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Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.12 22:52:00 - [1] About 150 Caps and various super caps depending on the day. So far every single entity that has the superblob has taken one look at it, decided that there was no way in hell they could fight it, and gone away. Lets be honest the only thing keeping the superblob from sweaping all in it's way is the logistics time it take to take another system. Where are the rest of the coallition, desparately trying to build more (super)caps if they have any sense. Unless somebody can kill the superblob this will all be over in two or three months with BoB controlling most of conquorable 0.0. At that point the only thing that can threaten the BoB age is CCP changing game mechanics so that supercaps can be built at NPC stations. God some day's I hate this game.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.12 22:55:00 - [2] One does not simply kill a superblob ------------
jbob2000 Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.12 22:56:00 - [3] The superblob counted to infinity... twice ________________________________ KIA Recruitment
Kyguard Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.05.12 22:57:00 - [4] That's no moon.. - Latest Video
Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.12 22:58:00 - [5] Originally by: sakana One does not simply kill a superblob no you throw cheese at it and scream "OVER HERE YOU BIG FAT UGLY B(l)OB!" then turn and warp out in your t2 shuttle Your signature <----- My awsome Sig Real men PVP on the Forums.
Minnu Minmatar SFTW Manufacturing INC.	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:02:00 - [6] Edited by: Minnu on 12/05/2007 23:00:55 Originally by: Johana Walker About 150 Caps and various super caps depending on the day. So far every single entity that has the superblob has taken one look at it, decided that there was no way in hell they could fight it, and gone away. Lets be honest the only thing keeping the superblob from sweaping all in it's way is the logistics time it take to take another system. Where are the rest of the coallition, desparately trying to build more (super)caps if they have any sense. Unless somebody can kill the superblob this will all be over in two or three months with BoB controlling most of conquorable 0.0. At that point the only thing that can threaten the BoB age is CCP changing game mechanics so that supercaps can be built at NPC stations. God some day's I hate this game. Boehoehoe wtf is your point. The omg-rape-train was intented to be so uber? Now them goons start to lose grib on reality, fact they are noobs. They cant achieve **** without the red alliance in their backs. When coalition was rising we didnt hear you whine about blops, now when they are falling you start boehoehoe nerf nerf nerf. Grow up dude Not an bob alt I build stuff :)
HC MasiEEE Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:04:00 - [7] ________________________ HC MasiEEE - DICE
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:08:00 - [8] Originally by: sakana One does not simply kill a superblob ROFL! Thanks for that. Blog at: The Jammy Blog
OzaLoni Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:09:00 - [9] Originally by: sakana One does not simply kill a superblob Sorry, there is but one version of this quote. Quote: One does not simply walk into fountain! Please be sure to use the correct version of this quote in future. As for the blob, there are always ways and means to dealing with blobs. The question is are you willing to think outside the box and try different theories ?
jbob2000 Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:09:00 - [10] The superblob does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. The superblob goes killing. ________________________________ KIA Recruitment
Ferocious FeAr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:09:00 - [11] I'm a lover, not a fighter. Don't hate me, learn to love me
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:11:00 - [12] WAAAAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAH Quit. ---- Everything I say represents my corporation and their views.
Takahashi Arran coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:11:00 - [13] this is the fundamental difference between the coalition and the alliance. Logistics. in a straight up fight with everyone on the same vent/TS, in the same lag free system thee coalition would wipe the floor with the alliance every time. But until that happens i expect them to continue to loose space
Arenis Xemdal Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:13:00 - [14] Your covert implications that we blob with overwhelming force are absurd. First point: Coalition brought 200 capitals into Delve for the F-TE1T theatre, 50 more than we had. Second point: We only pulled those kinda numbers once. Speaking from the best of my knowledge, you should be replacing FCs, not building more ships. We got jumped once and took a fairly good hit when 9 BoB dreadnaughts were downed, but returned the favour to the Coalition of Family Values at least ten times. And lastly, the end was supposed to be nigh 2-3 months after EC-P8R. Are you saying we have to wait another 2-3 months until EVE is ours? :( PS: The end is nigh.
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:19:00 - [15] Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use.
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Narrative Freshfood	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:20:00 - [16] Originally by: sakana One does not simply kill a superblob Time to call Chuck Norris. --------------------------- Yes alt, main got silenced.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:22:00 - [17] Originally by: Takahashi Arran this is the fundamental difference between the coalition and the alliance. Logistics. in a straight up fight with everyone on the same vent/TS, in the same lag free system thee coalition would wipe the floor with the alliance every time. But until that happens i expect them to continue to loose space I'm not to sure what you mean with this comment? Do you mean even numbers or do you mean all alliance vs all coalition in no lag? As for you sayingthe coalition would win everytime, well, we're all entitled to our own opinion but i would disagree on that one. Would probably make for some awesome battles BoB vs the coalition of family value's
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Minnu Edited by: Minnu on 12/05/2007 23:00:55 Originally by: Johana Walker About 150 Caps and various super caps depending on the day. So far every single entity that has the superblob has taken one look at it, decided that there was no way in hell they could fight it, and gone away. Lets be honest the only thing keeping the superblob from sweaping all in it's way is the logistics time it take to take another system. Where are the rest of the coallition, desparately trying to build more (super)caps if they have any sense. Unless somebody can kill the superblob this will all be over in two or three months with BoB controlling most of conquorable 0.0. At that point the only thing that can threaten the BoB age is CCP changing game mechanics so that supercaps can be built at NPC stations. God some day's I hate this game. Boehoehoe wtf is your point. The omg-rape-train was intented to be so uber? Now them goons start to lose grib on reality, fact they are noobs. They cant achieve **** without the red alliance in their backs. When coalition was rising we didnt hear you whine about blops, now when they are falling you start boehoehoe nerf nerf nerf. Grow up dude Not an bob alt So your point is that if you can't field a superblob you should not hold space in 0.0? What do I want? I want to be the person who coined term superblob. I want to see every post talking about this war talking about the superblob as a technical term. When you realize why I want that you'll know what I'm trying to accomplish.
Ladsmi	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:24:00 - [19] the way i see it the super blobs of cap ship on bothe sides take away something from the game. it kinda remember me of an old game called planetarion that after a while was ruled by a few big allaince and that made the game borring after a while. the same thing are happening to this game.
gaz widdow Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:25:00 - [20] Well the blob was goon & coalition to start. the problem with goons was they had no cap fleet. But that wasent a problem I imagine conversation in the goons leadership going something like this: 1:Lets go kill BOB 2:But we dont have a cap fleet 3:Thats ok we can luse theres,
Trinity Faetal 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:25:00 - [21] the legion of men, elfs and hobitses failed and is now being run over by teh war machina of sauron -- What goes around, goes around, goes around, Comes all the way back around.
Olav Minmatar KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:26:00 - [22] the way i see it the super blobs of cap ship on bothe sides take away something from the game. it kinda remember me of an old game called planetarion that after a while was ruled by a few big allaince and that made the game borring after a while. the same thing are happening to this game. sorry posted with teh wronge character WHO have cake ?????????????????????????????
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:30:00 - [23] Originally by: OzaLoni Originally by: sakana One does not simply kill a superblob Sorry, there is but one version of this quote. Quote: One does not simply walk into fountain! Please be sure to use the correct version of this quote in future. As for the blob, there are always ways and means to dealing with blobs. The question is are you willing to think outside the box and try different theories ? Sigh and maybe if you keep saying that you can keep the Dev's from nerfing you. Seriously the BoB superblob has to be the best spidertank ever seen in the game. You're side had carriers stand up for how long against the focused fire of an entire dread fleet? Seriously if one of your ships has even one HP remaining before the rep cycle hits it's going to be back up to full HP how fast. Give me a break the only thing that's going to be stop your blob is the removal of all cap sized reppers (and replacement with cap extenders/plates).
scabbsssjr Gallente M'8'S	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:31:00 - [24] Killing superblobs is easy as well pie. Just call 1800-C-H-U-CK and all blobs will be killed within a timely manner, --------------------------- Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
NaughtyLemming	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:35:00 - [25] Originally by: Vasili Z WAAAAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAH Quit. Haha, without MC/BoB you'd still be sitting in Jita
Moros M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:35:00 - [26] dude can you stop complaining and play the freakin game damn
Ivo D Minmatar 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:36:00 - [27] oh lord... now it's not blob, it is superblob nerf gheyllente.
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Narrative Freshfood	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:38:00 - [28] Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 12/05/2007 23:37:32 Imho capital blobs are not the only problem. Without capital fleets masses of unorganized newbies were able to overrun everything and always create big lag hell. I would not like to pvp under such circumstances, because such battles lack class. It's just about outblobbing. --------------------------- Yes alt, main got silenced.
Hast Refused.	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:43:00 - [29] My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing. Unless you get your frickin act together nothing is gonna change. So get your act together... Noone is stopping you from building capital ships of your own. If you are too incompetent to get funding or the manpower together its hardly BoB's fault. And if you are worth your salts they wont even find out where you are building it either. So in the end suck it up or just quit. P.S. can I have your stuff? Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Your covert implications that we blob with overwhelming force are absurd. First point: Coalition brought 200 capitals into Delve for the F-TE1T theatre, 50 more than we had. Second point: We only pulled those kinda numbers once. Speaking from the best of my knowledge, you should be replacing FCs, not building more ships. We got jumped once and took a fairly good hit when 9 BoB dreadnaughts were downed, but returned the favour to the Coalition of Family Values at least ten times. And lastly, the end was supposed to be nigh 2-3 months after EC-P8R. Are you saying we have to wait another 2-3 months until EVE is ours? :( PS: The end is nigh. Actually the current game mechanics are idiotic. I'm begging to feel like I'm playing a bad game of Space 1889 (not nocking that RPG BTW). Currently there is no asymetical threat to cap ships. Instead we are replaying the Russo-Japanesse War, all the observe reports say "big guns nothing else matters." What we need is a torpedo (and I don't mean the type that are in the game), something with which a smaller ship can be a credible threat to a cap ship with. Until then the numbers mean that the most cap firepower wins. And please stop insulting coallition FC's. Your cap ships have how much in high end faction mods. You aren't out manuvering the coallition you are PWNing them the same way a HAC PWNs say an incursus. The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...).
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:50:00 - [31] How are you fine people doing today? - Vid - 'P-2 Defense'
Hast Refused.	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Johana Walker Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Your covert implications that we blob with overwhelming force are absurd. First point: Coalition brought 200 capitals into Delve for the F-TE1T theatre, 50 more than we had. Second point: We only pulled those kinda numbers once. Speaking from the best of my knowledge, you should be replacing FCs, not building more ships. We got jumped once and took a fairly good hit when 9 BoB dreadnaughts were downed, but returned the favour to the Coalition of Family Values at least ten times. And lastly, the end was supposed to be nigh 2-3 months after EC-P8R. Are you saying we have to wait another 2-3 months until EVE is ours? :( PS: The end is nigh. Actually the current game mechanics are idiotic. I'm begging to feel like I'm playing a bad game of Space 1889 (not nocking that RPG BTW). Currently there is no asymetical threat to cap ships. Instead we are replaying the Russo-Japanesse War, all the observe reports say "big guns nothing else matters." What we need is a torpedo (and I don't mean the type that are in the game), something with which a smaller ship can be a credible threat to a cap ship with. Until then the numbers mean that the most cap firepower wins. And please stop insulting coallition FC's. Your cap ships have how much in high end faction mods. You aren't out manuvering the coallition you are PWNing them the same way a HAC PWNs say an incursus. The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...). so what your basicly saying is that you think its unfair that the people with the most assets and skill, both in building and employing stuff wins? Because thats really what you are saying right now. You think its unfair that your t1 frigate blobs cant break a pos siege. And now you are also complaining over the fact that BoB fit nice mods to their ships? come on, give me a break, you are sounding redicilous. Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.12 23:55:00 - [33] Sooo.... Goonswarm and allies would be "M-M-M-MONSTER BLOB!"? Given it a rest Mr Alt. Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
Croesus Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Hast My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing. Unless you get your frickin act together nothing is gonna change. So get your act together... Noone is stopping you from building capital ships of your own. If you are too incompetent to get funding or the manpower together its hardly BoB's fault. And if you are worth your salts they wont even find out where you are building it either. So in the end suck it up or just quit. P.S. can I have your stuff? haha whining about whining and you dont stop there but then start to preach. funny guy.
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:04:00 - [35] Originally by: Johana Walker The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...). And whose fault is it that they have agreed to this? Surely, you are not blaming BoB or CCP for short-sighted agreements between alliances in the Coalition?
Hast Refused.	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:05:00 - [36] Originally by: Croesus Originally by: Hast My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing. Unless you get your frickin act together nothing is gonna change. So get your act together... Noone is stopping you from building capital ships of your own. If you are too incompetent to get funding or the manpower together its hardly BoB's fault. And if you are worth your salts they wont even find out where you are building it either. So in the end suck it up or just quit. P.S. can I have your stuff? haha whining about whining and you dont stop there but then start to preach. funny guy. how was my post a whine exactly? and if that was a whine, then your post was a whine too... And that makes this post a whine aswell... AAAAAAAAAAAAAHH Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:07:00 - [37] Obviously a lie because titans prevent blobing. Click above for my killboard stats.
Croesus Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Croesus Originally by: Hast My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing. Unless you get your frickin act together nothing is gonna change. So get your act together... Noone is stopping you from building capital ships of your own. If you are too incompetent to get funding or the manpower together its hardly BoB's fault. And if you are worth your salts they wont even find out where you are building it either. So in the end suck it up or just quit. P.S. can I have your stuff? haha whining about whining and you dont stop there but then start to preach. funny guy. how was my post a whine exactly? and if that was a whine, then your post was a whine too... And that makes this post a whine aswell... AAAAAAAAAAAAAHH yes its true, its impossible to post on caod without looking like a ******.
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:12:00 - [39] Edited by: Baun on 13/05/2007 00:10:11 Lasciate ogne speranza voi ch'intrate. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:21:00 - [40] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Johana Walker Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Your covert implications that we blob with overwhelming force are absurd. First point: Coalition brought 200 capitals into Delve for the F-TE1T theatre, 50 more than we had. Second point: We only pulled those kinda numbers once. Speaking from the best of my knowledge, you should be replacing FCs, not building more ships. We got jumped once and took a fairly good hit when 9 BoB dreadnaughts were downed, but returned the favour to the Coalition of Family Values at least ten times. And lastly, the end was supposed to be nigh 2-3 months after EC-P8R. Are you saying we have to wait another 2-3 months until EVE is ours? :( PS: The end is nigh. Actually the current game mechanics are idiotic. I'm begging to feel like I'm playing a bad game of Space 1889 (not nocking that RPG BTW). Currently there is no asymetical threat to cap ships. Instead we are replaying the Russo-Japanesse War, all the observe reports say "big guns nothing else matters." What we need is a torpedo (and I don't mean the type that are in the game), something with which a smaller ship can be a credible threat to a cap ship with. Until then the numbers mean that the most cap firepower wins. And please stop insulting coallition FC's. Your cap ships have how much in high end faction mods. You aren't out manuvering the coallition you are PWNing them the same way a HAC PWNs say an incursus. The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...). so what your basicly saying is that you think its unfair that the people with the most assets and skill, both in building and employing stuff wins? Because thats really what you are saying right now. You think its unfair that your t1 frigate blobs cant break a pos siege. And now you are also complaining over the fact that BoB fit nice mods to their ships? come on, give me a break, you are sounding redicilous. Well lets see lets replace "skill points" with number of man hours to operate and On December 7th 1941 a "blob" or relatively "low SP pilots" in "small ships" (ok airplane actually) took out the main US "dreadnaught fleet" anchored at Pearl Harbor. On June 4th 1942 the Americans returned the favor at a place called Midway. Like I said biggest and best wins is classic battleship combat and you get, at best, the battle of Jutland. If you want to have dynamic combat you need a asyemtric threat to the cap ships. We don't have that now. And um last time I check the Pacific war had a bit more tactics than simple blobage, CCP could stand to take some notes.
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:25:00 - [41] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Johana Walker The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...). And whose fault is it that they have agreed to this? Surely, you are not blaming BoB or CCP for short-sighted agreements between alliances in the Coalition? So you can harvest a cap ships worth of mods from your complexes how quickly? You should go into politics, I said the coallition can't gather top end mods for a huge dread fleet in a reasonable timeframe, and you turn around with this? Just what kind of spawn rate do you have down in BoB space !?!?!
Cassius Hawkeye Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:25:00 - [42] Edited by: Cassius Hawkeye on 13/05/2007 00:25:11 plz delete dbl post
Cassius Hawkeye Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:26:00 - [43] Edited by: Cassius Hawkeye on 13/05/2007 00:24:42 Originally by: Victor Vision The coalition put the POS containing the RKK shipyards into reinforced. Coalition Intelligence suggested a fetus-Titan as being in production in said shipyards. For the attack the Coalition assembled a vast fleet numbering over 1000 pilots. Part of this fleet were roughly 200 capital ships. This was quoted froom this thread on the 30th March. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=499356 About 6 weeks ago. Whether it's 100% true, who knows. But it seemed fairly accurate. So the coalition is more than capable of fighting toe to toe with their own super-blob - right? No smack, no flame, my opinion, not my corps or alliances.
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:31:00 - [44] If there were 20 different class of capital ships, I guess much fewer people would be whining about titans, but there is not. Capital fleet battle are not only extremely rare but also very little tactic is involved : all dreads are fitted more or less the same way, dreads can't move and can't do anything but activate guns. If Eve alliance warfare is to remain capital ship pilots only, then give us a few hundreds more different capital ships, so we can actually have battle that don't suck and are not ONLY about numbers.
Attak Trioptimum FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:32:00 - [45] I don't think there's anyone out there that can deny how grate a cap ship blob is at wiping out your resistance. Yes, they are grate indeed. But this is just a little grater.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:34:00 - [46] Originally by: Attak I don't think there's anyone out there that can deny how grate a cap ship blob is at wiping out your resistance. Yes, they are grate indeed. But this is just a little grater. k, seriously, give it a rest with that joke. Was funny the first time, yeah, but now it's time to find new material. FLAMING When you can't think of logical arguments and are too dumb to STFU
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:35:00 - [47] Originally by: Kyguard That's no moon.. hehe, i lol'd ------------------------------------------------------------------
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:37:00 - [48] Originally by: Johana Walker I said the coallition can't gather top end mods for a huge dread fleet in a reasonable timeframe, and you turn around with this? Just what kind of spawn rate do you have down in BoB space !?!?! No, you said "They can't". You did not qualify it with any comments about time-frame. You stated that the reason they can not is because they gave all their plexes away to RA. They could have fought for their plexes, or ratted and mined like tons of other people to build their capital fleet, but they have choosen not to, then they decided to declare war on someone who had to fore-sight and tactical intelligence to do so, and now they are crying about it on the forums while embarassing themselves and their entire Coalition.
Jonathan Peterbilt Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:38:00 - [49] I thought you will kill them all with 3000 frigs and tech 1 cruisers ..... Isn't that how you killed V and LV ?
Iasius Warp Angels	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:42:00 - [50] Yeah lets see lots of capital on capital ship action its the future. The Moros would make a great support ship . Fit nanos on them too, oh damn that got nerfed. I was in the system when MC lost the cap yard but i fitted a cloak to a geddon as i knew it would be a lag fast. I painted 4 warhammer 40k figures, very productive op. I guess if BOB put huge capitals on the table its very hard to counter. But selective precise use of capitals by the coalition would yield results. But it seems the use of capitals is a confidence game. If one side gets theirs spanked the rest get used for car shows. ................................................ I post with my main, so should you. Alt's are hecklers
Xeliya Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:45:00 - [51] Edited by: Xeliya on 13/05/2007 00:43:42 Originally by: Johana Walker Well lets see lets replace "skill points" with number of man hours to operate and On December 7th 1941 a "blob" or relatively "low SP pilots" in "small ships" (ok airplane actually) took out the main US "dreadnaught fleet" anchored at Pearl Harbor. On June 4th 1942 the Americans returned the favor at a place called Midway. Using WWII in comparison is to Eve is bad m'kay. Now if you want to use that comparison, the Coalition killed a LV Titan Fetus, MC Mom Fetus and a BoB Captial Ship Yard. All they did was wake up a sleeping giant like the Japanese did.
laotse Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:51:00 - [52] wine wine wine hmm must de in wine part \o/ lets get drunk http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Shinigami Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:02:00 - [53] Edited by: Shinigami on 13/05/2007 01:00:11 Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Perhaps the coalition could pool it's isk/ETCs and pay some of their cap pilots to leave the 10/10s. I would personally use the carrot on a stick method because they have proven themselves to be untrustworthy in the past. --- Help reduce lag in eve by supporting the Titans. Screenshots
dastommy79 Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 13/05/2007 00:43:42 Originally by: Johana Walker Well lets see lets replace "skill points" with number of man hours to operate and On December 7th 1941 a "blob" or relatively "low SP pilots" in "small ships" (ok airplane actually) took out the main US "dreadnaught fleet" anchored at Pearl Harbor. On June 4th 1942 the Americans returned the favor at a place called Midway. Using WWII in comparison is to Eve is bad m'kay. Now if you want to use that comparison, the Coalition killed a LV Titan Fetus, MC Mom Fetus and a BoB Captial Ship Yard. All they did was wake up a sleeping giant like the Japanese did. ah ffs can we stop comparing eve to real life wars please. And admiral yamamoto never said that qoute, that was made up for the movie Superblobs suck. If your forces have no chance of sucess then be surprised when people just wont engage it. So if bob is complaining of not gettin any fights, come out with something a bit more even. whatever http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg
Fedaykinn OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:07:00 - [55] Originally by: OzaLoni Originally by: sakana One does not simply kill a superblob Sorry, there is but one version of this quote. Quote: One does not simply walk into fountain! Please be sure to use the correct version of this quote in future. As for the blob, there are always ways and means to dealing with blobs. The question is are you willing to think outside the box and try different theories ? The question is can they be bothered anymore? Most people are starting to reliase how pointless it is fighting supercapital blobs, the dwindling number of active users prooves this (plus the whole dev misconduct). Eve is going into recess now instead of progress im afraid. Give it a few more years and itll be over when theres about 50 Titans active Yes I Typo, Does It Look Like I Care?
Ace Frehley Minmatar Fist of the Empire	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:10:00 - [56] Who cares.... Stop worreing, relax just play inappropriate content removed - Deckard
Corphus ShaK Scientific	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:12:00 - [57] Johana... can i have your stuff ?
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:15:00 - [58] Originally by: Ace Frehley Who cares.... Stop worreing, relax just play <3 Ace FLAMING When you can't think of logical arguments and are too dumb to STFU
Darc Kaahar Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:17:00 - [59] Originally by: Ace Frehley Who cares.... Stop worreing, relax just play He's right you know :)
Niah Kent Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:19:00 - [60] Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 13/05/2007 00:43:42 Originally by: Johana Walker Well lets see lets replace "skill points" with number of man hours to operate and On December 7th 1941 a "blob" or relatively "low SP pilots" in "small ships" (ok airplane actually) took out the main US "dreadnaught fleet" anchored at Pearl Harbor. On June 4th 1942 the Americans returned the favor at a place called Midway. Using WWII in comparison is to Eve is bad m'kay. Now if you want to use that comparison, the Coalition killed a LV Titan Fetus, MC Mom Fetus and a BoB Captial Ship Yard. All they did was wake up a sleeping giant like the Japanese did. ah ffs can we stop comparing eve to real life wars please. And admiral yamamoto never said that qoute, that was made up for the movie Superblobs suck. If your forces have no chance of sucess then be surprised when people just wont engage it. So if bob is complaining of not gettin any fights, come out with something a bit more even. whatever Where did you see him quote yamamoto??? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of bytes -Scyd ([email protected])
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:28:00 - [61] Originally by: jbob2000 The superblob does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. The superblob goes killing. The superblob does not have a chin. Beneath its beard lies yet another fist. I've been on the receiving end of the superblob and to be honest without the titans it would be fine... as it is now resistance is futile! Theres plenty of NPC stations out there... so like Evolution says: Those who cannot adapt get stepped on by devs Post with your main if you wanna moan at least Originally by: Dr Cupid Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
Khatred Fluffy Mungoose Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:39:00 - [62] Maybe if some of the coalition member will have the balls to take their supercapitals into battle, you could have your own superblob. But I guess piracy in Wyverns is better
Tobruk Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:46:00 - [63] Originally by: Darc Kaahar Originally by: Ace Frehley Who cares.... Stop worreing, relax just play He's right you know :) agreed, the only post in here with any sense ---------------------------------------------- [gold]Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed level of truth-HornFrog (mods@ccpga
Xeriuz Caldari The Puppet Masters.	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:55:00 - [64] Edited by: Xeriuz on 13/05/2007 01:54:22 STOP CRYING YOU BABYS!!!!!!!!!! and just get you fkn act together and PLAN a good attack at some systems in bob space(not theyrs allies and say you took a bob outpost) jebus..... ______________________________________________ X You Never Know What You Have Until You Lose It
Dracolich North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.05.13 01:56:00 - [65] Clearly the blunder of it all, was that the Coalition attacked MC instead of hiring them. _____________________________________
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:13:00 - [66] Originally by: Xeriuz Edited by: Xeriuz on 13/05/2007 01:54:22 STOP CRYING YOU BABYS!!!!!!!!!! and just get you fkn act together and PLAN a good attack at some systems in bob space(not theyrs allies and say you took a bob outpost) jebus..... Yeah kk mate Titan was created to prevent blobbing...so now people blob in capitals because they can survive DD. Capitals don't go anywhere without support, and fighter drones cause more lag than anything...so there are still huge blobs with unplayable lag. 1000 fighter drones in space...FPS = run and hide To fight 150 capitals plus 200 support...you, err, need 150 capitals and 200 support guess what...the servers cant handle 700ppl in local...never mind 700 people actually trying to activate modules and god forbid try to fire a gun. Oh and don't forget the Doomsday lag. So when you, Xeriuz, have finished re writing the EVE game engine, maybe we can see fights that are won because of firepower..and not flawed servers Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:21:00 - [67] I think today's Dev blog (that included Titan and Motherships) indicates that CCP understands that their idea of exchanging Capitals and Super Capitals over Battleships and support fleets as the primary 0.0 fighting ships....isn't going to buy them the time they thought to work up more realistic anti-blob ideas. I think even CCP is somewhat taken aback at the rate at which capitals and super capitals are entering the game. Expect a knee jerk response before the summer is out. The line of sight on fighters seemed interesting...
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:23:00 - [68] Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! http://www.killboard.net/sigs/Buxaroo/ht_08/sig.gif "No matter where you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
Exortius Amarrus The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:25:00 - [69] Originally by: sakana One does not simply kill a superblob One does not simply cyno into mordor... ------------------------
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:28:00 - [70] Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! Buxaroo..shame on you for thinking Moonlight wins anything but smack troll of the year.. Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:35:00 - [71] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! Buxaroo..shame on you for thinking Moonlight wins anything but smack troll of the year.. Well I wasn't exactly legitimizing her, just the comment "No matter where you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.13 02:42:00 - [72] Originally by: Buxaroo Well I wasn't exactly legitimizing her, just the comment Well, if we hadn't put all those capitals in action in F-T, you wouldn't have been able to kill them So once again...Moonlight talks out of HIS sphincter Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:27:00 - [73] Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 13/05/2007 03:25:38 I believe this thread is quite relevant to this discussion, please note the date: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=13519
nickycakes Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:42:00 - [74] A thousand nations of the BoB empire descend upon you. Our Powerblob will blot out the sun!
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:43:00 - [75] Originally by: Iasius Yeah lets see lots of capital on capital ship action its the future. The Moros would make a great support ship . Fit nanos on them too, oh damn that got nerfed. I was in the system when MC lost the cap yard but i fitted a cloak to a geddon as i knew it would be a lag fast. I painted 4 warhammer 40k figures, very productive op. I guess if BOB put huge capitals on the table its very hard to counter. But selective precise use of capitals by the coalition would yield results. But it seems the use of capitals is a confidence game. If one side gets theirs spanked the rest get used for car shows. Battle of Jutland syndrome. If either side looses it's capital fleet they have no chance of rebuilding while their empire still exists. As a result they are unwilling to risk their fleet in a chancy situation. Ask Seleene about the IAC/ISS war if you want a better explanation of this point.
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:47:00 - [76] Originally by: Darc Kaahar Originally by: Ace Frehley Who cares.... Stop worreing, relax just play He's right you know :) /me agrees ------------------------------------------------------------------
Raketefrau Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:47:00 - [77] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 13/05/2007 03:25:38 I believe this thread is quite relevant to this discussion, please note the date: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=13519 Well, the big difference here is that battleships can be blown up, and are daily. Titans have only been even dented when they weren't being piloted. I realize that capships and supercapships are needed to keep your long-term players in the game, but until a Titan is actually taken out in combat, it will remain a target of whining. And unless it can actually be blown up in combat, it deserves the whining. Until the servers can handle the blobs, there will be whining. And it will be deserved whining.
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:56:00 - [78] Originally by: nickycakes A thousand nations of the BoB empire descend upon you. Our Powerblob will blot out the sun! --> Coalition member: "Then we shall fight in Fade!" "No matter where you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
Lunas Feelgood Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 03:58:00 - [79] Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: nickycakes A thousand nations of the BoB empire descend upon you. Our Powerblob will blot out the sun! --> Coalition member: "Then we shall fight in Fade!" Actually ill just smack you on the forum instead Originally by: Shamis Orzoz When the going gets tough...the tough join Bob. Originally by: Shin Ra Didn't u get the memo? Bending over is the new honorable thing to do!
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:01:00 - [80] Originally by: Raketefrau Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 13/05/2007 03:25:38 I believe this thread is quite relevant to this discussion, please note the date: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=13519 Well, the big difference here is that battleships can be blown up, and are daily. Titans have only been even dented when they weren't being piloted. I realize that capships and supercapships are needed to keep your long-term players in the game, but until a Titan is actually taken out in combat, it will remain a target of whining. And unless it can actually be blown up in combat, it deserves the whining. Until the servers can handle the blobs, there will be whining. And it will be deserved whining. Weren't battleships nerfed though? ----
Kvarium Ki legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:03:00 - [81] The coalition wouldn't need to blob if they had the coordination to attack in 20 different areas at once. They have the man power. The alliance might have the capital ships to counter that many simultaneous attacks but I think they would be hard press to come up with enough support for these capitals. KK.
Johnny Santos Beginning of the End	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:06:00 - [82] Abandon all hope ye who enter - Baun ur still a nub I need a cap fleet to kill a cap fleet to kill a cap fleet to kill a pos to kill a cap fleet to kill a pos. Caps dont win the game, POSs dont win the game. They win if you let them win. They win if you fight their way. Yes my char is new, yes you probably think i know squat about the game. On both accounts your wrong on one :o FA 4EVA
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:11:00 - [83] Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! Well it's nice of you to admit that to control 0.0 space you need a minimum of $52,000+ worth of internet spaceships (200 * 2.2b average for dread = 440bn at $120/Bn isk if you where to buy them with GTC's and that's just for the Hulls!!!) Double that if you figure that the ships are faction fitted. Am I the only person to think that something is wrong here? That's just way to much value running around a video game.
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:33:00 - [84] Originally by: Johnny Santos Abandon all hope ye who enter - Baun ur still a nub tsk tsk IA, CAOD is for big boys only no 5m SP alts :P The Enemy's Gate is Down

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Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:40:00 - [86] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Moonlight Express Last I heard, coalition owned 200+ capitals and 3 titans themselves. ItÆs just that BoB actually puts theirs to use. Bingo, we have a winner! Buxaroo..shame on you for thinking Moonlight wins anything but smack troll of the year.. How was my comment smack in any way? It was an observation and a very valid one. But since you have no valid argument, you resort to name calling? I think everyone here can see who wins smack troll awards around here. Just look in the mirror, Mr. Hypocrite.
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.13 04:56:00 - [87] Edited by: Baun on 13/05/2007 04:54:11 woops. The Enemy's Gate is Down
UGWidowmaker Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 06:06:00 - [88] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=519530 nerf of cap shipss--- if we suck at pvp then why come fight us all the time ???
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.05.13 06:21:00 - [89] Originally by: Dracolich Clearly the blunder of it all, was that the Coalition attacked MC instead of hiring them. They did attempt to hire MC, MC was not interested in working against BoB. They set terms they knew would not be acceptable for employment such that noone could afford to pay it, and that is why they were not hired by anyone. The problem of the SuperBlob is two fold really: 1. The game engine cannot handle the dreamed of massive fleet battles. This has been shown over and over since almost the dawn of warfare in EVE. For a long time CCP ignored this and hoped for the best. However after the battle of LV1V they decided to take others steps. As far as we know they did not officially tell the player base of their decision, primarily because they were to preoccupied with K's revelations to properly address the situation. This led them to make a game change, which though it had been mentioned many months beforehand had never been enforced. It was the changing of the policy of enforcement that really changed the tune of the war. The only real advantage the coalition had over BoB's forces was numbers. CCP removed that advantage by capping systems to 700 pilots at a time. This wracked havoc at the battle of the BoB Shipyards. It also cast more doubt on CCPs ability to act impartially. The coalition capital losses at the BoB Shipyards was more due to the CCP enforcement change than anything BoB itself did. Since that time we've not seen a major Coalition force assemble because a some lost heart. They had worked hard, coordinated well and assembled a great fleet and it was all nullified by CCPs decision. Had CCP given warning of the change in enforcement as they should have, the battle at the BoB shipyards probably would have taken a different tone. But not giving that warning has damaged the spirit. 2. Titans. BoB currently has the most titans that are publicly known. They can remote detonate killing billions in a shot for around 20 million in cost per shot. That's not a real good risk vs reward ratio. Since there is no risk to the Titan since it is not present at the battle. The only really effective counter strategy was to use blob tactics where you brought as many as you could and hoped that you could have enough survive the titan blasts to achieve your goal. With the limit imposed in point one, that strategy is no longer effective. Titans need to be nerfed considerably. The first nerfing needs to be the removal of remote detonation. The next point that needs changing is that they need to decrease the area of effect or decrease the damage dealt. Alternately to decreasing one of these two you could require a siege mode where the Titan cannot move prior to the firing of the DD and after firing it for a set amount of time. It is these two factors that have led to the superblob more than anything else in the game. Unless they are addressed and lets face it on point one is something that cannot be easily fixed with current technology then the superblob will continue. Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
Kurfi' Legimo PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2007.05.13 06:34:00 - [90] Oh noes run for the hills!!! The blob is comming! -Kurfi stop nerfing my sig devs =p
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.13 06:50:00 - [91] Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf Originally by: Dracolich Clearly the blunder of it all, was that the Coalition attacked MC instead of hiring them. They did attempt to hire MC No. Not one member of the Northern powers attempted to contact me with regard to making a serious offer against their enemies. - Vid - 'P-2 Defense'
Rivek Sniggerdly	Posted - 2007.05.13 06:55:00 - [92] Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf stuff above Pretty much nailed it.
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.05.13 07:18:00 - [93] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf Originally by: Dracolich Clearly the blunder of it all, was that the Coalition attacked MC instead of hiring them. They did attempt to hire MC No. Not one member of the Northern powers attempted to contact me with regard to making a serious offer against their enemies. I respect you Seleene, of the BoB allied forces you and DS seem the most honest and forthright. However by this statement alone you admit they did contact you. I also made no mention of who in the coalition did. You took their efforts as being insincere, however they also took offering you anything great was a risk they couldn't take since your systems border on BoB sovereign space. Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.13 08:00:00 - [94] The whole OP is fundamentally flawed. This is the very definition of a 'whine' thread. The OP states, broadly; * Game mechanics (which are the same for all) allow capital blobs * BoB & friends play the game very well, and have the biggest capital blob * BoB and friends then use these legitimate game mechanics to win fights/seiges * Therefore we must change game mechanics. Frankly - whatever the game mechanics, BoB would still be winning, because quite simply they play the game better than anyone else at the moment. Whining about the mechanics we are all subject to, and claiming they somehow intrisically favour BoB, is ludicrous. BoB adapted to the game mechanics, not the other way around. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Indiano Arko Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.13 08:04:00 - [95] I'm gonna quote some guy bio (think it was either guy from CI or from F-E... can't remind clearly) When you fight you can lose, when you don't fight you already lost.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 08:53:00 - [96] Originally by: Crimsonjade you havnt seen the D2 superblob??!?!?! its in e,mpire... there MS is camping a gate. smartbombing frigs and shuttle.. guess its better than letting it rust in a pos somewhere.. but hey at least BOB has theres in 0.0. Obviously the OP is an unhappy goon alt which our current fleet is interrupting his npcing schedule in tenerfis. Imo this just sums it up about that this alt made this post in the first place :p Originally by: Johana Walker And please stop insulting coallition FC's. Your cap ships have how much in high end faction mods. You aren't out manuvering the coallition you are PWNing them the same way a HAC PWNs say an incursus. The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...). BNC Vs CELES Video
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 09:00:00 - [97] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 13/05/2007 09:00:34 To be perfectly honest, the coalation needs to get its priorities right. I never understood the concept of investing in Suicide POS's in some vain hope that the enemy will get so bored that they will log off and quit the game. Of course, it is very easy to embezzel corp wallets in suicide pos's. It is easy to take 12bil to buy pos's and only spend 10bil, and nobody would be any wiser Or even buy items via corp wallet and Paul McKenna them away into private hangers But seriously - if the coalation actually invested in their fleet - Yes I said it - actually spend some of their suicide pos/embezzelment isk on actually investing and developing the front line troops - Then things would get a lot more exciting. -- Billion Isk Mission
Hast Refused.	Posted - 2007.05.13 09:43:00 - [98] as said earlier in the thread, the coalition also has supercapitals. Its just that their owners have more or less gone awol and is pirating low sec with them. That is part of the reason you are loosing. Also you should really start to work on tactics to either kill or work around motherships (hint render them useless) It is possible you know. And as I said earlier nothing is stopping the coalition from building their own supercaps. Right now you are whining about the fact that the gamemechanics arent working in your favour and instead of adapting, you throw your toys out of the pram. Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
King Fury Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.13 09:49:00 - [99] Originally by: nickycakes A thousand nations of the BoB empire descend upon you. Our Powerblob will blot out the sun! Lol funny comment coming from an LV Loser
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 09:59:00 - [100] Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 09:58:20 Originally by: King Fury Originally by: nickycakes A thousand nations of the BoB empire descend upon you. Our Powerblob will blot out the sun! Lol funny comment coming from an LV Loser Hmmm, I quite frankly don't understand your definition of 'looser'.... One of the following two is a looser.... a) The guy who gets knocked down, gets back on his feet and start fighting again? b) The guy who gets knocked down, and go whining/flaming on the forum? Which???? Seems your strange definition is a). (FYI, the guy you quoted is back out fighting. Look him up on our KB if you're doubting me)... My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
King Fury Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:03:00 - [101] Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 09:58:20 Originally by: King Fury Originally by: nickycakes A thousand nations of the BoB empire descend upon you. Our Powerblob will blot out the sun! Lol funny comment coming from an LV Loser Hmmm, I quite frankly don't understand your definition of 'looser'.... One of the following two is a looser.... a) The guy who gets knocked down, gets back on his feet and start fighting again? b) The guy who gets knocked down, and go whining/flaming on the forum? Which???? Seems your strange definition is a). (FYI, the guy you quoted is back out fighting. Look him up on our KB if you're doubting me)... Shinra failed as a corp and LV failed as an alliance, the weak willed jumped ship to RKK and took LVs titan with them, now all the same smacktards in LV are just continuing to smack now under BoBs banner. Kinda amusing
Guderian Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:17:00 - [102] Originally by: King Fury Shinra failed as a corp and LV failed as an alliance, the weak willed jumped ship to RKK and took LVs titan with them, now all the same smacktards in LV are just continuing to smack now under BoBs banner. Kinda amusing But atleast they are out killing your main and taking your home in Tenerifes instead of on the boards whining like you. "Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lie beyond."
Jonathan Peterbilt Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:22:00 - [103] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf Originally by: Dracolich Clearly the blunder of it all, was that the Coalition attacked MC instead of hiring them. They did attempt to hire MC No. Not one member of the Northern powers attempted to contact me with regard to making a serious offer against their enemies. No? I thought AAA was sent to represent Coalition in contracting MC. Really, Coalition planed to kill MC as much as they planed to kill BOB. Don't think they ever wanted to hire them.
King Fury Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:23:00 - [104] Originally by: Guderian Originally by: King Fury Shinra failed as a corp and LV failed as an alliance, the weak willed jumped ship to RKK and took LVs titan with them, now all the same smacktards in LV are just continuing to smack now under BoBs banner. Kinda amusing But atleast they are out killing your main and taking your home in Tenerifes instead of on the boards whining like you. Funny how bob are composed of loseres like you who dont have the guts to fight, (jumping to RKK was lame) and now shouting how uber they are after they have been in corp five mins.
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:31:00 - [105] Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 10:40:21 Originally by: King Fury Something about being a looser and not having the guts to fight..... Stats taken from BoB killboard. King Fury: 0 Kills, 0 Losses nickycakes: 109 kills, 2 losses Guderian: 61 kills, 8 losses EDIT: Comment on below post... I think my point is VERY VERY clear My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
King Fury Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:36:00 - [106] Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 10:30:59 Originally by: King Fury Something about being a looser and not having the guts to fight..... Stats taken from BoB killboard. King Fury: 0 Kills, 0 Losses nickycakes: 109 kills, 2 losses Guderian: 61 kills, 8 losses And your point is? Fighting with BoB takes guts Shame they didnt have the guts before LV got anihilated
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:45:00 - [107] Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 10:30:59 Originally by: King Fury Something about being a looser and not having the guts to fight..... Stats taken from BoB killboard. King Fury: 0 Kills, 0 Losses nickycakes: 109 kills, 2 losses Guderian: 61 kills, 8 losses And your point is? Fighting with BoB takes guts Shame they didnt have the guts before LV got anihilated It certainly takes more guts than flaming people on an alt in an NPC corp, that's for sure. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
Guderian Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:53:00 - [108] Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Guderian Originally by: King Fury Shinra failed as a corp and LV failed as an alliance, the weak willed jumped ship to RKK and took LVs titan with them, now all the same smacktards in LV are just continuing to smack now under BoBs banner. Kinda amusing But atleast they are out killing your main and taking your home in Tenerifes instead of on the boards whining like you. Funny how bob are composed of loseres like you who dont have the guts to fight, (jumping to RKK was lame) and now shouting how uber they are after they have been in corp five mins. I'm sure that since bob is made up of loosers, you have nothing to worry about. About Shinra merging into RKK, then its the same guys that were instrumental in helping LV claim all the space we once had, that are now in BOB. Yes, LV as an alliance got kicked out of our regions and crumpled under the pressure of the coalition. But now the same guys are back in Tenerifes and figthing the coalition in the systems LV owned, just under a different banner. So your main in GOON might have disposed of LV name, but certainly not the members. And it sounds like it's driving you cracy that you couldn't get people to stop fighting you, so you can NPC/mine in peace. "Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lie beyond."
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.13 11:02:00 - [109] Edited by: welsh wizard on 13/05/2007 11:00:13 3 months is probably a little optimistic but hes essentially right. edit: imo
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.13 11:12:00 - [110] Originally by: Guderian Originally by: King Fury snip I'm sure that since bob is made up of loosers, you have nothing to worry about. About Shinra merging into RKK, then its the same guys that were instrumental in helping LV claim all the space we once had, that are now in BOB. Yes, LV as an alliance got kicked out of our regions and crumpled under the pressure of the coalition. But now the same guys are back in Tenerifes and figthing the coalition in the systems LV owned, just under a different banner. So your main in GOON might have disposed of LV name, but certainly not the members. And it sounds like it's driving you cracy that you couldn't get people to stop fighting you, so you can NPC/mine in peace. Actually, if he wanted to he could easily mine in peace. All he has to do is put (one of) his characters in a BoB renter corp and mine and rat in peace without anyone bothering him. signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.05.13 11:20:00 - [111] its best to avoid getting involved in the uber cap blob warfare unless u are a power gamer. the whole thing has been handled VERY badly by ccp, especially the MS and titans, i mean wtf ccp were u thinking?. maybe next time think then act. i very hi % of eve are casual gamers working hard just to get into and equip BS, u think they enjoy being doomsdayd from ships 20 jumps away?, look after ur bread and butter boys. im far away from all that stupidity. d solo. celes apoc new kilboard
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 11:20:00 - [112] Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 11:21:16 Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf CCP removed that advantage by capping systems to 700 pilots at a time. I know that this is the principal tinfoilhattery theory, but look here for a more plausible theory (last half of post), especially since local in F-TE1T never exceeded 550 according to people who were there (I was lagged out in the next system and couldn't get in either). 550 is NOT equal to 700.... Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf BoB currently has the most titans that are publicly known. Currently, yes, but up until last week, the Titan numbers were EVEN! 3 for us, 3 for the cryalition. If they are such non-surmountable obstacles, how come we're not bothered? Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf They can remote detonate killing billions in a shot for around 20 million in cost per shot. Yes, they can do that, but afaik (and from personal observation), that is a feature far more used by the cryalition titan pilots than ours. Cyno-DD is not all that effective, since the cyno going up is an instant warning to everyone on grid (in comparison, the DD effect takes a while to be really visible). Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf The only really effective counter strategy was to use blob tactics where you brought as many as you could and hoped that you could have enough survive the titan blasts to achieve your goal. THAT, is just about the worst strategy I've ever heard!!! My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 11:22:00 - [113] Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 11:20:12 Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Guderian Stuff... Actually, if he wanted to he could easily mine in peace. All he has to do is put (one of) his characters in a BoB renter corp and mine and rat in peace without anyone bothering him. Malachon, you DO realise how badly your comment here just PWN'd the cryalition??? My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Bibi Minmatar North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.13 11:28:00 - [114] Johana Walker you are worried about the whole damn eve world. maybe its tooooo much for you ? go play something else.... please
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Sean Drake Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.13 11:54:00 - [116] I am now starting to think CCP should nerf cap ships as it might be worth it to stop all the god damn MOANING from what passes for a coallition. I'm not going to point out or cherry pick quotes from Goons and friends in other threads defending the use of node killing super blobs during there war with LV that would be too easy. I'm not going to point out that if got your SuperCap ship pilots to stop piwating in low sec and come and fight it might help that would be too easy. I'm not going to point out that if you could pry RA out of the complexs and into the front lines might help and that giving them all the complexs BEFORE the war was finished was silly we all know that was all they wanted that would be too easy. I'm all so not going to point out that whenever one of you nubs posts on here either with "waaaaa wwaaa were losing nerf somthing" or "were uber and all the BoB pets are going to die" etc you really just give us a nice warm fuzzy feeling That would be too easy. But you see thats the nice kinda guy I am so I won't mention any of it. Besides everyone knows this is far from over.
HordeZla Domination.	Posted - 2007.05.13 12:37:00 - [117] Originally by: Johana Walker About 150 Caps and various super caps depending on the day. So far every single entity that has the superblob has taken one look at it, decided that there was no way in hell they could fight it, and gone away. Lets be honest the only thing keeping the superblob from sweaping all in it's way is the logistics time it take to take another system. Where are the rest of the coallition, desparately trying to build more (super)caps if they have any sense. Unless somebody can kill the superblob this will all be over in two or three months with BoB controlling most of conquorable 0.0. At that point the only thing that can threaten the BoB age is CCP changing game mechanics so that supercaps can be built at NPC stations. God some day's I hate this game. When you have stopped crying like a little girl, can I have your stuff?
Corphus ShaK Scientific	Posted - 2007.05.13 12:58:00 - [118] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf Originally by: Dracolich Clearly the blunder of it all, was that the Coalition attacked MC instead of hiring them. They did attempt to hire MC No. Not one member of the Northern powers attempted to contact me with regard to making a serious offer against their enemies. you wouldnt accept an offer which includes fighting vs ur business partners i guess tho. u must think about it that way, the coalition doesnt trust mc since they reside under bobs supremacy. trust is the most valuable good in eve. the coalition wouldnt give away their trust that easily. another point is your price. i wouldnt spend/risk that amout of isk for hiring someone to do the work for me. i would invest it in my own power instead. i guess they basement for mercenary work is absolute neutrality. without absolute neutrality you cant offer a trustworthy service, even if ur achievements speak for themselves. consequently siding with bob in this conflict kind of ruined ur repetition with the half of eve since there is the bob power block and the coalition power block (wrong time, wrong place). the rest simply cant hire u due to ur exorbitant conditions. but correct me if im wrong. something i walways wanted to know is the base hirng price for an "bring my enemy the apocalypse" service with the duration of a month?
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 13:03:00 - [119] Originally by: Corphus something i walways wanted to know is the base hirng price for an "bring my enemy the apocalypse" service with the duration of a month? A region or two of space ? No seriously, stop whining at the MC for taking a contract. Stop whining that they need to be absolutely spotless and completely neutral. They don't. They don't need you, you need them. [center] Old blog
wierchas noobhunter Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.13 13:04:00 - [120] Originally by: Hast My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing. i think u sooo wrong here .. bob are next if not well we know everything then ...
JackOfHearts Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.13 13:12:00 - [121] All I can say is, it's been a great war, great battles, great fun.
Mah Kraah Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.13 13:21:00 - [122] Originally by: Olav the way i see it the super blobs of cap ship on bothe sides take away something from the game. it kinda remember me of an old game called planetarion that after a while was ruled by a few big allaince and that made the game borring after a while. the same thing are happening to this game. sorry posted with teh wronge character only difference: planetarion got reset every 3 month to break off that endgame boredom. eve dont have this option. i personaly dont see that finit domination of the bob side. from my outsider view the coalition can still neutralize them if they where a more united front. on the otherhand, if the coalition would do everything right it would result in battles of a sice the server can not even dream of handling. ccp, u have a problem and tbh i dont have a idear about a solution. a reset and restart from scratch would solve everything but it would also solve the headache of ccp how to spend all the money from the players coz they would not have any..... the situation now is a verry sad indication that eve might not be infinite, ccp, prepare urselfe
Pwn4ge P4nts Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.13 15:43:00 - [123] First!
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 15:51:00 - [124] Originally by: Rod Blaine They don't need you, you need them. We might need many things. However, iffy mercs are not one of them.
Witty Moniker Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:00:00 - [125] Originally by: Hast as said earlier in the thread, the coalition also has supercapitals. Its just that their owners have more or less gone awol and is pirating low sec with them. That is part of the reason you are loosing. Also you should really start to work on tactics to either kill or work around motherships (hint render them useless) It is possible you know. And as I said earlier nothing is stopping the coalition from building their own supercaps. Right now you are whining about the fact that the gamemechanics arent working in your favour and instead of adapting, you throw your toys out of the pram. I love this guy.
Ace Frehley Minmatar Fist of the Empire	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:35:00 - [126] Btw, when you have whined enuf for today, I just wanna add abit extra cheese here. WTB 0.0 SPACE!! We can¦t pay more then 50 mil per station and we demand the sellers provide pos-sov and protect us when we suck on roids, npc¦s or goin out for pew pew. Contact me ingame Ps, if 50 mil is not enuf we can provide freshly taken nudiepics of our gloryes ceo Ratboy Deblade posing with my archon driven upp his a** inappropriate content removed - Deckard
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:40:00 - [127] Originally by: Witty Moniker Edited by: Witty Moniker on 13/05/2007 16:03:46 Originally by: Hast as said earlier in the thread, the coalition also has supercapitals. Its just that their owners have more or less gone awol and is pirating low sec with them. That is part of the reason you are loosing. Also you should really start to work on tactics to either kill or work around motherships (hint render them useless) It is possible you know. And as I said earlier nothing is stopping the coalition from building their own supercaps. Right now you are whining about the fact that the gamemechanics arent working in your favour and instead of adapting, you throw your toys out of the pram. I love this guy. Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 11:21:16 Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf CCP removed that advantage by capping systems to 700 pilots at a time. I know that this is the principal tinfoilhattery theory, but look here for a more plausible theory (last half of post), especially since local in F-TE1T never exceeded 550 according to people who were there (I was lagged out in the next system and couldn't get in either). 550 is NOT equal to 700.... I was in F-T when it all happened, and I can confirm this. Yes there was lag, but it was playable. Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping. ----
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:45:00 - [128] Originally by: Guderian Originally by: King Fury snip I'm sure that since bob is made up of loosers, you have nothing to worry about. About Shinra merging into RKK, then its the same guys that were instrumental in helping LV claim all the space we once had, that are now in BOB. Yes, LV as an alliance got kicked out of our regions and crumpled under the pressure of the coalition. But now the same guys are back in Tenerifes and figthing the coalition in the systems LV owned, just under a different banner. So your main in GOON might have disposed of LV name, but certainly not the members. And it sounds like it's driving you cracy that you couldn't get people to stop fighting you, so you can NPC/mine in peace. Ah the great Shinra merger with RKK (god somebody in BE must be *****ing up reading that). Hum BoB wouldn't accept a corp with >20m SP characters so they made you disban and dump your nubs. The fact that you went through with it says all the needs to be said about the honor of the former Shinra.
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:48:00 - [129] Originally by: Narciss Sevar Originally by: Witty Moniker Stuff....I was in F-T when it all happened, and I can confirm this. Yes there was lag, but it was playable. Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping. Everything but F-TE1T was lagged to a four-letter word or even worse (F-TE1T only halfway to a four-letter word). I was in the system next door (most of BoB actually weren't in F-TE1T), and had activation-lag of 10-15 minutes I finally got in after about 1-1.5 hours (and this was 1 jump!), and after bubbling up dreads for 10-20 minutes, my poor little 'dictor got blown up by drones I didn't even see. My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:50:00 - [130] Edited by: Johana Walker on 13/05/2007 16:48:46 Double post
Dukath Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:58:00 - [131] Originally by: Tzrailasa Originally by: Narciss Sevar Originally by: Witty Moniker Stuff....I was in F-T when it all happened, and I can confirm this. Yes there was lag, but it was playable. Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping. Everything but F-TE1T was lagged to a four-letter word or even worse (F-TE1T only halfway to a four-letter word). I was in the system next door (most of BoB actually weren't in F-TE1T), and had activation-lag of 10-15 minutes I finally got in after about 1-1.5 hours (and this was 1 jump!), and after bubbling up dreads for 10-20 minutes, my poor little 'dictor got blown up by drones I didn't even see. heh, i loaded a total of 8 (eight) hostile dreads at the POS. Then nothing else, not even a awrp out and warp in worked. Only after the battle was finished and everyone stopped shooting did the rest appear on my screen. All while I heard target calling and reports of 70 hostile dreads in grid ...
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:03:00 - [132] Originally by: Johana Walker Originally by: Guderian Originally by: King Fury snip I'm sure that since bob is made up of loosers, you have nothing to worry about. About Shinra merging into RKK, then its the same guys that were instrumental in helping LV claim all the space we once had, that are now in BOB. Yes, LV as an alliance got kicked out of our regions and crumpled under the pressure of the coalition. But now the same guys are back in Tenerifes and figthing the coalition in the systems LV owned, just under a different banner. So your main in GOON might have disposed of LV name, but certainly not the members. And it sounds like it's driving you cracy that you couldn't get people to stop fighting you, so you can NPC/mine in peace. Ah the great Shinra merger with RKK (god somebody in BE must be ***ing up reading that). Hum BoB wouldn't accept a corp with >20m SP characters so they made you disban and dump your nubs. The fact that you went through with it says all the needs to be said about the honor of the former Shinra. Indeed, it was great. Thankfully, you are oblivious to the entire situation itself. In return for your glorious fanfare, I dare not enlighten you. I hardly think you have room to speak on the subject of Honor in EVE--I see nothing but bitterness and aggravation flowing from your fingertips (the Icelandic gods of EVE would frown upon your obstructive lack of glee!) Nebba** - The Vocal Majority
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:08:00 - [133] Originally by: Tzrailasa Originally by: Narciss Sevar Originally by: Witty Moniker Stuff....I was in F-T when it all happened, and I can confirm this. Yes there was lag, but it was playable. Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping. Everything but F-TE1T was lagged to a four-letter word or even worse (F-TE1T only halfway to a four-letter word). I was in the system next door (most of BoB actually weren't in F-TE1T), and had activation-lag of 10-15 minutes I finally got in after about 1-1.5 hours (and this was 1 jump!), and after bubbling up dreads for 10-20 minutes, my poor little 'dictor got blown up by drones I didn't even see. It seems CCP is introducing POS jumpgates to help alleviate some of this. On the other hand as only the defenders will be able to use them I give it a 50/50 chance of failing horribly.
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:16:00 - [134] Originally by: Johana Walker Originally by: Tzrailasa Everything but F-TE1T was lagged to a four-letter word or even worse (F-TE1T only halfway to a four-letter word). I was in the system next door (most of BoB actually weren't in F-TE1T), and had activation-lag of 10-15 minutes I finally got in after about 1-1.5 hours (and this was 1 jump!), and after bubbling up dreads for 10-20 minutes, my poor little 'dictor got blown up by drones I didn't even see. It seems CCP is introducing POS jumpgates to help alleviate some of this. On the other hand as only the defenders will be able to use them I give it a 50/50 chance of failing horribly. Jump-gates are a bad idea imho. It'll make roaming inside enemy territory a useless tool of war... What this game needs are MORE incentive for people to be out in space, not less.... My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Ditchdoctor Minmatar Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:18:00 - [135] Originally by: Johana Walker About 150 Caps and various super caps depending on the day. So far every single entity that has the superblob has taken one look at it, decided that there was no way in hell they could fight it, and gone away. Lets be honest the only thing keeping the superblob from sweaping all in it's way is the logistics time it take to take another system. Where are the rest of the coallition, desparately trying to build more (super)caps if they have any sense. Unless somebody can kill the superblob this will all be over in two or three months with BoB controlling most of conquorable 0.0. At that point the only thing that can threaten the BoB age is CCP changing game mechanics so that supercaps can be built at NPC stations. God some day's I hate this game. Boo hoo. They picked a fight and the enemy unleashed a millitary power that destroys pretty much everything in its path. Get over it. Either start working together or read the tutorials on empire mission running because your going to need it. Cheers
Guderian Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:30:00 - [136] Originally by: Ditchdoctor Originally by: Johana Walker About 150 Caps and various super caps depending on the day. So far every single entity that has the superblob has taken one look at it, decided that there was no way in hell they could fight it, and gone away. Lets be honest the only thing keeping the superblob from sweaping all in it's way is the logistics time it take to take another system. Where are the rest of the coallition, desparately trying to build more (super)caps if they have any sense. Unless somebody can kill the superblob this will all be over in two or three months with BoB controlling most of conquorable 0.0. At that point the only thing that can threaten the BoB age is CCP changing game mechanics so that supercaps can be built at NPC stations. God some day's I hate this game. Boo hoo. They picked a fight and the enemy unleashed a millitary power that destroys pretty much everything in its path. Get over it. Either start working together or read the tutorials on empire mission running because your going to need it. Cheers I couldn't agree more. The coalition started the whole choo-choo train concept, and now they are crying about numbers and blobs. Where is that caddlewagon now? Wasn't it supposed to hit nol- acouple of months ago? Or are you content with capturing the complexes in detorid for RA? "Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lie beyond."
Lakedaimon Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:41:00 - [137] Edited by: Lakedaimon on 13/05/2007 17:39:53 Quote: Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping. I spent about three hours trying to get into F-T. When I finally did, exactly one enemy carrier and two friendly inties loaded when I warped to where the battle was. We shot at the carrier for a bit before it simply disappeared, and that's pretty much all that happened in F-T for me. Lag seems to affect everyone differently. Bad luck for me, I envy the ones who managed to get in-system and actually do something. That doesn't mean that I won't be there the next time. What I don't understand is how some members of the Coalition can be complaining about blobs. Posts from the beginning of this war made by the Coalition praised their gigantic arsenal of capital ships and promised to steamroll the Alliance with said megafleet as well as to instantly replace any cap losses. Quite a few of you didn't seem to mind blob warfare back then, so why the change of heart now?
zincol S.A.S	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:47:00 - [138] Sheeeeeeeeet guys they iz coming the maaahoouuuusssivvveee blob!!!1! Cntrl Q until they leave in 1week! Good job to BoB for keeping them selfs together and not disbanding or falling into peices internaly unlike many other alliances in EvE when such events happen. So what that BoB + Co has a massive cap blob or what ever,Cant beat em join em? Anyways quit the moaning
Firane 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:48:00 - [139] Edited by: Firane on 13/05/2007 17:45:56 Originally by: Guderian I couldn't agree more. The coalition started the whole choo-choo train concept, and now they are crying about numbers and blobs. Where is that caddlewagon now? Wasn't it supposed to hit nol- acouple of months ago? Or are you content with capturing the complexes in detorid for RA? One does not simply walk into NOL... -----
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:50:00 - [140] Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 17:49:09 Originally by: Lakedaimon Quote: Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping. I spent about three hours trying to get into F-T. When I finally did, exactly one enemy carrier and two friendly inties loaded when I warped to where the battle was. We shot at the carrier for a bit before it simply disappeared, and that's pretty much all that happened in F-T for me. Lag seems to affect everyone differently. Bad luck for me, I envy the ones who managed to get in-system and actually do something. That doesn't mean that I won't be there the next time. What I don't understand is how some members of the Coalition can be complaining about blobs. Posts from the beginning of this war made by the Coalition praised their gigantic arsenal of capital ships and promised to steamroll the Alliance with said megafleet as well as to instantly replace any cap losses. Quite a few of you didn't seem to mind blob warfare back then, so why the change of heart now? The thing was, that they figured they'd use their Cap fleet with impunity. I.e. jump in, start shooting the target, node lagging, node crashing. Target dying without any risk. Trouble was, CCP fixed the bug they were intending to (ab)use... FYI: The Cryalition Cap count is probably higher than ours.. You don't hear us whining though... My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Fabrice Enchante Gallente Active Measures	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:52:00 - [141] One does not simply post on CAOD. ================<ACTME>======================= Solutions to problems require Active Measures.
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:55:00 - [142] The Coalition cap ship count is the same if not more than the Alliance.
rig0r 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:57:00 - [143] I just killed the superblob. Everything is fine now. Return to your homes.
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.13 18:10:00 - [144] This is why most vets are either joining bob or joining roaming ganka corps/alliances a la outbreak so that if a capital fleet comes its way they simply move on somewhere else. Why risk 2bn isk ships in fights where you are 90% certain to lose them - just get in a HAC/cmd ship and go gank ratters. Much more civilised.
Varban II Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat	Posted - 2007.05.13 23:26:00 - [145] Edited by: Varban II on 13/05/2007 23:26:58 Well if the superblob annoys people so much just fit DD resistance fitting. Never thought of that have you V2 shows you his "I survived a DD and all i got was this lousy T-Shhirt" T-shirt Regards, Kind V2 Everyone has the right to be stupid. Some people just abuse that privilege!
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.13 23:34:00 - [146] Originally by: Varban II Well if the superblob annoys people so much just fit DD resistance fitting. Never thought of that have you And when the enemy has one of each race doing every damage type what do you suggest then?
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.13 23:36:00 - [147] Originally by: Dawn Princess Originally by: Varban II Well if the superblob annoys people so much just fit DD resistance fitting. Never thought of that have you And when the enemy has one of each race doing every damage type what do you suggest then? Warp out? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Chirinako Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.13 23:40:00 - [148] Wow. The north complain about us camping them with 100-150 people. The ultimate hypocracy. At the beginning of this war, ED- in Querious was seiged by over 250 coalition pilots 3 nights in a row. You weren't complaining then were you? Of course not. You're only complaining now because we didn't lose our stations and you did. Verily it seems, the care cup is empty. As to people complaining about MC's neutrality - If you were in Bob's shoes and had the resources to fund hiring a force like MC, you wouldn't be complaining. If you want to combat them, adapt. Don't whine. You can't win fleet battles on the forums.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.14 00:59:00 - [149] Originally by: OzaLoni Originally by: sakana One does not simply kill a superblob Sorry, there is but one version of this quote. Quote: One does not simply walk into fountain! Please be sure to use the correct version of this quote in future. spoilsport!! anywho, the true version of that quote is the real one ------------
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:01:00 - [150] This thread starts off being awesome with hast accusing the MC of not being worth their salt, then just gets better and better :D
IamBen Caldari Twilight Void	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:06:00 - [151] Originally by: Kyguard That's no moon.. Turn the fleet around... :)
Trind2222 Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:10:00 - [152] Originally by: KIATolon This thread starts off being awesome with hast accusing the MC of not being worth their salt, then just gets better and better :D That is coming from some one in a aliance who logg off if some one can mach the number in your gang?
Tree Fiddy Caldari Heretic Entity	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:11:00 - [153] Originally by: KIATolon This thread starts off being awesome with hast accusing the MC of not being worth their salt, then just gets better and better :D At least he didnt say something really outrageous like the coalition of strangers have a clue. I say I ain't giving you no tree fiddy you goddamned Loch Ness monster.
Raznarok Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:14:00 - [154] This is the best thread ever! * Kicks back with a cookie and milk
dastommy79 Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:15:00 - [155] The only problem with the powerblob i have is that it decreases pvp. This is whether your a member of the coalition or the alliance. The titans and moms ruin what would be great fights. I'll give you an example. Couple weeks back, an FLA pos was coming out of reinforcement. The call went out for all available pilots to be in 0-2 to try and defend it. We all assumed that they would bring a large support fleet, say 60-80ish ships to lock down the system so their 10-20 caps could jump in to finish the job. We had around 50-60 in gang with about 5 carriers in a support role at the pos. About half of our gang was in ospreys trying to rep the shields(including me.... wish i never trained the remote rep skill) along with the carriers. We had the other 30ish on the agg gate with fighters assigned. Our pvp force was mostly t1 cruisers and frigates with maybe 10 bs's. After some time a 35-40 bs heavy hostile fleet arrives in agg and sits on the O-2 gate. So this is it. Its gonna be a tough fight especialy when the MC moms cyno in but we have to do our best to save the POS. The ospreys stay at the pos, its at 43%. We need to hold out for another 10 or so mins. Hostile cyno goes up at the gate, everyone prepares for the support to jump in. Instead Orange species comes in(only bob titan pilot who's not a **** btw) and Doomsdays our t1 support fleet. Almost everyone on the gate wakes up in the station, grabs another ship and gets out back into the fight. Nothing happens. The enemy doesnt jump in, we keep repping the pos to 50% and get some more stront into it. What would have been an awesome small fleet fight turned into nothing because the enemy wouldnt engage even though it was roughly even numbers. People dont seem to want to fight if they dont have 3-1 odds in their favor. So then they blob and the other side counterblobs and the node dies and no one has fun. The super blob eliminates any chance of a fun fight like how that could have been. both sides are guilty of it and honestly its killing the fun out of the game. If people are afraid to fight in an almost even fight, why would they bother going against the blob. So props to MC for being able to put such a thing together to attack the North but we would all have had a lot more fun if we scaled this down a bit. What we need more in eve is what that fight could have been not the direction fleet warfare has taken http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:31:00 - [156] I actually dont mind fighting motherships... and almost killed one once. It was great fun, the MS pilot was awesome, and a great sport, and at as I said, at one point we almost had him. It gets slightly less interesting when the ship you're trying to kill destroys all bubbles and pretty much everything else within 250km and has enough cap to cyno out before everyone has unlagged.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:50:00 - [157] Originally by: Tree Fiddy Originally by: KIATolon This thread starts off being awesome with hast accusing the MC of not being worth their salt, then just gets better and better :D At least he didnt say something really outrageous like the coalition of strangers have a clue. Why not go post another constructive thread? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=520081
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:52:00 - [158] Originally by: Chirinako Wow. The north complain about us camping them with 100-150 people. The ultimate hypocracy. At the beginning of this war, ED- in Querious was seiged by over 250 coalition pilots 3 nights in a row. Try not to label everyone who was a part of the initial attack on Querious as the collective authors of this thread or the opinions held theirin. Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
Chirinako Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:54:00 - [159] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: Chirinako Wow. The north complain about us camping them with 100-150 people. The ultimate hypocracy. At the beginning of this war, ED- in Querious was seiged by over 250 coalition pilots 3 nights in a row. Try not to label everyone who was a part of the initial attack on Querious as the collective authors of this thread or the opinions held theirin. Yes I apologise for that. I should have been more specific - That was not aimed at Triumvarte and the other alliances that are not hypocrites, you all know who you are.
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.14 07:14:00 - [160] Edited by: Tzrailasa on 14/05/2007 07:12:01 Originally by: dastommy79 The only problem with the powerblob i have is that it decreases pvp. This is whether your a member of the coalition or the alliance. The titans and moms ruin what would be great fights. You're blaming the wrong reason... Originally by: dastommy79 People dont seem to want to fight if they dont have 3-1 odds in their favor. THIS is the real reason fights don't happen... We see it all the time down south. The only fights we can get people to commit to are when they outnumber us 3-1. Otherwise we only get fights when they forget to scout... The problem is not the super-caps (they're involved in what, maybe 5% of all fights?), but people not having the guts to loose ships... A snip from another post (yes, I know it's slightly out of context) Originally by: Dawn Princess Why risk 2bn isk ships in fights sums it up perfectly... Oh, and FYI. Super-cap numbers are roughly equal on the two sides of the conflict, with the cryalition being ahead on capitals, but you don't hear us moaning... My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Hast Refused.	Posted - 2007.05.14 07:32:00 - [161] Originally by: KIATolon This thread starts off being awesome with hast accusing the MC of not being worth their salt, then just gets better and better :D ORLY? Then tell me dear tolon, how many supercaps does Goonfleet has, or your beloved BOS? I just dont see how you can get a dig at the MC out of my post. the fact is that MC/YW et al. are steamrolling the north. Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
Custodiae Fatal's Marauders Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.05.14 07:56:00 - [162] Originally by: Dracolich Clearly the blunder of it all, was that the Coalition attacked MC instead of hiring them. Indeed.
Viliny principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.14 09:26:00 - [163] Originally by: Aphotic Raven Originally by: jbob2000 The superblob does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. The superblob goes killing. The superblob does not have a chin. Beneath its beard lies yet another fist. I've been on the receiving end of the superblob and to be honest without the titans it would be fine... as it is now resistance is futile! Theres plenty of NPC stations out there... so like Evolution says: Those who cannot adapt get stepped on by devs Post with your main if you wanna moan at least Family guy quote!
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited	Posted - 2007.05.14 09:33:00 - [164] Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Your covert implications that we blob with overwhelming force are absurd. First point: Coalition brought 200 capitals into Delve for the F-TE1T theatre, 50 more than we had. Second point: We only pulled those kinda numbers once. Speaking from the best of my knowledge, you should be replacing FCs, not building more ships. We got jumped once and took a fairly good hit when 9 BoB dreadnaughts were downed, but returned the favour to the Coalition of Family Values at least ten times. And lastly, the end was supposed to be nigh 2-3 months after EC-P8R. Are you saying we have to wait another 2-3 months until EVE is ours? :( PS: The end is nigh. Yeah you gotta wait along with the dev's until its all youes, its like sexmas u gotta wait for that too
MKeeper Midnight Cartel	Posted - 2007.05.14 09:35:00 - [165] Originally by: Tzrailasa ...cryalition... Grow up. (about as trite and childish as 'BoD')
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.14 10:11:00 - [166] Originally by: Tzrailasa The only fights we can get people to commit to are when they outnumber us 3-1. Otherwise we only get fights when they forget to scout... Show me the link to a fight where you fought outnumbered I can link you to a gang fight where we engaged with 2v1 odds against us. Everyone can see that you are the guys blobbing and napping everything in sight. Once again....what fight this year were you outnumbered 3v1 please. Or are you, as I suspect...lying Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.14 11:38:00 - [167] Edited by: Tzrailasa on 14/05/2007 11:41:45 Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Tzrailasa The only fights we can get people to commit to are when they outnumber us 3-1. Otherwise we only get fights when they forget to scout... Show me the link to a fight where you fought outnumbered I can link you to a gang fight where we engaged with 2v1 odds against us. Everyone can see that you are the guys blobbing and napping everything in sight. Once again....what fight this year were you outnumbered 3v1 please. Or are you, as I suspect...lying Look for last saturday morning on our KB... numbers roughly 5-1... 'nuff said... Since then, there BEEN no enemy fleets (even though we're sieging 9-9)! Usually (I'm down south btw, not north...), there are NO enemy roaming gangs, NO enemy gate camps, NO enemy fleets. Allmost all 'fights' are boring ganks of NPC'ers... There are always exceptions, but that's the general picture as seen from a Euro timezone pow. US tz is slightly more active... My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.14 12:36:00 - [168] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 14/05/2007 14:46:32 Originally by: Tzrailasa Look for last saturday morning on our KB... numbers roughly 5-1... 'nuff said... Since then, there BEEN no enemy fleets (even though we're sieging 9-9)! So you are saying it has happened once this year Hardly all the time... I doubt you expected me to actually look through you killboards. I have stupidly wasted my time looking at 48 pages of kills going back to May 5th...and can see no evidence of the battle you are talking about. Why don't you get a combat analyzer, with 1 click you can see all related kills and the parties involved.... I can only see small battles on saturday the 12th in the morning, and some skirmish with goons on the 5th. The most significant losses were your own....were you having a tournament or something Or is this how you pad your stats Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Relfstello Pelennor Swarm R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.14 13:25:00 - [169] Originally by: Johana Walker Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Johana Walker The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...). And whose fault is it that they have agreed to this? Surely, you are not blaming BoB or CCP for short-sighted agreements between alliances in the Coalition? So you can harvest a cap ships worth of mods from your complexes how quickly? You should go into politics, I said the coallition can't gather top end mods for a huge dread fleet in a reasonable timeframe, and you turn around with this? Just what kind of spawn rate do you have down in BoB space !?!?! Wait a minute, did I read that right? RA, the masters of the DT plex run, dont have enough time to gather mods??!!!! Oh yeah, they don't have time. They're busy defending their allies (Intrepid Crossing anyone)...oh wait nm, they were in the plex at that time
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.14 15:02:00 - [170] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Tzrailasa Look for last saturday morning on our KB... numbers roughly 5-1... 'nuff said... Since then, there BEEN no enemy fleets (even though we're sieging 9-9)! I can only see small battles on saturday the 12th in the morning, and some skirmish with goons on the 5th. That 'small battles' thing you're talking about in the early hours, was about ~50 of our guys vs. ~300 hostiles. Our guys didn't hide in POS, they didn't log, they didn't run, they didn't dock. They came out again and again, and fought a 5 hour running battle against odds. Of.c. you'll not recognise that, but it's the fact... The main reason I can't find many examples is that for the last 1-2 months, if we're reported anywhere NEAR a system, all hostiles log/run/hide/dock... (yes, that's your allies I'm talking about)... My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.14 15:18:00 - [171] Originally by: Tzrailasa Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Tzrailasa Look for last saturday morning on our KB... numbers roughly 5-1... 'nuff said... Since then, there BEEN no enemy fleets (even though we're sieging 9-9)! I can only see small battles on saturday the 12th in the morning, and some skirmish with goons on the 5th. That 'small battles' thing you're talking about in the early hours, was about ~50 of our guys vs. ~300 hostiles. Our guys didn't hide in POS, they didn't log, they didn't run, they didn't dock. They came out again and again, and fought a 5 hour running battle against odds. Of.c. you'll not recognise that, but it's the fact... The main reason I can't find many examples is that for the last 1-2 months, if we're reported anywhere NEAR a system, all hostiles log/run/hide/dock... (yes, that's your allies I'm talking about)... In 3 months time, do you expect to get more or less fights out of anyone? signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.14 15:19:00 - [172] Originally by: Tzrailasa Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Tzrailasa Look for last saturday morning on our KB... numbers roughly 5-1... 'nuff said... Since then, there BEEN no enemy fleets (even though we're sieging 9-9)! I can only see small battles on saturday the 12th in the morning, and some skirmish with goons on the 5th. That 'small battles' thing you're talking about in the early hours, was about ~50 of our guys vs. ~300 hostiles. Our guys didn't hide in POS, they didn't log, they didn't run, they didn't dock. They came out again and again, and fought a 5 hour running battle against odds. Of.c. you'll not recognise that, but it's the fact... The main reason I can't find many examples is that for the last 1-2 months, if we're reported anywhere NEAR a system, all hostiles log/run/hide/dock... (yes, that's your allies I'm talking about)... I asked you to back up your claim. You told me to look at your killboard. I did...there is NO large engagement at the time you mention. Only large scale kils are from your own Titan killing your support Everybody runs and docks whenever you are within 15 jumps...yeah sure mate Smack me up if you want...just don't lie about fights that didn't happen Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Navdaq Gallente Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.05.14 15:21:00 - [173] Do not stare directly at the superblob. You will go blind. I flush my waste straight to space.
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 15:49:00 - [174] Originally by: Tzrailasa Oh, and FYI. Super-cap numbers are roughly equal on the two sides of the conflict, with the cryalition being ahead on capitals, but you don't hear us moaning... I think the point in case he was trying to make was the taking down of FLA in general. Anytime we had a sizeable fleet and were ready for PvP it seemed as if MC or BoB would come in with the Titan or the 40 caps and just do whatever you guys wanted. You didn't here us complain, we tried and lost. You trying to defend the point was a bit moot by pointing out that the coalition had roughly the same caps. FLA barely had any caps to field, seriously, you guys probably had more moms than we had caps. And we all know how much support FLA received from the majority of the coalition... The point is, anytime you guys saw somewhat of a threat you'd just cyno the "I win" button and call us losers and whiners. I find it kind of ironic that we fielded fleets to fight one of the most renowned forces in Eve and you guys just played the "Well everyone else does it!" card, and just took the easy route. But hey, I suppose fun doesnt matter anymore in Eve so long as you win, right? And people wonder why Eve warfare is in the gutter... __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.14 16:01:00 - [175] Originally by: Tzrailasa Oh, and FYI. Super-cap numbers are roughly equal on the two sides of the conflict Huh?
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.14 16:08:00 - [176] Originally by: Grim Faust You didn't here us complain, we tried and lost. You trying to defend the point was a bit moot by pointing out that the coalition had roughly the same caps. FLA barely had any caps to field, seriously, you guys probably had more moms than we had caps. And we all know how much support FLA received from the majority of the coalition... We did try to warn you guys about this before it kicked off. And let you move your assets out at the end, partly because of it. Your defence was tenacious, and as both sides knew before and during, futile. Your loyalty to others who barely lifted a finger in assistance was both commendable and tragically naive. Good luck with the rebuilding - I'm sure we'll see you back in 0.0 soon. Myn
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 16:29:00 - [177] Originally by: Mynas Atoch We did try to warn you guys about this before it kicked off. And let you move your assets out at the end, partly because of it. Your defence was tenacious, and as both sides knew before and during, futile. Your loyalty to others who barely lifted a finger in assistance was both commendable and tragically naive. Good luck with the rebuilding - I'm sure we'll see you back in 0.0 soon. Myn We know we were warned. We knew we weren't going to win. We didn't stand in Deklein to defend our Allies in vain, we stood to defend our home. I'm pretty sure every FLA pilot knew what was going to happen. But within the ranks of FLA it has never been in our interest to run to save ISK. The super-blob though was unnecessary in my opinion. We all could have had a lot more fun. I only say this too in respect to the fact that I hear BoB constantly clawing at the notion that they're looking for someone to give them a fight. We'd give anyone a fight, it's just that when we bring in our forces and then someone else goes along and just hit's a DD or flies in just as many caps as we have BS/cruisers, the experience pretty much stops there and no one has a good time. If that's the way people want to play it, then fine. It's rather aggrivating though with all these double-talking people playing possum about wanting fights and then being excessive in their ways. Before you know it, the war's over and then everyone's sitting around going; "Well that wasn't fun, we sat around shooting POS' for weeks on end". I honestly feel sorry for the foot soldiers in BoB and the alliance. No, no one really can muster up a force to fight BoB without the server dieing. So what happens? They sit around and shoot POS' in their untouchable fleets and no one in Eve can enjoy that. It's boring, it's crappy, it's the way things are unfolding and it's why so many people are venting on the forums. This war was supposed to be Epic, but instead it's pretty much a failure and it's thanks to CCP's lack of server stability. No pew pew and conflict in the game results in people having to unload that on CAOD. __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.14 16:35:00 - [178] Arguing about whether or not any alliance fights outnumbered or only fights with massively superior odds is a sure fire way to earn you a seat on the short bus to school. There are always plenty of incidents for pretty much every alliance that prove any generalisation to be just that, a generalisation and therefore innaccurate. Blog
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 16:46:00 - [179] Originally by: Blacklight There are always plenty of incidents for pretty much every alliance that prove any generalisation to be just that, a generalisation and therefore innaccurate. What sort of generalization are you talking about that has bearing on what I posted that isn't true? I'm curious to see how it is you see things. And no, I'm not saying that to sound like a smartass, I'm quite honest when I ask. __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.05.14 16:51:00 - [180] Originally by: Blacklight Arguing about whether or not any alliance fights outnumbered or only fights with massively superior odds is a sure fire way to earn you a seat on the short bus to school. There are always plenty of incidents for pretty much every alliance that prove any generalisation to be just that, a generalisation and therefore innaccurate. This has got be some smart PR move ! Why Blacklight's posts are always contrusctive and without the usual bob ignorance? - BH
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.14 17:14:00 - [181] Originally by: Grim Faust Originally by: Blacklight There are always plenty of incidents for pretty much every alliance that prove any generalisation to be just that, a generalisation and therefore innaccurate. What sort of generalization are you talking about that has bearing on what I posted that isn't true? I'm curious to see how it is you see things. And no, I'm not saying that to sound like a smartass, I'm quite honest when I ask. Every alliance has incidents of fighting with superior odds and against the odds. Remember that the people fighting you in FLA space were fighting Coalition forces in the North and not just FLA, this includes D2, Sparta, IRON etc Those gangs you faced were sized to face such opposition should it materialise on the field of battle. For questions about the defence of FLA space you will have to ask Coalition command and ultimately the person leading the campaign for the defence of the North from the Alliance.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.14 17:25:00 - [182] Edited by: Blacklight on 14/05/2007 17:24:05 Originally by: Grim Faust Originally by: Blacklight There are always plenty of incidents for pretty much every alliance that prove any generalisation to be just that, a generalisation and therefore innaccurate. What sort of generalization are you talking about that has bearing on what I posted that isn't true? I'm curious to see how it is you see things. And no, I'm not saying that to sound like a smartass, I'm quite honest when I ask. I was making a point to the two people above yours and Mynas' posts (from my own alliance and D2) happily embarassing themselves whilst arguing the toss over whether BoB fights outnumbered or only when we have superior odds etc.. repeat pointless argument 1000 times... you must have posted whilst I was posting my reply. Blog
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 17:44:00 - [183] Originally by: Hans Roaming Remember that the people fighting you in FLA space were fighting Coalition forces in the North and not just FLA, this includes D2, Sparta, IRON etc Those gangs you faced were sized to face such opposition should it materialise on the field of battle. That's a good cover and it almost works. Almost, because the part that makes it untrue is the posts that exist poking at how FLA was knowingly abandoned in your pilots eyes. I've even seen an MC sig reflecting sattire of Raymen and us being left high and dry. You guys knew you were only fighting FLA/residents and maybe a handful of coalition alliance pilots brave enough that actually weren't in FLA. But it happened no less and it's those sorts of things that make the alliance sound like they have double-standards when they say they want good square fights, but can't find any. It's a huge reflection on how things are when a titan is used, seemingly out of sheer boredom to turn up for a few seconds, wipe out the opposition and then leave. These things all add up and there's a reason why a lot of people talk about it. They may be generalizations, but if they happen consistantly all over to all sorts of alliances, how can they be untrue? The only thing the alliance can do in such a case is wipe out all the opposition that complains about it. That doesn't make them right though, it only proves that they can use force when reason fails. We had fun out there in Deklein when things were kept square. That is afterall what the games is supposed to be about. But when the "I win" buttons were brought in, who had fun then? I doubt anyone did and I'm sure even your own pilots sitting shooting POS' for god knows how many hours, unhindered, can agree with me. __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
Ice Breaker Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.14 17:53:00 - [184] Edited by: Ice Breaker on 14/05/2007 18:03:38 Originally by: Grim Faust Almost, because the part that makes it untrue is the posts that exist poking at how FLA was knowingly abandoned in your pilots eyes. There's always a chance the enemy will let a false sense of security grow within your ranks and the command, and drop something painful on your fleets/caps/whatever when you bring an "even" fleet. This is why even if in retrospect the odds you faced at some point don't look "fair", they could have been seen differently when the past decisions were made. Edit: The point I'm trying to make is that you bring to a fight what you think you'll need, given what the enemy could bring, not "what was needed given what he had"... Ice. In Rust We Trust
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 18:01:00 - [185] Originally by: Ice Breaker This is why even if in retrospect the odds you faced at some point don't look "fair", they could have been seen differently when the past decisions were made. Ice. Didn't look "fair" is a large understatement. At any rate, some of the battles in Deklein were great and demonstrated how Eve should be. At other times they were lacking hugely in character from the eyes on the other side of the fence. I guess I'll end this with the obligatory. "You haven't seen the last of us" (Unless of course you guys intend to protect ESA indeffinitely. ) __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
dastommy79 Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 19:57:00 - [186] I understand what the MC pilots are trying to say about justifying the superblob against FLA. During that weekend that D2 was kicking everyones ass up in Fade, MC/YouWhat sieged a FLA pos coming out of reinforcement. We tackled an MC dread that was stuck in siege mode while a D2 member yelled "open the f*cking Cyno" in local. The dread didnt have a chance and the rest of their fleet jumped out. After that weekend, BOB titans started showing up and more and more "pets" arrived in the north to out blob the D2 forces. They deserve credit for being able to put it together but 99.9% of the time against FLA, it was truly unnecesary. Also i would like to take the time to say thanks to The Sundering, Sparta and the foundation for regulary coming to our aid in O-2. Razor and IRON had some fun with ESA in 3jn with us too :) Superblobs arnt fun for any side but when they play to win, they will use what ever advantages they can. http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg
MaxSkywalker x13 Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:26:00 - [187] Join the dark side!! - I live of government cheese!
Johana Walker Lonestar Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:40:00 - [188] Originally by: MaxSkywalker Join the dark side!! Until they come for you.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:51:00 - [189] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 14/05/2007 20:50:37 Originally by: Blacklight I was making a point to the two people above yours and Mynas' posts (from my own alliance and D2) happily embarassing themselves whilst arguing the toss over whether BoB fights outnumbered or only when we have superior odds etc.. repeat pointless argument 1000 times... you must have posted whilst I was posting my reply. I completely agree that it is a pointless argument about who fights outnumbered etc. However, I could link you quickly fights where D2 have fought outnumbered, not vague anecdotes, and words of "look it up" The only times we have fought a BOB fleet in this war, YOU outnumbered us. So don't give me this, 3-1, no 5-1 , no it was 6-1 rubbish I don't think I embarrassed myself by pointing out that your grunt was not telling the truth Your ships are like everyone else's. They pop when they take too much damage, and they produce a killmail, so we can see your set ups. 6v1 odds and you win ...tell your foot-soldier to take a reality check Edit: Since we were accused of running all the time, I should say something like...where was the MC superblob tonight? Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one
Kenneys RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:56:00 - [190] High risk of death, small chance of success.. what are we waiting for? That would be a nice game to play.
Corphus ShaK Scientific	Posted - 2007.05.15 19:49:00 - [191] Edited by: Corphus on 15/05/2007 19:48:55 Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Corphus something i walways wanted to know is the base hirng price for an "bring my enemy the apocalypse" service with the duration of a month? A region or two of space ? No seriously, stop whining at the MC for taking a contract. Stop whining that they need to be absolutely spotless and completely neutral. They don't. They don't need you, you need them. firstly somehow i miss the point where the quoted sentence can be interpreted as a whine. i was stating my point of view and why i think the coalition wouldnt try to hire the mc. secondly the question was asked not to u but to seleene. i rellay wonder if there is somekind of contractbaseprice or if they just work on occasion for special rewards. i dont argue with you for taking a side in a conflict which does not interest me at all, im not even taking a side or take part in it. i didnt even know that mc took a contract from bob until u mentioned it. i always thought that mc was fighting off coalition forces since they attacked their capital yards some months ago. i was asking just out of curiosity. u however feel urself endangered by random posts from ppl like me. dont be an ass mate noone's trying to insult u here.
crice Caldari CRICE Corporation Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.15 21:30:00 - [192] Edited by: crice on 15/05/2007 21:29:06 All these posts are so amazing, I feel enlightened by all this. Do you GOONS remember JV1V? Eh? Did you see LV crying on the forums about losing a battle we didn't have the chance to fight? Eh? Seriously think about what you post. We didn't even have a chance to WIN that fight, which I fully believe we would have. So talk about Blob's? Are you serious? You guys had the biggest Blob Node crash in my 4 years of being in the game. I had to log in another account in Detroid to listen to what was happening. You would have lost that battle and losing now was destiny, RA destruction is always going to happen in time. I would have chosen quality over quantity any day. Again... Please keep them new subscriptions coming, because it gives more targets more stuff to read and plenty of t1 junk to blow up. see ya in space, crice and yes I am whining now... but but but
Bashiri Caldari Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.15 21:42:00 - [193] Originally by: dastommy79 I understand what the MC pilots are trying to say about justifying the superblob against FLA. During that weekend that D2 was kicking everyones ass up in Fade, MC/YouWhat sieged a FLA pos coming out of reinforcement. We tackled an MC dread that was stuck in siege mode while a D2 member yelled "open the f*cking Cyno" in local. The dread didnt have a chance and the rest of their fleet jumped out. After that weekend, BOB titans started showing up and more and more "pets" arrived in the north to out blob the D2 forces. They deserve credit for being able to put it together but 99.9% of the time against FLA, it was truly unnecesary. Also i would like to take the time to say thanks to The Sundering, Sparta and the foundation for regulary coming to our aid in O-2. Razor and IRON had some fun with ESA in 3jn with us too :) Superblobs arnt fun for any side but when they play to win, they will use what ever advantages they can. Are you not part of the coallition that has a blob them selfs? It's only because they went to there home systems to defend and you got the blob. When it's there turn you will see post about it also. The coallition could of won this war against bob and it's allies if they worked together, but then again bob is one good pvp force and wouldn't go down easy. As for superblob I cant say I like them,but if I put in a few years for a capital ship and i have the isk to buy them I will use them to support my corp/alliance by all means. Titans I think should be nerf down seen they can hit and run. For a capital ship to do that and lay waste to a fleet ready to defend them selfs is just wrong, but who I'm I to complain about these things I'm sure CCP will make changes to this with all the players giving advise to how they should be put to make everyone happy(which will never happen) this will be fixed.
nico wurz250 The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.15 21:47:00 - [194] who cares? the only way to control a game is? - Support your local D2 member!
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.15 22:08:00 - [195] Originally by: Bashiri Are you not part of the coallition that has a blob them selfs? It's only because they went to there home systems to defend and you got the blob. When it's there turn you will see post about it also. The coallition could of won this war against bob and it's allies if they worked together, but then again bob is one good pvp force and wouldn't go down easy. This is the part that you'd think would be prudent to point out. Yeah, we are in the coalition, however the amount of times we were cap-blobbed by the enemy far out-weighed the times we actually received cap support from within the coalition. Actually, I think we received it once, maybe twice. Beyond that, we really had no cap fleet since the money we had saved was stolen right before the war started. To be honest, I don't really care about receiving cap support though. That's not the coalitions real problem. I think our alliance did fine without the majority of the coalitions cap help. Though I hope it serves as a warning towards the real problem to the rest of the coalition, if you don't start to act like you're on the same team you're soon going to find you don't have anything left to defend. The Alliance is playing it smart, sorry if I'm pointing out the excellence of a plan, but they're removing the links in the chain one by one and they're doing it relentlessly. They aren't all over doing their own thing, they're in one spot and working together until that spot falls. Focus fire on a more grandeur scale. If coalition forces started to mob up and take out the alliances space holders as such, the war would get interesting. It started like that with the dismantling of LV in a very quick manner, and then all of the sudden everything just stopped. For whatever reason, it doesn't matter, what does matter though is that mob that worked together so destructively has now become the prey because everyone that was in it is split up and is trying to pretend like nothing ever happened. Of course this is only my opinion from my perspective. I'm sure lots is actually happening, but we'll see in a few months time exactly how effective it is. __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.05.15 23:35:00 - [196] There should be a powerblob powerballad sung by Joe*****er and Jennifer Warnes. Powerblobs blob us up where we belong Where the eagles get instapopped, in a game where the devs are high Powerblobs lift us up where we belong Far from the game we know Up where pvp blows goat ----------------- OMG! SiGnAtUrE gO mEnTaLz
Eskalin Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 00:38:00 - [197] Originally by: Takahashi Arran this is the fundamental difference between the coalition and the alliance. Logistics. in a straight up fight with everyone on the same vent/TS, in the same lag free system thee coalition would wipe the floor with the alliance every time. But until that happens i expect them to continue to loose space i have to ask, are you playing the same game as the rest of us? Originally by: MrTripps combat in Jita is as slow and ugly as watching senior citizens copulate.
dastommy79 Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.16 00:40:00 - [198] Originally by: Bashiri Originally by: dastommy79 I understand what the MC pilots are trying to say about justifying the superblob against FLA. During that weekend that D2 was kicking everyones ass up in Fade, MC/YouWhat sieged a FLA pos coming out of reinforcement. We tackled an MC dread that was stuck in siege mode while a D2 member yelled "open the f*cking Cyno" in local. The dread didnt have a chance and the rest of their fleet jumped out. After that weekend, BOB titans started showing up and more and more "pets" arrived in the north to out blob the D2 forces. They deserve credit for being able to put it together but 99.9% of the time against FLA, it was truly unnecesary. Also i would like to take the time to say thanks to The Sundering, Sparta and the foundation for regulary coming to our aid in O-2. Razor and IRON had some fun with ESA in 3jn with us too :) Superblobs arnt fun for any side but when they play to win, they will use what ever advantages they can. Are you not part of the coallition that has a blob them selfs? It's only because they went to there home systems to defend and you got the blob. When it's there turn you will see post about it also. The coallition could of won this war against bob and it's allies if they worked together, but then again bob is one good pvp force and wouldn't go down easy. As for superblob I cant say I like them,but if I put in a few years for a capital ship and i have the isk to buy them I will use them to support my corp/alliance by all means. Titans I think should be nerf down seen they can hit and run. For a capital ship to do that and lay waste to a fleet ready to defend them selfs is just wrong, but who I'm I to complain about these things I'm sure CCP will make changes to this with all the players giving advise to how they should be put to make everyone happy(which will never happen) this will be fixed. AHHH i think i didnt word my post very well. I was talking about an instance where FLA was reinforced by D2's capital fleet in the defence of the Motel. A very large blob of D2 cap ships (was an awesome sight). So my point is that both sides blob each other, we are all guilty. As for D2's "lack of assistance" to the FLA defence, D2 was busy trying to save Fade as we were fending off the hostiles in Dek. When D2 had the numbers and ability to assist, they did. Could they have done it more, sure. Whatever the motel fell and i had the funnest time in my eve career during its defence. I agree with you that titans need a bit of a nerf but thats up to ccp. http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg
Kvarium Ki legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.16 04:57:00 - [199] BoB has managed to recruit a very high percentage of the highly skilled players in the game (altho the new influx of recruits over the recent months are lacking the forum warrior 5 skill that the community are accustomed to) and at the same time build what seems to be a very strong T2 production line. It is the ability to fit T2 ships all the time that really sets BoB apart in my opinion more so then player skill. You (BoB) have to understand that the coalition must make up for lack of skill and elite equipment with numbers, what else can they do short of spending the next 2 years setting up an extensive POS network (that you will destroy anyway)? If you are honest and lets put the roleplaying aside for a minute here and remember that this is a game, you can't possibly expect 1v1 fights with the exception perhaps of capital ship combat. KK.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 08:47:00 - [200] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: Blacklight Arguing about whether or not any alliance fights outnumbered or only fights with massively superior odds is a sure fire way to earn you a seat on the short bus to school. There are always plenty of incidents for pretty much every alliance that prove any generalisation to be just that, a generalisation and therefore innaccurate. This has got be some smart PR move ! Why Blacklight's posts are always contrusctive and without the usual bob ignorance? Thats why he is Zee Boss u noob , duuuh Btw do not mix ignorance with arrogance or the usual chest beating, as it was explained b4 chest beating or what ever ppl call it is done by every entity on this forum once they press the create new thread . Even a battle report no matter how the person who makes it tries to be subjective you will always find soem bitter elements or fanbois who try and twist stuff and turn it to a smack fest. Easiest way to ruin an argument or an announcment is to turn it to a mud slingign contest where ppl ignore any other issue and focus on he said she said etc.
Indiano Arko Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.16 09:42:00 - [201] Originally by: dastommy79 I understand what the MC pilots are trying to say about justifying the superblob against FLA. Just to clarify: the "superblobs" have a place in this War not because someone want to overkill someone, but for the purpose to reach the victory with as less fight as possible in a shortest terms. "The best victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities...It is best to win without fighting." Sun-tzu (~400 BC), The Art of War. Planning a Siege P.S. It's only my POV.
DeadDuck Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.16 09:52:00 - [202] Well yesterday the Alliance made a impressive show of force. At the same time BOB Capital fleet was engaging RAGoon Capital Fleet, from what I read, 50 BOB Caps + 3/4 Titans, about 100 Caps were attacking in the North. Impressive I must say that again.

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