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Zodiack
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:41:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: I am just stating what everyone is thiking... I just have the B a l l s to say it...
Evading the word filter.
Of course I was... I didn't want you to think I was saying Cake... or Care...
I definately wanted you to know exactly what I was saying.
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 05/01/2004 16:43:34 On the subject of the changing of the title, etc: Maybe this is why Hobbes is Aurora, and Orestes is forums? Because, you know, we could actually be lucky to have Orestes as a mod ( ). The only reason Hobbes had to come to the forums at all and felt the need to mod a thread was because someone of his section took a rather serious and publicly damaging accusation with no apparant proof provided (when an evemail to a GM for example could have sufficed). _______________________________________________________________________
IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. |

Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:42:00 -
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What are the odds that the next time there's an event in Empire space someone from the CA comes onto these forums and asks why they never get anything interesting happen in their space?
There are 10 sorts of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who do not. |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:44:00 -
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Quote: It seems that by playing this silly game of locking topics, you only make it look more like you are not mature enough to handle authority. I don't doubt that the volunteer had nothing to do with any spying, but your behavior is surprising in response.
It's also dictated by CCP. Polaris don't lock and delete topics because they want stuff kept quiet; they do it because CCP rules dictate that certain topics are not to be discussed here.
They don't even get paid for taking all this abuse, so we ought to be grateful someone's selfless enough to do it. I've been recommended for Polaris and I wouldn't touch it with a 10-AU pole.
_______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age." |

NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:46:00 -
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Quote: What are the odds that the next time there's an event in Empire space someone from the CA comes onto these forums and asks why they never get anything interesting happen in their space?

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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:47:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 05/01/2004 16:43:34 On the subject of the changing of the title, etc: Maybe this is why Hobbes is Aurora, and Orestes is forums? Because, you know, we could actually be lucky to have Orestes as a mod ( ). The only reason Hobbes had to come to the forums at all and felt the need to mod a thread was because someone of his section took a rather serious and publicly damaging accusation with no apparant proof provided (when an evemail to a GM for example could have sufficed).
which has nothing to do with my original and now conveniently-locked thread about how *changing the title of the post and silently editing its content is unprofessional and should not have happened*. What part of that is so hard to understand?
Changing the title was downright childish.
Thread locked, deleted, commented in - this happens all the time.
This thread was singled out for "special" treatment by someone who should've known better. As for looking bad? Guaranteed that much at least. Nothing makes it look like there's something to hide more than hiding stuff.
I mean come on, are you really going to tell me you don't see the issue with someone altering one of your posts without an 'edited' tag, so it looks like YOU posted something you didn't? And the title change was just ridiculous. Is this a counter-strike forum? Come ON.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:50:00 -
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fr33 t3h cAKe!!!
doWN witH pI3s!!! Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:50:00 -
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Quote: It seems that by playing this silly game of locking topics, you only make it look more like you are not mature enough to handle authority. I don't doubt that the volunteer had nothing to do with any spying, but your behavior is surprising in response.
It's no game, it's the rules of this forum, set by the forum moderators. --- Lead Event Producer Hobbes The Aurora Project |

Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:53:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 05/01/2004 16:43:34 On the subject of the changing of the title, etc: Maybe this is why Hobbes is Aurora, and Orestes is forums? Because, you know, we could actually be lucky to have Orestes as a mod ( ). The only reason Hobbes had to come to the forums at all and felt the need to mod a thread was because someone of his section took a rather serious and publicly damaging accusation with no apparant proof provided (when an evemail to a GM for example could have sufficed).
which has nothing to do with my original and now conveniently-locked thread about how *changing the title of the post and silently editing its content is unprofessional and should not have happened*. What part of that is so hard to understand?
Changing the title was downright childish.
Thread locked, deleted, commented in - this happens all the time.
This thread was singled out for "special" treatment by someone who should've known better. As for looking bad? Guaranteed that much at least. Nothing makes it look like there's something to hide more than hiding stuff.
I mean come on, are you really going to tell me you don't see the issue with someone altering one of your posts without an 'edited' tag, so it looks like YOU posted something you didn't? And the title change was just ridiculous. Is this a counter-strike forum? Come ON.
Again: Hobbes doesn't seem particularly restrained when it comes to modding forums. That's probably because he's not a PR person. (This on the title change etc)
As for Aurora hiding stuff: I wonder why.
One stop there please. It doesn't look like you've posted it when it's so heavily modded. _______________________________________________________________________
IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. |

Hardin
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:53:00 -
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I mean come on, are you really going to tell me you don't see the issue with someone altering one of your posts without an 'edited' tag, so it looks like YOU posted something you didn't? And the title change was just ridiculous. Is this a counter-strike forum? Come ON.
Completely agree with you BH - A complete abuse and unprofessional - but I wont say more in case I get banned again 
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:53:00 -
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Quote: It seems that by playing this silly game of locking topics, you only make it look more like you are not mature enough to handle authority. I don't doubt that the volunteer had nothing to do with any spying, but your behavior is surprising in response.
It's no game, it's the rules of this forum, set by the forum moderators.
Accept the wisdom of Jack Nicholson:
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This town needs an enema!

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:53:00 -
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Quote: What are the odds that the next time there's an event in Empire space someone from the CA comes onto these forums and asks why they never get anything interesting happen in their space?
It shouldnt matter, because we are all paying customers and deserve equal treatment do we not?
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Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:55:00 -
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Quote: Maybe this is why Hobbes is Aurora, and Orestes is forums? Because, you know, we could actually be lucky to have Orestes as a mod ( ).
Compliment taken. Thanks.  --- Lead Event Producer Hobbes The Aurora Project |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:56:00 -
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Quote: I mean come on, are you really going to tell me you don't see the issue with someone altering one of your posts without an 'edited' tag, so it looks like YOU posted something you didn't?
I only see one issue here; that being, this board belongs to CCP and not you, and they can do whatever they darn well feel like. If you object to the way they moderate it, feel free to use some other board instead of this one.
_______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age." |

Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2004.01.05 16:58:00 -
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Quote: Changing the title was downright childish.
The original title was offensive, and overly sensational. Changing the title was being responsible. --- Lead Event Producer Hobbes The Aurora Project |

Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2004.01.05 17:00:00 -
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Quote: It shouldnt matter, because we are all paying customers and deserve equal treatment do we not?
Sure, and every one is treated equally.
*Any* player that chooses to abuse us will find themselves passed over. That's equality.
We volunteer. That doesn't mean we have to take that treatment. --- Lead Event Producer Hobbes The Aurora Project |

Riana Tabost
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Posted - 2004.01.05 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: Riana Tabost on 05/01/2004 17:03:30
Quote: ...That doesn't mean we have to take that treatment.
I don't believe Polaris is being 'treated'. __________________________________________________________________________ May I recommend a Cybernetic Subprocessor?.. That's an intelligence implant, sweetheart.
Ideas Lab - Reprocessing |

The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.01.05 17:03:00 -
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Pass me over, I could care less actually. But, does that mean passing over one whole block of players as been suggested? IS that fair?
P.S., I'd like bookmarks to some mining spots. I'd also like a real reply, not a likt to event rules. Thats just plain insulting. Especially since I was directed to send an email there.
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GFLTorque
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Posted - 2004.01.05 17:33:00 -
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Would any of you like some cheese with your whine?
SA knows where CA mines, CA knows where we mine to be sure. I would assume Evol would also know.
Does CA have something to hide that would require them to NOT want a Polaris member or GM nearby?
But wait, I guess that means the Polaris I've seen in Amarr, must be scouting it too for hmmm lets see - The __________ Corporations (you fill in the blank) war with The ____________ (you fill this one in too).
But wait, I dont want to make you guys not feel speciiiiiiiiiialllll (church lady voice).
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.05 17:46:00 -
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Quote: Maybe this is why Hobbes is Aurora, and Orestes is forums? Because, you know, we could actually be lucky to have Orestes as a mod ( ).
Compliment taken. Thanks. 
I've always thought we were lucky to have Orestes as a mod, actually.
So, this volunteer from another group entirely makes some poor decisions in someone else's area, and he takes it as a compliment, and that's a good sign?
I think not.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.05 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 05/01/2004 17:57:04
Quote: Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 05/01/2004 17:50:44
Quote: P.S., I'd like bookmarks to some mining spots.
I have a bookmark for you. This one will help you find your head, so you can pull it out of your sphincter.
Apparently "offensive" posts only get changed when ccp doesn't find them amnusing, or something? This guy's done nothing but troll and spew bile across every thread. He hasn't added a single damn thing to the conversation; hasn't even posted a decent rant. Just these 6-year-old insults.
Since everyone gets treated equally, can Eris come down and orange-out all his posts now?
But hey, congrats once more to the CCP PR machine! After IGN (?) rekindled my interest in the game, you've managed to sour me on the whole thing again in less than a week. wtg gg! Make sure to keep putting us in our place and letting the kiddies troll all over us, that'll show us 
Editted for n0rty typos? - Jash Illian
Sorry, BH, I couldn't resist. 
Seriously tho, enough of a racket has been caused prolly to have them rewriting policy for a week now. I like wielding sledgehammers too, as evident from some of my posts.
I think the message prolly came across 5x5 by now, no?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Yrma
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Posted - 2004.01.05 18:02:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Maybe this is why Hobbes is Aurora, and Orestes is forums? Because, you know, we could actually be lucky to have Orestes as a mod ( ).
Compliment taken. Thanks. 
I think it wasnt a complement, I think it was something totally different indeed but since english is not my native language I may have misunderstood it.
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Scragg
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Posted - 2004.01.05 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Scragg on 05/01/2004 18:08:49 Hobbes,
I was just wondering if Polaris event staff ever assists the GM's and developers during the investigations of cheat/exploit petitions.
Perhaps there was an entirely legitimate reason for one of CCP's volunteer staff being in "CA" space in the area of a "CA" mining operation.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |

Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.05 18:11:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Scragg on 05/01/2004 18:08:49 Hobbes,
I was just wondering if Polaris event staff ever assists the GM's and developers during the investigations of cheat/exploit petitions.
Perhaps there was an entirely legitimate reason for one of CCP's volunteer staff being in "CA" space in the area of a "CA" mining operation.
ROOFLES GOOD ONE, SO THAT WOULD MAKE EVERYTHING HOBBES SAID A LIE, WOW U ARE TOO GOOD SCRAGG HONSETLY! WOW KTXHBTE!
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |

Zaridin
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Posted - 2004.01.05 18:17:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Scragg on 05/01/2004 18:08:49 Hobbes,
I was just wondering if Polaris event staff ever assists the GM's and developers during the investigations of cheat/exploit petitions.
Actually it's interesting who posted replies to this thread though isnt it? Grid Exploit |

Scragg
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Posted - 2004.01.05 18:27:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Scragg on 05/01/2004 18:08:49 Hobbes,
I was just wondering if Polaris event staff ever assists the GM's and developers during the investigations of cheat/exploit petitions.
Perhaps there was an entirely legitimate reason for one of CCP's volunteer staff being in "CA" space in the area of a "CA" mining operation.
ROOFLES GOOD ONE, SO THAT WOULD MAKE EVERYTHING HOBBES SAID A LIE, WOW U ARE TOO GOOD SCRAGG HONSETLY! WOW KTXHBTE!
I don't quite follow your logic.... dare I use the word. I was simply wondering about an alternative explanation to the eveningÆs events.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |

Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2004.01.05 18:30:00 -
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Quote: So, this volunteer from another group entirely makes some poor decisions in someone else's area, and he takes it as a compliment, and that's a good sign?
I believe he was saying that I would be a harsher mod than average, and I take that as a compliment. --- Lead Event Producer Hobbes The Aurora Project |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.05 19:02:00 -
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Quote: Hobbes:
I did not read the original post pre edited, I dont realy care what the truth of the matter is HOWEVER:
1: Altering a posts title is a bad idea. If the title is offending remove it and inform that ythat has been done.
2: Altering contents of a post is also a very bad idea but altering a posted log is right out...
Who owns this board? Is it Fester Addams? Why, no, surprisingly enough it isn't. Is it CCP? Yes, I do believe it is.
Nobody cares a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys what rules YOU think ought to apply here. If CCP/devs/gms/polaris want to do something, they can and they will, and what you or I might think of it is worth considerably less than the average lifespan of a moth in the middle of a supernova.
_______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age." |

Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2004.01.05 19:02:00 -
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Quote: I was just wondering if Polaris event staff ever assists the GM's and developers during the investigations of cheat/exploit petitions.
We do our own independant investigations. Anything else could be conflict of interest.
Quote: Perhaps there was an entirely legitimate reason for one of CCP's volunteer staff being in "CA" space in the area of a "CA" mining operation.
Because "CA" people (amongst other alliances) have asked us for events outside of empire space. Mining operations in 0.0 take big manpower. So, those locations rank up there on the map of 'players in space'. --- Lead Event Producer Hobbes The Aurora Project |

Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.01.05 19:11:00 -
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Baldour Ngarr:
If CCP and Polaris is smart they do care what I think, they also care what you think and what random person x thinks.
What I posted has to do with their credibility.
If you alter posts without notifying that you do in some posts how can we the paying customers know that they dont do it often?
Like I posted, I dont care what the truth of the matter is, what I care about is that it gives polaris a bad reputation.
Poilaris needs to be above suspition, you do not become that by doing things such as altering posts made by players.
If you read my post you will see that I dont say they should not remove offensive stuff, I say that they should not alter posts and not inform that they have done so.
Lastly then, maby it is true that what you think of it "...is worth considerably less than the average lifespan of a moth in the middle of a supernova." but I hope that is not true because if it is then this game is already dead in the ether.
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