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Armatige TheThird
Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate
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Posted - 2017.05.29 06:04:41 -
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I REMEMBER WHEN THESE WERE COMING OUT THE BIG DEAL WAS THEY WERE NOT GOING TO BE CORP OWNED WHAT THE @#$% HAPPENED TO THAT???????????????????? NOW I HAVE TO HOPE THAT MY CORP OWNER GIVES ME RIGHTS OR I WASTED ALL THAT TIME TO BUILD ONE,OR FIND A WAY TO MAKE MY OWN CORP AND STILL BE IN MY ALLIANCE. THIS IS CRAP YOU MADE THE (PLAYER OWNED STATION) NOT FU@%$^& PLAYER OWNED BUT CORP OWNED AND NOW YOU WENT BACK ON WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE CITADELS AND CHANGED THEM ALSO. WELL REALLY CAN'T WAIT FOR A REAL GAME TO FINISH SO I CAN PLAY THAT INSTEAD. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1440
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Posted - 2017.05.29 06:21:50 -
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A corp is owned by a player and a citadel is owned by a corp ergo a player owns a citadel through a corporation.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Teckos Pech
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
6520
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Posted - 2017.05.29 06:26:54 -
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In before the lock.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1569
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Posted - 2017.05.29 06:40:13 -
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Much capital WOW here.
IB4TL
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
522
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Posted - 2017.05.29 06:42:51 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Much capital WOW here. IB4TL
Caps are cool, mkay?
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1645
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Posted - 2017.05.29 07:01:12 -
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Armatige TheThird wrote:I REMEMBER WHEN THESE WERE COMING OUT THE BIG DEAL WAS THEY WERE NOT GOING TO BE CORP OWNED WHAT THE @#$% HAPPENED TO THAT???????????????????? Reading comprehension happened to that.
Remove standings and insurance.
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Magnus Jax
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Posted - 2017.05.29 07:01:27 -
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You look at the thread title, caps with question mark spamming, and you already don't think too highly of the OP's mental capabilities.
Then you check the OP's post (not read, that's impossible nor would you want to) and it further cements the "what an idiot" feeling.
Then you casually check his killboard and find he loses untanked hulks
Then you check his other chars and find that he makes all caps clown posts with that one as well , and still loses terribly fit ships
And you wonder, why even bother with answering the idiotic question in the first place.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
3458
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Posted - 2017.05.29 07:11:23 -
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Armatige TheThird wrote:I REMEMBER WHEN THESE WERE COMING OUT THE BIG DEAL WAS THEY WERE NOT GOING TO BE CORP OWNED WHAT THE @#$% HAPPENED TO THAT???????????????????? NOW I HAVE TO HOPE THAT MY CORP OWNER GIVES ME RIGHTS OR I WASTED ALL THAT TIME TO BUILD ONE,OR FIND A WAY TO MAKE MY OWN CORP AND STILL BE IN MY ALLIANCE. THIS IS CRAP YOU MADE THE (PLAYER OWNED STATION) NOT FU@%$^& PLAYER OWNED BUT CORP OWNED AND NOW YOU WENT BACK ON WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE CITADELS AND CHANGED THEM ALSO. WELL REALLY CAN'T WAIT FOR A REAL GAME TO FINISH SO I CAN PLAY THAT INSTEAD. I don't know why I try, but here is what you do: 1) Make new corporation with an alt. 2) Deploy Citadel using this alt corporation 3) Use the access list to give docking rights to your main character, or possible your whole corp/alliance. Or even completely public. 4) Enjoy the fruits of your hard work
If, by some chance, your alt corp is wardecced and the structure attacked, add your alliance as the free defender and they can help you defend it. If it is outside of highsec, they can help you defend it in any case.
The 8 Golden Rules of Eve
Why Do They Gank?
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
621
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Posted - 2017.05.29 07:30:53 -
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U MAD? |
Armatige TheThird
Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate
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Posted - 2017.05.29 07:48:05 -
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Wow none of you get the point, yes a corp is owned by a person duh!! They (CCP) originally stated that a person not with corps rights could deploy one now they change their ways, so now you have to have corp rights to set one up. Was never stated anywhere that I saw and now it's a hassle to get those rights cause not everyone wants to give them to just anybody. And yes I could form my own but then would have to be in my alliance and they are not allowing corps made with only a few people in them. Also I'm pretty good at doing things on my own and not relying on other people, they (CCP) have designed this game to where you have to be in a big group to do just about anything. They have also made it better for people who want to PVP and not for the passive ones who just want to build and transport. They need better ways to get away from camps and tackle. Now look you have got me off track...... Yes there is a lot of things I can't stand about this game and it's game play, but some I do enjoy and the people I am with make it bearable. |
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
621
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Posted - 2017.05.29 07:49:21 -
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Mobile Depot, that is what your looking for.
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Armatige TheThird
Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate
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Posted - 2017.05.29 07:51:08 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:Mobile Depot, that is what your looking for.
Nope can't do nothing with that, I need manufacturing, research, and Invention
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Armatige TheThird
Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate
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Posted - 2017.05.29 07:52:42 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:A corp is owned by a player and a citadel is owned by a corp ergo a player owns a citadel through a corporation.
IE Through a corp they said you didn't have to be. Don't want to have to go through the corp I think that's stupid. |
Armatige TheThird
Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate
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Posted - 2017.05.29 07:59:14 -
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Magnus Jax wrote:You look at the thread title, caps with question mark spamming, and you already don't think too highly of the OP's mental capabilities.
Then you check the OP's post (not read, that's impossible nor would you want to) and it further cements the "what an idiot" feeling.
Then you casually check his killboard and find he loses untanked hulks
Then you check his other chars and find that he makes all caps clown posts with that one as well , and still loses terribly fit ships
And you wonder, why even bother with answering the idiotic question in the first place.
Wow so once again It's all about the killboard (Fu@# that sh@3) I can give two shi#@ about a killboard that's not what the game is to me. And anyone who thinks that's all this is about needs help. And it doesn't matter how tanked you are they come in tackle you and you can't do anything about it but watch your ship die. So it's pointless to tank it. And the caps were for attention grabber. And if you really have to go and do research on some ones killbaord or other characters just to reply to a forum you need the help.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
621
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Posted - 2017.05.29 08:01:38 -
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Armatige TheThird wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:A corp is owned by a player and a citadel is owned by a corp ergo a player owns a citadel through a corporation. IE Through a corp they said you didn't have to be. Don't want to have to go through the corp I think that's stupid.
You sure your not thinking about the smaller things they are talking about adding soon that won't have docking? Although I am unsure whether they stated or not if those were personal or corp. |
Armatige TheThird
Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate
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Posted - 2017.05.29 08:04:25 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:Armatige TheThird wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:A corp is owned by a player and a citadel is owned by a corp ergo a player owns a citadel through a corporation. IE Through a corp they said you didn't have to be. Don't want to have to go through the corp I think that's stupid. You sure your not thinking about the smaller things they are talking about adding soon that won't have docking? Although I am unsure whether they stated or not if those were personal or corp.
If you are talking about the refineries I'm sure they will be. |
Wander Prian
Art Of Explosions
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Posted - 2017.05.29 08:08:41 -
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I followed the discussion quite closely when the new structures were being hashed out. I do not remember anybody from CCP saying that you could have them without being in a corporation. Can you find the quote to back up this claim?
Wormholer for life.
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Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
1230
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Posted - 2017.05.29 08:11:51 -
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A week ago the public engineering complex I was using in highsec ran out of fuel for the 3rd time. It was time to build my own.
I created an Alpha character, trained corporate management level 1, created a corporation and deployed a Raitaru which my other highsec characters can use.
Don't understand what the problem is here ... |
Armatige TheThird
Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate
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Posted - 2017.05.29 08:12:04 -
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Wander Prian wrote:I followed the discussion quite closely when the new structures were being hashed out. I do not remember anybody from CCP saying that you could have them without being in a corporation. Can you find the quote to back up this claim?
I am looking for it now |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
621
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Posted - 2017.05.29 08:15:22 -
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Armatige TheThird wrote:Wander Prian wrote:I followed the discussion quite closely when the new structures were being hashed out. I do not remember anybody from CCP saying that you could have them without being in a corporation. Can you find the quote to back up this claim? I am looking for it now
Edit your op and the thread name if you want to avoid a lock.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
640
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Posted - 2017.05.29 08:22:14 -
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Armatige TheThird wrote: Wow none of you get the point
you're the one not getting it.
Armatige TheThird wrote: yes I could form my own
yes you could, which makes your silly statement about not being able to do so mute.
Armatige TheThird wrote: Also I'm pretty good at doing things on my own / they (CCP) have designed this game to where you have to be in a big group to do just about anything.
not a team player in an mmorpg never ends well / nope not true, but do keep in mind,, the game is an mmorpg and people who work together tend to get better results than a solo pilot.
Armatige TheThird wrote: They have also made it better for people who want to PVP and not for the passive ones who just want to build and transport.
well that's also just not true. but you won't get why because you're blinded by your own ignorance and will not back down.
Armatige TheThird wrote: the people I am with make it bearable.
oh that's not good, ya see if the people you play with suddenly stop playing you will also.
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Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
91
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Posted - 2017.05.29 09:08:42 -
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So...let me so, you don't understand the term player owned station and CCP is at fault?
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Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
371
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Posted - 2017.05.29 10:24:33 -
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I never much like how moderation of topics, like possible locks, becomes the topic people post about when the topic of the post is pretty interesting.
Capitals aren't hard to read and evoke no emotion in me at all; complaining about caps does.
Everything in moderation is the old saying, except moderation, get rid of that, it kills conversation.
As to the real topic, it's not hard to set up a fake corporation.
But should customers have to do that?
What does having fake accounts mean to the playerbase?
Personally, there should be as little reason as possible to make alternate characters, otherwise the whole virtuality fills up with players who play themselves.
Citadels are a great idea, and one day they will be the reason I return.
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Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox.
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
228
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Posted - 2017.05.29 11:00:07 -
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Hir Miriel wrote:I never much like how moderation of topics, like possible locks, becomes the topic people post about when the topic of the post is pretty interesting.
Capitals aren't hard to read and evoke no emotion in me at all; complaining about caps does.
Everything in moderation is the old saying, except moderation, get rid of that, it kills conversation.
As to the real topic, it's not hard to set up a fake corporation.
But should customers have to do that?
What does having fake accounts mean to the playerbase?
Personally, there should be as little reason as possible to make alternate characters, otherwise the whole virtuality fills up with players who play themselves.
Citadels are a great idea, and one day they will be the reason I return.
You don't "need" an alt to create a corp, you could just create it yourself, the corp creation skill takes very little time to train, and alts generally are used to fill a role you would normally need a second player for, cyno alts for example :P
I think at one point i actually had 3 accounts active, now i'm down to 2 :P |
March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2196
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Posted - 2017.05.29 12:36:00 -
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Armatige TheThird wrote:Wow none of you get the point, yes a corp is owned by a person duh!! They (CCP) originally stated that a person not with corps rights could deploy one now they change their ways, so now you have to have corp rights to set one up. Was never stated anywhere that I saw... I wanted to have citadel when they just came to Tranq. I've checked it myself and i can say: they needed special corporation roles right from the start.
And now comes why you have to have proper roles: this is because citadels are allowed in high-sec. You must be in corp to be wardeccable and no corp CEOs would like to get lossmail of citadel he was not even aware of.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
520
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Posted - 2017.05.29 13:47:50 -
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Citadels were meant to replace POSes. POSes were corp owned. What did you expect?
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
4113
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Posted - 2017.05.29 15:38:54 -
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IIRC CCP stated that because there needs to be a way to attack and remove citadels in highsec, they have to be owned by a corp so it is possible to wardec the owner.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Netan MalDoran
Planet Squanch
288
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Posted - 2017.05.29 17:16:31 -
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IB4L
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Falcon's truth
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6873
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Posted - 2017.05.29 17:51:49 -
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You know, you don't need to be in the owning corp to use a citadel.
The only things you can't do is change the fittings, or refuel it. |
Teckos Pech
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
6521
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Posted - 2017.05.29 18:51:20 -
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Hir Miriel wrote:I never much like how moderation of topics, like possible locks, becomes the topic people post about when the topic of the post is pretty interesting.
Capitals aren't hard to read and evoke no emotion in me at all; complaining about caps does.
Everything in moderation is the old saying, except moderation, get rid of that, it kills conversation.
As to the real topic, it's not hard to set up a fake corporation.
But should customers have to do that?
What does having fake accounts mean to the playerbase?
Personally, there should be as little reason as possible to make alternate characters, otherwise the whole virtuality fills up with players who play themselves.
Citadels are a great idea, and one day they will be the reason I return.
The OP is ranting, quite possibly remembering wrong, and the all caps makes her look like a fool. If the OP had just waited a bit, cooled down and then posted without the all caps and the ranting then there'd be little to no possibility of a lock. Posting something like, "Hey, I thought I could have a citadel and not have to worry about getting rights from my CEO when did CCP change that?" Then people would respond with, "No, unfortunately that is not the case, etc., etc., etc....."
The problem is probably this: When setting up a citadel there are going to be rights that have to be handed out. Rights to hangars etc. is typically the purview of corporations and the leadership of the corporation. The OP's view was probably never really accurate. CCP might have said "players" meaning a player run corp like one of the earlier responses.
To be quite honest, the OP should go and edit that response and tone it down.
And that this is not locked yet suggests that ISD is being somewhat moderate in their moderation.
And yes if you want your own personal citadel and you want to be part of a corporation and you do not have various rights inside that corporation...then you'll need an alt. Working as intended...until they can sort out a new structure/code for granting various types of rights.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
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