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Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:28:00 - [61] Originally by: jbob2000 The superblob does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. The superblob goes killing. The superblob does not have a chin. Beneath its beard lies yet another fist. I've been on the receiving end of the superblob and to be honest without the titans it would be fine... as it is now resistance is futile! Theres plenty of NPC stations out there... so like Evolution says: Those who cannot adapt get stepped on by devs Post with your main if you wanna moan at least Originally by: Dr Cupid Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
Khatred Fluffy Mungoose Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:39:00 - [62] Maybe if some of the coalition member will have the balls to take their supercapitals into battle, you could have your own superblob. But I guess piracy in Wyverns is better
Tobruk Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:46:00 - [63] Originally by: Darc Kaahar Originally by: Ace Frehley Who cares.... Stop worreing, relax just play He's right you know :) agreed, the only post in here with any sense ---------------------------------------------- [gold]Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed level of truth-HornFrog (mods@ccpga
Xeriuz Caldari The Puppet Masters.	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:55:00 - [64] Edited by: Xeriuz on 13/05/2007 01:54:22 STOP CRYING YOU BABYS!!!!!!!!!! and just get you fkn act together and PLAN a good attack at some systems in bob space(not theyrs allies and say you took a bob outpost) jebus..... ______________________________________________ X You Never Know What You Have Until You Lose It
Dracolich North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:56:00 - [65] Clearly the blunder of it all, was that the Coalition attacked MC instead of hiring them. _____________________________________
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:13:00 - [66] Originally by: Xeriuz Edited by: Xeriuz on 13/05/2007 01:54:22 STOP CRYING YOU BABYS!!!!!!!!!! and just get you fkn act together and PLAN a good attack at some systems in bob space(not theyrs allies and say you took a bob outpost) jebus..... Yeah kk mate Titan was created to prevent blobbing...so now people blob in capitals because they can survive DD. Capitals don't go anywhere without support, and fighter drones cause more lag than anything...so there are still huge blobs with unplayable lag. 1000 fighter drones in space...FPS = run and hide To fight 150 capitals plus 200 support...you, err, need 150 capitals and 200 support guess what...the servers cant handle 700ppl in local...never mind 700 people actually trying to activate modules and god forbid try to fire a gun. Oh and don't forget the Doomsday lag. So when you, Xeriuz, have finished re writing the EVE game engine, maybe we can see fights that are won because of firepower..and not flawed servers Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:21:00 - [67] I think today's Dev blog (that included Titan and Motherships) indicates that CCP understands that their idea of exchanging Capitals and Super Capitals over Battleships and support fleets as the primary 0.0 fighting ships....isn't going to buy them the time they thought to work up more realistic anti-blob ideas. I think even CCP is somewhat taken aback at the rate at which capitals and super capitals are entering the game. Expect a knee jerk response before the summer is out. The line of sight on fighters seemed interesting...
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:23:00 - [68] Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! http://www.killboard.net/sigs/Buxaroo/ht_08/sig.gif "No matter where you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
Exortius Amarrus The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:25:00 - [69] Originally by: sakana One does not simply kill a superblob One does not simply cyno into mordor... ------------------------
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:28:00 - [70] Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! Buxaroo..shame on you for thinking Moonlight wins anything but smack troll of the year.. Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:35:00 - [71] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! Buxaroo..shame on you for thinking Moonlight wins anything but smack troll of the year.. Well I wasn't exactly legitimizing her, just the comment "No matter where you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:42:00 - [72] Originally by: Buxaroo Well I wasn't exactly legitimizing her, just the comment Well, if we hadn't put all those capitals in action in F-T, you wouldn't have been able to kill them So once again...Moonlight talks out of HIS sphincter Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:27:00 - [73] Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 13/05/2007 03:25:38 I believe this thread is quite relevant to this discussion, please note the date: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=13519
nickycakes Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:42:00 - [74] A thousand nations of the BoB empire descend upon you. Our Powerblob will blot out the sun!
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:43:00 - [75] Originally by: Iasius Yeah lets see lots of capital on capital ship action its the future. The Moros would make a great support ship . Fit nanos on them too, oh damn that got nerfed. I was in the system when MC lost the cap yard but i fitted a cloak to a geddon as i knew it would be a lag fast. I painted 4 warhammer 40k figures, very productive op. I guess if BOB put huge capitals on the table its very hard to counter. But selective precise use of capitals by the coalition would yield results. But it seems the use of capitals is a confidence game. If one side gets theirs spanked the rest get used for car shows. Battle of Jutland syndrome. If either side looses it's capital fleet they have no chance of rebuilding while their empire still exists. As a result they are unwilling to risk their fleet in a chancy situation. Ask Seleene about the IAC/ISS war if you want a better explanation of this point.
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:47:00 - [76] Originally by: Darc Kaahar Originally by: Ace Frehley Who cares.... Stop worreing, relax just play He's right you know :) /me agrees ------------------------------------------------------------------
Raketefrau Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:47:00 - [77] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 13/05/2007 03:25:38 I believe this thread is quite relevant to this discussion, please note the date: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=13519 Well, the big difference here is that battleships can be blown up, and are daily. Titans have only been even dented when they weren't being piloted. I realize that capships and supercapships are needed to keep your long-term players in the game, but until a Titan is actually taken out in combat, it will remain a target of whining. And unless it can actually be blown up in combat, it deserves the whining. Until the servers can handle the blobs, there will be whining. And it will be deserved whining.
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:56:00 - [78] Originally by: nickycakes A thousand nations of the BoB empire descend upon you. Our Powerblob will blot out the sun! --> Coalition member: "Then we shall fight in Fade!" "No matter where you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
Lunas Feelgood Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:58:00 - [79] Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: nickycakes A thousand nations of the BoB empire descend upon you. Our Powerblob will blot out the sun! --> Coalition member: "Then we shall fight in Fade!" Actually ill just smack you on the forum instead Originally by: Shamis Orzoz When the going gets tough...the tough join Bob. Originally by: Shin Ra Didn't u get the memo? Bending over is the new honorable thing to do!
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:01:00 - [80] Originally by: Raketefrau Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 13/05/2007 03:25:38 I believe this thread is quite relevant to this discussion, please note the date: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=13519 Well, the big difference here is that battleships can be blown up, and are daily. Titans have only been even dented when they weren't being piloted. I realize that capships and supercapships are needed to keep your long-term players in the game, but until a Titan is actually taken out in combat, it will remain a target of whining. And unless it can actually be blown up in combat, it deserves the whining. Until the servers can handle the blobs, there will be whining. And it will be deserved whining. Weren't battleships nerfed though? ----
Kvarium Ki legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:03:00 - [81] The coalition wouldn't need to blob if they had the coordination to attack in 20 different areas at once. They have the man power. The alliance might have the capital ships to counter that many simultaneous attacks but I think they would be hard press to come up with enough support for these capitals. KK.
Johnny Santos Beginning of the End	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:06:00 - [82] Abandon all hope ye who enter - Baun ur still a nub I need a cap fleet to kill a cap fleet to kill a cap fleet to kill a pos to kill a cap fleet to kill a pos. Caps dont win the game, POSs dont win the game. They win if you let them win. They win if you fight their way. Yes my char is new, yes you probably think i know squat about the game. On both accounts your wrong on one :o FA 4EVA
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:11:00 - [83] Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! Well it's nice of you to admit that to control 0.0 space you need a minimum of $52,000+ worth of internet spaceships (200 * 2.2b average for dread = 440bn at $120/Bn isk if you where to buy them with GTC's and that's just for the Hulls!!!) Double that if you figure that the ships are faction fitted. Am I the only person to think that something is wrong here? That's just way to much value running around a video game.
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:33:00 - [84] Originally by: Johnny Santos Abandon all hope ye who enter - Baun ur still a nub tsk tsk IA, CAOD is for big boys only no 5m SP alts :P The Enemy's Gate is Down

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Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:40:00 - [86] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! Buxaroo..shame on you for thinking Moonlight wins anything but smack troll of the year.. How was my comment smack in any way? It was an observation and a very valid one. But since you have no valid argument, you resort to name calling? I think everyone here can see who wins smack troll awards around here. Just look in the mirror, Mr. Hypocrite.
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:56:00 - [87] Edited by: Baun on 13/05/2007 04:54:11 woops. The Enemy's Gate is Down
UGWidowmaker Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 06:06:00 - [88] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=519530 nerf of cap shipss--- if we suck at pvp then why come fight us all the time ???
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.05.13 06:21:00 - [89] Originally by: Dracolich Clearly the blunder of it all, was that the Coalition attacked MC instead of hiring them. They did attempt to hire MC, MC was not interested in working against BoB. They set terms they knew would not be acceptable for employment such that noone could afford to pay it, and that is why they were not hired by anyone. The problem of the SuperBlob is two fold really: 1. The game engine cannot handle the dreamed of massive fleet battles. This has been shown over and over since almost the dawn of warfare in EVE. For a long time CCP ignored this and hoped for the best. However after the battle of LV1V they decided to take others steps. As far as we know they did not officially tell the player base of their decision, primarily because they were to preoccupied with K's revelations to properly address the situation. This led them to make a game change, which though it had been mentioned many months beforehand had never been enforced. It was the changing of the policy of enforcement that really changed the tune of the war. The only real advantage the coalition had over BoB's forces was numbers. CCP removed that advantage by capping systems to 700 pilots at a time. This wracked havoc at the battle of the BoB Shipyards. It also cast more doubt on CCPs ability to act impartially. The coalition capital losses at the BoB Shipyards was more due to the CCP enforcement change than anything BoB itself did. Since that time we've not seen a major Coalition force assemble because a some lost heart. They had worked hard, coordinated well and assembled a great fleet and it was all nullified by CCPs decision. Had CCP given warning of the change in enforcement as they should have, the battle at the BoB shipyards probably would have taken a different tone. But not giving that warning has damaged the spirit. 2. Titans. BoB currently has the most titans that are publicly known. They can remote detonate killing billions in a shot for around 20 million in cost per shot. That's not a real good risk vs reward ratio. Since there is no risk to the Titan since it is not present at the battle. The only really effective counter strategy was to use blob tactics where you brought as many as you could and hoped that you could have enough survive the titan blasts to achieve your goal. With the limit imposed in point one, that strategy is no longer effective. Titans need to be nerfed considerably. The first nerfing needs to be the removal of remote detonation. The next point that needs changing is that they need to decrease the area of effect or decrease the damage dealt. Alternately to decreasing one of these two you could require a siege mode where the Titan cannot move prior to the firing of the DD and after firing it for a set amount of time. It is these two factors that have led to the superblob more than anything else in the game. Unless they are addressed and lets face it on point one is something that cannot be easily fixed with current technology then the superblob will continue. Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
Kurfi' Legimo PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2007.05.13 06:34:00 - [90] Oh noes run for the hills!!! The blob is comming! -Kurfi stop nerfing my sig devs =p

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