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Dravos Tarimus
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:40:40 -
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Do you find playing EVE an overall enjoyable experience, or in the grand scheme of things do you find yourself getting more angry, frustrated, sad, etc. from playing than if you didn't play? When you finish playing EVE for the day, do you find yourself less happy than when you started that day? EVE can be addictive but sometimes not in a good way, rather in a loop of negative emotions (you get angry so you try harder causing you to become more angry when you fail causing you to try even harder causing you to become even more angry when you fail etc.)
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
15929
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Posted - 2017.05.26 23:25:02 -
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I wouldn't be here if I didn't, next month makes 10 years and I'm still learning, still screwing up and still having a blast.
I don't get the unhappy people, but I suspect that:
-some people either like being perpetually pissed off by a thing or,
-they are 'naively hopeful' (read: stupid) and think that the things they don't like will eventually get fixed ("it's been 14 years, CCP will ban ganking ANY DAY NOW"!! lool), or,
- they are addicted and can't break out of it.
Either way it has to suck for them.
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Austin Blythe
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2017.05.26 23:53:53 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I wouldn't be here if I didn't, next month makes 10 years and I'm still learning, still screwing up and still having a blast.
I don't get the unhappy people, but I suspect that:
-some people either like being perpetually pissed off by a thing or,
-they are 'naively hopeful' (read: stupid) and think that the things they don't like will eventually get fixed ("it's been 14 years, CCP will ban ganking ANY DAY NOW"!! lool), or,
- they are addicted and can't break out of it.
Either way it has to suck for them.
Whining about entitled casuals for almost 10 years, must suck for you.
On topic, often I find I enjoy reading about EVE or watching EVE videos more than actually playing it. There are times when the things that **** me off about EVE just bore me or irritate me that little bit too much and I have a break. |
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
1214
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Posted - 2017.05.26 23:55:00 -
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...who on earth would keep playing a game they didn't enjoy? If someone's reading these forums they like the game... |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
11205
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:04:31 -
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Sometimes I hate it. Sometimes I love it.
I voted positive overall, though.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
15929
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:21:22 -
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Austin Blythe wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I wouldn't be here if I didn't, next month makes 10 years and I'm still learning, still screwing up and still having a blast.
I don't get the unhappy people, but I suspect that:
-some people either like being perpetually pissed off by a thing or,
-they are 'naively hopeful' (read: stupid) and think that the things they don't like will eventually get fixed ("it's been 14 years, CCP will ban ganking ANY DAY NOW"!! lool), or,
- they are addicted and can't break out of it.
Either way it has to suck for them.
Whining about entitled casuals for almost 10 years, must suck for you. On topic, often I find I enjoy reading about EVE or watching EVE videos more than actually playing it. There are times when the things that **** me off about EVE just bore me or irritate me that little bit too much and I have a break.
Oh look, a case in point. |
Aedaxus
Digital Zone Corp
62
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:22:05 -
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EVE Online is like drugs. Makes you feel good but wrecks you at the same time.
Great game, clunky interface on occasion but nice spaceships, lots of things to do in PVE. Mining, manufacturing, trade, hauling, lots of diverse missioning types, gradual security in regions making it a challenge even if you progress, jumping and warping looks like in DrWho! differnt regions, planet types (with a planetary interaction mini game), some nice chat channels although paranoia aabout "spaiz" make people in general not talk at all. But a large amount of great websites with a lot of information about just everything ingame.
I avoid PVP as much as possible. It's not my thing.
Extremely toxic community, much worse than 4chan's /pol/ channel. They probably aren't like that in real life but I guess we'll never know as criminal records and sexual offender statuses aren't linked into their profiles. Also on the forums a high degree of "Anyone who has an opinion different from mine is ********." exists. But yes, there are still a few nice players around. |
Pix Severus
Empty You
6511
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:30:53 -
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I enjoy EVE immensely.
I've found that the key to prolonged enjoyment of the game is to take regular breaks; don't try to take in too much at once or you'll burn-out.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1565
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:47:18 -
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I HATE YOU ALL!!
14 years of you fookahs is long enough!! Go die or something or let me shoot you in the face!! wait!! come back here so I can shoot you again!!
Why you running noob?!?! Youll only die tired!!
HERE PIGGIE PIGGIE PIGGIE!! -Bunny
Wait?!?! You guys are still here?!?!
What are you doing in MY Jita?!?! yeah... its MINE!! ITS MY ISLAND!!
DONT COME HERE AGAIN!!
/me eyeballs CCP
/me passes beer to ISD
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Djsaeu
Xx-illuminati-xX
61
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Posted - 2017.05.27 01:14:26 -
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I find that I am not enjoying EVE as much as I used to. I am still here and I am still doing what I do. Just the other day I had a very easy kill, and just let it go. I was thinking, hmm, oh well, not worth the ammo. I am even starting to avoid the people in the Corp. I think it may be time for a change. |
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1623
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Posted - 2017.05.27 01:58:41 -
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I've scaled back my dreams and had to also accept that I'll probably just be a solo player ~ since then I've been mostly happy. It's usually me vs. being able to stay connected to Tranquility anyway.
@lunettelulu7
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Vanessa Celtis
Vanessa Atalanta
14
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Posted - 2017.05.27 02:58:06 -
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Dravos Tarimus wrote:Do you find playing EVE an overall enjoyable experience, or in the grand scheme of things do you find yourself getting more angry, frustrated, sad, etc. from playing than if you didn't play? When you finish playing EVE for the day, do you find yourself less happy than when you started that day? EVE can be addictive but sometimes not in a good way, rather in a loop of negative emotions (you get angry so you try harder causing you to become more angry when you fail causing you to try even harder causing you to become even more angry when you fail etc.) http://www.strawpoll.me/13048904
I end-up an Eve session either by wanting to kill myself, or thinking I am the master of the universe. The only reason to quit EVE is when your hand holding the mouse is no longer sweaty when entering low-sec. Other than that Eve is like Facebook, you can't delete your character, it remains there forever. |
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
356
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Posted - 2017.05.27 03:22:56 -
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The only things preventing me enjoying EvE more are: 11-12 hours of work, coursework and study each day
And sometimes I do something so profoundly stupid, I just have to log off for a while. |
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
197
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Posted - 2017.05.27 03:25:37 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:I've scaled back my dreams and had to also accept that I'll probably just be a solo player ~ since then I've been mostly happy. It's usually me vs. being able to stay connected to Tranquility anyway. http://s.quickmeme.com/img/5f/5f5add03d2ce37d2451cbe2975ff5ad12b21e290ff620e0bf64bb243c4e07054.jpg
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
3083
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Posted - 2017.05.27 03:45:22 -
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I enjoy it, sometimes I play more sometimes less. Right now I mostly leave my trade alts logged in and update orders when I have a moment and then run manufacturing jobs when I have open slots.
keep meaning to get back into combat, but never seem to make it there for long. usually get drunk and go on a roam every so often and that satiates the blood lust.
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Magnus Jax
65
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Posted - 2017.05.27 06:38:21 -
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Pix Severus wrote:I enjoy EVE immensely.
I've found that the key to prolonged enjoyment of the game is to take regular breaks; don't try to take in too much at once or you'll burn-out.
For me that is the key. If I get too involved for too long I'll just burn out and start to resent my, self created, situation and probably rage quit because of it. Has happened several times over the years.
Take it in smaller doses, don't take it too serious (I stopped running 5+ accounts, for one thing) and switch play styles and activities from time to time. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
5860
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Posted - 2017.05.27 07:04:45 -
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I ceased to enjoy playing EVE long time ago and stopped playing altogether a year ago, but I still enjoy reading and writing about it, specially now that it's free to do it.
As many bittervets, I lovehate EVE, and in the long run the only sane decission was to stop.
CCP is a different matter, though, since what I love in EVE are mostly accidents that happened despite of CCP and what I hate are mostly CCP's actions and inactions.
Picture EVE as a insane but charismatic b*tch and CCP as the bastard parents that wrecked her (and keep wrecking her). |
Aurelius Oshidashi
Hard-line Syndicate Serrice Council.
30
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Posted - 2017.05.27 07:31:57 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:...who on earth would keep playing a game they didn't enjoy? If someone's reading these forums they like the game...
That was my first thought too. But if you're an idiot, have mental problems or just can't control your own behaviour you might turn out doing things you dont enjoy while nobody forces you.
Thats one of the reasons why psychologists have a job I guess. |
Aurelius Oshidashi
Hard-line Syndicate Serrice Council.
30
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Posted - 2017.05.27 07:34:26 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:I've scaled back my dreams and had to also accept that I'll probably just be a solo player ~ since then I've been mostly happy. It's usually me vs. being able to stay connected to Tranquility anyway.
You are awesome. I so much enjoy reading your posts always!
Please join us in null sec. We pride ourselves on giving total freedom to members, no obligations ever. Maybe that will allow you to scale up your dreams again? |
Aurelius Oshidashi
Hard-line Syndicate Serrice Council.
30
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Posted - 2017.05.27 07:42:21 -
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We run a null sec corp with only one goal, that everybody has fun when they log in. After all its a game. So far this is going great for us. Everyone is free to take up whatever role they want, join fleet ops, but no one is obliged to do anything.
Whenever someone isnt having fun, which is rare but happens, we help eachother out and fix his or her problem |
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March rabbit
Mosquito squadron The-Culture
2185
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Posted - 2017.05.27 07:50:35 -
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Unlike Jenna, i don't need to keep my narrative. So.....
EvE is like all the things you do because you like it overall an got used to it. Like smoking, cycling, walking... Most of the time you don't 'have a blast' (lol) but once in a while you get it and you understand - "this is why i'm here".
Couple years ago i liked to cycle out of the city. You know: every weekend around the year from Saturday morning to Sunday late night into forests, snow, marsh.... With bicycle and lots of needed stuff on your back.... And every time i asked myself "why the hell i'm here in this ****** weather under rain and heavy wind, walking with my bicycle and stuff on my back instead of sitting in bar or playing computer games in my home"? You know this feeling: you already hate it all and you only on your way out of the home.... And you cannot turn back and need to finish it.....
And the result is this: the moments when you returned home and unpack your stuff, upload photos and talk everyone around "do you know where we've been last weekend?"....
That's EvE. Most of the time you hate it and feel bored but there comes moment and ....
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
800
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Posted - 2017.05.27 07:53:26 -
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Been there, seen it all. Bittervets are that particularly lovely sort of players who feel insecure about either staying in the game or leaving. Most likely, they fall into a mental trap, like the notorious sunk cost fallacy, which makes them thrash in agony on chat channels, comms, and forums istead of hitting the door quietly. They contribute nothing of use to the conversation - all they do from now on is spoil the game for the people who have to read or listen to their crap.
I tried reasoning with bittervets in the past, and it's always futile. At this point, they're beyond sympathy and consolations - there's only a simple choice: either leave already or stay, but stop bitching about the damn game. After all, we here are all supposed to be adult human beings making rational choices. If he refuses to make that choice, it's better for him to GTFO with a little help from chat channels' moderatiors.
It's that simple: if you don't like the game, uninstall it. If you don't feel like playing right now, go play or do something else and return when you do feel like playing EVE. If you start regretting the money you've sunk into the game, then you're a dumbass, because you should have written off that subscription money into entetainment expenses long ago and forgotten about it on the day you did it.
It's also funny how certain bittervets talk about "toxic comunity" while acting like arguably the most toxic kind of people - energy vampires.
Agent of the New Order
Live by the Code - die by the Code.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
507
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Posted - 2017.05.27 09:39:53 -
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Eve has its moments of grace. But they stay docked most of the time.
p.s. Don't believe the dark side when they say "Join us! We have cookies!". It's not cookies, it's blue donuts.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1565
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Posted - 2017.05.27 10:08:41 -
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Aurelius Oshidashi wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:...who on earth would keep playing a game they didn't enjoy? If someone's reading these forums they like the game... That was my first thought too. But if you're an idiot, have mental problems or just can't control your own behaviour you might turn out doing things you dont enjoy while nobody forces you. Thats one of the reasons why psychologists have a job I guess. We are our own worst enemies is a popular cliche that sums up masochistic tendencies that are self imposed because many people truly believe they deserve such.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
1460
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Posted - 2017.05.27 14:11:51 -
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It's been 14 years and I hate this game with a passion. But I still log in, even though all I do is lose ships in the background while shitposting on the forums or ranting in various channels...
Epitome of the concept of bittervettism they call me..
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
130
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Posted - 2017.05.27 15:04:51 -
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I playing since 2013 and I always return to Eve.
My solo pew pve/industrial has taken a new step this year since I finally joined my first public fleet, from a twitch player, and did gang pvp, the lowbear in me is fully satisfied to pew other players and dying in cool explosions I have even more fun doing logi than the pew.
There is always something fun to do in Eve, even "solo"; you can pass years to do the same things again and again, until one day something happens
People outside (aka not Eve players) can say whatever about the Eve community; I find it diversely more alive and active than for other online games. |
Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
653
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Posted - 2017.05.27 15:38:39 -
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I've had a complicated history with eve. been playing off and on since 08 and have had many false starts.
but no matter how many times I've burned out, or rage quit I just keep coming back for another go at things.
This most recent go around has so far been by far the most successful, I learned from the previous lessons and set out to completely change how i played the game. to the point of extracting my old character and making a brand new one.
the three biggest things i've changed are 1) I stopped chasing the almighty isk, and started seeing it as a means to the goal of having fun rather than the goal itself. 2) I stopped playing solo and joined a corp, having people to chat with, and more importantly, other people out there finding content has made all the difference. and 3) I moved to null-sec, which while scary at first, fixed the iskflow problems that had always "held me back" practically overnight. |
Brutus Caphus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2017.05.27 16:25:42 -
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Definitely positive emotions for me. The great thing about EVE is that I come away with a sense of accomplishment and progression even if I can only play for 30 minutes. I even feel a sense of progression when I CAN'T play because I make sure my skills are queued up! I have also rediscovered my love for science fiction, and EVE has an amazing background. |
JC Mieyli
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2017.05.27 16:51:34 -
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i only play it because i havent made my own space game yet but when i do its gonna wipe this game and every other space game off the face of the earth and space |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
2888
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Posted - 2017.05.27 17:17:08 -
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Djsaeu wrote:I find that I am not enjoying EVE as much as I used to. I am still here and I am still doing what I do. Just the other day I had a very easy kill, and just let it go. I was thinking, hmm, oh well, not worth the ammo. I am even starting to avoid the people in the Corp. I think it may be time for a change.
Start over again with nothing as a completely new character. Your perspective on the game will change drastically and you may find you enjoy it again. Don't give your new character anything, give all your stuff away so you "burn your ships when you reach the new land" - there is no possibility of going back, you are totally committed to your new course of action then. (I would be glad to help you in this regard by gratefully accepting anything you might wish to give me btw)
Of course you will still have your knowledge about EvE, but things will change completely for you. When you are not spacerich an amount of isk that was not even a small thought for you before you will consider when choosing T1 guns and equipment. Find a completely new corp with no connections to your previous group.
It will change EvE for you.
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