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Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.05.15 09:55:00 - [31] Edited by: Hellspawn01 on 15/05/2007 09:56:30 Originally by: leir 2a. I have never seen or even heard of an actual MMO farming sweatshop - ever. 2b. I think if someone told a chinese worker to sit in front of a computer for wild amounts of time, did not give the worker food/water for long periods of time, did not give the worker breaks, treated the worker rudely, and did not pay the worker well, he would SIMPLY GET UP AND LEAVE, AND SO WOULD ALL HIS CO-WORKERS, thus ruining the company that was foolish enough to try something like that. 2c. Get it out of your heads that 'sweatshop' and 'MMO farmers' have anything to do with eachother. Linkage1 Linkage2 Ship lovers click here
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.15 10:08:00 - [32] Originally by: Hellspawn01 Edited by: Hellspawn01 on 15/05/2007 09:56:30 Originally by: leir 2a. I have never seen or even heard of an actual MMO farming sweatshop - ever. 2b. I think if someone told a chinese worker to sit in front of a computer for wild amounts of time, did not give the worker food/water for long periods of time, did not give the worker breaks, treated the worker rudely, and did not pay the worker well, he would SIMPLY GET UP AND LEAVE, AND SO WOULD ALL HIS CO-WORKERS, thus ruining the company that was foolish enough to try something like that. 2c. Get it out of your heads that 'sweatshop' and 'MMO farmers' have anything to do with eachother. Linkage1 Linkage2 dude a real sweatshop is like having slaves i dont see slaves ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
R3dSh1ft FIRMA	Posted - 2007.05.15 10:09:00 - [33] Its the owners of the game world who decide how it is to be played. If they say its illegal, then it is illegal. Therefore their actions are immoral. Take the hint farmers. Go away. _________________________________________________________ FIRMA - a drinking corp with an EVE problem
Brolly Caldari Morphic field	Posted - 2007.05.15 10:29:00 - [34] Edited by: Brolly on 15/05/2007 10:27:23 oops
Malcanis High4Life	Posted - 2007.05.15 10:46:00 - [35] ISK sellers can easily be defeated: Don't buy ISK Don't encourage anyone to buy ISK Don't tolerate ISK buyers in your corp Don't tolerate ISK buyers in your alliance Don't buy ISK.
leir	Posted - 2007.05.15 10:53:00 - [36] Originally by: Hellspawn01 Edited by: Hellspawn01 on 15/05/2007 09:56:30 Originally by: leir 2a. I have never seen or even heard of an actual MMO farming sweatshop - ever. 2b. I think if someone told a chinese worker to sit in front of a computer for wild amounts of time, did not give the worker food/water for long periods of time, did not give the worker breaks, treated the worker rudely, and did not pay the worker well, he would SIMPLY GET UP AND LEAVE, AND SO WOULD ALL HIS CO-WORKERS, thus ruining the company that was foolish enough to try something like that. 2c. Get it out of your heads that 'sweatshop' and 'MMO farmers' have anything to do with eachother. Linkage1 Linkage2 ...... ........ and? Do you see those white machines in the cornors of the rooms? Those are air conditioners. Most chinese work places and homes DO NOT EVEN HAVE THEM. All I see are a bunch of 20ish year old guys farming in games in typical looking chinese internet cafe rooms. No whips, no one forcing them to stay there etc. You don't like it that some of them are not wearing shirts, or the internet cafes do not look as professional as western ones? Tough. But that has nothing to do with slave labor or making people work in unsafe conditions etc. Most farmers work 8-10 hours per day, 5 or 6 days per week. This is standard in China. Unlike in western countries, workers in China get ONE FULL PAID MONTH off each Chinese New Year, an also a paid week off each Labor day, and a paid week off each October. From our points of veiw, YOU are the ones slaving away for your bosses. You are wearing a tie while doing it and your office is more professional looking...that's it. Again, get it out of your head that 'gold farming' and 'sweatshops' have anything to do with eachother.
Nox Solaris	Posted - 2007.05.16 19:35:00 - [37] Has anyone heard anything further about this spot? It's a crying shame that NPR can offer up a 'lets support criminals (sic)' radio spot but completely ignore the other side (i.e. the 'murderers') even via editorial response.
RedFall Irreligion	Posted - 2007.05.16 20:07:00 - [38] Originally by: Nox Solaris Has anyone heard anything further about this spot? It's a crying shame that NPR can offer up a 'lets support criminals (sic)' radio spot but completely ignore the other side (i.e. the 'murderers') even via editorial response. NPR is a huge, steaming pile of crap. Don't listen to it.
Nox Solaris	Posted - 2007.05.17 18:38:00 - [39] Originally by: RedFall Originally by: Nox Solaris Has anyone heard anything further about this spot? It's a crying shame that NPR can offer up a 'lets support criminals (sic)' radio spot but completely ignore the other side (i.e. the 'murderers') even via editorial response. NPR is a huge, steaming pile of crap. Don't listen to it. Perhaps, if you're a conservative. They provide news, however, which is something that the 'conservative radio' does not. All they do is talk... and talk... and talk... Granted, they make good points sometimes, but now and then the libs do too. But I don't enjoy listening to some emo fat dude addicted to painkillers ranting alllllll day long.
Tuschii Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.17 19:49:00 - [40] Edited by: Tuschii on 17/05/2007 19:46:44 MTV special on this subject, less dejected attitude. http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=news&id=1545907&vid=120059
RedFall Irreligion	Posted - 2007.05.17 20:07:00 - [41] Originally by: Nox Solaris Originally by: RedFall Originally by: Nox Solaris Has anyone heard anything further about this spot? It's a crying shame that NPR can offer up a 'lets support criminals (sic)' radio spot but completely ignore the other side (i.e. the 'murderers') even via editorial response. NPR is a huge, steaming pile of crap. Don't listen to it. Perhaps, if you're a conservative. They provide news, however, which is something that the 'conservative radio' does not. All they do is talk... and talk... and talk... Granted, they make good points sometimes, but now and then the libs do too. But I don't enjoy listening to some emo fat dude addicted to painkillers ranting alllllll day long. Neither do I. But it just seems hypocritical to say NPR is news while Fox isn't, or vice versa. They both suck.
Pete Higgs	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:40:00 - [42] Yay they read my letter on the air (well, part of it). Check it out: Listener Letters On the minus side, you now all know my real name and where I live. Oh and Devilish, I don't want any prize, and I didn't use my Eve name so I don't qualify anyway. Just keep up the good work at Eve-Uni.
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:56:00 - [43] Ok I will say this again...If your corps and alliances would mine their own minerals...there would'nt be isk farmers in the belts. If 'sombody did'nt buy isk from them, then there would be no market for them to exploit. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Gaiam Gallente Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:57:00 - [44] so chinese goldfarmers can feel its their right to farm games even though its against all games rules, and they feel they should be able to do it to the extent that they can make a living doing it. chinese in general are the most greedy most selfish society ever to grace the planet. its the same kind of attitude that lets them think they deserve to eat the wang off a tiger. chinese are a nasty culture and havent done much for the betterment of mankind at all. if you cant tell i think chinese suck. GO TAIWAN!!!
Vari Carbide Industries	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:30:00 - [45] The way I see it is this, gold farmers are pretty much doing something inethical, like cutting the line at an amusement park. But then again, so are the people who buy them. If you're free to make a fuss in public, you're free to commit online murder or whatever the game mechanics allow to prevent it from happening. Originally by: Gaiam chinese are a nasty culture and havent done much for the betterment of mankind at all. This actually has some merit. The Chinese have little respect for cleanliness, your safety and morals in general. They're usually out to make a quick buck here and there. Fake eggs and pet food. If you took a walk in any place in China other than Beijing you'll find human waste in public areas. If you visit please stick to the cities and bring pepto bismol because getting sick is inevitable.
Ryan Scouse'UK	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:32:00 - [46] Originally by: R0ot How about they go suck a lemon. Isk farmers DIE! I like lemons infact I eat them not to much tho bad for the teeth , on a better note... all ISK Farmers.. MUST DIE!! muahaha
Pete Higgs	Posted - 2007.05.24 18:14:00 - [47] Originally by: Vari Originally by: Gaiam chinese are a nasty culture and havent done much for the betterment of mankind at all. This actually has some merit. The Chinese have little respect for cleanliness, your safety and morals in general. Guys! Hey guys! I just got through defending you all in my letter to NPR saying it's not about racism! Come on guys . Let's keep it polite and constructive.
Pang Grohl Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.24 18:45:00 - [48] Who is more 'evil'? The isk farmer or the game-addicted joe that buys from the isk farmer? Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)

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