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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.13 13:34:00 -
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'Buzzard' Class Covert Ops: HMS Mirage
Undisclosed Location - deep space
The Bashar began to relax in his pod. The cloak was running at full efficiency and the crew had been ordered to get some rest in rotation. After nearly 24hrs of constant activity the crew were, like much of the fleet, asleep on their feet.
The Bashar reflected on the past 24hrs.... They'd done an amazing thing. Whilst the slavers slept soundly in the belief that they were safe, the Ushra'Khan fleet with strong allied support had been able to strike a great blow against an enemy firmly believing themselves to be above attack.
He knew that in the coming days the enemy would undoubtably attempt to spin the loss as a victory on the galnet boards. If you're losing or have lost a fight it doesn't do well to let everyone see that you've just been kicked in the nuts afterall. True, it would have been better to have killed it when it was building the most recent mothership but depriving CVA and IAC of a secure base to build further monsterous Super Capitals when facing 2:1 odds against was a Ushra'Khan victory no matter how much spin they might try.
He thought back over the fight, analysing it for any possible changes to make in future engagements. Deploying the tower had been an afterthought and as soon as it had become apparant that the enemy were finally willing to engage with 4:1 odds in their favour, U'K had decided to go. The Bashar chuckled briefly whilst considering how for a race of people believing themselves to be so superior, they seemed awfully scared of fighting on a level playing field.
The withdrawl had been scrappy for sure, he began wording a memo to the troops to apologise for that. It seemed like a control malfunction had lead to the majority of the fleet being warped to a random belt location rather than them having been able to take combat positions up around the gate in x6. He remembered W9-DID and the last time they'd used this manouver to catch and anhillate an IAC fleet.
As he began to drift to sleep The Bashar started to close the comms channels down, thanks was due to the stirling work of all allied forces and he just hoped they realised that this operation was as much a victory for them as for Ushra'Khan. The amount of anger that CVA appeared to have reaped no only for their slaver ways but their alliances with the likes of IAC never ceased to amaze him.
With his last waking thoughts he quickly typed a memo to the troops, 'Victory for the Minmatar! We came like a storm on the wind and we crushed what most would have considered a superior force. They watched on as we killed a prized industrial facility afraid to leave their shields. Even with irregularities in the withdrawl they killed minimal ships and far too little to offset their losses in the earlier decimation. We are Ushra'Khan! We come for our people! We will fight all those that enslave our people and we will scatter them into the void. You have fought well today and you do yourselves honour.'
The Bashar saluted as he ended the comms message and then slowly drifted into sleep.
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Sapphrine
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Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.13 16:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: Eddie Gordo
A foothold in x-r was always secondary to killing the capital shipyard. Obviously this is not a total victory, but to claim we were somehow defeated is pure folly.
And where did I claim that? Reread my post. This is the second time in the last few days where you seem to have either misread or deliberately misrepresented what we are saying.
Fact is your allies claim that the Capital POS was your target all along - yet you start your original post stating that you had changed objectives. An interesting inconsistency but lets accept the claim at face value. You destroyed a Capital POS and achieved an 'objective' - well done!
From the Amarrian perspective our objective was to defend the system. That was achieved.
So from what I can tell both sides had their own little 'victory'.
When we put the ship yard into reinforced it was meant to be a quick strike and out before you responded... when you utterly failed to do anything about it we thought we'd knock the rest into reinforced to boot.
When you show up to defend with twice our numbers we decide it would be a shame to get all dressed up and not have a bit of a fight. Dreads pilots got out of their dreads, into BS and along we come.
We show up expecting to have a good scrap and see what happens. Yes we had a plan and it sucks for you that you didn't notice outbreak sneak around the back and smack you about.
We actually win that fight and are not counter attacked whilst shooting your cap ship yard with BS. We decide to see about grabbing some dreads. Few people swap out and a couple more pilots are found. We drop in some cap ships and smack down the cap ship yard.
We're still outnumbered 2-1 and you're all sitting pos'd up. We decide to stick up a tower and see if we can keep a foothold. Outbreak leave and with 4-1 odds you finally get enough of a majority to think about fighting. I decided that losing an onlining tower is preferable to fighting when out of position so try to pull us back to a gate and get you to jump to us. We had a screw up on gang warp and decision is made that we might as well scatter and we move into skirmish mode. You cause minimal casualties.
Bottom line: We kicked you in the nuts. Quit trying to make out some kind of victory that you managed to save the other two POS when you should have been able to save your ship yard as well with the numbers you had.
p.s. Good fight Zarniewoop. CVA could do well to learn from Huzzah's attitude to fighting.
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Posted - 2007.05.13 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Abn Matar
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
mommy IAC
Bitter much?
CVA i'll take a bit of flak from, they at least know how to fight. How many cap ships did you lose today again? Just as well you guys weren't meant to be helping CVA tonight... god only knows what you'd have been able to send the way you seem to be getting pasted.
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Sapphrine
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Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.14 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Sapphrine
Originally by: Abn Matar
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
mommy IAC
Bitter much?
CVA i'll take a bit of flak from, they at least know how to fight. How many cap ships did you lose today again? Just as well you guys weren't meant to be helping CVA tonight... god only knows what you'd have been able to send the way you seem to be getting pasted.
We lost 5 and went to help CVA afterwards with a gang of 60, but as it turned out they didn't need any help.
I guess U'K are completely incapable of accomplishing anything without daddy 0utbreak there holding your hand?
I do hope you think more tactically about your other fights. What possible reason would we have to attack another pos after leaving the other two yesterday? Hit and fade tyrrax, hit and fade. As I actually stated in this thread hours ago, we hit the other pos as a bonus.
Goodluck in your war with BoB. I hope you're paying KIA alot to go head to head with Outbreak. I just wish EveTV was starting now :)
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Posted - 2007.05.14 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
I was under the mistaken impression the war between CVA and Ushra'Khan was over ideals. This leads me to question why the mighty servants of the Amarr Empire, whom I've fought with before, are asking for aid from the likes of IAC against a numerically inferior force. It also makes me wonder why the Ushra'Khan waste time targetting some production facilities, when you should be aiming for their pride & willpower.
And surely, the involvement of so many outsiders dilutes the victory. How can you possibly instill fear in one another? How do you propose to inspire members, when your backbone is on mail order? Things were a lot better when the Amarr had an Emperor, and the Minmatar were unloved. At this rate I'm not sure what to think, when all I see is another faceless sovereignty war. You might as well merge and form a Providence superpower, since that is all you want.
I'd say you are right to say it is over ideals but somewhat wrong in your assumption that attacking the CVA shipyard was about territory. We attacked a Capital Ship yard, in their home system, when the week before they'd launched an all out assault on our home system... For an enemy that CVA have considered severely weakened after QR- I think that was fairly clear cut a morale hit on CVA. I'm sure the fact that on top of a CVA offensive being utterly derailed, CVA cap ships actually dying in combat to U'K and friends, the way that we managed to actually threaten a systems soverignty and killed their shipyard has got to start to raise a couple doubts in CVA's rank and file.
I feel you really don't understand this conflict if you honestly think this is all about territory. I have no doubt that if we were ever able to knock the CVA back to empire, they would regroup, bide their time and then launch a counter offensive on us. It is afterall what i'd do if they ever did it to us. CVA will never have an easy time of it in providence or anywhere, thats the fun of this war :)
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Posted - 2007.05.15 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: Sapphrine on 15/05/2007 01:36:51
I have a quick question for CVA raised by a couple comments made here by NOS. Is it actually right that you guys took QR- in retaliation for us hitting NOS or was it actually because you guys were interested in attacking QR- and saw an opportunity. I only ask because i object somewhat to the way NOS seem to be portraying QR- as retaliation for QBL.
Also, I hardly feel errecting a Large tower to deploy cap ships from is POS spamming. Correct me if i'm wrong but two at any given time hardly counts as a spam :)
As for sticking a tower up in X-R3.... well we were amazed you hadn't defended the pos so sticking a tower up seemed only appropriate. It was hardly important as demonstrated by the utter lack of hanging around to defend it. It is true it wasn't the exact tower that CVA had lost to us taking from their space earlier this week but it was certainly replaced by it.
(edited so it actually made some sense!)
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