I follow the forums, twitter, reddit and only recently leaned of ghost training, probably ~1 month ago.

I'm assuming this will be like the time FW lp payouts were based on market cost of ship so someone did a 1% implant pump and blew up haulers full of worthless implants that were highly valued on the market and made a ton of isk. So it will take some time to check the logs and go after the people that heavily abused it. I feel like there is a ton of grey area for all the people that let their subs lapse for some period of time and unknowingly benefited, or even knowingly abused it for a short while.

So Ghost training came back from the dead once again. Last time this, and ghost RP collecting, ghost manufacturing and ghost R&D was around, ghost market orders are still a thing though and always have been, CCP never punished anyone just fixed their mistakes. In fact the only thing, other than EULA breaking mistakes, CCP has taken things away from players for was the FW farming where certain players made trillions of isk in a few days or weeks. Again, something CCP overlooked, and left open to players to exploit and abuse.

In fact CCP has many times actually commended us for being very ingenuitive in how we break features or things in unexpected ways, and some are even considered "emergent gameplay" when they occur from such coding or unforseen balancing issues. I think even Falcon has said as much before iirc.

So for all of you crying foul. You really need to read up on a few things in Eves past before you do.


That being said. It was good to go back to the old days for a while again, had to end sometime.BlinkTwisted

I think it's unlikely CCP will talk about it. They'll simply fix it and people with omega skills in their queue will simply stop training when their omega time expires. You'll learn that it's fixed when people using the exploit start crying about it.

I gather it's very difficult to prove intent so making it a bannable offence is problematic. Best to simply fix it quietly.

Yeah thats one thing I think a lot of the 'ban them all and take their money' crowd havent considered, that it is most likely extremely difficult to tell the difference between someone using ghost training and someone doing normal unsub/resub activities when you only have logs to go off. And if there isnt a way to reliably spot it then you cant just ban the people who said they used it, Globby being a good example here, because then you open yourself up to accusations of unfairness.

its better to just fix the issue and move on.

sure it will be hard to see on small scales, but the people with massive skill farms should be far easier to spot. Talking 100s of billions to trillions of isk.

I follow the forums, twitter, reddit and only recently leaned of ghost training, probably ~1 month ago.

I'm assuming this will be like the time FW lp payouts were based on market cost of ship so someone did a 1% implant pump and blew up haulers full of worthless implants that were highly valued on the market and made a ton of isk. So it will take some time to check the logs and go after the people that heavily abused it. I feel like there is a ton of grey area for all the people that let their subs lapse for some period of time and unknowingly benefited, or even knowingly abused it for a short while.

I don't know about the ghost training exploit, but I'll bet they'll do something about this rule-breaking post.

Yeah that's a fair point tbh. Guess IP matching is going a bit far over space bucks but they could just track the transfer of ISK for the larger entities.

[quote=Eternus8lux8lucis]So for all of you crying foul.

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