When you could afk carriers and people were afking ishtars all over the place the money supply was fine.

It's actually because the plex market is driven (& has been for years now) by investors & speculators. Not by consumers. Which means that most of the people involved in the plex market want the price to keep going up in order to get a reward on their investment.
It's basically a share market in that regards, growing like a bubble, and if it ever bursts a lot of peoples investments crash hard. And some of those people are rich enough to influence the markets of EVE and make sure it never does.

That's why it helps to read an entire post and not sperg out before you finish the third sentence. I barely gave the bounties a a passing mention, yet somehow that's what you managed to get hung up on.

Reddit is right. These forums are cancer.

The price of anything is determined by thousands of different decisions likely made by thousands of different people. The price is the summation of all these different decisions. Anybody who says they know exactly why it's this price or that price is a liar. Some factors may contribute more than others, but at the same time, there are likely many factors unknown and can't be known.



Also, price controls are never the answer, they will likely only lead to shortages, surpluses and more black markets. (real-world trading.)

That's why it helps to read an entire post and not sperg out before you finish the third sentence. I barely gave the bounties a a passing mention, yet somehow that's what you managed to get hung up on.

Reddit is right. These forums are cancer.

I was running incursions during this time at 100 mil/hr. I regret not storing my ISK in PLEX every single day.

Emphasis added.

Gee, why oh why could PLEX prices be going up. Add on CCP making more things accessible via PLEX and everyone is surprised by the upward trend?

This is something CCP seems to understand that others don't. the original purpose of plex was to short circuit the isk sellers, and it largely did. But trying to fix the price could inadvertently open up more opportunities for isk sellers, leading to even worse distortions in the overall economy as those isk sellers find sneaky ways to move and launder and bot isk.

I don't have a problem with the plex prices going up. I'm not a rabid anti-multiboxer (I multibox 2 or 3 accounts at a time myself), but i figure it's good for the game overall to see the 'multi-box empires' (like the dude wiith the 50 ice miners that high sec ice miners love to come here and complain about) start to diminish some.

People already know that it's dumb to fly something they can't afford to lose, in the future I hope people learn not to plex more than they can sub.

This is a rule I follow, the max I can justify paying for EVE is 60 bucks a month, so I keep myself to a max of 4 accounts active and thus don't have to have an anxiety attack every time the plex prices change...

That's highly dependent on where on lives.

If you live somewhere where you're not earning enough to afford $10/mo, you should be working to improve your life and not playing video games in the first place.

You really are a one trick pony.

Mr Epeen

If you live somewhere where you're not earning enough to afford $10/mo, you should be working to improve your life and not playing video games in the first place.

CCP should reroll an obviously wrong decision and activate a price cut for 30 days playtime via plex at lets say 750 million.....

EVERYONE has to have to opportunity to buy 30 days via plex in a "normal"(let's say 14 days) period.....

Around 1.5 billion is simply ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous?

Why is it ridiculous? I made enough money to plex my acount for a year after 6 months on an alpha account.

At least with oldPLEX, it was a luxury, at least the ability to purchase them from the market to pay for your game time. It was not needed for any in-game activity. It was purely used to mediate RMT between two players and you could play EVE without even knowing they existed and not have it impact on your game play. ISK is not a luxury as you could not play the game if you didn't know ISK existed.

Also, from the other side, you do not need to engage in RMT to play the game and buy power or resources from other players. That is also a luxury, one CCP added as a best solution to a problem rather than as a true feature to the the game.

Now though that PLEX is used to purchase other goods and services, perhaps you are more right. nuPLEX can be used for many more things than just to mediate the exchange of virtual assets for real-world cash of other players (or vice versa), including the storage of wealth or as a currency used to buy some items from CCP. It's still pretty optional from the core game, but there is much more utility than when GTC trading was sanctioned or when PLEX was first introduced.

You made around 18 billion ISK with an Alpha account in 6 x months? Incredible what were you doing? Ghost Training?

You made around 18 billion ISK with an Alpha account in 6 x months? Incredible what were you doing? Ghost Training?

CCP should reroll an obviously wrong decision and activate a price cut for 30 days playtime via plex at lets say 750 million.....

EVERYONE has to have to opportunity to buy 30 days via plex in a "normal"(let's say 14 days) period.....

Around 1.5 billion is simply ridiculous.

I think one reason is just simply some guy shoving in a bunch of buy orders for small amounts of plex and hoping that they don't get filled before someone else adjusts their buy order to be more than his.

In other words, semi fake buy orders just to raise the minimum price, and with a market as active as plex he can be pretty confident someone else will "overcut" him.

Of course you could just abuse the "margin trading" skill to have no risk of your order actually being completed as well, but with the fracturing of plex into smaller units you can raise the minimum price this way with a much smaller amount of isk on the table than before the change.

I mean look at the existing buy orders its pretty clear a bunch of them are created for that reason, why would a bunch of different people need exactly 112 units of plex.

Suggestion: stop 'overcutting' these buy orders if you are actually setting buy orders yourself and just let them sell out for awhile, unless of course you profit by the higher prices, in which case, keep doing what your doing peeps.

That stopped being true when injectors dropped. If you want to do "serious" farming, guess what you need to get the flavor of the year with a lot of alts before it gets nerfed?

Yep.

Those things enabled the capship proliferation we've seen these past few months. Without them, the Rorqal and carrier spam would have taken a lot longer to materialize.