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Valo Mey	Posted - 2007.05.18 17:49:00 - [1] Had a thought wanted to know what people thought. With so many of us as with new players to the game many times we create our characters based on who we know,what we want to do or what we want to fly. This however may change several months or years down the road and after training for so long its difficult to want to start over again. For example you may create your character as a Minmatar,Gallente, or Caldari race and a year later want to get your standings up with the Amarr Empire. Or you may want to join a role playing corp that only allows certain races into that specific corp. My idea or to the point is : the game should allow you to pay to change your race and character background as it does with letting a player pay to change your characters portrait.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.18 17:57:00 - [2] More importantly, check my signature. Also Known As
General Apocalypse Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.18 17:58:00 - [3] And have Achura stats on True Amarr looks 3/9/9/9/9 instead of 5/6/10/6/10 and still be able to call ppl slaves. Me whants Thank You SkyFlyer
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.05.18 18:01:00 - [4] Only if it's explained as a clone gone wrong. You need to get someone to bring in the corpse of another player, of the correct sex and race and who you want to look like, and they plant your Mind Recovery Image (tm) into that body. Of course, you will lose half of your SPs doing this. ------------------------------------- Hold my calls and sack my cook -------------------------------------
Malashek Vatrii Furious Vendetta FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.18 18:28:00 - [5] I'd like an Alias changer, I certainly wouldn't mind renaming a few of my characters that are quite old, and also some of my friends say they don't like their names but they've had it for about a year so it would be stupid to delete and start again. A small fee would do it.. say $10 / ú5 / Ç7.50 but also there needs to be somewhere on that character profile their old name(s) for a period of time to prevent ease of scamming and griefing. * * * * These views are mine, not my corps nor my alliances.. blahdy blah
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.18 18:32:00 - [6] If they offered name changes, let's say, once every year for $50, they could make a killing. Waggles a wad of cash infront of CCP's face
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.18 18:40:00 - [7] WTB: Jovian.
Steppa Gallente Incognito Inc	Posted - 2007.05.18 20:13:00 - [8] There's no way to get the djinni back in the bottle, but I still think CCP should have kept it so that we get bonuses for flying our race's ships. Further, I've always thought it would have been cool to only allow one race in a corp. That way, you'd have formations of race-specific ships moving together and fighting against the same. More interesting that way, I feel, but it's too late now.
SirDregann IV Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.05.18 20:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn If they offered name changes, let's say, once every year for $50, they could make a killing. Waggles a wad of cash infront of CCP's face That would be nice.
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2007.05.18 20:21:00 - [10] This service is already available here.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.18 20:48:00 - [11] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 18/05/2007 20:46:55 The service exists. Simply press the "Terminate" option on the logon screen. Wait 10 hours then remove the charactor. From there pick your race, and pick the same name and simply train up any skills you had previous. Hey Presto - Changing race is possible,you just need enough time to do it though..... Almost as much time as you probebly have been playing eve for, but still..... -- Billion Isk Mission
lusifar	Posted - 2007.05.18 21:46:00 - [12] soo... you don't think that people can change? you just have to use your head ofcause a minmatar can go and help amarr or likewise.. letting people change it for a cost is stupid, if your going to do this, then let every one do this for free ONCE with ONE cherecter. so they can change that main to what they really wanted
Johnny ReeRee The ReeRee Brigade	Posted - 2007.05.18 22:03:00 - [13] It's a game. I've never understood the mentality that things have to be so locked in. If people want to change the way their character looks, is named, or whatever, for the most part they should be allowed to do that. It's fun. Eve's skill system makes same account alts impossible, so "just start a new char" is stupid and impractical. Why not let people have a little fun with their characters? Who does it hurt? Call it a clone transformation, cosmetic surgery, ID-erasing or whatever, charge people $10 if you really have to, and let it go. It's a game.
Johnny ReeRee The ReeRee Brigade	Posted - 2007.05.18 22:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 18/05/2007 20:46:55 The service exists. Simply press the "Terminate" option on the logon screen. Wait 10 hours then remove the charactor. From there pick your race, and pick the same name and simply train up any skills you had previous. Hey Presto - Changing race is possible,you just need enough time to do it though..... Almost as much time as you probebly have been playing eve for, but still..... It's so hard to tell sometimes when people are joking or if they're really that dumb. With this guy, however, I think I know the answer.

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.05.18 22:34:00 - [15] To do so would require a major re-write of the base character code and have an impact on the baseline item of EVE, the character. The trickle down impact would be huge, changing the character stat line would impact skill bonuses, training times, and foster more powergaming as some players would simply change race based on the popular 'template of the week'. It would also be difficult to explain from a RP viewpoint. As with our stance against offering a name change service, I doubt a service of this nature would be offered. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Petrothian Tong Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.18 22:42:00 - [16] Edited by: Petrothian Tong on 18/05/2007 22:41:15 I dont get it.. when you start off a char, well... race just.. errm, starting skills and locations... I mean, this char is Gallente but he flies gallente, amarr, and caldari... and have good standings with all the empires (well, very high on 2 and 2 that are unhappy about me, but arent KOS...) key to having good standings: do missions for both opposing empires with social trained to lvl 5, (you lose alot less than you gain this way) and AVOID Missions that kills the faction navies. -Siggi- ""PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale." Oveur
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.05.18 23:10:00 - [17] Originally by: CCP kieron To do so would require a major re-write of the base character code and have an impact on the baseline item of EVE, the character. The trickle down impact would be huge, changing the character stat line would impact skill bonuses, training times, and foster more powergaming as some players would simply change race based on the popular 'template of the week'. It would also be difficult to explain from a RP viewpoint. As with our stance against offering a name change service, I doubt a service of this nature would be offered. I don't think changing the name is anything relating to this. Changing a name is just changing an entry of the DB number belonging to my character - the name of that character is just an attribute of it. Changing stat-lines - yes, very open to abuse because you just min/max for whatever you are currently training. The first is cosmetic, the second isn't. However I think the idea is not to re-roll a character and apply the old skills, but to just change the attribute of the DB number relating to that character to 'Caldari' instead of 'Amarr' for example. Much like all that would need to be done to change name. Now that I've cleared up what I think is going on here (which may be completely wrong, but hey) is this: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. The whole idea of Eve is it's so open ended you can do what you want. I'm Amarr - yet I've got better standings that some Caldari I know, with the Caldari State. Just do missions for the other guys, like someone else suggested. You can't just change race and expect the new race to instantly like you. And as kieron was saying, if you want that functionality, then you're creating a new character essentially and putting the old skills across. Seems silly. Cosmetic changes yes, please, you've done it with portraits, let people change their names, it's not hard nor game-breaking. Changing race: no, it's too fundamental to cosmetically change.
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.18 23:21:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP kieron As with our stance against offering a name change service, I doubt a service of this nature would be offered. But I want to change my name to xzbgskj! It's a survival issue!
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.05.18 23:40:00 - [19] Originally by: Johnny ReeRee It's a game. I've never understood the mentality that things have to be so locked in. If people want to change the way their character looks, is named, or whatever, for the most part they should be allowed to do that. It's fun. Eve's skill system makes same account alts impossible, so "just start a new char" is stupid and impractical. Why not let people have a little fun with their characters? Who does it hurt? Call it a clone transformation, cosmetic surgery, ID-erasing or whatever, charge people $10 if you really have to, and let it go. It's a game. Hey, fun is where you find it. I personally think it's immensely fun that certain things are almost inescapable in this game. It's part of what gives characters a history, a chance at making it into the collective mythos, and the neverending possibility of payback from someone they've wronged or treated well in their past. Alts, portrait swaps, and character transfers screw this up enough as it is. I don't want to miss a chance at shooting at Lo3d3r someday when he's flying by, just because he changed his name to SpaceLeonidas128. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.05.19 00:20:00 - [20] Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Originally by: CCP kieron To do so would require a major re-write of the base character code and have an impact on the baseline item of EVE, the character. The trickle down impact would be huge, changing the character stat line would impact skill bonuses, training times, and foster more powergaming as some players would simply change race based on the popular 'template of the week'. It would also be difficult to explain from a RP viewpoint. As with our stance against offering a name change service, I doubt a service of this nature would be offered. I don't think changing the name is anything relating to this. Changing a name is just changing an entry of the DB number belonging to my character - the name of that character is just an attribute of it. Changing stat-lines - yes, very open to abuse because you just min/max for whatever you are currently training. The first is cosmetic, the second isn't. I didn't say changing a character name would be a difficult process to institute, only that it is doubtful such a service would be offered. Players build up reputations with their characters, the character name is a unique identifier that binds the reputation and history to the character. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.19 00:21:00 - [21] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 19/05/2007 00:21:28 Originally by: CCP kieron To do so would require a major re-write of the base character code and have an impact on the baseline item of EVE, the character. The trickle down impact would be huge, changing the character stat line would impact skill bonuses, training times, and foster more powergaming as some players would simply change race based on the popular 'template of the week'. It would also be difficult to explain from a RP viewpoint. As with our stance against offering a name change service, I doubt a service of this nature would be offered. Exactly what is this stance about? I've noticed time and again how peoples second character, their hauling alts if you will have names way more in tune with EVE than their main characters, what do you have against promoting an EVE feel by allowing people to change their placeholder trial names to something they actually like and feel is EVE enough? About reputation, same can be said for corporations and alliances, corporations can be traced in peoples employment record, which is all well and fine, as should aliases be yet alliance membership cannot, why this seemingly arbitrary approach to accountability? Also Known As
General Apocalypse Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.19 00:25:00 - [22] Originally by: Aioa This service is already available here. Thank You SkyFlyer
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.19 00:45:00 - [23] Is The Stance anything like Stephen Kings mini-series The Stand? 'Cause that sure didn't make a whole lot of sense in the end either. Also Known As
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.19 02:17:00 - [24] Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Cosmetic changes yes, please, you've done it with portraits, let people change their names, it's not hard nor game-breaking. Changing race: no, it's too fundamental to cosmetically change. Allowing name changes is a terrible idea. As the CCP guys says - You wouldnt know who to trust and who not to trust - and it would be impossible to build up a reputation / establish relationships SKUNK
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.19 02:31:00 - [25] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Cosmetic changes yes, please, you've done it with portraits, let people change their names, it's not hard nor game-breaking. Changing race: no, it's too fundamental to cosmetically change. Allowing name changes is a terrible idea. As the CCP guys says - You wouldnt know who to trust and who not to trust - and it would be impossible to build up a reputation / establish relationships SKUNK Of course there would be a list of known aliases, was that so hard to fathom? Also Known As
Lin Dei Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.05.19 03:26:00 - [26] So... it's not possible to do a portrait swap with a character that is of another race? If no, then darn. If yes, then just (RP) explain that your Amarr char was born in Gallente space and thus has a "Gallente Nationality". Just like a chinese born in america, the looks are different but the nationality on the passport or ID card is the same. ------------------ If you see me post it's because either: 1) Silly forums made me do it 2) Because I was too lazy to change characters 3) Because I wanted to 4) <insert mod comment here>
Alexander Knott Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.19 05:35:00 - [27] Originally by: CCP kieron I didn't say changing a character name would be a difficult process to institute, only that it is doubtful such a service would be offered. Players build up reputations with their characters, the character name is a unique identifier that binds the reputation and history to the character. And then they screw over their corporations, launder the money and sell the characters to unsuspecting players. Then, when their former corporations try to warn their prospective buyers in the "for sale" thread, the posts get deleted because they are "off topic". ----- "I like to loot, especially going to the can of the battleship, sometimes there is a surprise inside, sometimes there is only carp..."
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.05.19 05:44:00 - [28] Originally by: Aramendel Originally by: CCP kieron As with our stance against offering a name change service, I doubt a service of this nature would be offered. But I want to change my name to xzbgskj! It's a survival issue! Originally by: Troy Knight [After training Warp Drive Ops I] Still time I could have used training something else.
JoCool Caldari kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.19 08:47:00 - [29] Edited by: JoCool on 19/05/2007 08:45:57 Originally by: CCP kieron To do so would require a major re-write of the base character code and have an impact on the baseline item of EVE, the character. The trickle down impact would be huge, changing the character stat line would impact skill bonuses, training times, and foster more powergaming as some players would simply change race based on the popular 'template of the week'. It would also be difficult to explain from a RP viewpoint. As with our stance against offering a name change service, I doubt a service of this nature would be offered. Make it a bil. Great isk sink to possibly keep the top of wealthy players down. Fight inflation. A big No to character name changes though. _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.19 23:27:00 - [30] Originally by: JoCool Edited by: JoCool on 19/05/2007 08:45:57 Originally by: CCP kieron To do so would require a major re-write of the base character code and have an impact on the baseline item of EVE, the character. The trickle down impact would be huge, changing the character stat line would impact skill bonuses, training times, and foster more powergaming as some players would simply change race based on the popular 'template of the week'. It would also be difficult to explain from a RP viewpoint. As with our stance against offering a name change service, I doubt a service of this nature would be offered. Make it a bil. Great isk sink to possibly keep the top of wealthy players down. Fight inflation. A big No to character name changes though. Why not, I'd pay to have your name changed. Also Known As

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