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Dasmallredboat
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.06.06 16:21:53 -
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i want to send some small but valueable items through highsec via autopilot.
is there any ship that can fit a stronger passive tank than a bricked freighter has?
i'm looking for ehp only, not shield recharge |
BRONY VICTOR
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.06.06 16:23:33 -
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probably proteus until it gets ne...rebalanced |
Eleanor Roscommon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2017.06.06 21:29:40 -
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How much is small stuff? |
AgentFruitfly
FlyinPenguin Enterprises
2
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Posted - 2017.06.06 21:51:54 -
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does damnation still get 300-500k ehp? |
Wendell Stamps
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.06.06 22:02:15 -
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Haulers Channel tank is impenetrable. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
3024
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Posted - 2017.06.06 22:11:21 -
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600k:
[Orca, tank]
Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pith C-Type EM Ward Field Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Command Burst II, Shield Extension Charge Shield Command Burst II, Shield Harmonizing Charge Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II [Empty High slot]
Large Transverse Bulkhead II Large Transverse Bulkhead II Large Transverse Bulkhead II
327, overheats to 500k:
[Damnation, tank]
1600mm Steel Plates II 1600mm Steel Plates II Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermal Hardener Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
[Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot]
[Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
327k, 500k overheated:
[Proteus, tank]
1600mm Steel Plates II 1600mm Steel Plates II Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermal Hardener 1600mm Steel Plates II
[Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot]
[Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
134k, overheats to 416k:
[Impel, full tank]
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermal Hardener Syndicate Damage Control Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
[Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot]
[Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
So.... options. |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
3148
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Posted - 2017.06.06 23:17:00 -
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probably better off using a instawarp + warp speed fit interceptor and just manually doing it, or setting up a courier contract.
passive buffer orca 470k passive buffer bowhead 550k passive proteus 300k+ passive obelisk 499k
damnation is probably another option, but cba to check it
selling officer BCUs! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6872141
@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
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Muffinmixer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.07 15:43:48 -
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Get a sub-1s align Hecate for high/low-sec ferrying of small volumes (>450 m3): Put in Propulsion Mode, get 4 Domination istabs in the lows and a 5% agility hardwiring in slot 7. Make sure you have Evasive Maneuvering and Spaceship Command both at V.
This thing doesn't get a massive 500k+ ehp tank but you cannot physically shoot it, point it, or shipscan it. The only things that can touch this ship are smartbombs, doomsdays, and bubbles. And also pilot error, naturally. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
3025
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Posted - 2017.06.07 21:13:53 -
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Muffinmixer wrote:Get a sub-1s align Hecate for high/low-sec ferrying of small volumes (>450 m3): Put in Propulsion Mode, get 4 Domination istabs in the lows and a 5% agility hardwiring in slot 7. Make sure you have Evasive Maneuvering and Spaceship Command both at V.
This thing doesn't get a massive 500k+ ehp tank but you cannot physically shoot it, point it, or shipscan it. The only things that can touch this ship are smartbombs, doomsdays, and bubbles. And also pilot error, naturally.
Four Dominations won't do it, even with a 5% implant. 5% plus two SS plus two T2 does the trick. Leaves three rig slots for HVOs. Mids can fit a decent shield tank in case of smartbombs. Pretty much love this for a quick courier:
[Hecate, courier]
Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers Inertial Stabilizers II Inertial Stabilizers II
Medium Shield Extender II Medium Shield Extender II Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
[Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II |
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
1280
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Posted - 2017.06.08 03:05:58 -
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Dasmallredboat wrote:i want to send some small but valueable items through highsec via autopilot.
Autopilot is always a nono. You WILL get ganked.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
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ValentinaDLM
Khushakor Clan Of Questionable Repute
977
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Posted - 2017.06.08 20:11:07 -
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I would use something like this:
[Viator, nadoproof] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender EM Ward Amplifier II EM Ward Amplifier II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II [empty high slot]
Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Medium Transverse Bulkhead II
only 41K EHP before any implants are added, but it can warp while cloaked, and cannot be cargo scanned so instead of a bunch of catalysts, you only really have to worry about nados on the undock, a Nado can only do about 12K alpha with max everything, so you would need at least 4 nados willing to take a chance on a hauler that might well be empty. On top of that, if you use instadock and instaundock bookmarks which you really ought to, there should never be a chance to lock you anyways.
If you want to autopilot in something brick tanked, if it is worth ganking, it will be ganked, just actively pilot a blockade runner or actively pilot a DST with the cloak/MWD setup. |
Tam Arai
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2017.06.10 16:34:32 -
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so you want to do the stupidest, most dangerous thing in the smartest, safest way possible? |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
3189
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Posted - 2017.06.11 03:06:55 -
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Tam Arai wrote:so you want to do the stupidest, most dangerous thing in the smartest, safest way possible? it really is quite silly isn't it
@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
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Ragnar Danskjold
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2017.06.11 05:52:30 -
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Tam Arai wrote:so you want to do the stupidest, most dangerous thing in the smartest, safest way possible? Yeah didn't you guys just lose a ten bil freighter? |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
1260
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Posted - 2017.06.11 14:08:09 -
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Freighter ganks prove the folly of the single larger shipment idea especially if you are going to autopilot. Multiple ships that are faster to align and have faster non-warp speeds carrying smaller loads are a much better idea since they reduce the risks of a single ship being caught and even if one is the many smaller loads minimizes the losses.
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Dimitrios Bekas
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
30
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Posted - 2017.06.12 10:54:00 -
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all you need for a Highsec Instawarp Hecate is "nothing"... Instawarp by default (in speed mode)...
But yeah, sure...put a Inertia Rig in it..."just in Case" :D |
Atomeon
The Scope Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2017.06.12 19:44:27 -
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He asked for PASSIVE Shield tank, So, here it goes.
[Mastodon, Mastodon Passive Shield Tank] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II
Gistum B-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier Gistum B-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier Gistum B-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
[empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
114k EHP, Keep the Mid slots as it is, and if you want warp speed or align time make some changes.
Good luck if you survive your first trip |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
3026
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Posted - 2017.06.12 22:08:02 -
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Dimitrios Bekas wrote:all you need for a Highsec Instawarp Hecate is "nothing"... Instawarp by default (in speed mode)...
But yeah, sure...put a Inertia Rig in it..."just in Case" :D
Aligning in a time period between 1 and 2 seconds is *almost* entirely safe. Aligning in less than 1 second is ENTIRELY safe. There's a difference. |
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
1294
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Posted - 2017.06.13 01:36:02 -
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ValentinaDLM wrote:.....only 41K EHP before any implants are added, but it can warp while cloaked, and cannot be cargo scanned.....
honestly, the scan immunity is quite possibly the single most redundant role bonus in the game.
If a triggerhappy ganker can get a lock on you, they can (and will) point and shoot you.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
3200
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Posted - 2017.06.13 23:42:52 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:ValentinaDLM wrote:.....only 41K EHP before any implants are added, but it can warp while cloaked, and cannot be cargo scanned..... honestly, the scan immunity is quite possibly the single most redundant role bonus in the game. If a triggerhappy ganker can get a lock on you, they can (and will) point and shoot you. except most of the time they wont because they have no idea if you are a profitable target or not. And you can buffer tank a BR to tank 1-2 tornado shots, which is more than most are willing to throw at you. I've tried to bait them a few times and they haven't ever taken a shot at me.
@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3414
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Posted - 2017.06.14 19:11:11 -
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He want to auto-pilot so y'all need to stop putting active hardeners on the fits... |
Atomeon
The Scope Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2017.06.14 19:17:12 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:He want to auto-pilot so y'all need to stop putting active hardeners on the fits... You didnt read my fit, did you? |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
3027
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Posted - 2017.06.14 21:38:56 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:He want to auto-pilot so y'all need to stop putting active hardeners on the fits...
It's more fun this way. |
Radious Servasse
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
176
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Posted - 2017.06.14 22:03:59 -
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Small stuff? Likes less than 10 or 20m3? Interceptor. You can't go wrong, you'll never be caught, and you can't use autopilot safely. (You should never really use autopilot anywhere in eve however unless you don't care about loosing your ship) |
Sarah Vanessa
Sneaked In Circle-Of-Two
1
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Posted - 2017.07.05 05:29:49 -
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Rattlesnake is still Awesome for Tank much Shields Good Resistances |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
1274
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Posted - 2017.07.05 14:01:22 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:honestly, the scan immunity is quite possibly the single most redundant role bonus in the game. Not true. Scan immunity is not based on having a cloak active it is a role bonus and they cannot be cargo scanned even if they are not cloaked. This may or may not be helpful depending on the circumstances but the momentary indecision it causes for some players has proven to be an advantage to me on more than one occasion. |
LaraJade Cotton
The House of Asterion
7
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Posted - 2017.07.05 14:25:46 -
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What would be the value?
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