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Yazor
We Are Down Syndrome
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Posted - 2017.06.02 10:32:33 -
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I'm confused as to how any of this will sit with any Rorqual Pilot.... when the Mining drones were first introduced... assuming you fitted your Rorqual with a Tank fit due to the drop happy... You mined about as much yield as 3 and a half Hulks.... well fitted Hulk = Max 500 Million Isk..... Rorqual w/ Excavator Drones = 12-15 Billion....
Then you nerfed the Rorqual lowering the yield those drones mine and also spread the belts out further.... now the same Rorqual Mines as much as 2 Hulks.
Just about every Indy player in Eve has more then one account.... why bother with the Rorqual anymore.... I can field 6 Hulks doubling the yield and all at a quarter of the price of a Rorqual.... and that's using crappy Porpoise Mining Boosts
Now you want to nerf it even futher... WTF
I have played this game for a very long time, I have seen only a few positive changes ever made to Industry... Most were bad for Indy.
I honestly feel like I have wasted years training into what will essentially become a useless ship... I have 4 members that sold there Rorquals and the over priced excavator/Ice drones... then they literally used the skill extractors to suck out the skills and profit from them in selling the injectors. They have switched from Indy to PVE and are now "Super Ratting".
Sell your Rorqual, Sell the expensive Ore/Ice Excavators, Suck the Indy skills out used to pilot the Rorqual, sell Skill Injectors.... now take all that isk and get a super and go rat....
Is that the kind of changes your seeking CCP? That is whats happening... why do we continue to call it a "Capital Industrial" when the ratio in comparable cost to yield clearly favors using an Exhumer instead of a Rorqual?
I honestly have no idea why I'm even bothering to post, CCP continually disregards any input from actual Indy players, CSMs are usually all PVPers from the Power Blocks... Fozzie will likely never even read these posts gang... CCP is not what it once was... I really wish they would sell Eve Online to someone else.
Time to start looking for a new game to waste another 10 years on... this ones about done... |
Yazor
We Are Down Syndrome
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:36:47 -
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Napalm Morning wrote:You need to be a special kind of ****** developer to bait ppl into investing tens of billions in rorquals, then nerfing them to the ground 8 months later.
Nerfing once - ok we all knew 300-400M per hour was insane, but why make them so op in the first place.
Second nerfGÇï - fine, they still mined above 200 per hour
But now you want them to yied as much as 3 exhumers and even less.
Are you goddamn ********?
P.S: On a positive note. The respawn anoms timers is a great idea. Limiting imba mining by huge groups like Goons. You should just have kept the change limited to it.
"Now you want them to yield as much as 3 Exhumers"????
Have you sparced the yields at all Napalm? Current Rorqual with a Tank heavy fit yield as much as 2 Exhumer.... if you sacrifice tank for yield then you may get 3 - 3.5 Hulk yields.... this new nerf CCP is planning will lower the yield even more.... so if you want to live through a hot drop and you fit your Rorqual with a tank fit.... your new yields may be equal to a single hulk after this "Correction" by CCP |
Yazor
We Are Down Syndrome
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2017.06.02 18:34:50 -
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I'm getting a kick out of how some people think the Rorqual is responsible for the mineral market "tankage". To be fair the initial change to the Rorqual to a Mining ship was OP.... but those of us who have been in the industry of Mining massively to build massive amounts of Capital Ships have seen the Mineral Prices in decline long before the introduction of the "Mining on Grid" Rorqual.
Since the last "Nerf" to the Rorqual.... lets recap.... It slowed the Excavator drone down, and they spread the anon belts out further.... this slowed the Churning and Burning Rorquals were able to do while "OP". Since that change the Mineral Market is back to a slower decline in values.... roughly the same rate it was before they introduced the "Mining on Grid" Rorqual.
To further nerf now is simply to make Rorquals obsolete.
We were able to offer our coalition mates good deals on capitals for a short time... offering Carrier Hulls at 900 million and Dread Hulls at 1 Billion.... soon it will be back to tourist prices on these ships. CCP will price the market out of range just to eat up all that "To Much Isk in the Game" stuff....
So much for "Player Driven" Sandbox...
I see this change like Trump.... Oh the ObamaRorqualcare is bad, lets repeal and replace with TrumpRorqualcare.... prices will go down on costs... who cares about pre existing conditions...
The mineral market will continue to decline in values, granted slower with these changes but they will still go down, 70% of Eve Online players are Miners/Indy people.... there are simply too many people shooting lasers in one form or another on asteroids in Eve. The only way to slow it will like when they introduced the Drone Lands years ago.... market values on minerals went up for a time due to so many moving into an starting up in that Vastness of space.... CCP will not introduce more space as there is already to many empty systems that the Power Blocks control.... denying the small indy corp from using it unless they pay homage either in combat servitude or in Isk.... so these systems stay empty... so many small indy corps remain in Empire....
With the new Moon changes coming I bet the Power Blocks work agreements with the Miner Corps, we'll give you rent free and protection in said system so long as you mine that R65 moon for us.... dont try to cheat us on it as CCP included a parcer so we know who mined what!
We may have actually reached the end of Eve Online now, they have been packaging the game up nicely for some time... changed Aurum to Mini Plex, the actual introduction of Mini Plex.... packaged up nicely to sell to someone else... Only thing missing now is the Pay to Win feature in the cash shop.... some of us took years to skill up... oh wait, you can buy injectors now....?
Maybe we'll get lucky gang and someone will have an Eve Online Emulator out there and keep it "Classic Eve Online"
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Yazor
We Are Down Syndrome
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2017.06.02 18:55:59 -
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Afropty wrote:I think all comments usessless because CCP already make the CALL the change will be made it June 13
Your right, best thing that can happen now is people cancel subscription and boycott for a month. |
Yazor
We Are Down Syndrome
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Posted - 2017.06.02 20:28:09 -
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"Winter is Coming" to Eve Online...
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Yazor
We Are Down Syndrome
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Posted - 2017.06.03 02:17:06 -
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There is no point in offering suggestions to CCP in hopes of changing there minds.... this was not a post from Fozzie asking us what we though about it... they could careless what you or I think about it.... This was a post to inform us that this change is going live soon... this is already done on SiSi
Its going to happen. Sell your Rorquals, extract the skills... buy some Hulks and toss an alt into a Porpoise.
Hulk = Capital Mining ship now...
Rorqual = Capital waste of Skill Points and time... and if you bought plex's to sell to buy skill injectors to get into the Rorqual... a waste of RL money too... but hey thanks for coming out...
New Yields on Rorqual may prove to be equal to a boosted Hulk, assuming you tank fit your Rorqual.
No Brainer peeps... Hulk = 500 billion with decent fit, Rorqual 12-15 billion....
Game Over, we lost....
"Winter has Come" |
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