Now now, don't be disingenuous. She doesn't charge.

CVA are still fighting for the Empire, aren't they?

CVA fight in the milita, and defend Providence setting people like me red and shooting us.

Your KOS admin, the Xhjfx the Abomination pretty much played his strongest card in existence against me by making me permanent kos to Providence, I see little ways to resolve the issue.

What he failed to see was overwhelming support of my cause as a loyalist who struggles against disloyalty.

Yes, many CVA actively fight on the front lines for the money.

Sheeeit, we're at war? Why didn't someone tell me?

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... it should be a concern that I apparently have higher standards for Imperial loyalists than you do.

Now now, if I start holding people to lesser standards than I hold myself, I'd have to start acknowledging just how vastly superior I am to other people. We can't have that kind of narcissism and megalomania, now can we?

Things are not binary. Some loyalists are more loyal than others.

So you are saying that CVA has been bought? By whom, exactly?

I may have been using it more loosely than you are. I would say that the line between loyalist and not is this very question of "can they be enticed to betray the Empire by any means." If the answer is yes, then they are not loyalists. If the answer is no, they are loyalists, even if they might be imperfect ones.

Things are not binary. Some loyalists are more loyal than others.

I have no idea how you survive in the messy universe of the nullsec Barbarians with an approach to language that allows no room for nuance.

The word has a somewhat wider range of meaning than you allow. Take the phrase "He loyally attended every religious celebration," for example.

a "loyal churchgoer" or, if you want something secular, a "loyal sports fan." The phrase isn't implying that the person is less likely to outright betray their religion or team than a normal churchgoer or sports fan, but that they go above and beyond to show their loyalty to that religion or team.

It's also notable that you cannot reduce Amarr to a single proposition that they are loyal to. We aren't that simple, so they can be loyal to some aspects of Amarr without being loyal to all of them. A perfect loyalist is loyal to all of those ideals, while a less than perfect loyalist might be important to the most important ideals, but disloyal to some of the less important ideals, and I would still call them a loyalist.

I have no idea how you survive in the messy universe of the nullsec

You must be a blast at Soires.

Your literalism and willingness to reduce entire religions or cultures to singular propositions goes a long way towards explaining your belief in absurdly hardline atheism.

I do quite enjoy you all deciding to simply debate on the forums over how loyal we are or are not, on the whims of a man who attempted to instigate a coup within a loyalist organisation against it's rightful leader (as imposed by Aralis) as he was unable to follow basic courtesies on our communication channels and was actively hindering our ability to work against our enemies, and as such was temporarily muted which he took as a grave offence to his honour.

But, never let the facts get in the way of an old grudge, I suppose.