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Clavain Gobuchul
Minmatar
Dragon Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:40:00 -
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A friend of mine did the beta for a while, which means I got to see 1 incarnation of it a while back.
Basically I thought it was awful. I had an interest in naval combat of the period and it was not even realistic, and very 'arcady' in feel. He stopped playing it after a while, which says it all really.
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Anatolius
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Clavain Gobuchul
A friend of mine did the beta for a while, which means I got to see 1 incarnation of it a while back.
Basically I thought it was awful. I had an interest in naval combat of the period and it was not even realistic, and very 'arcady' in feel. He stopped playing it after a while, which says it all really.
That's unsurprising. Face it, we're never going to see a game with actual age of sail mechanics. God forbid some bleedin' n00b misses stays. 
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Peter Armstrong
Caldari
5punkorp
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:08:00 -
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I think people need to give this game a chance. I looking foreward to the game. Its not going to be a 1337 game at first but it will grow and adjust.
Remember when EVE first came out and compared to now?
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Admiral Pieg
Confederation of Red Moon
Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Torm Ilmater
First of the server doesn't reset everyday they've said they'll only reset it when one country (including the pirates as a 'country') own the vast majority of the conquerable ports (something like 140 of those). They had to implement something like this because they aren't going to be manually balancing the countries player numbers. From what I've seen on the PotBS forums around 60-70% of the playerbase will be Pirates or English which leaves the Spanish and especially the French at a numerical disadvantage.
I almost prefer the more dynamic port system to EVE simply because in EVE the major powers change very slowly (if at all).
I'd like to hope that PotBS strikes a good middle ground between EVE and the mainstream gamer audience.
This is the dumbest thing ive read for a while. How can you even begin to compare static content in a game like potbs to a conquered region in a game like eve?
Do you have any idea how much work is required (logistic and pvp) to take a region or even raise a single outpost in eve? Ofcourse the major powers shift slowly.. it shouldnt take anyone a week or even a month to take a region with 18 outposts considering the work put into them, but it DOES Happen.
And when you take a region the rewards are grand. You can expand your empire or you can gain new allies by letting them settle in that region or you can sell said region back to whoever you took it from. You sound like someone that hasnt lived in 0.0 for more then a week.
In potbs, you pve with a bunch of strangers for the ability to pvp so that you can take a static port that gives you generic and nonsensical rewards. What a freakin scam. Its as if the devs expect people to take a port for the benefit of their faction. Thats like going out of your way in wow to do something good for "the horde". 
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:11:00 -
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I can confirm this game is terrible. I had high hopes to find another game like Eve but with less lag and bugs, but this game is nothing like it and really the gameplay is boring and repttive as hell, and the PvP is all instanced. Truely disappointing.
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Caol
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Caol on 16/05/2007 14:16:44
If you get on a scoreboard for how many times you were on the side that won (ie. forced the opposition to sign the treaty) then I could see people playing it. But like you said Jim, would just be a big glorified game of BF1942.
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Vantoth
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Vantoth on 16/05/2007 14:32:07
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Its as if the devs expect people to take a port for the benefit of their faction. Thats like going out of your way in wow to do something good for "the horde".
And what do you take a PoS in EvE for? personal satisfatioon? no, you take it for the benefit of your Corp. Same damn thing if you ask me. Faction = Corp in that game.
As for the folks that "Have been assured" the game is the suxxor. You've been assured by whom? Friends in beta? so you going by the word of someone who can't keep to the non disclouser agreement. Yeah there is a reliable source. If you have not played beta then YOU do not know and if you have and are talking about it here shame on you for breaking NDA. You are going by the word of someone else, by thier opinion and every one knows opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one and the only one that does not stink is your own.
I like playing EvE a lot. I have had more fun here in this game than I have in many others recently. But I never pre judge a game unless I get to actually play it. As for the ohnoes they reset the game every day. Nope, they will not reset the port factions until one faction/nation holds the majority say more than 75% of the ports.
Just wondering what would happen to EvE if, God forbid BoB or someone other large allience were to say merge with another large allience and take over 75 to 80% or more of 0.0. No one would stand a chance and they would most likely take over the rest and leave only empire for the rest of us. What would happen to the game then? Either the allience would fall apart, or every one who wanted to go to 0.0 would have to join it. Bet the subs would start dropping pretty fast. I wonder what would happen to restore balance, or at least make the game enjoyable for folks not in the Uber allience.
Oh, devs just wondering what are the rules for someo ne using a Copy written name in this game?
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Admiral Pieg
Confederation of Red Moon
Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Vantoth
Edited by: Vantoth on 16/05/2007 14:32:07
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Its as if the devs expect people to take a port for the benefit of their faction. Thats like going out of your way in wow to do something good for "the horde".
And what do you take a PoS in EvE for? personal satisfatioon? no, you take it for the benefit of your Corp. Same damn thing if you ask me. Faction = Corp in that game.
The fact that you compare a preset faction that anyone and everyone can join to a corp built by players from scratch tells me youre nothing but a potbs fanboy here for trolling purposes. A more accurate comparison would be factions in potbs = factions in wow. And if you had actually read my post, you would see that i explain why one would go through the trouble of taking an outpost in eve.
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Clavain Gobuchul
Minmatar
Dragon Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vantoth
Edited by: Vantoth on 16/05/2007 14:32:07
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Its as if the devs expect people to take a port for the benefit of their faction. Thats like going out of your way in wow to do something good for "the horde".
And what do you take a PoS in EvE for? personal satisfatioon? no, you take it for the benefit of your Corp. Same damn thing if you ask me. Faction = Corp in that game.
As for the folks that "Have been assured" the game is the suxxor. You've been assured by whom? Friends in beta? so you going by the word of someone who can't keep to the non disclouser agreement. Yeah there is a reliable source. If you have not played beta then YOU do not know and if you have and are talking about it here shame on you for breaking NDA. You are going by the word of someone else, by thier opinion and every one knows opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one and the only one that does not stink is your own.
I like playing EvE a lot. I have had more fun here in this game than I have in many others recently. But I never pre judge a game unless I get to actually play it. As for the ohnoes they reset the game every day. Nope, they will not reset the port factions until one faction/nation holds the majority say more than 75% of the ports.
Just wondering what would happen to EvE if, God forbid BoB or someone other large allience were to say merge with another large allience and take over 75 to 80% or more of 0.0. No one would stand a chance and they would most likely take over the rest and leave only empire for the rest of us. What would happen to the game then? Either the allience would fall apart, or every one who wanted to go to 0.0 would have to join it. Bet the subs would start dropping pretty fast. I wonder what would happen to restore balance, or at least make the game enjoyable for folks not in the Uber allience.
Oh, devs just wondering what are the rules for someo ne using a Copy written name in this game?
Talk about a lump of coal turning into a diamond... 
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: DiuxDium
The only other game currently slated that looks interesting is Warhammer online.
That will be my "Counterstrike" of MMO's when Eve becomes...tiring?
A Warhammer 40K MMO is supposedly in developement.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Susan Acid
Originally by: DiuxDium
The only other game currently slated that looks interesting is Warhammer online.
That will be my "Counterstrike" of MMO's when Eve becomes...tiring?
A Warhammer 40K MMO is supposedly in developement.
/me drools
Who's got the contract to do it?
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:53:00 -
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it'll be ****.
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Susan Acid on 16/05/2007 14:56:27
Originally by: Janu Hull
Originally by: Susan Acid
Originally by: DiuxDium
The only other game currently slated that looks interesting is Warhammer online.
That will be my "Counterstrike" of MMO's when Eve becomes...tiring?
A Warhammer 40K MMO is supposedly in developement.
/me drools
Who's got the contract to do it?
http://www.thq-games.com/uk/news/show/1759?genre=0&platform=0&game=0
*sorry,can't link it
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.16 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 16/05/2007 15:03:26
Edited by: ry ry on 16/05/2007 15:02:07
THQ are publishing, relic vigil studios developing.
vigil did some work on Exarch, which was never released. According to their website they currently have 2 games in development - warhammer 40k and an untitled project.
According to some extremely old sources, their first title is to be released in '08 so i assume that was a tentative release date for the 40k mmo. expect to see it in 2010.
doomed!
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Godar Marak
Amarr
Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.16 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Sea pvp looks disappointing
Then again people cant simply warp off in potbs. Nor do they have Red alliance...yet.
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Emo Jelli
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Posted - 2007.05.16 15:08:00 -
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Why has this thread not yet been moved to 'Out of Pod Experience'?
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Captain Neutron
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.16 15:13:00 -
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As far as waiting for another decent MMORPG to come out...I'm patiently holding out for "Age of Conan." Hopefully it'll be as cool as it looks.
And if it comes out on schedule it'll be right when my 6 months of EvE is up. So we'll see where my loyalties lie.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.16 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 16/05/2007 15:11:27
Originally by: "emu jelli"
Why has this thread not yet been moved to 'Out of Pod Experience'?
why do you care so much about forum maintenance?
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Emo Jelli
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Posted - 2007.05.16 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
Edited by: ry ry on 16/05/2007 15:11:27
Originally by: "emu jelli"
Why has this thread not yet been moved to 'Out of Pod Experience'?
why do you care so much about forum maintenance?
So are you in favour of forum anarchy then as well as altering quotes?
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Torm Ilmater
No Quarter.
Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pieg
You sound like someone that hasnt lived in 0.0 for more then a week.
Actually I've been in 0.0 since about a month after I started playing EVE years ago.
The reason I "almost prefer" (exact quote from my post) the PotBS system is that it's all designed around shorter PvP engagements. Action is more fluid and there's no equivalent to POS spamming or Titan DDD's.
If I had to compare the PotBS pvp concept to another game the choice I'd probably make would be Planetside rather than WoW or EVE. EVE will likely come into the discussion however simply because they're both games designed around the concept of ship-to-ship combat. I played Planetside for 2 1/2 years and I enjoyed it quite a bit (before the server populations went down the toilet) and I'd very much like a ligher PvP oriented game to be the Yin to my Yang (EVE with it's serious almost-work at times feel).
Given that I typically play two MMO's at any given time I don't see PotBS as an 'either/or' situation when comparing it to EVE it's just something I can hop onto when I need a change of pace.
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