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Templer Relleg Exit 13 Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.16 06:42:00 - [31] I dont see that BOB fall just yet.
Jonaswpl Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 06:47:00 - [32] DUDE! Its a malediction! ♥ Karma Police "I'll tell you why the frack you didn't get EVE Voice; because TS/Vent is free."
fightnkill Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.16 07:00:00 - [33] Edited by: fightnkill on 16/05/2007 07:00:09 With the ways are atm, I think RA-Goons will become winners in the end. Even thou the Coalition is losing the war against BoB, that fact alone is actually systemetically making Ragoons stronger. Coz think it like this. You lost the war, you were kicked off from your space you earned it by working hard, and your enemy is taunting you. Would you A) Support the enemy despite the fact that he destroyed the things you earned so hard B) Support the enemy's enemy? C) Quit Eve most people will choose between Option B and C. As well, Time is BoB's enemy at this stage. Here's some facts bout Goonswarm and their Quality (Their Quantity always remain high) August 2006 - Mostly Frig Sept 2006 - Frig, destroyer, cruisers, few BS Jan 2007 - T1 & T2/T2fitted frigs, destroyers, cruisers, BS, and Few dreads & Carriers May 2007 - A lot of dreads, Carriers, t2 fitted BS. and my predications may be July 2007 - First Goonswarm Titan? Jan 2008 - Average GS member is very close to Average BoB members in terms of quality, organization, and efficiency. Even with the current level of Quality, organization, and effiency for GS. BoB is still taking GS as a serious threat and a match to their strength. Time + Support from defeated allies = big advantage for GS. looking back in Eve History, BoB/BoB corps were in the same position GS is in now (Fighting BS with Frig swarm). Come to think of it, BoB/RKK invented Frig swarm?
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.16 07:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Gnulpie BoB likes to fight, the more the better. Burning skies! Exploding ships! Fighting against all odds! (always wanted to use that emoticon... and here you give me a chance)
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.16 07:22:00 - [35] Edited by: slothe on 16/05/2007 07:20:37 Originally by: fightnkillWith the ways are atm, I think RA-Goons will become winners in the end. Even thou the Coalition is losing the war against BoB, that fact alone is actually systemetically making Ragoons stronger. dont know how you could come to this conclusion tbh. The only things that will kill bob will be.. 1. boredom due to lack of targets (possible if they become too strong) 2. internal dispute (possible due to strong conflicting personalities)
Sextus Licinius Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.05.16 07:31:00 - [36] cute, EVE is finnaly transforming into a 3D space chess game. Pretty soon when most pilots will own cap ships and systems can't accomodate more than 600 ships fighting there will be new behemoth ships shooting stink assmageddon bombs several systems away with system-wide effect. The EVE fast food culture era is here, rejoice! "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
mamolian M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.05.16 07:34:00 - [37] Edited by: mamolian on 16/05/2007 07:33:11 Thorrk get down off your high malidiction! As for the topic, Goons doing some fancy purchases on high sp chars with dreads and other caps trained? -------------------------------
Drilla Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 07:41:00 - [38] Edited by: Drilla on 16/05/2007 07:39:49 Originally by: fightnkill Jan 2008 - Average GS member is very close to Average BoB members in terms of quality, organization, and efficiency. Try 2015 Being new to BoB I can honestly tell you goons will never reach the organization BoB has nor quality or efficiency. But their strategy isn't to be efficient or to have quality organization, their strategy is quantity and the idea that quantity solves any quality, organization and efficiency problems/drawbacks you have.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 07:43:00 - [39] Back to topic. The end of BOB is closer with Mr Drilla the Jinx in our ranks me, myself and I ------>
Indiano Arko Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.16 08:04:00 - [40] EVE is big. Goonswarm is not the only alliance out there (I also don't think that they so easily scattered... but whatever you like to think).
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 08:08:00 - [41] Edited by: fire 59 on 16/05/2007 08:06:19 Couldn't you have added this op to one of the existing 'the end of bob threads' , no real need to keep rehashing the same subject with the same contxt over and over BoB vs the coalition of family values
Abn Matar Minmatar Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.16 08:24:00 - [42] Edited by: Abn Matar on 16/05/2007 08:23:32 Edited by: Abn Matar on 16/05/2007 08:22:59 Originally by: Drilla Being new to BoB I can honestly tell you goons will never reach the organization BoB has nor quality or efficiency. Nor the arrogance that members of certain alliance field.
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2007.05.16 08:38:00 - [43] I think the OP is spot on. The day bob members get bored and leave the game is the end of bob. Another possible ending is that the servers close down. But in the end, they are destined to fail no matter what!!! King Liu is RIGHT!!
Zhajad Khalud The Red Rage	Posted - 2007.05.16 08:39:00 - [44] Originally by: fightnkill Jan 2008 - Average GS member is very close to Average BoB members in terms of quality, organization, and efficiency. Erm, no. Those exact three points are what made BoB so successful against the other old alliances. Goons would need to improve a lot more than simply getting more sp/experience in the game for that.
HC MasiEEE Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 09:14:00 - [45] ________________________ HC MasiEEE - DICE
Aut Nihil Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.16 09:26:00 - [46] Edited by: Aut Nihil on 16/05/2007 09:24:54 Originally by: Gnulpie I don't understand the people like Blacklight or Tyrrax. I have the same right to post my thoughts here about corps and alliances as you! And contrary to many other posters I try to set up an argumentation so that if you care and disagree with my conclusions you are welcome to point out what you think are flaws in the argument. Writing down that you do not care about my post and that it is irrelevant to the comminuty is stupid and arrogant. Stupid because your reply here clearly contradicts yourself because if you really wouldn't care you wouldn't post in here. And arrogant because you think you are talking for 'the' community. But you are only one person, not the whole community, and maybe you lead a big alliance or have large capfleet battles, but that doesn't make you in any way more important or a better person! If you have nothing constructive to say, don't post and do not troll around instead! Yes, you have the right to state your thoughts and opinion. But not if 14525778699523456345 people have moaned about the exact same thing you are stating here before you. Yes we know BoB want all of 0.0, but there will ALWAYS be something or someone left to fight. Edit: Typos
Iasius Warp Angels	Posted - 2007.05.16 09:27:00 - [47] Edited by: Iasius on 16/05/2007 09:26:19 Its nice to see the swinging ***s of 0.0 get it on. As for ccp making our hair go white with stress from lag i suggest CCP devs be put in a dark room with a randy poodle. When i was in LV defending Tenerifis months ago i was not playing eve we was playing some weird lag thing. When will lag be sorted? taps fingers on desk* ................................................ I post with my main, so should you. Alt's are hecklers
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 09:45:00 - [48] Do you really think we haven't thought about what we would do after we conquer all of 0.0? We would build in it, of course. We'll pave the gate superhighways with POS, milestones so to speak, and litter the landscape with stations and outposts to serve as cultural melting pots. We would create our own missions, and have people do them for a reward. We shall establish learning centres for diverse topics such as history, business and economics, military strategy. When every system has been fully developed, or even before that, we would stage regular gladiatorial matches in the center of our great empire. Foreign emissaries would visit bringing gifts, tribute and slave dancers. Fatted calves would be slaughtered and roasted and everyone shall feast in celebration of the glory of our empire. And then at the sunset of the day, we shall stand upon the great heights of our majestic palace and survey all that can be seen for miles around. The people below shall be cheering us on like schoolgirls in a boyband concert. We shall look upon all that we have achieved and say: "now would be a great time for evening tea and crumpets". With that, the crowd below shall go wild, fireworks shall be lit, the streets shall be filled with music and dancing until the evening. When sleep comes, we shall dream about the glory of our empire until the wee hours of the morning. Then it shall begin anew. BTW, nice Malediction there Thyrrax. I didn't know they also came in black.
Chirinako Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:00:00 - [49] Yes, Bob are indeed going to perish because the whole 20,000 players from the coalition are actually going to disappear into thin air or turn PRO-Bob.
Weaponmaster	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:07:00 - [50] Originally by: Rebellion Do you really think we haven't thought about what we would do after we conquer all of 0.0? We would build in it, of course. We'll pave the gate superhighways with POS, milestones so to speak, and litter the landscape with stations and outposts to serve as cultural melting pots. We would create our own missions, and have people do them for a reward. We shall establish learning centres for diverse topics such as history, business and economics, military strategy. When every system has been fully developed, or even before that, we would stage regular gladiatorial matches in the center of our great empire. Foreign emissaries would visit bringing gifts, tribute and slave dancers. Fatted calves would be slaughtered and roasted and everyone shall feast in celebration of the glory of our empire. And then at the sunset of the day, we shall stand upon the great heights of our majestic palace and survey all that can be seen for miles around. The people below shall be cheering us on like schoolgirls in a boyband concert. We shall look upon all that we have achieved and say: "now would be a great time for evening tea and crumpets". With that, the crowd below shall go wild, fireworks shall be lit, the streets shall be filled with music and dancing until the evening. When sleep comes, we shall dream about the glory of our empire until the wee hours of the morning. Then it shall begin anew. BTW, nice Malediction there Thyrrax. I didn't know they also came in black. To paraphrase, they are going to carebear in style and the old fashioned way, they earned it.
Zzleeper Amarr levisomnus spectatrix	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:19:00 - [51] Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 16/05/2007 07:39:49 Originally by: fightnkill Jan 2008 - Average GS member is very close to Average BoB members in terms of quality, organization, and efficiency. Try 2015 Being new to BoB I can honestly tell you goons will never reach the organization BoB has nor quality or efficiency. But their strategy isn't to be efficient or to have quality organization, their strategy is quantity and the idea that quantity solves any quality, organization and efficiency problems/drawbacks you have. 2015 loooool Goons have already surpassed BOD and i dont recall goons getting caught with their hands in the T2 cookie jar Yes you are too new to comment, without the T2 cookie jar, BOD wouldnt be where they are now, i would suggest safety helmets, wouldnt like to see you get hurt when you eventually crash! Cheaters never prosper! (only in EVE it seems) Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Scyd ([email protected])
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:23:00 - [52] Originally by: Zzleeper Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 16/05/2007 07:39:49 Originally by: fightnkill Jan 2008 - Average GS member is very close to Average BoB members in terms of quality, organization, and efficiency. Try 2015 Being new to BoB I can honestly tell you goons will never reach the organization BoB has nor quality or efficiency. But their strategy isn't to be efficient or to have quality organization, their strategy is quantity and the idea that quantity solves any quality, organization and efficiency problems/drawbacks you have. 2015 loooool Goons have already surpassed BOD and i dont recall goons getting caught with their hands in the T2 cookie jar Yes you are too new to comment, without the T2 cookie jar, BOD wouldnt be where they are now, i would suggest safety helmets, wouldnt like to see you get hurt when you eventually crash! Because you know, if not for that Sabre BPO, BoB would be cowering in fear as the mighty armies of the Coalition took over Delve. If only they had one Sabre BPO, just one, the tide of the war might have been turned. What a shame! --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Zzleeper Amarr levisomnus spectatrix	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:33:00 - [53] Originally by: Dark Shikari Because you know, if not for that Sabre BPO, BoB would be cowering in fear as the mighty armies of the Coalition took over Delve. If only they had one Sabre BPO, just one, the tide of the war might have been turned. What a shame! haha, fight from within, learn from thy enemy, i have mine in BOD Cheaters never prosper! (only in EVE it seems) Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Scyd ([email protected])
Nilit Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:36:00 - [54] Originally by: Zzleeper 2015 loooool Goons have already surpassed BOD and i dont recall goons getting caught with their hands in the T2 cookie jar Yes you are too new to comment, without the T2 cookie jar, BOD wouldnt be where they are now, i would suggest safety helmets, wouldnt like to see you get hurt when you eventually crash! I distinctly remember having had to mine a lot in 2004 during GNW times, so we could buy a lot of these T2 BPOs. Was a good investment of time AFAIK The will to win is stronger than the fear of death
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:43:00 - [55] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Lister Black Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Read my edit, noob. Bah, edits schmedits. My point still stands. IT'S NOT A MALEDICTION, COME BACK WHEN YOU WERE PLAYING EVE IN 2003 OK To be honest, the Crusader definitely outdoes the Malediction when it comes to style. Although I must say the silver paint on the Malediction surely makes it somehow look like a certain magnate that flew around a while ago. - -
Redbad Minmatar Be Inspired Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:45:00 - [56] Originally by: Gnulpie I don't understand the people like Blacklight or Tyrrax. I have the same right to post my thoughts here about corps and alliances as you! And contrary to many other posters I try to set up an argumentation so that if you care and disagree with my conclusions you are welcome to point out what you think are flaws in the argument. Writing down that you do not care about my post and that it is irrelevant to the comminuty is stupid and arrogant. Stupid because your reply here clearly contradicts yourself because if you really wouldn't care you wouldn't post in here. And arrogant because you think you are talking for 'the' community. But you are only one person, not the whole community, and maybe you lead a big alliance or have large capfleet battles, but that doesn't make you in any way more important or a better person! If you have nothing constructive to say, don't post and do not troll around instead! You have that right to post your thoughts! I fully support that right Gnulpie, but understand that this subject is higly volatile material. Using common sense stating your opinion and place your mind one step past the hype is highly recommended. They way you state your opinion is grasping to a single happening to state your opinion to the entire war and outcome. Doing that isn't very diplomatic and might be understood by many entities in this game as lack of constructive judment alone, and sadly I have to say, including me. The future is not ours to see, only to experience if we are given the time. I would suggest you proclaim your thoughts carefully on these forums with more tact and diplomatic feeling. RB join us today!
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:46:00 - [57] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Lister Black Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Read my edit, noob. Bah, edits schmedits. My point still stands. IT'S NOT A MALEDICTION, COME BACK WHEN YOU WERE PLAYING EVE IN 2003 OK To be honest, the Crusader definitely outdoes the Malediction when it comes to style. Although I must say the silver paint on the Malediction surely makes it somehow look like a certain magnate that flew around a while ago. Tyrrax will never live that down will he? --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:49:00 - [58] I dount know if I should be more surprised at the quality this thread or at the fact nobody posted that its a Templar...... -- Billion Isk Mission
Virida Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.05.16 10:49:00 - [59] Edited by: Virida on 16/05/2007 10:53:07 Edited by: Virida on 16/05/2007 10:48:10 Bob is not the problem, gamers love to play, and bob is just one of the best groups in eve at the moment. The size of EVE is the problem. When a game as EVE reach so large a size with no shards, the sheer SIZE of it brings in problems. The sociology of numbers tells about what sizes of groups who is most fun for gamers, and eve dont confirm to anything whatsoever at the moment, we got a game where the least effective group size grows, and fighting bob in a sane way, simply is barely "fun", in any shape. Result is bob grows in power, and get less fun. The policy of no shards lead to huge groups the size of brigades in real life, with little sense to what is "fun". Dunbar's number is not the issue, it can be overcomed, the issue it is less fun being ant number 2056 attacking wasp number 4512 in one of the 3-4 player run kingdoms, than being one of 50 or 120 in a small scale pvp game. Its still fun, just less fun. In a smaller game, its also simpler to try MAKE a rival to bob. In this game, making a good oposition to bob is like founding a pyramid sceme, needing to be a agitator, general, skills of a real life CEO and a orator prodigy.
Crux Australis Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 11:56:00 - [60] The very minute in which you start doing something, you are already waiting for its end, such is life ! WHat matters here is, since we are speking of a game, if you are having fun in the time between the beginning and the end. I, for one, am still having fun (even if there are many things in today's warfare that make me look with nostalgy at Castor EvE)! I hope that the fun will last for long ! Originally by: Tuxford Sure play gallente and caldari if you like, just don't be upset when I waste your ass in a hurricane.

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