was the 'someone' ? Or was the 'someone' just buying back YOUR shares and everybody else has to go whistle? Not that it directly concerns me ofc I'm just an interested observer of these forums
Kwint Sommer	Posted - 2008.04.01 19:26:00 - [62] Originally by: Shadarle All of my shares of FRPB/LMTA were just bought back. It appears Ionia has finally returned, or at least someone who claimed to be Ionia's alt. I was sent all the money first, I then send the shares to Ionia as directed. Glad I didn't sell them off under-valued. Apparently Ionia was hit by a bus, ironic as that may be, as she was driving home one day but her backup plan on repaying investors fell through. But I'll repeat, I got every penny back... apparently Ionia will be back on shortly to repay others who wish to cash out. It seems every other IPO should re-look at their "hit by bus" scenario and make sure it is in working order... another good piece of advice would be to look both ways for buses when driving before crossing intersections! Quoted for the record. On an unrelated note, I would like to make one final offer to purchase FRPB shares at 400k each. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
EBANK Ricdic	Posted - 2008.04.02 00:41:00 - [63] Shadarle is that still an April Fools joke? http://www.eve-bank.net Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.[/url]
LRN Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.04.02 04:27:00 - [64] Edited by: LRN on 02/04/2008 04:33:52 Originally by: Shadarle Apparently Ionia was hit by a bus, ironic as that may be, as she was driving home one day but her backup plan on repaying investors fell through. But I'll repeat, I got every penny back... apparently Ionia will be back on shortly to repay others who wish to cash out. Yes, apparently. Because no one knows what hit her, some say it was an UFO nonetheless. APPARENTLY little green men decided that a perpetual bond was too much for their stomach to take. Although severely injured, Ionia's last words before slipping into a coma were: "trust and respect... (gushing for air) must refund Shadarle... before anyone else". I realize that this is no longer falls in the April first time interval, I beg your forgiveness, I couldn't help it.
LRN Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.04.02 08:18:00 - [65] Originally by: Kwint Sommer On an unrelated note, I would like to make one final offer to purchase FRPB shares at 400k each. I've perused the thread and I would advise anyone that still has shares to sell them to Kwint.
Robacz Essence Trade Essence Enterprises	Posted - 2008.04.02 08:25:00 - [66] Do you people realize that IF (I hope not) something really happend, this is not funny at all?
LRN	Posted - 2008.04.02 08:27:00 - [67] Edited by: LRN on 02/04/2008 08:27:15 Originally by: Robacz Do you people realize that IF (I hope not) something really happend, this is not funny at all? You mean the bus scenario or the UFO one?
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans Zzz	Posted - 2008.04.02 10:51:00 - [68] If you honestly think a 2.5b scam hurts me you are hilarious. I always advised the part that annoyed me the most was the social engineering.
LRN Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.04.02 17:03:00 - [69] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic If you honestly think a 2.5b scam hurts me you are hilarious. I always advised the part that annoyed me the most was the social engineering. Precisely. hahah
Thintalle Aliastra	Posted - 2008.06.15 17:56:00 - [70] I hate to revive this topic, but does anyone know if Ionia has been seen since (or one of her omnious alts)? I'm cleaning up my share-portfolio after a longer absense and I don't know for sure what to do with the FRPB shares, considering someone mentioned they had them bought back.
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.06.15 18:33:00 - [71] I think FRPB is done and dusted.
Thintalle Aliastra	Posted - 2008.06.15 18:55:00 - [72] Thanks for the confirmation (:
Kwint Sommer Lothian Quay Industries	Posted - 2008.06.16 00:04:00 - [73] I will still purchase shares at 100k each. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.06.16 07:55:00 - [74] Originally by: Kwint Sommer I will still purchase shares at 100k each. Pfft, I got more than that for my RHCRP shares Zzz research towers Direrie NEW: Liekuri 20:1 low-end compression

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