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Trevedian Amarr KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:11:00 - [1] Edited by: Trevedian on 17/05/2007 22:10:41 Remember how Red Dwarf, HAL 9000, and even ThermomanÖ picked up viruses in space? It happens there, why not in EVE? Q - What is the biggest E-peen in space atm? A - A Titan Conversely, Q - How did John Holmes die? A - A virus Hence, Virus's should be allowed to kill, or at least weaken Titans... Discuss? Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:16:00 - [2] Who's John Holmes? Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ... ~Liz Kali
ColFire	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:18:00 - [3] That's a pretty cool idea, but if you ask me, Titans are supposed to be near indestructible ships, it would kind of be unfiar that after all that work getting it, a virus can take it down :\| But The virus idea is pretty cool, but then we would need to buy antivirus :)
Petrothian Tong Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:27:00 - [4] so.. would the rogue drones be like crabs?... /hides -Siggi- ""PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale." Oveur
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Who's John Holmes? The man with the 9" equipment, I think. He was in a movie not too long ago. (no pun intended)
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Requiem of Hades	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:29:00 - [6] What if infected ships go into high secs? I could not imagine the grief on new players or non aggression community. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire What if infected ships go into high secs? I could not imagine the grief on new players or non aggression community. OMG, just die, die in a hole.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:35:00 - [8] I posted a disease thread on the idea forum what is it now, 1+-2 years ago, go dig that one up and necro the hell out of it. Also Known As
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Requiem of Hades	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Jenny Spitfire What if infected ships go into high secs? I could not imagine the grief on new players or non aggression community. OMG, just die, die in a hole. Why? What did I ever do to you? People like you want to make me cry. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:39:00 - [10] Virii - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Tellenta White-Noise	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Trevedian Edited by: Trevedian on 17/05/2007 22:10:41 Remember how Red Dwarf, HAL 9000, and even ThermomanÖ picked up viruses in space? It happens there, why not in EVE? Q - What is the biggest E-peen in space atm? A - A Titan Conversely, Q - How did John Holmes die? A - A virus Hence, Virus's should be allowed to kill, or at least weaken Titans... Discuss? no viruses... no one like a mr. sniffles
VanNostrum Cataphract Securities Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.17 22:57:00 - [12] what if like we could dl mp3s from other ships and stuff? ohhh! what if like there was an anti-virus skill? did neone check if there's a char named Norton or Mcaffee??? wait wait wait...wouldnt it be cool to have a spy-ware skill so we could know where the titan is and stuff? click on my ship to win 10000$ instant! Bukkake Bukkake
Jaffa Agonar Minmatar Mithril Inc	Posted - 2007.05.17 23:13:00 - [13] Edited by: Jaffa Agonar on 17/05/2007 23:12:12 Originally by: ColFire but then we would need to buy antivirus :) Amarr would only be able to use Norton, so they will be out of luck regardless. Not only would it inefficiently remove the virus, but it'd lag the system down so much that it couldn't push its 'I Win' button. I can already see the Update my Norton! threads. Edit: Grr, I know it's /= its, but I still type it!
Syn Diamond Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.05.17 23:13:00 - [14] Edited by: Syn Diamond on 17/05/2007 23:12:45 Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Who's John Holmes? The man with the 9" equipment, I think. He was in a movie not too long ago. (no pun intended) Phhht, not 9', more like 14' of long limb roes...
Myke Hunt	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:01:00 - [15] What do Titan pilots do in their spare time ?
OMGROFL CEO Amarr OMG ROFL	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:06:00 - [16] selfsuck. seriously I'm only in this thread to plug waffles. omgrofl since 1337
Myke Hunt	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:07:00 - [17] Gratifying.
OMGROFL CEO Amarr OMG ROFL	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:09:00 - [18] Do you think you can get the virus from the selfsuck? And is there a remedy like going closer to the sun as a form of keymo? omgrofl since 1337
Myke Hunt	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:10:00 - [19] I think that would be a kind of chicken/egg situation.
OMGROFL CEO Amarr OMG ROFL	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:13:00 - [20] i once put a worm under a magnifying glass in summer. it looked like silly string. true story ask my mate dave. omgrofl since 1337
Myke Hunt	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:15:00 - [21] I once spent the summer blowing up frogs arses with straws and chucking them on the fire until they popped. What a bang, but feck me I had to pay for it later ...
OMGROFL CEO Amarr OMG ROFL	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:18:00 - [22] why? your meant to pay for them BEFORE you blow em up? bet the pet shop owner jumped up and down like a kangaroo on lava? omgrofl since 1337
Myke Hunt	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:19:00 - [23] Edited by: Myke Hunt on 18/05/2007 00:17:45 I never paid for any of them, they were jumping around at the local quarry
OMGROFL CEO Amarr OMG ROFL	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:21:00 - [24] was that near the moose on the loose? omgrofl since 1337
Myke Hunt	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:22:00 - [25] No.
OMGROFL CEO Amarr OMG ROFL	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:24:00 - [26] I used to have a gerbil that I called c*t. well - he didnt have stars in his name. I always wanted a drama llama though omgrofl since 1337*
Jmanis Catharg Caldari Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:38:00 - [27] Y'know what IS a virus? People who put 'Discuss' at the end of their posts. Duh! What else are people going to do? Casually observe? Dance? Eat Cake? It's a forum,,,, people discuss in a forum. Sheesh, anyway, Viruses would be a pretty cool to be honest. There's gang modules which give bonuses to people in your gang,, surely you could have a mod which, when targeted against a ship, weakens some aspect of the target ship and also affects all ships within the same gang in the same way? In the current gang-centric universe and evolving anti-blob warfare, surely something like that'd be pretty useful. It even makes RP sense,,
Eriol Hiiragizawa Empyreal Paradox	Posted - 2007.05.18 00:55:00 - [28] WARNING NO REFUGE ENCOUNTERED AN ASSAILANT TITAN ----- BE ATTITUDE FOR GAINS 1. TANK 2. RUN 3. LOG OUT "Goddamn AI is on the fritz again" -------------------- In Soviet HED, Gate camps YOU!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.18 02:51:00 - [29] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Jenny Spitfire What if infected ships go into high secs? I could not imagine the grief on new players or non aggression community. OMG, just die, die in a hole. Careful, bannable/warnable offence there. A virus would be a nice way to take a titan down, much in the style of Ze Indippnidence Day!
Korvyr	Posted - 2007.05.18 06:21:00 - [30] I can't believe noone brought up space herpes yet...
Vana Gank Gallente Kebabtossers	Posted - 2007.05.18 06:52:00 - [31] Edited by: Vana Gank on 18/05/2007 06:52:29 Lol - OP, awesome comparison. Virus for ships means attacking electronics. That means EW. Consequense, EW for Supercapitals. But a new form of EW. And countermeasures (you do need that aswell). So hacking really gets a new meaning (instead of just PVE). Hm, not too bad of an idea tough .... EDIT: - Buble/scram ship - start hacking - Infect ship with a virus - Track ship down whereever it goes for the next 24 hours. (Hacking effect) - Whenever it is where you want it (you track it), go there - Remote-scram it when you're in the same system as it, warp to it. - Rob it - Cash in. -------------------------- Please adjust the map, please. Im not clever enough to figure out which way to fly.
Ssoraszh Tzarszh Minmatar Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:06:00 - [32] I could see this work. - The virus has to be "invented" or "researched". - Can only be researched at an module from a POS (starbase) in 0.0. - Rechearch time is major, like 3 or 4 times the time it takes to build a titan. - The cost of the research is above the 20 billion isk. - The delivery system can only be fitted on a covert ops, and does not allow the cloaking module to online. (paper thin and would not survive a DDD by any chance adding to the risk of using it) - The delivery has to be 'in line of sight' and has a certain delay (30 secconds for example) - Either the delivery "ammo" or module itself would be destroyed after use to prevent this from making titans useless after having researched a few. Using it would mean losing billions and thus noone would carelessly throw it at any titan. The virus itself would for example create some 'effects' on a titan, like increase the Doomsday timer by a percentage, or make it voulnerable to EW. No 'crippling' effect by itself but weaken the invoulnerability of the ship. It could have a timer, like EW, for example the effects last 1 hour or 30 minutes or so. This way its risky, costly and time consuming and titans would not become completely useless, when hit it could be a problem if you solo'ed your titan and get scrambled after using the DDD.
Ulii	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:38:00 - [33] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Jenny Spitfire What if infected ships go into high secs? I could not imagine the grief on new players or non aggression community. OMG, just die, die in a hole. Why? What did I ever do to you? People like you want to make me cry. dont you think he meant that the infected ships should have the guts to go out into deep 0.0 and die, just like people with scarry decieses did in the past, before hospitals?
Akkarin Pagan Minmatar Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.05.18 08:21:00 - [34] Last time I read 2001 HAL900 didn't get a virus, but ran into a paradox which prior experience didn't allow him to resolve and eventually drove him mad (being a new sentient AI) quite spectacularly, ending with Dave lobotomising him.(very simplified from what Mr. Clarke wrote, but it's been a while). No viruses involved! On a side note Arthur C. Clarke originally wanted to call HAL IBM, but IBM wouldn't play ball so Clarke took the preceding letters from IBM in the alphabet to come up woth HAL instead. Anyway, back on track, we already have warp disruption methods which monkey with a ship's navigational computer (although whether that is a direct interaction with the nav com, or buggering about with the external sensors on the ship which link to the nav com is never really explained). Beyond that, a new viral type of weapon effecting a ship could be quite nasty and overpowered if implemented correctly. I do quite like the idea of having a virus that would allow you to disable or even co-opt another ships drones though . Unfortunateley, I do not have enough experience piloting or fighting against super caps (I prefer to just be somewhere else when a Titan arrives and only want to deal with them directly after teh 3D has gone off), to really comment on other viral effects on ships. Akkarin Hopefully the mods won't play with this one <3 - Immy
VanNostrum Cataphract Securities Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.18 09:38:00 - [35] Originally by: Korvyr I can't believe noone brought up space herpes yet... that only effects vagabond pilots
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.05.18 09:40:00 - [36] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/05/2007 09:37:54 Originally by: Ulii dont you think he meant that the infected ships should have the guts to go out into deep 0.0 and die, just like people with scarry decieses did in the past, before hospitals? That what I was thinking when I read his comments, but then again, maybe not everybody knows about history. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Adaris Dark and Light inc.	Posted - 2007.05.18 11:08:00 - [37] I wouldn't want my ships catching STDs by waiting at a Stargate queue. * * * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZ0j7vtKEQ
General Apocalypse Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.18 11:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Jenny Spitfire What if infected ships go into high secs? I could not imagine the grief on new players or non aggression community. OMG, just die, die in a hole. Why? What did I ever do to you? People like you want to make me cry. Cuz you're not the ORIGINAL Jenny Spitfire your just Jenny Spit. You never seen VI and fought agains th REDs. You're just a carebear that's why Thank You SkyFlyer
Zingu Crafty Productions	Posted - 2007.05.18 11:36:00 - [39] Originally by: Eriol Hiiragizawa WARNING NO REFUGE ENCOUNTERED AN ASSAILANT TITAN ----- BE ATTITUDE FOR GAINS 1. TANK 2. RUN 3. LOG OUT 4. ? 5. PROFIT "Goddamn AI is on the fritz again" I really need to digg up that game again, been so long since i played it.
Cheyenne Shadowborn Caldari Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.05.18 12:29:00 - [40] Originally by: Trevedian Edited by: Trevedian on 17/05/2007 22:10:41 Remember how Red Dwarf, HAL 9000, and even ThermomanÖ picked up viruses in space? It happens there, why not in EVE? A friendly word of warning: If I find out you work for Symantec, I'll pod you. -- CCP: PLEASE fix the forum software - thanks.
Dave White coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.18 12:32:00 - [41] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Who's John Holmes? Clicky CORA. Killboard Personal Killboard
Trevedian Amarr KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.05.18 16:33:00 - [42] Originally by: Ssoraszh Tzarszh I could see this work. - The virus has to be "invented" or "researched". - Can only be researched at an module from a POS (starbase) in 0.0. - Rechearch time is major, like 3 or 4 times the time it takes to build a titan. - The cost of the research is above the 20 billion isk. - The delivery system can only be fitted on a covert ops, and does not allow the cloaking module to online. (paper thin and would not survive a DDD by any chance adding to the risk of using it) - The delivery has to be 'in line of sight' and has a certain delay (30 secconds for example) - Either the delivery "ammo" or module itself would be destroyed after use to prevent this from making titans useless after having researched a few. Using it would mean losing billions and thus noone would carelessly throw it at any titan. The virus itself would for example create some 'effects' on a titan, like increase the Doomsday timer by a percentage, or make it voulnerable to EW. No 'crippling' effect by itself but weaken the invoulnerability of the ship. It could have a timer, like EW, for example the effects last 1 hour or 30 minutes or so. This way its risky, costly and time consuming and titans would not become completely useless, when hit it could be a problem if you solo'ed your titan and get scrambled after using the DDD. These are great suggestions. I totally agree; Also, the suggestion that; "Virus for ships means attacking electronics. That means EW. Consequense, EW for Supercapitals. But a new form of EW. And countermeasures (you do need that aswell)." Makes great sense as well. Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
Celestal	Posted - 2007.05.18 17:30:00 - [43] If a titan could catch a virus , when it fired its DDD I gues huge blobs of snot would fly out and stick to ships nearby .

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