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Jinhai Storm
Gallente
The Celestial Free Miner's
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Posted - 2007.05.14 01:47:00 -
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This might just be a problem I'm having, but has anyone noticed their Ogre drones acting off their own will and ignoring player commands? Every 1 in 3 times I use them, they won't attack the target I order and instead seem to be going for a random target.
I say SEEM to be going for a random target but I'm starting to see a possible pattern to their behaviour, they seem to be going for the ship that's inflicted the highest damage on me as they prioritize on cruisers that have been bombarding me for a while over a newly spawned battleship until the battleship has been firing at me for a couple of minutes, then when they seek a new target, they'll go after the battleship.
I've been using Berserkers as well and I haven't noticed this behaviour. Has anyone else noticed this with their drones and can they post some feedback about it please so we can see if we can work out the cause and what drones it's happening with.
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Cairo dog
Gallente
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.14 01:48:00 -
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The revolution continues!
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Aldir Rundal
Gallente
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2007.05.14 01:51:00 -
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In Soviet Russia, Drone Controls you.
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Cairo dog
Gallente
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.14 01:54:00 -
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Good thing I don't live there then.
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Pattern Clarc
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2007.05.14 01:56:00 -
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you have a case of rogue drones sir.
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Matalino
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.14 02:17:00 -
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Why do you think that your agent keeps asking you to kill his drones.
I think that drone AI was mentioned in the first live dev blog, but it didn't sound like it was going to be fixed as soon as we would like = ie not in the first rev 2 patch. Atleast it is on the radar.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2007.05.14 02:53:00 -
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Instead of whining for a nerf to drone AI, ask for a buff. If we're lucky, we could get Bolos with thrusters, preferably a Mark XX or better.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.05.14 02:53:00 -
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"Destroy the humans!"
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Mike Atropos
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Posted - 2007.05.14 02:59:00 -
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You've been giving them natural oil, haven't you?
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Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar
White-Noise
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Posted - 2007.05.14 03:09:00 -
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Edited by: Savesti Kyrsst on 14/05/2007 03:09:35
 Originally by: Mike Atropos
You've been giving them natural oil, haven't you?
IBDS 
Oh, and seriously, you're quite right about all that, drones have been buggy that way for ages. There are loads of other forum threads on it hiding somewhere too.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.14 10:36:00 -
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I was trying to kill an interceptor with Ogres with no luck. So recalled them, four came back, but one would not leave the interceptor alone.
So I launched my Hobgoblins, they killed the interceptor with no fuss. Then I ordered them to kill the wayward Ogre.
I hope the Ogres in the drone bay got the message.
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General Apocalypse
Amarr
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.14 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Aldir Rundal
In Soviet Russia, Drone Controls you.
QTF 
The drones are so fuked up atm that it's scarry .
Fighters that don't MWD back , drones that aggro whatever they like etc .
When this bugs will be fixed drones will be a solid weapon system onece more atm they're good if you do solo fights. But even the they can screw you up.
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Helmuth Halbstein
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Posted - 2007.05.14 10:41:00 -
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orges wont kill a ceptor
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OneSock
Silentia Mortalis
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Posted - 2007.05.14 10:58:00 -
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As far as I can see there seems to be a distance/time element to it.
If I send my drones after a given target if a) the distance they need to travel is too far or b) the time taken to reach the target is too long, then they will automatically choose themselves another target.
I am not sure if this is time based or distance based. But try this next time you have a few battleships to mop up. call your drones to return to drone bay. Deploy them, choose a target that is over 45km away. Send your drones. at around the 40km mark you may see them change targets of their own choice.
I have a hunch it is time related after the last command given. hence med or small drones have less problems because they reach target faster.
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breadcat
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Posted - 2007.05.14 12:40:00 -
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I sent a bug report about this bug 4 month ago (when kali was released). Seems like it went to the trash can... 
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THEDON1
Dark Elite
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.14 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Helmuth Halbstein
orges wont kill a ceptor
LIES!!!! ive been kiled of a lucky shot in the past in a inty 
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.05.14 12:50:00 -
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I really don't know how the drone AI works,
but usually, if they fly towards a target for long enough, or than it might just be that they have traveled some set distance, without getting into weapons range, they change targets. This is very irritating, especially if you are trying to rat.
Another thing drones love doing, is attacking friendlies. At least for fighters.
I don't have the RMR cartoon url anywhere, but it is quite fitting:)
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.14 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Aldir Rundal
In Soviet Russia, Drone Controls you.
We need a drone political officier. When drones start to stray he will kill one, and all the others will return to follow the orders.
As long as the political officer drone is alive all the other drones get +10% damage.
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Pewpewdude
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Posted - 2007.05.14 13:01:00 -
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One thing i have noticed with drones, if you have them out immediately, and you get shot at, they go after the targets that shot them. They will then go after everything that has 'aggressed' you, which is seemingly not obeying you.
If you put your drones out AFTER they have agressed you, they dont do a damn thing but follow your every command.
I think drones are fine, and its annoying me listen to idiots trying to control them.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.14 13:03:00 -
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I had a Vespa II sort of go "rogue" on me. I know that when a drone has a certain amount of damage, it won't function till its repaired, so this was NOT that problem. One night ratting, I launched my drones, all freshly fixed, and one of the Vespa's AIs wouldn't trigger. It would launch, and it would act like I'd disconnected, just sitting their in space, no command functionality, and I was forced to scoop to drone bay.
I was just out ratting in a .5 system, so I can't imagine this is some kind of NPC jamming.
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Pewpewdude
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Posted - 2007.05.14 13:08:00 -
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Dodona
Gallente
Azure Horizon
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.05.14 14:57:00 -
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This last evening, one of my Hobgoblins decided to lose its "I belong to Dodona" tag (the little green and white star).
I gave it a "polite" talking-to.
It hasn't been the same since.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.05.14 16:07:00 -
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Read that book by George Orwell, Drone Farm. Eventually they will overthrow command!
*drone boards dominix*
YARRRR!
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Originally by: welsh wizard
You might not be able to kill anything but you can sure as hell ignore it and go about your business
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Maxpie
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2007.05.14 16:11:00 -
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I've gone to great length trying to explain to my drones that their artificial lives would be much longer if only they would obey my commands. Though I am a human and imperfect, it is still better for them to obey me. But of course, they routinely disregard my orders resulting in their demise.
My new tact is to just keep spamming the command I want them to follow any moment I'm not doing something else.
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Jinhai Storm
Gallente
The Celestial Free Miner's
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Posted - 2007.05.14 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: OneSock
As far as I can see there seems to be a distance/time element to it.
If I send my drones after a given target if a) the distance they need to travel is too far or b) the time taken to reach the target is too long, then they will automatically choose themselves another target.
I am not sure if this is time based or distance based. But try this next time you have a few battleships to mop up. call your drones to return to drone bay. Deploy them, choose a target that is over 45km away. Send your drones. at around the 40km mark you may see them change targets of their own choice.
I have a hunch it is time related after the last command given. hence med or small drones have less problems because they reach target faster.
I think you could be on to something there, it'd explain why it's my ogres doing it as berserkers are a lot faster. I shall test this in my next long-range battleship duking contest!
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Wild Rho
Amarr
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:23:00 -
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My drones just keep trying to sex each other instead of fighting >:(
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TehPro
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:30:00 -
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Quote:
My drones just keep trying to sex each other instead of fighting >:(
Isn't that the way the GoonFleet works too?
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Wild Rho
Amarr
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:38:00 -
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Goons work now!?
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:40:00 -
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the ogres have no reason to listen to you
its clear who is stronger
ogres > you
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Borgholio
Minmatar
Quantum Industries
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:48:00 -
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I use a Typhoon for ratting in 0.0. My DPS comes from a combination of torpedoes and drones...so I've done a fair bit of experimentation with drones as a result. Originally, I used to fit a drone link aug which increased my drone range from 40km to 60km. When I would sic the drones on a target over 40km (my natural max range), they would run into problems. I'd often have to sic them on a target twice...once to begin with, and a second time after they got past my natural drone range. If I fit two drone link augs, it was the same thing. Each time the drones got to one of the max ranges (40km or 60km), I'd have to give them new orders. When I got rid of my drone link augs and brought my range back to 40km, they had no issues. So I think the problem is with the drone orders being erased once they get past your base drone control range.
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