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Mephistophilis hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.18 14:18:00 - [31] Spud gun 4TW There should be one question on the application form for a gun 'DO YOU WANT A MACHINEGUN?' if you say yes, your clearly not of sound mind and should be ejected from the planets surface! Though tbh i DO actually want a mahinegun mwhahahahaha
Gungankllr Caldari STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.05.18 14:21:00 - [32] It's really not a big choice, it just all depends on the activity you are using the sidearm for. Shooting paper targets or cans, I'd pick a 9mm because ammo is cheap, low recoil and less arm fatigue after a long shooting session if you're not a regular shooter. If I was deployed somewhere again where people are shooting at me, I'd want a .45 as a sidearm. But in reality, if you get into a position where you have to deploy your sidearm, somebody did something wrong.
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.05.18 14:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Gungankllr But in reality, if you get into a position where you have to deploy your sidearm, somebody did something wrong. It boggles my mind peoples fascination with guns. There's a really limp d***ed power thing about it. It amazes me that anyone would want to associate themselves with something that kills people. How anyone could think a society full of guns is a good thing is beyond me. I'm really suprised that people don't extend their brainpower to the thought of how it feels to have your family member shot, and then wonder how a society let alone an individual could want the bloody things. Your all nuts
Big Al The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen	Posted - 2007.05.18 14:49:00 - [34] Originally by: Locus Bey It boggles my mind peoples fascination with guns. There's a really limp d*ed power thing about it. It amazes me that anyone would want to associate themselves with something that kills people. How anyone could think a society full of guns is a good thing is beyond me. To each their own. This is spoken like someone who has never fired a gun in their life though. Guns don't kill people, people kill people, a gun is merely a TOOL. Admittedly, it is a tool that can be used to murder people (or defend yourself, your family, acquire food, have fun, or make an ass of yourself). I have lots of guns, I have never killed anyone nor do I plan to. I have killed bear, deer, squirrels, javelina, coyote, duck, etc though. They were tasty (except the javelina, he was just making a mess). Originally by:** Locus Bey I'm really suprised that people don't extend their brainpower to the thought of how it feels to have your family member shot, and then wonder how a society let alone an individual could want the bloody things. Your all nuts This is why people have guns, to prevent harm to their family members. I'm not going to get into the politics but making guns illegal makes the only people with guns criminals. But back to the subject at hand, yeah, 9mm is nice for saving money (100rd whitebox at walmart for 9 dollars \o/) or for taking someone to shoot handguns for the first time. It's also plenty effective. It's just not manly enough, and the old timers will make fun of you.
RedFall Irreligion	Posted - 2007.05.18 15:03:00 - [35] Originally by: Mephistophilis There should be one question on the application form for a gun 'DO YOU WANT A MACHINEGUN?' if you say yes, your clearly not of sound mind and should be ejected from the planets surface! Though tbh i DO actually want a mahinegun mwhahahahaha I shot plenty of machine guns in my day. Nothing was more fun then the Mk19. It's a fully automatic 40 MM GRENADE launcher ffs. A machine gun + grenade launcher = mayhem and fun. Although, I would rather have the trusty old M240G any day. There's nothing like shooting 30 rounds of 7.62mm every second. Originally by: John McFly Unless you're a moody loner with an assault rifle, then the sky's the limit. Assault rifles are for gangsta idiots who go for the "accuracy by volume" method of gun play. I would rather have a trusty bolt action Sako or Remington over an Uzi any day. One shot, one kill. Originally by: Locus Bey It boggles my mind peoples fascination with guns. There's a really limp d***ed power thing about it. It amazes me that anyone would want to associate themselves with something that kills people. How anyone could think a society full of guns is a good thing is beyond me. I don't like guns, I have them, I have a lot of them, but I don't like them. But the basic point is that the bad guys will ALWAYS have guns, so I want the biggest, baddest gun I can get my hands on. If you remember Braveheart the movie, the Scots weren't allowed to own swords. There was sword-control. But the English has swords. What does that tell you? I think this just boils down to a cultural difference. I don't know, maybe it's that American's are more trusting of each other than Europeans.
LVSOCOM Minmatar The Rat Pack	Posted - 2007.05.18 15:49:00 - [36] Hearing European opinions on firearms are usually pretty funny. Alot of vitrolic hatred for firearms by people who have almost zero experience past movies, tv, and the press. It boils down to how much personal responsibility you're willing to maintain folks. I'm comfortable carrying a licensed firearm concealed for self protection and the responsibility required to do so. So are another serveral million gun owners in the 48 states the licensing is permitted.
LVSOCOM Minmatar The Rat Pack	Posted - 2007.05.18 16:00:00 - [37] Edited by: LVSOCOM on 18/05/2007 16:02:58 Originally by: RedFall Assault rifles are for gangsta idiots who go for the "accuracy by volume" method of gun play. I would rather have a trusty bolt action Sako or Remington over an Uzi any day. One shot, one kill. The US Army and Navy disagrees with you. Mk12 Mod0/1 SPR Having shot a civilian built version of this rifle, it was on par with my Remington 700P in .308 (range was 200 yards). It is based on the same rifle as the M16/AR15 and aside from the parts being made to a tighter spec, shares alot of part commonality.
RedFall Irreligion	Posted - 2007.05.18 16:10:00 - [38] Originally by: LVSOCOM Edited by: LVSOCOM on 18/05/2007 16:02:58 Originally by: RedFall Assault rifles are for gangsta idiots who go for the "accuracy by volume" method of gun play. I would rather have a trusty bolt action Sako or Remington over an Uzi any day. One shot, one kill. The US Army and Navy disagrees with you. Mk12 Mod0/1 SPR Having shot a civilian built version of this rifle, it was on par with my Remington 700P in .308 (range was 200 yards). It is based on the same rifle as the M16/AR15 and aside from the parts being made to a tighter spec, shares alot of part commonality. It's the Army, they aren't known for their grace in combat. They smash things, that's what they do. One shot one kill, not accuracy by volume.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.18 16:39:00 - [39] Some cousins of mine who live on a farm own a shotgun. What does that count as? Thats the only guns I've ever fired (my cousins' dad (whatever relation that is) used to set up targets for us) and one of the few guns I've ever seen (100% of the rest would be in the hands of someone uniformed of some persuasion). Gotta love Europe- who needs to defend them self with a gun if no-one else has a gun to endanger you? Honestly though, I don't see the appeal, unless you are part of some shooting sport or other, or farm. People who own guns just for the sake of owning them.......that I don't get. If every little chav on a street corner could get a gun just by breaking in to any old house, I'd be scared out of my wits 24/7. Better if they're de-clawed --------
LVSOCOM Minmatar The Rat Pack	Posted - 2007.05.18 16:45:00 - [40] Originally by: RedFall Originally by: LVSOCOM Edited by: LVSOCOM on 18/05/2007 16:02:58 Originally by: RedFall Assault rifles are for gangsta idiots who go for the "accuracy by volume" method of gun play. I would rather have a trusty bolt action Sako or Remington over an Uzi any day. One shot, one kill. The US Army and Navy disagrees with you. Mk12 Mod0/1 SPR Having shot a civilian built version of this rifle, it was on par with my Remington 700P in .308 (range was 200 yards). It is based on the same rifle as the M16/AR15 and aside from the parts being made to a tighter spec, shares alot of part commonality. It's the Army, they aren't known for their grace in combat. They smash things, that's what they do. One shot one kill, not accuracy by volume. My responce goes more towards, "assault rifles can be extremely accurate." Which the Mk12 and many AR15/M16's accomplish on the target range, hunting grounds, and battle field. On a side note; Thats a M16, used by US forces, not known for bumpfiring underwater very well.
RedFall Irreligion	Posted - 2007.05.18 16:52:00 - [41] Originally by: LVSOCOM Originally by: RedFall Originally by: LVSOCOM Edited by: LVSOCOM on 18/05/2007 16:02:58 Originally by: RedFall Assault rifles are for gangsta idiots who go for the "accuracy by volume" method of gun play. I would rather have a trusty bolt action Sako or Remington over an Uzi any day. One shot, one kill. The US Army and Navy disagrees with you. Mk12 Mod0/1 SPR Having shot a civilian built version of this rifle, it was on par with my Remington 700P in .308 (range was 200 yards). It is based on the same rifle as the M16/AR15 and aside from the parts being made to a tighter spec, shares alot of part commonality. It's the Army, they aren't known for their grace in combat. They smash things, that's what they do. One shot one kill, not accuracy by volume. My responce goes more towards, "assault rifles can be extremely accurate." Which the Mk12 and many AR15/M16's accomplish on the target range, hunting grounds, and battle field. On a side note; Thats a M16, used by US forces, not known for bumpfiring underwater very well. Yeah, I've shot thousands of rounds out of a M16, they are pretty accurate - you can hit human sized targets up to 600 yards with iron sights. Personally, I would rather use a m1a, or a good bolt action. More stopping power and longer range.
John McFly	Posted - 2007.05.18 17:04:00 - [42] Edited by: John McFly on 18/05/2007 17:04:20 Edited by: John McFly on 18/05/2007 17:02:34 Originally by: RedFall Originally by: John McFly Unless you're a moody loner with an assault rifle, then the sky's the limit. Assault rifles are for gangsta idiots who go for the "accuracy by volume" method of gun play. I would rather have a trusty bolt action Sako or Remington over an Uzi any day. One shot, one kill. An Uzi's a submachine gun, not an assault rifle. And I'd rather have an M1A/M14 or FAL over a bolt-action. Both have served for years in worse conditions than 95% of all the Remingtons & Sakos will ever experience for even a week or two. Its even said that you can bumpfire the FAL underwater and it wont explode, but the Army's poodle-shooter just isnt up to it. Shame really, you never know when you might run into a zombie, even in the bathtub.
RedFall Irreligion	Posted - 2007.05.18 17:10:00 - [43] Originally by: John McFly Shame really, you never know when you might run into a zombie, even in the bathtub. I actually do let the fear of zombies control my part of my life. After seeing Dawn of the Dead (the new one), I must always be prepared to make a run for it well armed.
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.05.18 17:43:00 - [44] I did clay pidgeon shooting once. Hit the clay first time. I never it it again. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Alexis Machine Minmatar Ceraphite Technologies	Posted - 2007.05.18 17:49:00 - [45] .357 SIG ftw.
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.18 19:25:00 - [46] Sorry but the g36k turns me on. -------- Robbie Rotten left me
Royaldo KVA Noble Inc. Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.18 19:34:00 - [47] either 12.7 or 7.62 for me
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC.	Posted - 2007.05.18 20:08:00 - [48] Linebaugh .475 Great for those damned rogue zombie elephant attacks Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC.	Posted - 2007.05.18 20:24:00 - [49] Originally by: Locus Bey It amazes me that anyone would want to associate themselves with something that kills people. Automobiles, plastic bags, chainsaws, pocket knives, tobacco, alcohol, trains, fast food, dogs, stress, balloons, cleaning supplies, water, electricity - all these things kill people, better disassociate yourself from them. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
1tommo1 Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.05.18 20:49:00 - [50] An empty pen and some chewed up bits of paper to get a serious damage mod
Shalia Ripper Caldari High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.18 20:52:00 - [51] I currently own a .45ACP Kimber Compact Custom. It is nice to shoot assaulting paper threats with. However, I do miss my Browning BDM 9MM as it was also fun to shoot the evil paper with. Target shooting is fun, and self defense is merely a bonus. I also carry a 4.5 inch knife pretty much at all times, but have never been threatened by anything more menacing than a recent UPS delivery. It comes in very handy in those circumstances.
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC.	Posted - 2007.05.18 21:01:00 - [52] Originally by: Shalia Ripper I currently own a .45ACP Kimber Compact Custom. It is nice to shoot assaulting paper threats with. Very nice gun, my friend has one and I love it. He gets **ed though because I outshoot him with it. Originally by:** Shalia Ripper I also carry a 4.5 inch knife pretty much at all times, but have never been threatened by anything more menacing than a recent UPS delivery. It comes in very handy in those circumstances. I do the same, have a variety of pocket knives that see more use cleaning my fingernails than anything else. It is nice to know that it is always there when I need it. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.18 21:38:00 - [53] If you're going to just be target shooting, why not .22LR instead of 9mm? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Keorythe Caldari Terra Rosa Militia North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.05.19 00:38:00 - [54] 9mm if you're in Law Enforcement or a Civilian so that you can use specialized rounds like golden sabers or hydrashock. .45 if you're military and are restricted to FMJ hardball ammo that doesn't expand. Getting a high capacity .45 with the specialized ammo works too but for a handgun they feel like bricks (yes 4-6 rounds make a noticeable difference in weight). A good trade off are the .40 caliber lines which have grown in popularity with the civilian law enforcement because of their size and capacity. CZ makes some decent ones at a good price. As far as Europeans go, there is actually a fairly large gun culture throughout europe but it isn't promoted like in the U.S. And they with the heavily restrictive laws they take their art seriously to the point that its exclusive. As far as crime is concerned it doesn't matter what kind of weapon someone has if they are willing to cross the line into murder. Britain already proved that with their incredibly high number of knifings per capita. WTF? Does everyone down there carry a knife or something? With great power comes great responsibility...and hawt cyborz!
John McFly	Posted - 2007.05.19 00:43:00 - [55] Originally by: RedFall Originally by: John McFly Shame really, you never know when you might run into a zombie, even in the bathtub. I actually do let the fear of zombies control my part of my life. After seeing Dawn of the Dead (the new one), I must always be prepared to make a run for it well armed. Do you have a tactical wheelbarrow to make your escape with? Know any Heavy 6's?
Frezik Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.19 01:00:00 - [56] Edited by: Frezik on 19/05/2007 00:58:40 I require nothing less than a .50 cal Barrett. Why do I need a .50 caliber? To shoot the bloody squirrels, duh. Don't ask silly questions. Now get off my lawn.
Murauke	Posted - 2007.05.19 01:12:00 - [57] Actually, with a good hand grip and support with the other hand, recoil is not that much more on a .45 ACP than on a 9mm. .45 ACP has more knockdown power, obviously, while a 9mm has way more penetration. 1911 .45 ACP are still used by U.S. military special forces (Marine Force Recon, Army Special Forces, Navy SEALs,) and other units like for Marine snipers. The more well trained, and experienced prefur the .45 over the 9mm. .45 ACP is going to be here for a long time still, nothing can beat the close range stopping power of that auto round; without too much recoil ofcourse.
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.05.19 01:49:00 - [58] So having the highest gun r8 death per capita of any developed nation is all about self defence ... right The only nation that comes close is switzerland who have similar gun allowances to the US. And for countries like mexico, brazil, who have a major gun problem, have a guess where they get their guns? Self defence is the excuse used by people who don't want to give up their guns. You don't see people using that excuse in Germany, Japan etc. Guns are for killing, whether or not you have done it yet, a totally neanderthal practice.
Enkilil Minmatar Republic Fleet and Logistics Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.19 02:19:00 - [59] For Field / Combat Carry: .45 acp 1911, Springfield Arms, or Safari Arms Matchmaster / Les Baer custom. .400 cor bon acp 1911 Les Baer or Springfield conv. For Home Defense: .40 ACP Smith and Wesson .45 Springfield shorty .38 Special (traditional, revolver) Glock, if you want misfiring, jamming, and blowing up in your hand, then go for it. Glad it's mostly cops and gangstas that carry them. 9mm has no stopping power compared to a .400 / .45, and personally is a status thing. They're overpriced plastic pieces of crap, but that's just one persons' opinion.
Multras Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.19 03:19:00 - [60] I would say .45. The guns usually weigh more which reduces the recoil, increasing your accuracy after multiple shots. That and a 45 stops someone a lot better then a 9mm could.

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