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Annir Janau Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2017.06.10 08:08:26 - [1] - Quote sorry eve, I really tried to like you. I love the premise, the tech, the intricacies, engineering and strategies. But for a solo player, its a complete waste of time. Odd and irregular hours of play, limited time and, especially, inability to be a total sycophant relegate me to the world of loner roamer which equals death. I play games to take a break from regular life, alas all this is more of the same. Unless you are part of a gang and/or have a 1b income stream to blow on blinged out pvp ships, life is pretty ******. I'll just go grind a real job thanks. cya.
JC Mieyli Ministry of War Amarr Empire 88	Posted - 2017.06.10 08:28:14 - [2] - Quote have you tried a cloaky astero if you run soe missions you dont even have to pay for it
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 8568	Posted - 2017.06.10 08:29:48 - [3] - Quote Annir Janau wrote: sorry eve, I really tried to like you. I love the premise, the tech, the intricacies, engineering and strategies. But for a solo player, its a complete waste of time. Odd and irregular hours of play, limited time and, especially, inability to be a total sycophant relegate me to the world of loner roamer which equals death. I play games to take a break from regular life, alas all this is more of the same. Unless you are part of a gang and/or have a 1b income stream to blow on blinged out pvp ships, life is pretty ******. I'll just go grind a real job thanks. cya. Coming here to get trolled is not going to solve anything. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Mr Mieyli Hedion University Amarr Empire 646	Posted - 2017.06.10 08:44:30 - [4] - Quote You'll be missed OP. Last thing this game needs is more people leaving, but I'm sure the crowd of elitist will be out in force to tell you why it's your own fault youve been driven out. This post brought to you by CCP's alpha forum alt initiative. Playing the eve forums has never come cheaper.
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 1225	Posted - 2017.06.10 09:23:41 - [5] - Quote Same could be said of those who believe the game or devs are solely responsible for it being a less than worthwhile experience. Call it a two-way street, if you will. Then again, that's honestly not really a fight worth picking. As is in many arenas, pointing fingers is rarely ever a good first step. Truth is this game, like any other, is either worth your time or it's not. One major reason is indeed how lopsided Eve is in terms of how enjoyable it usually is to two very different play-styles: those within a group, and those on their own. It can still be enjoyable to a soloist: even after 7 years, I'm still around and have no plans to leave anytime soon. Granted, I am me and you are you and that alone can make a difference. You just have to find your way. Other players can help if you're willing to let them -- the hint here is that, while I am now, I wasn't always a solo player. It's unfortunate that the OP isn't enjoying Eve. Hopefully then, even if not of this game, you are able to find something that is. In that case, I wish you good fortune, Annir Janau. Stay safe and fly dangerous. "Tomahawks?" "----in' A, right?" "Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each." "----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Kaeden 3142 State Protectorate Caldari State 11	Posted - 2017.06.10 09:29:48 - [6] - Quote expect GTFO or HTFU from the douches.
Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 315	Posted - 2017.06.10 09:43:44 - [7] - Quote Annir Janau wrote: solo player EvE is a place where bad decisions lead to bad experience. I have detected your worst one. I feel with everyone who only experience grind and suffering because of the choices they made. But for me, the best thing in New Eden is that your choices have consequences. That's why those who love it love it. Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.
Dracvlad Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy 3208	Posted - 2017.06.10 10:00:44 - [8] - Quote Yebo Lakatosh wrote: Annir Janau wrote: solo player EvE is a place where bad decisions lead to bad experience. I have detected your worst one. I feel with everyone who only experience grind and suffering because of the choices they made. But for me, the best thing in New Eden is that your choices have consequences. That's why those who love it love it. I refer you to this: Quote: Odd and irregular hours of play Which is way solo play is what he was doing... When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Axhind Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 361	Posted - 2017.06.10 10:47:53 - [9] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Yebo Lakatosh wrote: Annir Janau wrote: solo player EvE is a place where bad decisions lead to bad experience. I have detected your worst one. I feel with everyone who only experience grind and suffering because of the choices they made. But for me, the best thing in New Eden is that your choices have consequences. That's why those who love it love it. I refer you to this: Quote: Odd and irregular hours of play Which is way solo play is what he was doing... How is that a sane reason for solo play? Most of us have strange playing times and things change in RL. Never had any issues with it in Goons and everyone knows how strict we are with paps and stuff. EVE is a **** game when played solo, It is a **** game with others too but then you get to enjoy the strategic level stuff and that is the fun thing about EVE.
Coralas Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2017.06.10 10:52:21 - [10] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Yebo Lakatosh wrote: Annir Janau wrote: solo player EvE is a place where bad decisions lead to bad experience. I have detected your worst one. I feel with everyone who only experience grind and suffering because of the choices they made. But for me, the best thing in New Eden is that your choices have consequences. That's why those who love it love it. I refer you to this: Quote: Odd and irregular hours of play Which is way solo play is what he was doing... The point is that goons would be active 24x7. Even cas combat in syndicate, which is probably no more than a couple of hundred people, has active people at any time of the day, so take an organization 500x the size... Also I've never found problems finding things to do solo.

Corey Fumimasa Shilo Inc. 1039	Posted - 2017.06.10 11:52:11 - [11] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrMoHNXiCEI&list=PLF1502A83837DC0CD This is Dr. Ogres Lets play Eve online 1. It is a well-done tutorial for solo play at odd hours of the day. He has a great perspective on the game and goes over many of the early stumbling blocks. Best of luck, both here and in rl.
Corey Fumimasa Shilo Inc. 1039	Posted - 2017.06.10 11:53:27 - [12] - Quote Edit: Not Quote
Kogilla Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2017.06.10 11:59:18 - [13] - Quote I hope having a group of friends to fly with doesn't equate to being a sycophant for you. Anyway, sorry to see you go, and best of luck finding something more suitable out there. o7
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 1689	Posted - 2017.06.10 12:43:14 - [14] - Quote I play solo just fine and love it. Sounds like you needed to job shadow someone @lunettelulu7
TackyTachy1 Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 163	Posted - 2017.06.10 13:04:08 - [15] - Quote I don't really "Love" the game but going on four years with no intentions to leave anytime soon pretty well means something. Never made any friends, do not trust any character except my own and sometimes wonder about them. I multi-box three accounts and a bunch of characters and tend to play my own little game and while I'm no PvP drama queen I do have my moments, rare though they be. What a lot of people don't get, and this springs from the faux Boom Boom trailers CCP puts out, is that Eve is not and will never ever be a source of instant gratification. Success comes only from time spent in mental preparation concerning tactics, ships, fittings, skill training, all that and if you guess wrong then some rude so and so blows all your meticulous dreams to little itty bitty pieces. And that's the way it is and quite frankly I hope it never changes. Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
Aedaxus Digital Zone Corp 75	Posted - 2017.06.10 13:05:16 - [16] - Quote Annir Janau wrote: sorry eve, I really tried to like you. I love the premise, the tech, the intricacies, engineering and strategies. But for a solo player, its a complete waste of time. Odd and irregular hours of play, limited time and, especially, inability to be a total sycophant relegate me to the world of loner roamer which equals death. I play games to take a break from regular life, alas all this is more of the same. Unless you are part of a gang and/or have a 1b income stream to blow on blinged out pvp ships, life is pretty ******. I'll just go grind a real job thanks. cya. Just join a good group, people with your attitude are scarce so corps will give you a lot of freebies.
Dravos Tarimus Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2017.06.10 13:38:25 - [17] - Quote Have you tried Factional Warfare? You can have lots of solo fun with 2 mil ISK ships.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 4157	Posted - 2017.06.10 14:23:03 - [18] - Quote Not sure why people think they can only have fun in blinged ships. I had the most fun in cheap frigates which you could replace in bulk by doing maybe one mission. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Nana Skalski Taisaanat Kotei 34978	Posted - 2017.06.10 16:42:53 - [19] - Quote Yes! Posts like that make me happy, It seems EVE still have this special something I started playing it for. It still have all those challenges. Here you have to make your own cookie, but this cookie is worth something to you in effect. Its remarkably real for a game. That is why I like it. ß¦çß¦áß¦ç-Ç-Å ß¦ÿß¦Ç-Çß¦¢ ß¦Å-ô ß¦Ç +óß¦Çß¦ìß¦ç -£ß¦ç-ƒß¦ÿs ß¦¢ß¦Å ß¦¢ß¦ç-ƒ-ƒ ß¦Ç sß¦¢ß¦Å-Ç-Å =ƒôò ß¦í-£ß¦ç-Çß¦ç +¬s ß¦Ç+¦+ó-Ç-Å ß¦äß¦Å+¦ß¦äß¦Å-Çß¦à +óß¦£-Å ß¦í-£ß¦ç+¦ -Åß¦Åß¦£ +¦ß¦çß¦çß¦à -£+¬ß¦ì ß¦Åsß¦ÿ-Çß¦ç-Å =ƒÜÇ GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Zarek Kree Lunatic Legion Holdings 233	Posted - 2017.06.10 16:55:58 - [20] - Quote I think the OP is giving up too soon, but it does highlight the fact that EVE has a formidable "hump" period that must be climbed to continue. It's the period AFTER you've gotten some skills and have begun to get a handle on the complexity of the game and BEFORE you've developed enough skills and knowledge to engage in a wide variety of fun activities. We spend a lot of time talking about the learning curve (or cliff), but not as much time talking about this engagement hump, despite the fact that it strips as many new players as the early game. For me it came a few months in where I knew just enough to get myself in trouble but not enough to get myself out. As a result, I felt like I couldn't do anything without being smacked and beaten. The people who get over the hump are the ones who find something that they both enjoy and that they can do successfully at their skill and knowledge levels. For me it was FW, but it's probably different for everybody. If I hadn't stumbled into FW, I might have gotten similarly frustrated and quit as well. However, once you get over the hump, the entirety of the EVE universe lies in front of you with its immense possibilities. I'd tell anybody that if you liked the game enough to play it for 2-3 months but now don't think it's fun anymore, then you're probably facing the hump. Push through and it gets better.

Yourmoney Mywallet Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation 1402	Posted - 2017.06.10 16:59:25 - [21] - Quote Well since noone's said it yet... Can I have your stuff? kthxbye
ISD Stall ISD STAR 35	Posted - 2017.06.10 19:14:44 - [22] - Quote Quote: 33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel. CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded. I have moved this thread to the correct sub forum. ISD Stall Support Training and Resources (STAR) Community Communications Liaison (CCL) Interstellar Services Department.
Aedaxus Digital Zone Corp 75	Posted - 2017.06.10 19:16:39 - [23] - Quote Yourmoney Mywallet wrote: Well since noone's said it yet... Can I have your stuff? kthxbye Can I have some too? I didn't want to sound greedy but I am.
Blade Darth Room for Improvement Limited Expectations 227	Posted - 2017.06.10 20:02:55 - [24] - Quote There is an option to buy ships for irl cash. With plex prices rising, you can buy dozens of ships for just a few bucks. Pimp modules are dirt cheap too. Omen Navy Issue Tutorial
Rain6637 NulzSec 35047	Posted - 2017.06.10 20:47:24 - [25] - Quote Annir Janau wrote: I'll just go grind a real job thanks. cya. EVE: worse than working It is actually Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 NulzSec 35047	Posted - 2017.06.10 20:48:27 - [26] - Quote ISD Stall wrote: Quote: 33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel. CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded. I have moved this thread to the correct sub forum. You have an awesome name Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Yourmoney Mywallet Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation 1404	Posted - 2017.06.10 20:54:50 - [27] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: ISD Stall wrote: Quote: 33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel. CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded. I have moved this thread to the correct sub forum. You have an awesome name as an rl pilot i beg to differ
Blade Darth Room for Improvement Limited Expectations 227	Posted - 2017.06.10 23:09:06 - [28] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: ISD Stall wrote: Quote: 33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel. CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded. I have moved this thread to the correct sub forum. You have an awesome name Stalling the offtop since 2009 Omen Navy Issue Tutorial
Lord Harrowmont Nothing Is Beyond Our Reach 38	Posted - 2017.06.11 03:07:23 - [29] - Quote Annir Janau wrote: sorry eve, I really tried to like you. I love the premise, the tech, the intricacies, engineering and strategies. But for a solo player, its a complete waste of time. Odd and irregular hours of play, limited time and, especially, inability to be a total sycophant relegate me to the world of loner roamer which equals death. I play games to take a break from regular life, alas all this is more of the same. Unless you are part of a gang and/or have a 1b income stream to blow on blinged out pvp ships, life is pretty ******. I'll just go grind a real job thanks. cya. Give NPSI a try before you leave. Daily fleets and all skill levels welcome. PVP content till you drop... Game channels: 'Spectre Fleet' 'Bombers Bar'
Rain6637 NulzSec 35050	Posted - 2017.06.11 03:37:37 - [30] - Quote Yourmoney Mywallet wrote: Rain6637 wrote: ISD Stall wrote: Quote: 33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel. CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded. I have moved this thread to the correct sub forum. You have an awesome name as an rl pilot i beg to differ It reminds me of a childhood friend who had a speech impediment. ISD Star would be pronounced stall Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

Val Kaleth Realm of Mischief 1673	Posted - 2017.06.12 15:40:28 - [31] - Quote Like all things in life, EVE is better if you make friends... Feel free to join me in game in the "Realm of Mischief" channel. =ƒç«=ƒç¬ disappears in a cloud of rust
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 5113	Posted - 2017.06.14 00:15:22 - [32] - Quote Dravos Tarimus wrote: Have you tried Factional Warfare? You can have lots of solo fun with 2 mil ISK ships. Yeah. There a lot of individualists or nonconformists flying around solo in FW space. Maybe they're on a samurai sword quest, or they watched too many Clint Eastwood movies, or maybe they're just anti-social. Or just busy dads with can only commit to casual play. Really fun though.
Radious Servasse Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 161	Posted - 2017.06.14 01:44:14 - [33] - Quote Lord Harrowmont wrote: Give NPSI a try before you leave. Daily fleets and all skill levels welcome. PVP content till you drop... Game channels: 'Spectre Fleet' 'Bombers Bar' I swear, either you or someone with a name very similar to yours Harrowmont once tried to scam me. I believe it was the "Isk doubling game" in Jita, but I can't be sure. It was last year however, towards the end of the year. You may not realise it, but scammers (And growing bored of market games at that time, due to failing and a lack of experience about eve as a game) pushed me into a different path, that is of exploration. I was extremely successful at exploration, after trial and error and I was making Isk rapidly, accumilating billions over time. It was being forced into exploration which led to my intimate discovery of null sec alliances. Being hunted through Cobalt Edge by inPanic was one of the luckiest things that happened to me, as one of those corps offered me a place in their alliance. It took a lot of time, learning about the game, generating tonnes of isk with about 6 months in inPanic before joining PH for the purposes of learning PvP. Within my first 2 weeks in PH, I FC'd my first fleet which ended up resulting in a full-on capital brawl causing ~40B of destroyed Dreadnaughts from a failed dread-bombing and that was my first proper fleet as FC (Caps FC'd themselves do note, I FC'd the sub-caps) in PH. (Insider Joke: Horde dosen't have Caps ) It's really funny, to think that this journey I embarked on was because of annoying scammers (Insert "Like you" if appropriate). Anyways a message for the OP: Moral of the story, the experiences you have in Eve shape and mould you, and completely unexpected things will happen from the nastiest circumstances. Don't quit because you are down on your luck. Eve ultimately is a game of time and you will make plenty of mistakes but never give up. (A good reason for quitting is RL commitments however, Eve can slowly take over your life. Don't turn Eve into a job) . Being a solo player is by far one of the toughest paths you can take. There are very few people who have that capability (And succeed). Eve is designed to be a MMO. It is based around player interaction and such it rewards players for working together. But note that you don't need billions to have alot of fun in Eve. I've had unbelivable fun flying around 3m isk ships through lowsec and teaming up with random people to roam. Alpha ships are actually quite awesome once you know how to fit your race's ships properly. PS: I still suck at solo pvp, and I've whelped a fleet of cormorants since then (Still very new to FCing), but there are some glorious golden moments you will become a part of. Seeing a carrier for the first time, seeing a super, and then a titan for the first time were some of my most memorable moments.
Dracvlad Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy 3225	Posted - 2017.06.14 05:39:12 - [34] - Quote Axhind wrote: Dracvlad wrote: Yebo Lakatosh wrote: Annir Janau wrote: solo player EvE is a place where bad decisions lead to bad experience. I have detected your worst one. I feel with everyone who only experience grind and suffering because of the choices they made. But for me, the best thing in New Eden is that your choices have consequences. That's why those who love it love it. I refer you to this: Quote: Odd and irregular hours of play Which is way solo play is what he was doing... How is that a sane reason for solo play? Most of us have strange playing times and things change in RL. Never had any issues with it in Goons and everyone knows how strict we are with paps and stuff. EVE is a **** game when played solo, It is a **** game with others too but then you get to enjoy the strategic level stuff and that is the fun thing about EVE. Calm down, the Goons are well organised and stuff, we all know that, I found an excellent AU TZ alliance that does fleet stuff in my main play period, but prior to that I often missed out on fun fleet stuff in other alliances. Odd and irregular play will make it hard for him to develop a group of friends and therefore he ends up playing more solo, I have come across people in the same situation, perhaps you should invite him to your corp, as I know people who were in your corp I also know that your corp is an especially good corp, so he can get into a group that suits him. When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp


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