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Pann
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Posted - 2004.01.06 01:48:00 -
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One of our event volunteers attempted to host an event tonight that seems to have caused some confusion. I'd like to clear up a few misconceptions, explain a couple of things and put some fears to rest.
First of all, it is not possible for ordinary characters (i.e. non-volunteers or unofficial representatives of EVE) to have colored text. When a volunteer leaves the program, that special account is closed and they can no longer access it. No regular accounts have colored text.
The colors indicate the following:
Teal = a lower-level volunteer
Green = an upper-level volunteer
Red = GM
Blue = CCP
Event volunteers sometimes need to scout things out on Tranquility in order to get more accurate data on who and what is in a particular system when they are planning an event because spawns are different on the two servers. So, you may see them occasionally wandering about and this doesn't immediately signify that someone is "spying" on you. Before they are allowed to do this research, their events have been approved by us and we know where they are going to be and why.
Due to game mechanics, events that will involve hunting a role played character, or RPC, have to be conducted in the lower-sec areas of space. Trying to do it in Empire Space would result in CONCORD attacking the participants, which we'd like to avoid, obviously. Therefore, it is not unusual for events to be held in 0.0 space. Again, we are aware of this beforehand and we have approved the events, so we know where the volunteers are and why they are there.
Please do not automatically presume that everyone has some kind of evil ulterior motive or that all volunteers have some sekret pirate character as an alt that they are going to use to annihilate the unsuspecting. If a character with colored text pops into your local channel and says something like, "I need brave, able-bodied pilots to help me right away!" that's not someone trying to make player pirate fodder out of you. That's someone trying to give you a good time with an event - and you could wind up with some great stories and cool loot from it.
For those of you Chicken Littles who automatically assume the sky is falling and feel the need to cover your head with foil so the satellites can't send mind-scrambling rays into your heads, if you want to verify that an event is legitimate, you can hop into the ingame Help Channel and ask the vols available there or ask in the #Eve-chaos IRC channel.
Sheesh, folks. Ya ask for events and we try to give them to ya, then ya start wigging out on us. Our poor vols are damned if they do, damned if they don't. Lighten up. 
As always, please feel free to e-mail me if you have questions.
Eve Community Manager
[email protected]
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Ross
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Posted - 2004.01.06 01:59:00 -
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hehe well said 
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.01.06 02:14:00 -
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It was or corp that took part in this event. I think it was only after getting to the location to find some others players had taken out the targets and helped the poor indy pilot to his destination that the idea of a scam was brought up.
As the scout on this excursion it may have been my poor lack of information relaying that caused the confussion as it was a number of player pirates that took our possible glory and fun.
I would like to appologise for any whinning or misunderstandings and hope that there are many more event like this in the future. Although next time let us have the fun!! 
P.s. I was there to see him into the last gate and freedom so be kind in your offerings if any.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.06 04:16:00 -
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Edited by: Cao Cao on 06/01/2004 04:18:10
Wow I bet those morons feel like true fools now...
Next time bring the event to FDZ4-A, the Forsaken Empire is arms-wide-open to this stuff
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Scragg
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Posted - 2004.01.06 04:44:00 -
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Thieves believe everyone is trying to steal from them. Unfaithful mates believe their spouses are cheating on them. Con-men think everyone is trying to con them. Cheaters think everyone is trying to cheat them.
Of course if your none of the above this does not apply to you and you should not be the least bit offended.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.01.06 06:54:00 -
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Just because you're paranoid...doesn't mean CCP aren't out to get you.
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.01.06 07:28:00 -
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hold such events in CFS/ORE controlled space... maybe fountain... also sounds like NVA is softening up a little lately ?
Staind has allready showned they are capable of being "big"... with the jovian event there...
im sorry biomass, but wouldn't u just go ahead and kill right and left and block off access, to keep the loot for urselfs ? u seem like such persons to me ?
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2004.01.06 07:35:00 -
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Hihi was a great Event this Ghoul Cruisers realy hurt me ppr raven, but in the end "the endtime" (my ships name) stand it ;)
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Lady Galadriel
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Posted - 2004.01.06 08:21:00 -
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Keep up the great work !
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2004.01.06 08:52:00 -
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Thanks for the info Pann... I look forward to the forthcoming events.
And to the chicken littles... RUN FOR COVER
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.06 09:11:00 -
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Pann, sweetie darling, EVERYONE knows you don't mix teal with green!
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.06 09:41:00 -
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So pann, o.o; Can i have your items?
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Cool dude
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Posted - 2004.01.06 11:06:00 -
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Ok I was part of the event last night as were a fair amount of my corp mates.
Firstly let me say congrats to CCP for organising it.
However I think that I need to clarify a few points. The confusion was caused I am told by the fact that the polaris person used showed up as having left polaris on thier employment history.
The people who eventually took the pirate out and got the spoils just happened to be gate camping that system and were not even part of the event. May I suggest that a little more scouting is done by polaris before starting future events.
On the whole though well done ccp it dragged me away from the roids for an hour.
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.01.06 11:23:00 -
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For those of you Chicken Littles who automatically assume the sky is falling and feel the need to cover your head with foil so the satellites can't send mind-scrambling rays into your heads, if you want to verify that an event is legitimate, you can hop into the ingame Help Channel and ask the vols available there or ask in the #Eve-chaos IRC channel.
Can I take the tin foil off now then?
On a more serious note, if the original thread (regardless of whether it should have been posted or not) had had a reply like this instead of it been edited and then locked, I doubt we'd have had all the chaos and name calling we got.
A simple reply like this explaining to all the "paranoid" people about how events are organised would clear up things in no time.
BTW if your having events in "claimed" space or "pirate" hotspots, be careful :P you may be fueling the pod counts 
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Tigersbane
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Posted - 2004.01.06 12:29:00 -
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Due to game mechanics, events that will involve hunting a role played character, or RPC, have to be conducted in the lower-sec areas of space. Trying to do it in Empire Space would result in CONCORD attacking the participants, which we'd like to avoid, obviously. Therefore, it is not unusual for events to be held in 0.0 space. Again, we are aware of this beforehand and we have approved the events, so we know where the volunteers are and why they are there.
With the greatest respect Pann, if the event is to kill a Pirate, how hard is it to give them a -5.0 or more security rating? This would mean that the events can be held in empire space and open them up for more players....
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.01.06 12:36:00 -
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With the greatest respect Pann, if the event is to kill a Pirate, how hard is it to give them a -5.0 or more security rating? This would mean that the events can be held in empire space and open them up for more players....
This event was held in Empire space, just not a .5+ system. Anyone could join in the event as it happened and did.
Lets not let this thread drop into a critisism or attack on what the polaris guys are trying to do.
It was a missunderstanding of how the event was played out and that is where it should end.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.06 12:44:00 -
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With the greatest respect Pann, if the event is to kill a Pirate, how hard is it to give them a -5.0 or more security rating?
Not hard at all; but since they'd last all of three and a half seconds before CONCORD blasted them to oblivion, it wouldn't be much of an event.
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Jocca Quinn
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Posted - 2004.01.06 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jocca Quinn on 06/01/2004 12:54:03
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Due to game mechanics, events that will involve hunting a role played character, or RPC, have to be conducted in the lower-sec areas of space. Trying to do it in Empire Space would result in CONCORD attacking the participants, which we'd like to avoid, obviously. Therefore, it is not unusual for events to be held in 0.0 space.
Bue to player mechanics (alliances) most areas of 0.0 are off limits to the majority of players. Trying to get to these events results in going home in a pod or waking up in a new clone.
none of us are free
as long as one of us is chained
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Cool dude
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Posted - 2004.01.06 12:54:00 -
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Its not the tinfoil that bothers me, its the congealed turky fat that makes it uncomfortable!
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Code404
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Posted - 2004.01.06 13:02:00 -
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Why is it that all the events so far are 0.0 space locations, and setup as PvP only???
Thought Eve-Online had a lot more to it then PvP and that those working for the games community understood this.
Since there are vast numbers not able to participate in the events held in the aliance controlled spaces that are choosen, and are not PvP players (whole lot of miners, traders, manufacturers), why exclude them from having events.
It isn't that hard. Place a few rare astroids in a field for mining, blame the rare rocks on a passing comet. Eject a cc with some sort of nice loot, caused by a malfuntioning hanger door on a ship. Sales on clones in empire space would help a lot of players (this happened before), see how easy it is...
Point is, as some point out allllll the time, those in empire space also pay each month, and deserve to enjoy events without being podded for daring to try to get to them. (no i was not shot, so don't start your troll attempts)
Please hold events that are not gank fest for the aliances and pirates in them, so the non fighter players can get their moneys worth from eve also.
(now for the trolls about to flame about eve being PvP, read the box/site and ask CCP, Eve has pvp aspects, it is not a pvp only game [pvp=fighting])
Thank you.
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Cool dude
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Posted - 2004.01.06 13:08:00 -
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Err try actually reading some of the previous posts. This event was held in empire space not 0.0.
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Tigersbane
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Posted - 2004.01.06 13:15:00 -
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Jeez why dont people read what was actually asked before having a go at the poster.
The quote I posted was direct from Pan herself - Here it is again for the hard of seeing...."Due to game mechanics, events that will involve hunting a role played character, or RPC, have to be conducted in the lower-sec areas of space. Trying to do it in Empire Space would result in CONCORD attacking the participants, which we'd like to avoid, obviously. Therefore, it is not unusual for events to be held in 0.0 space. Again, we are aware of this beforehand and we have approved the events, so we know where the volunteers are and why they are there."
The question was posed around the quote not around the latest event...
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Code404
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Posted - 2004.01.06 13:17:00 -
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Jeez why dont people read what was actually asked before having a go at the poster.
The quote I posted was direct from Pan herself - Here it is again for the hard of seeing...."Due to game mechanics, events that will involve hunting a role played character, or RPC, have to be conducted in the lower-sec areas of space. Trying to do it in Empire Space would result in CONCORD attacking the participants, which we'd like to avoid, obviously. Therefore, it is not unusual for events to be held in 0.0 space. Again, we are aware of this beforehand and we have approved the events, so we know where the volunteers are and why they are there."
The question was posed around the quote not around the latest event...
Thank you sir, nice to see some understand.
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Elad Baan
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Posted - 2004.01.06 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Elad Baan on 06/01/2004 13:25:25
Stupid question : if all events are in <0.3 systems, that means that newbies, freelances without ³ber ships and other average pilots can't really participate ?
(reads again the thread) Ah okay. No, forget what I said !
Cool ideas for the game - New mission types - Group missions - Planets and the market |
Der Ewige
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Posted - 2004.01.06 13:22:00 -
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Not al events are Pvp events in fact we just won 2 events wher eu just had to find some debris with your scanner ;)
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.01.06 13:26:00 -
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seeing...."Due to game mechanics, events that will involve hunting a role played character, or RPC, have to be conducted in the lower-sec areas of space. Trying to do it in Empire Space would result in CONCORD attacking the participants, which we'd like to avoid, obviously. Therefore, it is not unusual for events to be held in 0.0 space. Again, we are aware of this beforehand and we have approved the events, so we know where the volunteers are and why they are there."
The question was posed around the quote not around the latest event...
I have just put my glass's on so can now read all the posts in this thread.
Ahh... I can see it all now!!!!
As I was involved in said event that took place IN EMPIRE SPACE, I think I am justified in commenting.
And if you look over Panns comments you will see words such as
'have to be conducted in the lower-sec areas of space'
Nothing said about 0.0
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'Therefore, it is not unusual for events to be held in 0.0 space'
Not unusual, but not all the time!!
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Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2004.01.06 13:55:00 -
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Firstly let me say congrats to CCP for organising it.
I'll pass your praise on to the Aurora producer responsible. He will be pleased to hear you enjoyed it.
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However I think that I need to clarify a few points. The confusion was caused I am told by the fact that the polaris person used showed up as having left polaris on thier employment history.
Now, the whole 'ex-Polaris' thing makes a little sense... it would seem that employment history could confuse players... I will attempt to clarify this.
Every Aurora character we create automatically is born into the Polaris corporation. Then, we often have them join other, more appropriate corporations (Concord, Sansha's Nation, etc.).
These characters are not created on a player account. If a volunteer leaves Aurora, they no longer have access to any character that ever had volunteer status. There are no ex-Polaris characters.
Hope this helps.
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The people who eventually took the pirate out and got the spoils just happened to be gate camping that system and were not even part of the event. May I suggest that a little more scouting is done by polaris before starting future events.
We can't scout everything out... and in some cases it's intentional. Let's say that we are running a convoy-escort mission. The players protecting it may have to defend it from both Aurora-played pirates, and player pirates. We won't route around a player blockade... after all, that would be depriving those player pirates of their chance to participate.
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Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2004.01.06 14:03:00 -
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With the greatest respect Pann, if the event is to kill a Pirate, how hard is it to give them a -5.0 or more security rating? This would mean that the events can be held in empire space and open them up for more players....
Different sort of mechanics... we have the ability to run combat events anywhere, including 1.0 space. But we don't.
Blame me. If an event is going to involve unprovoked combat, I do not allow it to run in 0.5 or higher space. It's my rule, and I stand by it.
Does it exclude some players from those events? Yes.
So, why do I do it? Because players in higher security systems are generally not expecting to get jumped, and so are not prepared. How would you like to be AFK mining, or hauling a load of frozen plant seeds, and you run into Sansha's entire Nation, all looking to ice you?
It's not a pretty picture.
So, you will not find those sort of events in 0.5 or higher space. Consentual combat, and noncombat events still run there.
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Lead Event Producer Hobbes
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Lady Galadriel
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Posted - 2004.01.06 14:06:00 -
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keep up the good work ..
oh and gimme a job :)
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.06 14:09:00 -
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hold such events in CFS/ORE controlled space... maybe fountain... also sounds like NVA is softening up a little lately ?
Staind has allready showned they are capable of being "big"... with the jovian event there...
im sorry biomass, but wouldn't u just go ahead and kill right and left and block off access, to keep the loot for urselfs ? u seem like such persons to me ?
Sorry, that's been done. By Stain.
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