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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
456
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Posted - 2017.06.07 23:07:54 -
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Fight back. Hire someone else asap. Eve is Eve. Become better. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
21523
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Posted - 2017.06.07 23:21:30 -
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https://imgur.com/mej2mKI
Murderers of Negotiable Motivations
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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
456
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Posted - 2017.06.07 23:30:10 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:KnightGuard Fury wrote:why do you guys perma dec people for little to no reason? my other corp has been decked for a few weeks now and its annoying because we have things we want to get done, stuff we need to transfer ownership to etc.
especially when your not even killing us or messing with anything of ours... there's not much of a point except wasting our time. We've been on the recieving end of many of these wardecs and they've all been dropped one after the other. As best we can work out, it is typically multi-boxing setups camping the major tradehubs and their approaches. You need to be careful with them because we have identified numerous neutral alts, whcih, they use to spy on gates. Futhermore, even if you do catch one on their own they will quickly scramble everything to that fight - and they can easily ship up into faction battleships and Lord knows what else. On the rare occasion they do loose a ship you will discover that they are bling fit to buggery - often with fitting costs well in excess of 1 Billion ISK. So taking one of their ships out is a major coup.... The problem is that you probably wont be able to. All this aside. Those corps who do this are often the wost kind of carebear. They love to make easy kills. But as soon as you start hunting them with enough ships on the field to hurt them, they will drop the wardec like a hot potato... In short, they are cowards.
Confirming high sec war drivers are cowards . Come fight and we run as away! |

CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Debitum Naturae Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2017.06.08 00:33:48 -
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You could have some fun by getting your entire corp together in cheap pvp fit ships and going out on a fuckfest on them XD say gf in local if you lose and **** :p would be a fun investment in their time and they might leave you alone if you **** on them |

Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
2309
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Posted - 2017.06.08 02:32:06 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote: So taking one of their ships out is a major coup.... The problem is that you probably wont be able to...
EWAR and cap warfare.......plus numbers.....says you are wrong.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
580
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Posted - 2017.06.08 09:07:21 -
[36] - Quote
Since the mercs have multiple wardecs you can always contact the others involved. Organize, set up a strategy, bait them and have fun. Or pay another merc alliance to deal with them.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
2309
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Posted - 2017.06.08 09:23:44 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Since the mercs have multiple wardecs you can always contact the others involved. Organize, set up a strategy, bait them and have fun. Or pay another merc alliance to deal with them.
^^^^
This.
Never underestimate the power of diplomacy.

Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Cypherous
Cypherous Corporation
251
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Posted - 2017.06.08 11:20:25 -
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KnightGuard Fury wrote:well, their original reason was "join us or get decc'd" but at this point in time they really still have no reason to lol. and if they dec any corps i create im just purposely wasting their isk
i get that they want content but they arent getting it from us.
The cost to dec a corp is cheap, hell most level 4 missions will pay for a wardec or five :P
Or just do what i did, leave corp until they get bored of shooting nobody and then drop the war and move back, just leave an alpha alt to hold the corp :P |

Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
458
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Posted - 2017.06.08 11:23:15 -
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CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:You could have some fun by getting your entire corp together in cheap pvp fit ships and going out on a fuckfest on them XD say gf in local if you lose and **** :p would be a fun investment in their time and they might leave you alone if you **** on them
So true. Fight back and have some fun. |

Ix Method
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
519
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Posted - 2017.06.08 12:17:56 -
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KnightGuard Fury wrote:why do you guys perma dec people for little to no reason? KnightGuard Fury wrote:its annoying because we have things we want to get done, stuff we need to transfer ownership to etc. One of these things is not like the other one. It's quite rare for the wardec system to work as hoped but on the face of it this appears to be one of those occasions.
Travelling at the speed of love.
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gnshadowninja
Back Passage Explorer's Vendetta Mercenary Group
370
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Posted - 2017.06.08 12:55:01 -
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The issue is that your all too lazy to do anythung, you spend the majority of the time whining on the forums or reddit about how were "carebear pvpers", "hub campers", "griefers", "cowards" yet do NOTHING actually ingame.
If were so bad then come fight us, Cavemen alliance did and they won!
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation Circle-Of-Two
235
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Posted - 2017.06.08 13:30:01 -
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KnightGuard Fury wrote:ok to clear some things up:
1. some of my people are pvp'ers and some indy/miners 2. i have not been in the market in a while but have een building things and saving up. 3. we live in a low competition market and everyone and thier mothers are mostly miners/indy/mission runners. 4. our region is MH, the most lack luster region around.
no one has a real reason to hate us whether its me or anyone or thing else. **** all if i know why someone would really dec us besides looking for easy kills or just to annoy us.
Story time.
I am sympathetic to your position since long time ago my corp was facing similar problem. We were high sec mining corp in Caldari high sec, dreaming of becoming local industrial giant some day. Not really looking trouble, minding our own business. Our plans soon were ruined by persistant high sec wardeccing group whom had targeted for no particular reason. We had no idea bout wardec mechanics, no idea how they could find us every day even when we changed systems or how to fight them. One of them were hunting us in legion, a ship that seemed bizarry alien for us but also very squishy (if you check legion attributes it has like 100shield/armor/Hull HP without rigs(?))
We setup a war plan. We were going to ambush that legion! We had 2 destroyers and 1 Moa, cruiser that has so much more hitpoints than puny legion! It was a good plan, perfect plan and we executed it without fail... up until the point we engaged. Even our mighty flagship, that Moa class cruiser we had could not put a dent to legion's armor. We lost the fight almost immidietly and ran away. What could we do now? There was no way we could fight these Guys and if they came to chase us every single day, what could we do? Our future Eve career seemed hopeless and to add salt to the wound, one of the deccers even said we should quit the game cause we are so bad.
Another day running from wardeccers. A Loki is chasing My little t1 trasher around high sec. If he wants to kill Me I Will at least make him work for it. And he does. We make over 20 jumps from Caldari high sec to southern Amarr. This Dude has some kind of hate boner for me. I accidentally warp to low sec Gate. Warning message pops up. Danger! Only way out from here is back through the route I came and the Loki is already in system. Loki lands on gate. I panic and Press jump..
...
Loki does not follow.
That panic jump was propably most inportant decision I made in my early Eve career. Up to this point almost anyone Outside our corp had either tried to kill us or did not care, but in low sec we met people whom - after killing us first of course - soon were teaching us and protecting us. By the time next random wardec landed not only did we know how to defend ourselves, but we also had some veterans willing to back us up. It felt strange to watch our wardeccers run or dock up for exchange as soon as our New friends showed up.
That one low sec jump propelled our corp forward by a mile and also sparked pvp hunger in us. Sure we still built stuff but we were also roaming and now killing things ourselves. This also proved to be surprising good recruitment method. I ENCOURAGE you to go to low sec, to learn and to meet new people. Make friends and allies and train your members to defend themselves. Even if you live hybrid life with one foot in high and other in low, this will help you. Especially when you get seriously into manufacturing. You want someone to be there help defend your citidels after all.
TLDR GO LOW SEC. POWER UP. |

Toxic Yaken
The Dickwad Squad Rote Kapelle
192
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Posted - 2017.06.08 14:48:43 -
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Ro Fenrios wrote:KnightGuard Fury wrote:ok to clear some things up:
1. some of my people are pvp'ers and some indy/miners 2. i have not been in the market in a while but have een building things and saving up. 3. we live in a low competition market and everyone and thier mothers are mostly miners/indy/mission runners. 4. our region is MH, the most lack luster region around.
no one has a real reason to hate us whether its me or anyone or thing else. **** all if i know why someone would really dec us besides looking for easy kills or just to annoy us. Story time. I am sympathetic to your position since long time ago my corp was facing similar problem. We were high sec mining corp in Caldari high sec, dreaming of becoming local industrial giant some day. Not really looking trouble, minding our own business. Our plans soon were ruined by persistant high sec wardeccing group whom had targeted for no particular reason. We had no idea bout wardec mechanics, no idea how they could find us every day even when we changed systems or how to fight them. One of them were hunting us in legion, a ship that seemed bizarry alien for us but also very squishy (if you check legion attributes it has like 100shield/armor/Hull HP without rigs(?)) We setup a war plan. We were going to ambush that legion! We had 2 destroyers and 1 Moa, cruiser that has so much more hitpoints than puny legion! It was a good plan, perfect plan and we executed it without fail... up until the point we engaged. Even our mighty flagship, that Moa class cruiser we had could not put a dent to legion's armor. We lost the fight almost immidietly and ran away. What could we do now? There was no way we could fight these Guys and if they came to chase us every single day, what could we do? Our future Eve career seemed hopeless and to add salt to the wound, one of the deccers even said we should quit the game cause we are so bad. Another day running from wardeccers. A Loki is chasing My little t1 trasher around high sec. If he wants to kill Me I Will at least make him work for it. And he does. We make over 20 jumps from Caldari high sec to southern Amarr. This Dude has some kind of hate boner for me. I accidentally warp to low sec Gate. Warning message pops up. Danger! Only way out from here is back through the route I came and the Loki is already in system. Loki lands on gate. I panic and Press jump.. ... Loki does not follow. That panic jump was propably most inportant decision I made in my early Eve career. Up to this point almost anyone Outside our corp had either tried to kill us or did not care, but in low sec we met people whom - after killing us first of course - soon were teaching us and protecting us. By the time next random wardec landed not only did we know how to defend ourselves, but we also had some veterans willing to back us up. It felt strange to watch our wardeccers run or dock up for exchange as soon as our New friends showed up. That one low sec jump propelled our corp forward by a mile and also sparked pvp hunger in us. Sure we still built stuff but we were also roaming and now killing things ourselves. This also proved to be surprising good recruitment method. I ENCOURAGE you to go to low sec, to learn and to meet new people. Make friends and allies and train your members to defend themselves. Even if you live hybrid life with one foot in high and other in low, this will help you. Especially when you get seriously into manufacturing. You want someone to be there help defend your citidels after all. TLDR GO LOW SEC. POWER UP.
Is ARMIL recruiting?
Curator of the Wardec Project - Join our Discord to join the discussions about Wardecs
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation Circle-Of-Two
238
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Posted - 2017.06.08 15:27:09 -
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Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
656
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Posted - 2017.06.08 18:01:34 -
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Reasons I've wardecced:
1) I wardecced my own alliance for kicking me out for being an Agent (and a Christian). 2) For interfering with New Order ganking. 3) For refusing to buy permits after being ganked. 4) For being insufficiently respectful after being ganked. 5) For bringing a mining fleet to Kino and refusing to follow the Code. 6) For botting. (These are good ones as finding the mining fleet while under a wardec is like Vikings finding an unguarded English village.) 7) For accepting an anti-ganker as a new member after I warn them not to. 8) For attempting to gank my bumping ship. 9) For putting up a POS without defenses. 10) For being Space Nazi's. (They really exist. Amazing corp bio.) 11) For taking my fittings after a gank. 12) For calling me "insignificant". 13) For the comment "And there's NOTHING you can do about it!". 14) For ganking another New Order Agent. 15) For being Druids. This one was more complicated and related to people who fled my old alliance (see #1).
Before CCP nerfed the Watchlist these were all perfectly good reasons to wardec corps and alliances. I could determine who I felt umbrage against and go after them. I could give them the terms of surrender and they could accept them or have their organization destroyed. Good times.
I see why the wardec corps have to now just wardec the universe and hope somebody screws up. This is what the current situation has led to. If the wardec targets don't like it, well, as others have pointed out, they chose it.
Better were the days when mastery of highsec came not from bargains struck with CCP but from the sweat on a man's keyboard and his mastery of the Watchlist. You all know this to be true!
TLDR: I WANT MAH WATCHLIST!
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Freya Sertan
Amarrian Einherjar
762
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Posted - 2017.06.08 19:04:03 -
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You could, I dunno, try fighting back?
New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.
Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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Kaely Tanniss
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
974
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Posted - 2017.06.09 01:18:57 -
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KnightGuard Fury wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:You're calling them Carebears, but you're the ones not doing what you want to do?
Typical Carebear right there. Too dumb to see how arse backwards they have it. i never said anything about me not being a carebear... i said i cant get much done. i have other ways to deal with getting things done but corp wise i cant. im saying that its just stupid to do this.
And THIS is exactly why you got decced..for them, your inability to conduct business is a tactical win. Just because you don't understand the reason, doesn't mean there is no reason. There's always a reason.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8562
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Posted - 2017.06.09 01:39:37 -
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Best way to deal with it is not to fight them. Blankey highsec deccing is bottom feeding highsec PVP. Imagine gate camping with no risk of BLOPS/Super drops and bubbles. Highsec deccers are in highsec for the same reason their prey is: they can't handle low and null.
(Those that can handle null because their mains are in null are likely too bored out there and need some easy pew)
Fighting back will only garner you more decs because now you have "provided content". So the only thing you can do is deny them that one thing they bothered to care about.
And THAT is Eve after all: winning the game by denying the playing of the game.
Disband the corp or find some other game to sub to.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation Circle-Of-Two
243
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Posted - 2017.06.09 05:35:55 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Best way to deal with it is not to fight them. Blankey highsec deccing is bottom feeding highsec PVP. Imagine gate camping with no risk of BLOPS/Super drops and bubbles. Highsec deccers are in highsec for the same reason their prey is: they can't handle low and null.
(Those that can handle null because their mains are in null are likely too bored out there and need some easy pew)
Fighting back will only garner you more decs because now you have "provided content". So the only thing you can do is deny them that one thing they bothered to care about.
And THAT is Eve after all: winning the game by denying the playing of the game.
Disband the corp or find some other game to sub to.
What if you like your corp or its name? Disbanding or curling up into a ball will get you nowhere. To progress in this game one has to adapt, find solution to obstacles and learn from experience. Especially if these guys are decced by CODE, which is like +û tier threat at best as an wartarget.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8562
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Posted - 2017.06.09 07:32:28 -
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Ro Fenrios wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Best way to deal with it is not to fight them. Blankey highsec deccing is bottom feeding highsec PVP. Imagine gate camping with no risk of BLOPS/Super drops and bubbles. Highsec deccers are in highsec for the same reason their prey is: they can't handle low and null.
(Those that can handle null because their mains are in null are likely too bored out there and need some easy pew)
Fighting back will only garner you more decs because now you have "provided content". So the only thing you can do is deny them that one thing they bothered to care about.
And THAT is Eve after all: winning the game by denying the playing of the game.
Disband the corp or find some other game to sub to. What if you like your corp or its name? Disbanding or curling up into a ball will get you nowhere. To progress in this game one has to adapt, find solution to obstacles and learn from experience. Especially if these guys are decced by CODE, which is like +û tier threat at best as an wartarget.
It's all just space pixels, we are told.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Circle-Of-Two
4397
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Posted - 2017.06.09 09:37:46 -
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I heard Armil is infact recruiting?
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Dracvlad
Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy
3207
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Posted - 2017.06.09 10:59:35 -
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Reasons I have been war decked 1. Because I was spotted webbing an Orca by a CEO who thought I was dumb enough to do it when at war. 2. Because I took out a Ganker POS and people thought I would give content, sadly my fellow players were not interested 3. Because I was in local and Tora decided to go on a mass war dec spree, followed by a CODE war dec two minutes later 4. Because I posted in C&P 5. Ages ago because someone was mining in a system and the guy thought it was a good idea, he regretted it...
Since that time my little stalker tried to get me war decked but the mercs refused because I was not worth it, in other words difficult to catch, don't take stupid risks and am very capable of blowing them up, he seemed to think that telling me that would annoy me, when in fact I knew why I was not war decked.
One of the war decs, I analysed them and then played with them on the Jita undock in their weakest period cutting down their number of kills on the undock to hardly any, they dropped that war dec, though they did tell me it was good resistance which I respected them for that, I was in admiration of their Nestor ball too.
During my war dec after the ganker POS was taken down I had something in space and the POS managed to get two kills on war deckers.
Reasons I have war decked 1. To remove a gankers POS in Niarja, well that was more joining in as allies to remove that POS 2. To get a POCO owner to reduce their tax rate which worked.
Anyway, it depends what you can do in the game, if you can PvP then speak to others that are war decked and work together, use neutral logi killers to take out their neutral RR, if you have no PvP skills and don't have friends then avoid, close corp etc. And for the love of space pixels do not use the pipes, main hubs and main mission hubs...
And a big shout out to Cavemen for showing how it can be done, and a respectful wave at NaturalClonekiller for giving them respect for that.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
149
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Posted - 2017.06.09 11:52:00 -
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Ro Fenrios wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Best way to deal with it is not to fight them. Blankey highsec deccing is bottom feeding highsec PVP. Imagine gate camping with no risk of BLOPS/Super drops and bubbles. Highsec deccers are in highsec for the same reason their prey is: they can't handle low and null.
(Those that can handle null because their mains are in null are likely too bored out there and need some easy pew)
Fighting back will only garner you more decs because now you have "provided content". So the only thing you can do is deny them that one thing they bothered to care about.
And THAT is Eve after all: winning the game by denying the playing of the game.
Disband the corp or find some other game to sub to. What if you like your corp or its name? Disbanding or curling up into a ball will get you nowhere. To progress in this game one has to adapt, find solution to obstacles and learn from experience. Especially if these guys are decced by CODE, which is like +û tier threat at best as an wartarget.
Dude told you why dropping corp, or otherwise dodging the intended distraction is, in his opinion, the best action. You're denying peoples content. (In exactly the same way they wish to deny you yours.)
I'm not knocking EvE's playerbase here, but... let's for a brief moment stop gilding the lilly: People who play this MMO, specifically those playing "da bad gui" in highsec, are not doing it to be someones story about how "getting blown up that first time turned me on to pvp, and the greatness that is the games intricate community'.
No, they're playing specifically, and emphatically, to be a ****. To annoy, and to be a pain in someone else's life, however briefly.
It's a fair argument that the most appropriate counter is to frustrate the people trying to frustrate you, by passively denying them your attention. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Circle-Of-Two
4399
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Posted - 2017.06.09 17:34:58 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote:Ro Fenrios wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Best way to deal with it is not to fight them. Blankey highsec deccing is bottom feeding highsec PVP. Imagine gate camping with no risk of BLOPS/Super drops and bubbles. Highsec deccers are in highsec for the same reason their prey is: they can't handle low and null.
(Those that can handle null because their mains are in null are likely too bored out there and need some easy pew)
Fighting back will only garner you more decs because now you have "provided content". So the only thing you can do is deny them that one thing they bothered to care about.
And THAT is Eve after all: winning the game by denying the playing of the game.
Disband the corp or find some other game to sub to. What if you like your corp or its name? Disbanding or curling up into a ball will get you nowhere. To progress in this game one has to adapt, find solution to obstacles and learn from experience. Especially if these guys are decced by CODE, which is like +û tier threat at best as an wartarget. Dude told you why dropping corp, or otherwise dodging the intended distraction is, in his opinion, the best action. You're denying peoples content. (In exactly the same way they wish to deny you yours.) I'm not knocking EvE's playerbase here, but... let's for a brief moment stop gilding the lilly: People who play this MMO, specifically those playing "da bad gui" in highsec, are not doing it to be someones story about how "getting blown up that first time turned me on to pvp, and the greatness that is the games intricate community'. No, they're playing specifically, and emphatically, to be a ****. To annoy, and to be a pain in someone else's life, however briefly. It's a fair argument that the most appropriate counter is to frustrate the people trying to frustrate you, by passively denying them your attention. I beg to differ sir. I specifically went through my kill mails and struck up conversations with all newer players in an attempt to get them to understand the game and PvP. With a semi reasonable success rate too
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2017.06.09 18:20:49 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Clockwork Robot wrote:Ro Fenrios wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Best way to deal with it is not to fight them. Blankey highsec deccing is bottom feeding highsec PVP. Imagine gate camping with no risk of BLOPS/Super drops and bubbles. Highsec deccers are in highsec for the same reason their prey is: they can't handle low and null.
(Those that can handle null because their mains are in null are likely too bored out there and need some easy pew)
Fighting back will only garner you more decs because now you have "provided content". So the only thing you can do is deny them that one thing they bothered to care about.
And THAT is Eve after all: winning the game by denying the playing of the game.
Disband the corp or find some other game to sub to. What if you like your corp or its name? Disbanding or curling up into a ball will get you nowhere. To progress in this game one has to adapt, find solution to obstacles and learn from experience. Especially if these guys are decced by CODE, which is like +û tier threat at best as an wartarget. Dude told you why dropping corp, or otherwise dodging the intended distraction is, in his opinion, the best action. You're denying peoples content. (In exactly the same way they wish to deny you yours.) I'm not knocking EvE's playerbase here, but... let's for a brief moment stop gilding the lilly: People who play this MMO, specifically those playing "da bad gui" in highsec, are not doing it to be someones story about how "getting blown up that first time turned me on to pvp, and the greatness that is the games intricate community'. No, they're playing specifically, and emphatically, to be a ****. To annoy, and to be a pain in someone else's life, however briefly. It's a fair argument that the most appropriate counter is to frustrate the people trying to frustrate you, by passively denying them your attention. I beg to differ sir. I specifically went through my kill mails and struck up conversations with all newer players in an attempt to get them to understand the game and PvP. With a semi reasonable success rate too
I did not state that the "newbro shepherding" experience was entirely ficticious... Merely that it was rare enough to be the "proof" of its absence.
And Ive personally mailed everyone that ever exploded me, and never gotten a reply. :-( I'd be willing to accept your anti-matter, Nor. |

Moon Moon Burdy
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
261
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Posted - 2017.06.09 19:46:30 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Clockwork Robot wrote:Ro Fenrios wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Best way to deal with it is not to fight them. Blankey highsec deccing is bottom feeding highsec PVP. Imagine gate camping with no risk of BLOPS/Super drops and bubbles. Highsec deccers are in highsec for the same reason their prey is: they can't handle low and null.
(Those that can handle null because their mains are in null are likely too bored out there and need some easy pew)
Fighting back will only garner you more decs because now you have "provided content". So the only thing you can do is deny them that one thing they bothered to care about.
And THAT is Eve after all: winning the game by denying the playing of the game.
Disband the corp or find some other game to sub to. What if you like your corp or its name? Disbanding or curling up into a ball will get you nowhere. To progress in this game one has to adapt, find solution to obstacles and learn from experience. Especially if these guys are decced by CODE, which is like +û tier threat at best as an wartarget. Dude told you why dropping corp, or otherwise dodging the intended distraction is, in his opinion, the best action. You're denying peoples content. (In exactly the same way they wish to deny you yours.) I'm not knocking EvE's playerbase here, but... let's for a brief moment stop gilding the lilly: People who play this MMO, specifically those playing "da bad gui" in highsec, are not doing it to be someones story about how "getting blown up that first time turned me on to pvp, and the greatness that is the games intricate community'. No, they're playing specifically, and emphatically, to be a ****. To annoy, and to be a pain in someone else's life, however briefly. It's a fair argument that the most appropriate counter is to frustrate the people trying to frustrate you, by passively denying them your attention. I beg to differ sir. I specifically went through my kill mails and struck up conversations with all newer players in an attempt to get them to understand the game and PvP. With a semi reasonable success rate too I did not state that the "newbro shepherding" experience was entirely ficticious... Merely that it was rare enough to be the "proof" of its absence. And Ive personally mailed everyone that ever exploded me, and never gotten a reply. :-( I'd be willing to accept your anti-matter, Nor.
This was funny for me to read. I'm one of those "rare" people who got newbro shepherded by the Devils back in 2015. There's a nifty write up of the experience. Check it out!
I'll bet it happens a lot more than you think.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8565
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:29:28 -
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Ro Fenrios wrote:Loki does not follow.
And that one sentence right there should be the shining monument that everything a highsec wardeccer is all about and what they are made of.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8565
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:35:30 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Clockwork Robot wrote:Ro Fenrios wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Best way to deal with it is not to fight them. Blankey highsec deccing is bottom feeding highsec PVP. Imagine gate camping with no risk of BLOPS/Super drops and bubbles. Highsec deccers are in highsec for the same reason their prey is: they can't handle low and null.
(Those that can handle null because their mains are in null are likely too bored out there and need some easy pew)
Fighting back will only garner you more decs because now you have "provided content". So the only thing you can do is deny them that one thing they bothered to care about.
And THAT is Eve after all: winning the game by denying the playing of the game.
Disband the corp or find some other game to sub to. What if you like your corp or its name? Disbanding or curling up into a ball will get you nowhere. To progress in this game one has to adapt, find solution to obstacles and learn from experience. Especially if these guys are decced by CODE, which is like +û tier threat at best as an wartarget. Dude told you why dropping corp, or otherwise dodging the intended distraction is, in his opinion, the best action. You're denying peoples content. (In exactly the same way they wish to deny you yours.) I'm not knocking EvE's playerbase here, but... let's for a brief moment stop gilding the lilly: People who play this MMO, specifically those playing "da bad gui" in highsec, are not doing it to be someones story about how "getting blown up that first time turned me on to pvp, and the greatness that is the games intricate community'. No, they're playing specifically, and emphatically, to be a ****. To annoy, and to be a pain in someone else's life, however briefly. It's a fair argument that the most appropriate counter is to frustrate the people trying to frustrate you, by passively denying them your attention. I beg to differ sir. I specifically went through my kill mails and struck up conversations with all newer players in an attempt to get them to understand the game and PvP. With a semi reasonable success rate too I did not state that the "newbro shepherding" experience was entirely ficticious... Merely that it was rare enough to be the "proof" of its absence. And Ive personally mailed everyone that ever exploded me, and never gotten a reply. :-( I'd be willing to accept your anti-matter, Nor.
It used to be more common during the golden age of MMOs but it does still happen. Depends on who you are dealing with. Sometimes you get people who come to play a game and want everybody to enjoy it and sometimes you get people who are off their meds.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Circle-Of-Two
4401
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Posted - 2017.06.10 00:07:13 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
It used to be more common during the golden age of MMOs but it does still happen. Depends on who you are dealing with. Sometimes you get people who come to play a game and want everybody to enjoy it and sometimes you get people who are off their meds.
Can't we be a bit of both? 
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8568
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Posted - 2017.06.10 08:13:08 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
It used to be more common during the golden age of MMOs but it does still happen. Depends on who you are dealing with. Sometimes you get people who come to play a game and want everybody to enjoy it and sometimes you get people who are off their meds.
Can't we be a bit of both? 
oh pshaw
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