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Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.15 17:46:00 - [1] Originally by: Tareen Kashaar Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake stuff The reason you can't answer Yes / No rodj is quite obvious I'm afraid. What you want to say is "Yes (we are relevant when winning) but No (we are no relevant when losing)" but you can't have it both ways. Either you are relevant to the Amarrian Empire or you are not. You can't be revelant sometimes but not others. You can't have it both ways. So which is it. Is PIE relevant to the Amarrian Empire or not? On a side note, asking PIE whether they are relevant to the empire... maybe we should ask someone with actual authority instead. These guys certainly don't have any of that. Rodj's whole point appears to be just that! It is not his place to say, so instead he gave actions PIE had been involved with and left the decision to the outsiders. Glad to see you at least partially understand. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.15 18:47:00 - [2] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Cassandra Bontecou Our's is not too ask, merely to serve. So who asked you to go to providence? Are you intentionally missing the point? CVA are in providence of its own free will, our goals are to expand Amarr influence into the region, however, we are not the Amarr empire...so i shall suggest what has already been suggested again in the hope you may get the point. Perhaps you are asking the wrong people? ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.15 19:00:00 - [3] Edited by: Reash on 15/05/2007 18:58:38 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Reash Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Cassandra Bontecou Our's is not too ask, merely to serve. So who asked you to go to providence? Are you intentionally missing the point? CVA are in providence of its own free will, our goals are to expand Amarr influence into the region, however, we are not the Amarr empire...so i shall suggest what has already been suggested again in the hope you may get the point. Perhaps you are asking the wrong people? Well one of you says "Our's is not too ask, merely to serve." while the other says "CVA are in providence of its own free will" which is true? I cannot speak of his exact meaning but i could give a few examples. Perhaps he is speaking of himself personally serving as he is told by CVA leadership. (in this example) Perhaps he is speaking of serving the empire to the best of his ability under the guidlines set by the empire. (the meaning of not ask questions here meaning it is not our place but to do what we can under the guidelines, and of course assist with any specific requests) I do not see the problem with either statment? Neither insists that we were told to go to providence. However i agree alone the one statment could have been misleading. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.16 00:07:00 - [4] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Because you have been answered many times, just not in the format you wished. I can answer, without a doubt, that PIE has done more good for the Empire than SF has done it harm. But thats not hard, as the amount of harm SF has done is exceeded by your average pirate in providence. So you think that PIE is relevant to the empire then ? YES or NO ? To speed things up as i have found this before my friends in PIE. Can you be a little more specific? I personally do not think a question like this can be answered in one word. Unless of course the whole intention is to attempt to spin the answer in favour of the Star Fraction? But that wouldn;t be your style would it?... ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.16 16:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Cassandra Bontecou Originally by: Sable Schroedinger CVA + PIE + Friends are expanding and furthering the interests of the empire in providence when, if the empire wanted it could have taken it for itself, if the empire wanted a presence there the navy would already be there in force and no amarrian official has ever announced the empire has the slightest interest in the area. So, therefore, we can conclude using your logic, as there is no interest in the area, that the empire has no need to work through means other than its own navy and, according to your logic, a lack of expressed opinion equates to evidence of a contrary or disinterested opinion. It is fair to conclude that you are not in providence expanding the influence of ôgods empireö, you are nothing more than another group of 0.0 warlords and bandit kings and if anything, you are there against the very desires of the empire! (because everyone knows that if they desired the area they would have it already). I believe I've already spoke to this point. But patience is virtue, especially when dealing with feeble. To wit: Quote: CVA created Operation Deliverance inside Providence as a means of bringing Amarrian Law (and more importantly our one true Faith) to a lawlessness, ignorant, morally bankrupt, backwater little corner of space. Does that mean that the great houses of Amarr read of our victories here in Providence and cheer? Or that they brood on our set backs? I certainly wouldn't deign to say. However I know the multitudes of Amarrian civilians in lower Domain and Providence cheer and brood with us. I know the local magistrates, merchants, and lords give thanks daily for the safety and security we in CVA provide them. What does that all mean in regards to your glib question about our relevance to the Empire? We [CVA] came to Deliverance to settle it using the Empires precepts to guide us; Faith, Prosperity, Stability, and Security. And as Lord Reash has said we did this of our own free will. Thusly With every success we expand the Empirical sphere of influence, and so we serve. The war rolls on In my small, and rather unimportant opinion the highlighted section explains the difference between CVA and the ranks of 0.0 "warlords". So CVA does see itself as relevant to Empire. Now that wasn't too hard was it? Now only if PIE could do the same. If you read the section you highlighed you will see that it us the CVA that considers the Empire relevent. As has been stated, neither PIE nor CVA can speak for the empire. Asking the question again and again will not change that. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.19 17:01:00 - [6] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 19/05/2007 16:55:22 Originally by: Rodj Blake As for us struggling to find three members, I took this picture earlier today. Bravo, I'm glad you were able to dragoon out 8 bold PIE people for the parade Rodj (4 of whom we never saw in combat I note). As the Star Fraction declared war would it not have made it their task to hunt down these PIE members? Only further proof of how little effect you have had. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director

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